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Post by Fate on Sept 21, 2017 2:02:12 GMT
Hi! Fate here. I'd like to start off this topic by asking that if someone happens to know the real story, to not spoil it as it may be upsetting to me and potentially other Mass Effect players.
So we saw on many of the Mass effect 3 endings that shepard dies. The one where he/she lives i assume is meant to be the "real" ending, since you have to work your butt off to get it to that point. Though I expect BioWare to have something dramatic happen to excuse his/her idleness, like amnesia or loss of contact. I mean he/she is back home after all this trouble; I'd shut up too! Maybe Andromeda was just a way to make us think Shepard was really gone? I mean look, I don't know if BioWare could afford the loss of players since the ending of ME3, so I'd expect them to make some epic comeback, otherwise the mass effect series won't ever be the same series I grew up loving.
Not to mention the post-ending cutscene aswell. We hear a man and a child communicating over stories of Shepard. The child asks the man for more stories of Shepard and the man offers one more story. This means a lot. This is telling us that there is information of Shepard that we either don't know or are bound to find out anyway. This is a key reference that we might actually see Shepard again, unless of course this man is a hell of a bad story teller. If I'd have told a story, i would have explained what i knew at the time, not save the information for later. I hope this man didn't intend on doing that. But yeah, let's hope we don't need an energency induction port to figure this out lol. Please let me know what you think, though I'm sure you had some idea of this as well. Thanks for reading!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 2:27:20 GMT
My Shepard's story is finished... and I'm happy with it that way.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 21, 2017 4:08:47 GMT
I know MY Shepard's story isn't finished. He picks Destroy, survives, marries his LI and lives happily ever after. Or something like that. However, ME3 seems to be leading us in the direction of Shepard not surviving and almost certainly saw Synthesis as the ideal ending. (Which would suggest Shepard dies.) If we could have Synthesis + Living Shepard, I could potentially be okay with it but that's not the case. And inflicting the horror of being a Reaper for eternity is something I just can't do. Maybe if I were full-on, asshole, stab-my-allies-in-the-back Shepard, I could do it, but otherwise no.
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Post by kalasaurus on Sept 21, 2017 5:14:04 GMT
Maybe I'm being cynical here, but I assumed the old man was breaking the 4th wall and telling you to buy DLC when he said "one more story" (with the pre-Extended Cut ending).
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Post by themikefest on Sept 21, 2017 11:12:41 GMT
Maybe I'm being cynical here, but I assumed the old man was breaking the 4th wall and telling you to buy DLC when he said "one more story" (with the pre-Extended Cut ending). They didn't need him to say anything since Bioware had this after the game ended
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Post by kalasaurus on Sept 21, 2017 15:20:56 GMT
Maybe I'm being cynical here, but I assumed the old man was breaking the 4th wall and telling you to buy DLC when he said "one more story" (with the pre-Extended Cut ending). They didn't need him to say anything since Bioware had this after the game ended I remember that. It reinforced why I thought it.
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Post by AnDromedary on Sept 21, 2017 17:30:39 GMT
I think, no matter if you think Shepard died or not, his/her story is pretty much finished either way. What other story would you want to tell about Shepard after this one? What could he/she possibly do after this that would bring the character forward in a meaningful way?
No, one way or another, Shepard ended the billion year old reaper threat and saved the galaxy. Whether you like to believe that s/he died or that s/he lived happily ever after, I don't think there is much potential for future stories that center on Shepard anymore.
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Post by jukaga on Sept 21, 2017 19:23:08 GMT
Maybe I'm being cynical here, but I assumed the old man was breaking the 4th wall and telling you to buy DLC when he said "one more story" (with the pre-Extended Cut ending). They didn't need him to say anything since Bioware had this after the game ended Heh, years later and I'm still not completely over that 3am kick in the teeth.
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Post by thelonelypoet on Sept 21, 2017 19:23:09 GMT
My Shepard's story continued in a way many might dislike; with an asari daughter. Since I do writing for living I sometimes add up imaginative stories from Mass Effect and add parts of the fantasies to my own novels. It is not fanfic; I use ME as an inspiration and won't directly steal anything. And the life after the end intrigues me still, after all these years.
My Shepard also ended, after destroying the Reapers, in the hands of the geth ( only the ones with the reaper upgrade were destroyed - not every geth in the universe had the tech. Also, EDI is easily backupped and will be fixed [she lives in one of my destroy playtroughs after my end decision so I don't believe anything what the starkid told me]).
The geth saved Shepard by making her more kyborg, almost like a robot. She wouldn't have survived any other way. She dislikes it, was secretly hoping for the mercy of death, but after a while, gets used to it. She spend the rest of her life of touring with the old Normandy, observing the new galaxy and maintaining the peace with the krogans and especially with the batarians, who have lost the most. After the Reaper war things are still very dicey.
Now this starts to sound like a fanfic, sorry.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 22, 2017 4:15:02 GMT
thelonelypoet: There's a thread devoted to "What happens after ME3?" somewhere around here. Obviously, lots of people have given some thought to post-Reaper War.
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Post by dragontartare on Sept 22, 2017 4:56:27 GMT
I think, no matter if you think Shepard died or not, his/her story is pretty much finished either way. What other story would you want to tell about Shepard after this one? What could he/she possibly do after this that would bring the character forward in a meaningful way? No, one way or another, Shepard ended the billion year old reaper threat and saved the galaxy. Whether you like to believe that s/he died or that s/he lived happily ever after, I don't think there is much potential for future stories that center on Shepard anymore. Agreed. Even if your Shepard goes on to marry their LI, or have half a dozen kids, or becomes a pirate with Jack, or whatever...none of that is video game material compared to stopping the annihilation of all advanced life in the galaxy. I think anything after that would either be completely anticlimactic, or -- if someone managed to come up with a bigger threat than the reapers -- would trivialize the story of the trilogy and of ME3 especially, and therefore make a lot of people angry. Shepard's future after the reapers is best left to the imagination, I think.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Sept 24, 2017 3:18:20 GMT
I'd say Shepard's story is finished though it would be nice to know what comes of high ems destroy Shepard. I think there are more stories that can be told in the Milky Way post reaper war.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 24, 2017 11:19:15 GMT
My Shepard's story isn't over.
A sequel can have Shepard already planning to retire when Hackett asks him/her for one last mission.
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Post by abedsbrother on Oct 8, 2017 21:23:36 GMT
I think, no matter if you think Shepard died or not, his/her story is pretty much finished either way. What other story would you want to tell about Shepard after this one? What could he/she possibly do after this that would bring the character forward in a meaningful way? Set 30 years after the (red) ending of ME3: Rebuilding the relays has brought a new understanding of dark energy; but as Haestrom's sun begins its collapse, some wonder if there is knowledge that they're missing. A bad-guy (who maybe isn't TRULY bad at the beginning) comes across some old records from Project Lazarus that might provide an answer. Upon hearing of this, higher-ups are worried the baddie might be trying to resuscitate something worse than a human being. Because of his past experiences, Shepard is asked to assist the Virmire survivor-now-spectre with the investigation. Most of the surviving old crew is reassembled for "one last ride" aboard the Normandy. The investigation takes the team into the far corners of a rebuilding galaxy, searching for an artifact from the Battle of the Citadel that promises to reveal all. Unbeknownst to anyone, the answer to the mystery is in their midst the entire time; thanks to something that occurred when (s)he was being rebuilt in ME2, Shepard is the trojan horse, simultaneously the answer and the problem. Some great opportunities to observe galactic rebuilding & repopulating, politics (rapid krogan expansion), backroom drama (Alliance staff is showing a resurgence of "humans first" military leadership). We get to learn how Shepard was brought back to life in ME2, the true explanation for his dreams in ME3, a conclusion of the "dark energy" plotline, everyone gets a serious send-off, and Shepard can choose to sacrifice himself / herself or fake their own death then go live in seclusion with the LI. For the Green ending of ME3, play as the Virmire survivor. If neither survived ME3, play as Liara. Plot is similar; Shepard still holds the key to the mystery, but, since (s)he no longer exists, the baddie tries to find the answer by re-tracing Project Lazarus’ footsteps (with horrific results). For the Blue ending of ME3, play as the Virmire survivor. If neither survived ME3, play as Liara. Story-wise, god-Shepard, instead of being the hero, is the villain, distraught by the re-emergence of old synthetic-organic conflicts and the abuses of dark energy (during the reconstruction) that are destroying the galaxy. Begins abusing his / her powers to conserve the galaxy, resulting in new levels of horror and destruction. Only his / her old crew-mates can reason with him / her.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Oct 10, 2017 13:10:25 GMT
Well, as long as Red Ending Shepard remains a Spectre, they will no doubt have more adventures, but the singular event that made them the hero (interacting with the beacon on Eden Prime) is unlikely to be repeated and I doubt anything could happen to match the scale of the original trilogy.
I'd personally love to see more of Shepard and their friends, but realistically, for that to happen they'd have to make Destroy canon, which surely wouldn't go down that well with the Control and Synthesis people.
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Post by chronoid on Oct 16, 2017 20:44:33 GMT
My Shepard's story isn't over. A sequel can have Shepard already planning to retire when Hackett asks him/her for one last mission. Finally, someone with a modicum of taste. Do people realize the potential there is with one more story involving Shepard? Especially considering the ending to ME 3 was like a wet fart in terms of resolution? And definitely because no one with half a brain cell probably gives a flying fuck about Andromeda? I keep envisioning the game, and it makes perfect sense. I believe that if Bioware stands any chance of resurrecting Mass Effect at this point, they have no choice but to canonize Destroy and bring Shepard back. Hell, I'll start with the premise and make their job 100x easier. Here's how it goes: Shepard is now older and more gruff if Shepard's a male, or older and more reserved if Shepard's a female. They've settled down with their LI after the destruction of the Reapers and have been living happily ever since. But wait, another conflict arises! This conflict isn't galaxy-wide and doesn't threaten their entire existence but it is a threat nonetheless. The Alliance (or the Council, take your pick) begs for Shepard to finish one last mission. Reluctantly, Shepard takes up the mantle once again and enters the fray with his/her LI at his/her side. Bam, the setup is there and now Bioware just needs to fill in the blanks. Knowing them and how stubborn they are though, I know this will never happen and is basically a pipe dream. And look, I already have concept art for what Sheploo looks like now. www.thefashionisto.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Mark-Vanderloo-GQ-China-August-2014-Editorial-003.jpg
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 18:10:10 GMT
My Shepard's story isn't over. A sequel can have Shepard already planning to retire when Hackett asks him/her for one last mission. Finally, someone with a modicum of taste. Do people realize the potential there is with one more story involving Shepard? Especially considering the ending to ME 3 was like a wet fart in terms of resolution? And definitely because no one with half a brain cell probably gives a flying fuck about Andromeda? I keep envisioning the game, and it makes perfect sense. I believe that if Bioware stands any chance of resurrecting Mass Effect at this point, they have no choice but to canonize Destroy and bring Shepard back. Hell, I'll start with the premise and make their job 100x easier. Here's how it goes: Shepard is now older and more gruff if Shepard's a male, or older and more reserved if Shepard's a female. They've settled down with their LI after the destruction of the Reapers and have been living happily ever since. But wait, another conflict arises! This conflict isn't galaxy-wide and doesn't threaten their entire existence but it is a threat nonetheless. The Alliance (or the Council, take your pick) begs for Shepard to finish one last mission. Reluctantly, Shepard takes up the mantle once again and enters the fray with his/her LI at his/her side. Bam, the setup is there and now Bioware just needs to fill in the blanks. Knowing them and how stubborn they are though, I know this will never happen and is basically a pipe dream. And look, I already have concept art for what Sheploo looks like now. www.thefashionisto.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Mark-Vanderloo-GQ-China-August-2014-Editorial-003.jpg... and for a such a mundane mission, Anderson Hackett just has to pull Shepard out of retirement... BS... Shepard is not the only capable marine in the Alliance. Shepard's only specialized skills involve killing Reapers. For any lesser threat, Anderson would logically use a younger guy and let Shepard have his well earned retirement. Please don't try to turn ME into a space remake of The Expendables.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 17, 2017 18:43:19 GMT
Anderson? He's dead. He wouldn't be in a sequel to ME3 unless that is one of the details that have changed over time according to the guy talking to the kid at the end
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 20:04:03 GMT
Anderson? He's dead. He wouldn't be in a sequel to ME3 unless that is one of the details that have changed over time according to the guy talking to the kid at the end Corrected... meant to type Hackett (senior moment).
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Post by chronoid on Oct 17, 2017 21:36:43 GMT
... and for a such a mundane mission, Anderson Hackett just has to pull Shepard out of retirement... BS... Shepard is not the only capable marine in the Alliance. Shepard's only specialized skills involve killing Reapers. For any lesser threat, Anderson would logically use a younger guy and let Shepard have his well earned retirement. Please don't try to turn ME into a space remake of The Expendables. You're treading on my dreams. Stop it.
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Post by larsdt on Nov 4, 2017 0:27:43 GMT
I think the Leviathan DLC had the potential for a ME4 game. One of the most annoying things in ME3 imho is the motives of Cerberus; I get that Bioware needed some goon squad to introduce the MP maps and those missions are not critical to the story line. But the reasons for attacking Sur Kesh and the Citadel Coup always hang in the air.
ME3 could have been about TIM not been indoctrinated but still have found the way to control the Reapers. The story could have unfolded with missions like the one on Horizon, gradually revealing his true intentions. The main ME3 quest would have been a race to prevent Cerberus in succeeding. The Reapers could still have been a part of this story with some interesting dynamics: Cerberus, the Alliance and the Reapers each trying to weaken each other while at the same time having to cover their rear.
TIM might even have succeeded in the ME3 ending and Shepard would have had to discover the true origin of the Reapers to save the galaxy.
Anyway, just something off the top of the hat. Still, I think a rewrite of the story along these lines would have prevented all those inconsistencies regarding Cerberus and that ridiculous ME3 ending.
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Post by kalreegar on Nov 6, 2017 10:44:17 GMT
If they want to revive the ME saga, the best way is bringing back commander shepard and the old crew. No doubt.
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Post by Obadiah on Jul 13, 2018 17:43:13 GMT
Was just watching 2010, and this scene came up. I bet this was the sort of ending Control Shepard experienced... "I remember Shepard, and everything about him."
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Post by themikefest on Jul 13, 2018 18:33:32 GMT
How do they know the threat of the reapers is gone after they have been destroyed? To find out, Shepard will travel to darkspace for the answer. bsn.boards.net/post/1007439/thread
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 14, 2018 4:11:12 GMT
Was just watching 2010, and this scene came up. I bet this was the sort of ending Control Shepard experienced... "I remember Shepard, and everything about him." I'm not sure I'd equate the creepiness of the Control ending of what's coming after 2001. <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.960000000000036px; height: 3.1599999999999966px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT3_89968498" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.1599999999999966"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 3.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT3_11877039" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.1599999999999966"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 3.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 98px;" id="MoatPxIOPT3_27421716" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.1599999999999966"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 3.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: 98px;" id="MoatPxIOPT3_29942105" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.1599999999999966"></iframe>
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