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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 16:27:26 GMT
I think the whole Stargazer (Buzz Aldrin) talking to the kid about "another story" of Shepard is more to do with the things he had done in the past. For example, curing the genophage or bringing peace between the Geth/Quarians, or however that played out based on what you did.
It's not trying to set up a sequel or to milk the Shepard story for another game.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 14, 2018 16:35:52 GMT
Though I think Shepard might have more in store for himself, his story as a protagonist is over. BioWare set out to make a trilogy with a very specific storyline. That's been done. My experience says that creating prequels and sequels doesn't go well.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 14, 2018 17:19:46 GMT
For the guy to tell the story, and know the details about what happened on the Citadel, someone had to have been there, and survive, to tell the first story.
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Post by lavigne on Jul 16, 2018 11:29:22 GMT
If they want to revive the ME saga, the best way is bringing back commander shepard and the old crew. No doubt. /thread There really is no getting away from this. In many ways, and to many folks, Shepard = Mass Effect. It's like taking the Enterprise out of Star Trek - yes, they did that, and those shows were never as popular as the original, or TNG. Whatever they do for the next ME, as long as it's broadly in line with what I'd expect a ME game to be, ie not just a FPS, then I'll be there, out of curiosity if nothing else. Tell me its a Shepard game, and I'm all over it with no questions asked.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jul 17, 2018 21:40:12 GMT
I think the whole Stargazer (Buzz Aldrin) talking to the kid about "another story" of Shepard is more to do with the things he had done in the past. For example, curing the genophage or bringing peace between the Geth/Quarians, or however that played out based on what you did. It's not trying to set up a sequel or to milk the Shepard story for another game. The old man and the boy scene was referring to stories the child hadn't heard yet. Not the player. Imo. I don't believe it means Shepard story is not over for us.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 0:53:04 GMT
I do recall Shepard stating once the Reapers are dealt with, it's over. Garrus points out, it's been a hell of a ride. Oh, and there's that little message that pops up at the end of the Extended Cut stating Shepard has become a legend for ending the Reaper threat, thus concluding the story of the trilogy.
Even at the end of the first game Shepard states the Reaper fleet is still coming and he's going to find a way to stop them. Well, at the end of the third game, the threat is comes to a conclusion, so that pretty much wraps up the story on Shepard's end. Pretty much what was said at the end of the first game came to fruition at the end of the third game. Shepard completed the quest of finding a way to deal with the Reapers.
What else is there to do?
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Post by themikefest on Jul 18, 2018 2:39:29 GMT
Even though the reapers are destroyed, how to they know the threat has been eliminated?
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 18, 2018 7:08:29 GMT
Even though the reapers are destroyed, how to they know the threat has been eliminated? Ultimately, they don't. Some could have remained in dark space and not been affected by the beams (unless a relay is used to get there). Similarly, the Leviathan are also out there and likely to be a threat. Still, I think Shepard deserves a break after saving the galaxy from the biggest threat the galaxy has ever seen. Shepard should settle down with his or her LI, maybe moving up the ranks to a non-soldier position. That's not even unlikely since the higher ranks were decimated. Hackett would likely be the senior most officer in the Alliance. No way he'd miss the chance to advance Shepard's career.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 18, 2018 10:50:59 GMT
I think if you choose destroy then a somewhat beat up Shepard goes into retirement, sitting on a beach somewhere sipping cocktails and reminiscing on old times with Garrus (also retired) and whoever else wants to join them. After all I think they earned it. However, if the Council chose to involve them again it would likely be in some political capacity on a diplomatic mission to sort out problems that arise in the new galactic order. Having proved themselves adept at uniting disparate groups and overcoming age old animosities, naturally Shepard seems the ideal fit for the task. Then what seemed a simple mission turns out to be something more. From my personal perspective I just assumed that the Citadel DLC actually took place post-destroy instead of in the middle of the war. It made sense that the surviving Cerberus people would want to replace Shepard with a clone so they could capitalise on their reputation and it seemed far more appropriate to have a big party to celebrate removing the ancient threat to the galaxy rather than whilst we were still fighting for our lives. So everyone was invited round, it was clear that EDI hadn't died as a result of my actions, we had a good time, the end.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 18, 2018 11:50:47 GMT
Even though the reapers are destroyed, how to they know the threat has been eliminated? Ultimately, they don't. Some could have remained in dark space and not been affected by the beams (unless a relay is used to get there). Similarly, the Leviathan are also out there and likely to be a threat. Still, I think Shepard deserves a break after saving the galaxy from the biggest threat the galaxy has ever seen. Shepard should settle down with his or her LI, maybe moving up the ranks to a non-soldier position. That's not even unlikely since the higher ranks were decimated. Hackett would likely be the senior most officer in the Alliance. No way he'd miss the chance to advance Shepard's career. I'm not sure if I want any reaper to return, as much I like for one of them to be Harbinger, ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL. I also believe that a lot of the fans may not want them to return either. I wouldn't have a problem with them returning through dialogue. Anyways. Here's why I posted what I did. bsn.boards.net/post/1007439/thread
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 2:29:54 GMT
I know MY Shepard's story isn't finished. He picks Destroy, survives, marries his LI and lives happily ever after. Or something like that. However, ME3 seems to be leading us in the direction of Shepard not surviving and almost certainly saw Synthesis as the ideal ending. I have played through full ME series once and chose the Destroy ending. First there was a scene where they put Shepard's name on the plaque, so, the game characters presume she's dead. HOWEVER, there was a scene following that one. It depicted a giant pile or rubble on some planet and in that pile of rubble I saw that rectangular locket thingy that belonged to Shepard. Then the last shot of the game was how the pile suddenly shifted. I had a feeling that Shepard was going to push the blocks aside and crawl out, but of course then the screen went dark. So, I think they are giving you a chance to imagine she survives. Personally, that final shot made it ambiguous for me whether she's truly dead or the others just don't know about her survival.
However, overall, I did get a sense of completion from the game. I didn't get the feeling that there should be a sequel.
To be honest though, I found all end game choices lame - from which might stir the feeling of the lack of game completion because you I wanted something better/more satisfying and then you may think that a following game might offer a better solution. Becoming a Broodmother and babysitting galaxy killers forever (until someone may steal your throne and make them wipe the galaxy again), destroy not just the reapers but wipe out another race of geth as well as someone like EDI, and become some kind of Borg hybrid mutant, oh yea and force the entire galaxy to be like that. Then you can also implode yourself (which might actually be a good thing, providing Liara offers the blueprints to the next 'generation' it's possible they will perfect the weapon more and for example make it more selective like blow up reapers without blowing others up, or changing reaper programming safely).
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 19, 2018 4:40:44 GMT
Personally, that final shot made it ambiguous for me whether she's truly dead or the others just don't know about her survival.
However, overall, I did get a sense of completion from the game. I didn't get the feeling that there should be a sequel. I've played the trilogy numerous times. The number of hours I've clocked between each of the individual games is more than I put into the entire DA series (I say that because I know you from there). If the plaque goes up, Shepard is dead and there's no breath scene. If the LI (or someone, I don't who because I always romance Kaidan) doesn't put the plaque up then you get the breath scene. There are factors that decide what will lead to this. It's also only possible with Destroy. Shepard is definitely dead in Synthesis and in Control Shepard is a Reaper. [That locket thingy is Shepard's dog tags, standard for people in the military.] I also feel that the game is completed. Why do I feel like the devs were leading us toward Synthesis as ideal? There are the least casualties. Sure, Shepard dies, but everyone else lives (assuming you made the most Paragon choices possible in the game) and there is peace for ever and ever between organics and synthetics because...somehow robots are now partly organic. Control is just creepy and who the hell wants the Reapers around after they've just decimated the entire galaxy? Personally, I'd have major trust issues unless they retreated to dark space, changed their appearance into something that doesn't seem to have just killed everyone that everyone knew and then went through the process of helping the galaxy rebuild. Ideal or not, I want my mShep to live happily ever after with Kaidan, where they get married, have kids and generally get the happy ending. (Which reminds me that there's a happy ending mod - MEHEM - that gives Shepard a more clear-cut fate.) The best ending is MEHEM. It kills the Reapers and Shepard + LI are both alive and well. Can't remember, but I think it entirely avoids the fate of the geth and EDI.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 19, 2018 9:30:32 GMT
destroy not just the reapers but wipe out another race of geth as well as someone like EDI The most annoying part of the plotlines for me was that I found the array that allowed us to build in a specific Reaper only targeting ability into the weapon (I think this may have only been once I had the Leviathan DLC) and then I was forced into either allowing the Geth to have uploaded Reaper tech from Legion OR destroy them. Allowing the upload really made no sense at all, particularly if you had just done the side-quest where you are specifically removing a Reaper virus from the Geth. So naturally if allowed my true choice, it would have been to deny Legion the upload but still broker the peace between the Geth and the Qarians. Of course that would have made them proof against any Reaper only targeted gun. Sadly that was not an option, so first run I went with the upload against my better judgement, half expecting the Geth to turn on me at a later stage. When this didn't happen I felt elated. I had actually pulled off uniting ALL the galaxy, AIs as well as Organics, into a collective fighting force against the Reapers. Then I got to the end and I am told that using my weapon against the Reapers will destroy all AIs, which I felt was a pretty cheap trick for the writers to play. I also hated that they made destroy the red option, implying that only a totally ruthless Shepard would take it. However, having seen the result of taking the "preferred" (by the writers) green option as a "reward" for my efforts, where essentially everyone is turned into pseudo Reapers, I find destroy is the only ending that leaves me with any sense of accomplishment, regardless of whether Shepard survives or not. EDI told me she would be happy to die to end the Reaper threat and I felt the same way. Before the Extended Cut it seemed likely that taking Destroy would also result in the end of Shepard so I really wasn't expecting their story to continue.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 19, 2018 15:30:50 GMT
3/4 of the endings (or all, depending on EMS) have Shepard dead. (Control just has a copy of his mind stuck in a Reaper. It's almost like saying the clone is Shepard. It's not.) Pre-EC, Shepard died under any circumstances (or so I've heard). Seems pretty clear that Shepard's story was intended to be over. Even if Shepard did survive the Destroy ending, the breath scene puts him or her in rough shape - too rough to continue fighting. I say let Shepard rest. It's been a difficult life since Elysium/Torfan/Akuze. It just got worse when Shepard got on the trail of the Reapers, including two years time where s/he is dead. Then the incredible stress Shepard underwent in ME3 only to have, at best, been near-fatally wounded ending their threat. Let Shepard rest.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 19, 2018 18:12:30 GMT
From the beginning of ME1 up to before Shepard goes up the beam in London, there have been eyewitnesses and even Shepard, saying what happened. But who is the one to witness what happened on the Citadel, if Shepard is dead? Shepard survives, if destroy is chosen and ems is high enough. So, it's obvious he/she would tell the first story.
Another thing is the guy says the details have changed over time. Those details could be anything. It could be that Shepard did survive, but people got tired of hearing that story, so they added some spice to it by including green and blue. I'm sure the story told to the guy is a lot different from the story he told the kid. Another thing is, was there another person with the guy when the story was told? How different would that person's story be from what the guy told the kid?
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jul 20, 2018 0:33:02 GMT
Shepard's story is done, finished, finito. There's no point of going back to his/her story.
Let the fella rest will ya!
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Post by Obadiah on Jul 20, 2018 3:38:11 GMT
I had a weird idea that because Shepard's "essence" was dispersed in the Synthesis explosion/reaction, some portion of his consciousness was sort of running life in the galaxy. As such he could sort of appear to people in times of crisis and act as a kind of spirt guide - like the Jedi spirits almost.
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Post by lavigne on Jul 20, 2018 8:30:56 GMT
Plenty of ways to have Shepard in a post-DESTROY ending narrative.
Introduce a new character, and then have Shepard take over the Anderson role. Or have them take over the Human ambassadorial role once the Council is set back up.
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Post by Obadiah on Jul 20, 2018 12:13:12 GMT
I always liked the Man of Steel depiction of an uploaded consciousness to an AI as well for a Control ending...
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Post by x19dude95 on Jul 21, 2018 13:27:29 GMT
👍 this is great now go into detail of the story. Last mission sorry We get a forth game with Shepherd Then it’s a Fifth one then a sixth Shepherd game. The game requests won’t stop after a forth Shepard game, it will probably hurt the series more
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 21, 2018 15:55:27 GMT
👍 this is great now go into detail of the story. Last mission sorry We get a forth game with Shepherd Then it’s a Fifth one then a sixth Shepherd game. The game requests won’t stop after a forth Shepard game, it will probably hurt the series more This is my general belief as well. Shepard's story was told. It starts: Earthborn/Spacer/Colonist. Next: War Hero/Sole Survivor/Butcher of Torfan. First human Spectre. Takes down Saren. Allies with the enemy to stop the Collectors. Returns to the Alliance to face the Reapers and wins (or not, if you choose Refusal). Shepard got a hero's story. Anything more would just muck it up, diluting Shepard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2018 16:18:10 GMT
There are some people out there who believe that without Shepard in the game, it simply isn't a Mass Effect game.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 21, 2018 16:35:46 GMT
I like to see Shepard return. It doesn't mean that I agree that without him/her it wouldn't be an ME game.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2018 16:58:15 GMT
I like to see Shepard return. It doesn't mean that I agree that without him/her it wouldn't be an ME game. Which is why I said some people, not you specifically.
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Post by x19dude95 on Jul 22, 2018 16:28:37 GMT
👍 this is great now go into detail of the story. Last mission sorry We get a forth game with Shepherd Then it’s a Fifth one then a sixth Shepherd game. The game requests won’t stop after a forth Shepard game, it will probably hurt the series more This is my general belief as well. Shepard's story was told. It starts: Earthborn/Spacer/Colonist. Next: War Hero/Sole Survivor/Butcher of Torfan. First human Spectre. Takes down Saren. Allies with the enemy to stop the Collectors. Returns to the Alliance to face the Reapers and wins (or not, if you choose Refusal). Shepard got a hero's story. Anything more would just muck it up, diluting Shepard. From the looks of it people want a life simulator where we play As a retired Shepard. That would not bold well with the mass media If mass effect needs to relieve on one character you might as well change the games names mass effect Should just as well be called Shepard mass effect one becomes Shepard and the betraying Spectre mass effect 2 becomes Shepard and the attack on the colonies mass effect 3 Shepard and the invasion i feel a series looses it’s identity when it relies on one character
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