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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 5, 2024 8:31:36 GMT
I only question why they went with the dagger thing, considering how popular and awesome KE’s blade was… more from a design and aesthetic perspective, actually. Maybe it’s because of the Crows connection, or it fit the animation style better? Possibly they wanted to distinguish between a mage with some rogue skills and a rogue. They have given the duelist a duel wielding technique that uses long sword and rapier like we were able to do in DAO with the rogue build, which I was pleased to see, as I could never understand confining the rogue to daggers in DA2 and DAI. Thus, to distinguish between the two, considering both specialisms are taught by the Crows, they limit the Spellblade to just a dagger used in conjunction with the orb. I agree, though, that it is a pity they couldn't have kept the light sabre of the KE build but it is a different specialism and not really justified if you are learning it from the Crows. Where would they have learned that sort of magic? To be honest, if they had why wouldn't their ranks be full of Knight Enchanters? It made sense that only an elite group of loyalist mages, dedicated to guarding the Divine, would have learned that skill or a Dalish mage (Cillian) who spent years hanging out at an old elven shrine dedicated to the Arcane Warriors.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 5, 2024 8:36:45 GMT
One of the devs said if you want a knight enchanter feel, you should play Reaper. Which surprised me since I assumed it’d be dps focused like Reaver.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 5, 2024 8:59:46 GMT
You guys are right. Not only has time passed, but we're also exploring different areas of Thedas where fighting / magic techniques might differ, from certain practices to style and even philosophies. It's better actually that it's not all the same, makes total sense. Still, I'm hoping for a new (and good!) mage gameplay video to give us a better idea of what to expect, like it was done with warriors and rogues.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 5, 2024 9:34:31 GMT
One of the devs said if you want a knight enchanter feel, you should play Reaper. Which surprised me since I assumed it’d be dps focused like Reaver. It is hard to know without actually seeing it but the descriptor does make it seem as though it could be a warrior/mage hybrid. Reaper: uses night blades to steal health from foes, risking death to gain supernatural abilities. Faction: Mourn Watch. I assume that the supernatural abilities you gain amount to more than just healing and bearing in mind it is associated with the Mourn Watch, this could be a variant on the Spirit Warrior spec that I was hoping for. This is why I wish they would just give a chart showing what each specialism can do so we can make an informed choice. I don't usually play warrior by choice but I would make an exception for something approximating to the Spirit Warrior. Also, I need them to clear up whether the Reaper is a dual wielder or that was a mistake in earlier information and they just use a single weapon, with or without a shield depending on what the player prefers and how they develop their PC.
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 5, 2024 10:29:27 GMT
One of the devs said if you want a knight enchanter feel, you should play Reaper. Which surprised me since I assumed it’d be dps focused like Reaver. It is hard to know without actually seeing it but the descriptor does make it seem as though it could be a warrior/mage hybrid. Reaper: uses night blades to steal health from foes, risking death to gain supernatural abilities. Faction: Mourn Watch. I assume that the supernatural abilities you gain amount to more than just healing and bearing in mind it is associated with the Mourn Watch, this could be a variant on the Spirit Warrior spec that I was hoping for. This is why I wish they would just give a chart showing what each specialism can do so we can make an informed choice. I don't usually play warrior by choice but I would make an exception for something approximating to the Spirit Warrior. Also, I need them to clear up whether the Reaper is a dual wielder or that was a mistake in earlier information and they just use a single weapon, with or without a shield depending on what the player prefers and how they develop their PC. As the 3 video series and the gameplay show is that the reaper will be as all warrior dual wielding two handed weapon and swort/shield. I think you get mage skill to enchant your swort with necrotic health stealing abilities.
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Post by Frost on Sept 5, 2024 10:56:06 GMT
For mages I think there should be at least six specializations, especially if the hybrid rogue class takes one of the mage specializations. That would better cover the different types of mages and give people the option to play what they like. But I think we will, though. Lots of spells from previous games, plus new ones, are going to be in the general mage tree, and tons of passives and stuff that can really affect gameplay. You then just pick the Specialization you think compliments your build and playstyle better, and that’s about the end of it. Nothing was lost. Number of abilities you can bring into combat was lost, but I was talking about specializations not spells generally. I am picking Evoker because I am not interested in the other 2 mage specializations rather than that it fits my play style. If mages had more specializations, I could pick one I liked instead of what is left. I would like a spell-based dps specialization (not hybrid with another class). A nature-based Druid specialization would also be good. There are a lot of cool mage specializations that could be added.
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 5, 2024 11:16:02 GMT
But I think we will, though. Lots of spells from previous games, plus new ones, are going to be in the general mage tree, and tons of passives and stuff that can really affect gameplay. You then just pick the Specialization you think compliments your build and playstyle better, and that’s about the end of it. Nothing was lost. Number of abilities you can bring into combat was lost, but I was talking about specializations not spells generally. I am picking Evoker because I am not interested in the other 2 mage specializations rather than that it fits my play style. If mages had more specializations, I could pick one I liked instead of what is left. I would like a spell-based dps specialization (not hybrid with another class). A nature-based Druid specialization would also be good. There are a lot of cool mage specializations that could be added. As you see in the 3 video series, the specialization only have few skills. The most skills are in the normal tree and can be upgraded. If you don't like any of the specialization you don't need to pick one. You have enough skills in the skill tree before spec.
Edit: Dragon age isn't DnD. what spec. from DAO, DA2 or DAI do you would like?
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Post by azarhal on Sept 5, 2024 11:44:01 GMT
One of the devs said if you want a knight enchanter feel, you should play Reaper. Which surprised me since I assumed it’d be dps focused like Reaver. Knight-Enchanter wasn't DPS focused? Are you telling me I played it wrong! I think, that comment was more about the fact that Reaper is between defense and ability (more spell like stuff) in the Warrior constellation skill tree.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 5, 2024 12:00:21 GMT
One of the devs said if you want a knight enchanter feel, you should play Reaper. Which surprised me since I assumed it’d be dps focused like Reaver. Knight-Enchanter wasn't DPS focused? Are you telling me I played it wrong! I think, that comment was more about the fact that Reaper is between defense and ability (more spell like stuff) in the Warrior constellation skill tree. Ha, guess I was thinking more arcane warrior. Although I usually made my knight enchanter pretty tanky. Meanwhile Sera would be off in the distance going buck wild on enemies, juiced up on tempest abilities. But yeah, I could see that.
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 5, 2024 15:52:20 GMT
But I think we will, though. Lots of spells from previous games, plus new ones, are going to be in the general mage tree, and tons of passives and stuff that can really affect gameplay. You then just pick the Specialization you think compliments your build and playstyle better, and that’s about the end of it. Nothing was lost. Number of abilities you can bring into combat was lost, but I was talking about specializations not spells generally. I am picking Evoker because I am not interested in the other 2 mage specializations rather than that it fits my play style. If mages had more specializations, I could pick one I liked instead of what is left. I would like a spell-based dps specialization (not hybrid with another class). A nature-based Druid specialization would also be good. There are a lot of cool mage specializations that could be added. One thing you and other maybe like you can turn of the dagger and orb. So that you can't see them.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 5, 2024 19:24:28 GMT
Number of abilities you can bring into combat was lost, but I was talking about specializations not spells generally. I am picking Evoker because I am not interested in the other 2 mage specializations rather than that it fits my play style. If mages had more specializations, I could pick one I liked instead of what is left. I would like a spell-based dps specialization (not hybrid with another class). A nature-based Druid specialization would also be good. There are a lot of cool mage specializations that could be added. Well, there you go, Evoker by the looks of it might be right up your alley. I think you’re looking at it the wrong way: the spells on the general tree (have you seen the size of that thing?) are the “cake”, Specializations are the “cherry on top” - something you end up specializing in during your journey, refine your combat style into. They’re not supposed to define or limit your character, conceptually or otherwise. Really worst case scenario, you find that your favorite spells, build, complete with passives and everything- lies in the general tree. You may pick a passive or two or an ultimate from your Specialization tree, or nothing at all. There’s nothing wrong with that. Trust and believe, there *will* be something for you.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 5, 2024 19:29:30 GMT
One of the devs said if you want a knight enchanter feel, you should play Reaper. Which surprised me since I assumed it’d be dps focused like Reaver. Knight-Enchanter wasn't DPS focused? Are you telling me I played it wrong! I think, that comment was more about the fact that Reaper is between defense and ability (more spell like stuff) in the Warrior constellation skill tree. Yeah, I believe that was in reference to the KE’s tankyness, resilience with the Barrier-gen and all. Corinne also mentioned in the last mage video that KE fans might like orb and dagger.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Sept 5, 2024 19:30:28 GMT
Number of abilities you can bring into combat was lost, but I was talking about specializations not spells generally. I am picking Evoker because I am not interested in the other 2 mage specializations rather than that it fits my play style. If mages had more specializations, I could pick one I liked instead of what is left. I would like a spell-based dps specialization (not hybrid with another class). A nature-based Druid specialization would also be good. There are a lot of cool mage specializations that could be added. Well, there you go, Evoker by the looks of it might be right up your alley. I think you’re looking at it the wrong way: the spells on the general tree (have you seen the size of that thing?) are the “cake”, Specializations are the “cherry on top” - something you end up specializing in during your journey, refine your combat style into. They’re not supposed to define or limit your character, conceptually or otherwise. Really worst case scenario, you find that your favorite spells, build, complete with passives and everything- lies in the general tree. You may pick a passive or two or an ultimate from your Specialization tree, or nothing at all. There’s nothing wrong with that. Trust and believe, there *will* be something for you. Yeah Luc yis going t obe a Fire Evoker Grey Warden. She'll burn thos edarkspaewn out if she has to.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 5, 2024 19:37:11 GMT
Yeah Luc yis going t obe a Fire Evoker Grey Warden. She'll burn thos edarkspaewn out if she has to. Yesss! I’ll freeze’em in the their tracks while you burn them to a crisp, those blighted mf’ers won’t stand a chance!
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Post by ewigDunkelheit on Sept 5, 2024 19:59:22 GMT
One thing you and other maybe like you can turn of the dagger and orb. So that you can't see them. I couldn't find the confirmation for this. Was it in one of the videos with an inventory slice? I know we can hide helmets, but we can also hide secondary weapon sets?
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Post by ewigDunkelheit on Sept 5, 2024 20:07:56 GMT
As the 3 video series and the gameplay show is that the reaper will be as all warrior dual wielding and swort/shield. I rewatched the warrior gameplay video, and I didn't see the warrior use her secondary weapon set. In the inventory screen, it looks like she has a two-handed weapon equipped in the other slot. Where did you see confirmation of dual-wielding two weapons (I would very much like to run that style...)?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Sept 5, 2024 20:17:53 GMT
As the 3 video series and the gameplay show is that the reaper will be as all warrior dual wielding and swort/shield. I rewatched the warrior gameplay video, and I didn't see the warrior use her secondary weapon set. In the inventory screen, it looks like she has a two-handed weapon equipped in the other slot. Where did you see confirmation of dual-wielding two weapons (I would very much like to run that style...)? Yea hthe only one that's dual ewildin gewapons reall yis th rogue bu thten yo ucould coun tthe dagger and orb thing but I'm not suer I coun ttha tas dua lwielding as I'm no teven suer myself how much I ewould use it.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 6, 2024 1:08:02 GMT
Spotted Chain Lightning in this last IGN vid: niiice! Also, interesting skill (I'm assuming from a Veil Ranger Rook, possibly an Ultimate) in which Rook goes to town on the enemies with a pair of like green-energy blades and ends with a Veilstrike kinda move - lifting them up in the air, then slamming to the ground. Looks fantastic and really satisfying!
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 8, 2024 7:59:39 GMT
One thing you and other maybe like you can turn of the dagger and orb. So that you can't see them. I couldn't find the confirmation for this. Was it in one of the videos with an inventory slice? I know we can hide helmets, but we can also hide secondary weapon sets? This wasn't really official confirmed. It was in a video of a youtuber. This one:
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 8, 2024 8:01:44 GMT
As the 3 video series and the gameplay show is that the reaper will be as all warrior dual wielding and swort/shield. I rewatched the warrior gameplay video, and I didn't see the warrior use her secondary weapon set. In the inventory screen, it looks like she has a two-handed weapon equipped in the other slot. Where did you see confirmation of dual-wielding two weapons (I would very much like to run that style...)? Sorry, that is my bad english i mean two handed weapon. I will correct my post. Thank you.
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Post by theascendent on Sept 8, 2024 9:07:17 GMT
Do you think people will try to pair up their specializations to match their origin faction or will they pick a class to match their faction choice? I wonder if there is some reactivity or benefits for doing so. For instance if I was a Mourn Watch Rook who was a Mage and then picked the Death Caller would this be acknowledged by the game or the other characters?
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 8, 2024 13:36:39 GMT
While I'm pretty sure I'm going with Spellblade, I really want to know what's up with Veil Ranger before deciding. If Veil Ranger is kind of mage-y and I get to summon a nature spirit familiar thing or something, I would be tempted.
My only concern is feeling kind of like a fifth wheel when it comes to companions, as we already have archer-y mage Bellara and mage-y archer Harding (who I absolutely intend on bringing EVERYWHER), so that brings down my enthusiasm if Veil Ranger is too similar.
For added context, I intend on going with the Veil Jumpers faction.
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Post by ewigDunkelheit on Sept 8, 2024 16:46:27 GMT
This wasn't really official confirmed. It was in a video of a youtuber. I double-checked this video (thanks for the link), but it seems the creator was mistaken on this point, unfortunately. The eye icon seems to be related to the transmog system, because the bow still shows up in combat, and a separate icon can be seen to denote the hide helmet option in the inventory screen. So, a pure melee or ranged is technically not a thing, so much as a play-against-the-system choice. It was mostly a visual immersion issue for me, having a pure melee build lugging around an unused bow and quiver on the back. I didn't want another ranged female character, but I'll get around the issue with a gender swap that will use both weapon sets. I just feel sorry for the people who want a pure bow rogue. They have to lug around two swords as decorations.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 8, 2024 18:12:45 GMT
Do you think people will try to pair up their specializations to match their origin faction or will they pick a class to match their faction choice? I wonder if there is some reactivity or benefits for doing so. For instance if I was a Mourn Watch Rook who was a Mage and then picked the Death Caller would this be acknowledged by the game or the other characters? I'd appreciate an explanation of how this works. It seemed strange enough having to choose a faction at the outset but I suppose it is preferable to them forcing one on you, and I assume that will have some bearing on the content you get going forward and how people react to you (there was an example of this in the first game play trailer). It is a bit like Origins without the actual origin stories to introduce you to them. However, I'm really puzzled why they had to link the specialisms to a particular faction apart from the description of the abilities being labelled accordingly. The progression grid does have a lot of nodes though, some of which were marked with a red X on Lucanis' character screen, suggesting they were now off limits because of choices made, so presumably something similar will apply to Rook. I noticed that a node labelled Antivan Crow could be found in the general progression grid, not simply on the specialism for the rogue class, so may be you get specific abilities you can only select if you are a Crow as well as the specialism that you can take even if you are not a Crow. As I say, further explanation by Bioware would be helpful.
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
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Post by jennica on Sept 8, 2024 18:16:31 GMT
Do you think people will try to pair up their specializations to match their origin faction or will they pick a class to match their faction choice? I wonder if there is some reactivity or benefits for doing so. For instance if I was a Mourn Watch Rook who was a Mage and then picked the Death Caller would this be acknowledged by the game or the other characters? Bioware said this in Discord Q&A
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