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Post by Sondergaard on Sept 25, 2017 12:41:55 GMT
Wait a second. Wasn't making that scene cringe-worthy Wolff's job? Kallo's line doesn't work otherwise. People tend to blame VAs for the failings of the director and/or writers, unfortunately. I have many problems with ME:A but I thought the VAs were good, even Liam's. The lines they were told to deliver and the manner they delivered them is something else. In this case I thought it was fine. You can question whether a self-confident pathfinder who has faced death on many occasions and made decisions that affect the entirety of humanity in the Heleus Cluster would get so tongue-tied, but that's not Wolff's fault. Anyway, just because you're good at shooting stuff doesn't make you automatically confident with a potential love interest.
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Post by Inosha T'Rynn on Sept 25, 2017 14:22:10 GMT
I think she's coasting on the goodwill Hale got for FemShep What do you mean? That people who liked FemShep will give any female VA a pass? I do love Jen Hale, but wasn't crazy about Jo Wyatt's or Alix Wilton Reagan's performances in the DA franchise (nothing against them or their talent, their performances just didn't resonate with me). If you listen to Fryda's interviews she certainly seems like a hard working VA. Whether or not you liked her performance, I don't think laziness was involved. Alihou, as was already pointed out, being cringeworthy was the intent of that Suvi scene, so mission accomplished! Element Zero, I think Sara is supposed to be kind of a dork. Her awkward flirting with Gil was also cringeworthy. I liked it a lot, but YMMV. Having followed Fryda on Social Media and had frequent interaction with her, I can tell you that she isn't lazy. She's been doing full time VA work for the past five years, which is not a lot of time for most professional VAs. Personally, I like her as an actress, and I've liked her other performances I have heard from her. I think the nomination, her performance in ME:A, and her killer performance as Lylla in Guardians of the Galaxy speaks highly of how talented she really is. However, it's more than just raw talent. She has done all the hard work herself, including going out and seeking education from the industry's best. She's also spent a lot of money to be a successful VA. As a person, she is the nicest freaking person ever. She is very personable with her fans. She's not egotistical at all. If anything, she is highly critical of herself and very surprised at this and the other attention she has gotten for Mass Effect. She's social media buddies with Jennifer Hale, but doesn't hang out with her. In fact, she has gotten nothing but support from Jennifer since ME:A came out. Her relationship with Jennifer Hale has nothing to do with her abilities as an actor. Y'all know this isn't Taylorson vs Wolff right? The two of them are friends, and go out of their way to support each other. Fryda and Taylorson worked on Octodad together. Fryda has also participated in some of Taylorson's acting lectures. Surprised Taylorson wasn't nominated as well, and I liked his performance but for different reasons. I also really enjoyed Danielle Rayne and Katie Townsend, but neither one were nominated either. Sara is supposed to be a dork and some of the scenes were written to be cringy. Fryda is a bit of a nerdy dork with a streak of serious, so I think a lot of that in Sara is her putting herself into the role, which I appreciated. Like the scene with Suvi, or the overacting scene during Movie Night (which she said she had fun with), and some of the punny jokes. As a VA, myself, I do that too. It makes it more enjoyable for me and the audience if there's a bit of me in it otherwise it's just reading sentences on a page which is the opposite of acting. We are voice "actors" not "line readers."
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Post by simit on Sept 25, 2017 15:24:45 GMT
VA aint a complaint i can have for, i think, any BioWare game an it one thing, no matter my overall thoughts on, ME:A didn't suffer on, the guys/gals did a good job tbh
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 25, 2017 17:24:52 GMT
What do you mean? That people who liked FemShep will give any female VA a pass? I do love Jen Hale, but wasn't crazy about Jo Wyatt's or Alix Wilton Reagan's performances in the DA franchise (nothing against them or their talent, their performances just didn't resonate with me). If you listen to Fryda's interviews she certainly seems like a hard working VA. Whether or not you liked her performance, I don't think laziness was involved. Alihou, as was already pointed out, being cringeworthy was the intent of that Suvi scene, so mission accomplished! Element Zero, I think Sara is supposed to be kind of a dork. Her awkward flirting with Gil was also cringeworthy. I liked it a lot, but YMMV. Having followed Fryda on Social Media and had frequent interaction with her, I can tell you that she isn't lazy. She's been doing VA work for the past five years, which is not a lot of time for most professional VAs. Personally, I like her as an actress, and I've liked her other performances I have heard from her. I think the nomination, her performance in ME:A, and her killer performance as Lylla in Guardians of the Galaxy speaks highly of how talented she really is. However, it's more than just raw talent. She has done all the hard work herself, including going out and seeking education from the industry's best. She's also spent a lot of money to be a successful VA. As a person, she is the nicest freaking person ever. She is very personable with her fans. She's not egotistical at all. If anything, she is highly critical of herself and very surprised at this and the other attention she has gotten for Mass Effect. She's social media buddies with Jennifer Hale, but doesn't hang out with her. In fact, she has gotten nothing but support from Jennifer since ME:A came out. Her relationship with Jennifer Hale has nothing to do with her abilities as an actor. Y'all know this isn't Taylorson vs Wolff right? The two of them are friends, and go out of their way to support each other. Fryda and Taylorson worked on Octodad together. Fryda has also participated in some of Taylorson's acting lectures. Surprised Taylorson wasn't nominated as well, and I liked his performance but for different reasons. I also really enjoyed Danielle Rayne and Katie Townsend, but neither one were nominated either. Sara is supposed to be a dork and some of the scenes were written to be cringy. Fryda is a bit of a nerdy dork with a streak of serious, so I think a lot of that in Sara is her putting herself into the role, which I appreciated. Like the scene with Suvi, or the overacting scene during Movie Night (which she said she had fun with), and some of the punny jokes. As a VA, myself, I do that too. It makes it more enjoyable for me and the audience if there's a bit of me in it otherwise it's just reading sentences on a page which is the opposite of acting. We are voice "actors" not "line readers." That was her? Damn!
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 25, 2017 17:53:32 GMT
Is it kosher to point out I preffered Taylorson? Well I thought he was significantly better than Meer, though I think Meer captured deadpan better in general. I don’t think any recent Bio game’s ever truly suffered on account of its PC’s VA’s.
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Post by alihou on Sept 25, 2017 18:30:28 GMT
Is it kosher to point out I preffered Taylorson? Well I thought he was significantly better than Meer, though I think Meer captured deadpan better in general. I don’t think any recent Bio game’s ever truly suffered on account of its PC’s VA’s. I thought Taylorson was better, I think the guy has a great voice. Reminds me of Nolan North a lot.
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Post by Inosha T'Rynn on Sept 25, 2017 19:00:38 GMT
She's everywhere. Also the voice of Silk Almond milk right now lol
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Post by melbella on Sept 26, 2017 2:25:40 GMT
Is it kosher to point out I preffered Taylorson? Well I thought he was significantly better than Meer, though I think Meer captured deadpan better in general. I don’t think any recent Bio game’s ever truly suffered on account of its PC’s VA’s.
No, but my ears have. High-pitched squeaky voices (like Sara in MEA) don't go well with them.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 26, 2017 3:17:05 GMT
Well I thought he was significantly better than Meer, though I think Meer captured deadpan better in general. I don’t think any recent Bio game’s ever truly suffered on account of its PC’s VA’s.
No, but my ears have. High-pitched squeaky voices (like Sara in MEA) don't go well with them.
I'd hardly describe her that way.
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Post by alanc9 on Sept 26, 2017 3:37:51 GMT
Isn't her voice mid-range for females?
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Post by kino on Sept 26, 2017 3:51:43 GMT
Yeah, I voted for her work as Sara as well. I thought she nailed it.
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Post by Element Zero on Sept 26, 2017 4:14:07 GMT
I've played 3 full Sara PTs, and two half-PTs. (One got bugged, one is ongoing.) Her performance bothers me so much that I don't think I can even finish my current game. Tom manages to salvage the most cheesy, awkwardly written scenes with sarcasm and wry delivery. By contrast, Fryda is goofy turned up to 11. It's horrible, in my opinion. She seems like a cool person. I wish I could feel differently. I will cast a vote for Aloy's VA in HZD. She was absolutely exceptional. I can't recall a single awkwardly delivered line. That game is so polished. EDIT: What a waste of time. I cast more than a few votes, many of which went to Ashly Burch and HZD. Then, GamesRadar requested my personal info to submit my votes. No thanks. I don't want magazines, and I don't want to pass out my info. I liked HZD but Wolff blew Burch away. Wolff showed a lot of range and nailed ever and was a much more enjoyable performance for me, while IMHO Aloy was all over the place she never seems to a have any kind of personality in game, now if Burch was up for Aloy's mother then I might have went for her there (I think the backstory was more enjoyable) but as Aloy she was just meh. Not bad, but not good either, but then again I think Horizon: Zero Dawn as a game is vastly over-rated. I couldn't disagree more.
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Post by Element Zero on Sept 26, 2017 4:18:44 GMT
What do you mean? That people who liked FemShep will give any female VA a pass? I do love Jen Hale, but wasn't crazy about Jo Wyatt's or Alix Wilton Reagan's performances in the DA franchise (nothing against them or their talent, their performances just didn't resonate with me). If you listen to Fryda's interviews she certainly seems like a hard working VA. Whether or not you liked her performance, I don't think laziness was involved. Alihou, as was already pointed out, being cringeworthy was the intent of that Suvi scene, so mission accomplished! Element Zero, I think Sara is supposed to be kind of a dork. Her awkward flirting with Gil was also cringeworthy. I liked it a lot, but YMMV. Having followed Fryda on Social Media and had frequent interaction with her, I can tell you that she isn't lazy. She's been doing full time VA work for the past five years, which is not a lot of time for most professional VAs. Personally, I like her as an actress, and I've liked her other performances I have heard from her. I think the nomination, her performance in ME:A, and her killer performance as Lylla in Guardians of the Galaxy speaks highly of how talented she really is. However, it's more than just raw talent. She has done all the hard work herself, including going out and seeking education from the industry's best. She's also spent a lot of money to be a successful VA. As a person, she is the nicest freaking person ever. She is very personable with her fans. She's not egotistical at all. If anything, she is highly critical of herself and very surprised at this and the other attention she has gotten for Mass Effect. She's social media buddies with Jennifer Hale, but doesn't hang out with her. In fact, she has gotten nothing but support from Jennifer since ME:A came out. Her relationship with Jennifer Hale has nothing to do with her abilities as an actor. Y'all know this isn't Taylorson vs Wolff right? The two of them are friends, and go out of their way to support each other. Fryda and Taylorson worked on Octodad together. Fryda has also participated in some of Taylorson's acting lectures. Surprised Taylorson wasn't nominated as well, and I liked his performance but for different reasons. I also really enjoyed Danielle Rayne and Katie Townsend, but neither one were nominated either. Sara is supposed to be a dork and some of the scenes were written to be cringy. Fryda is a bit of a nerdy dork with a streak of serious, so I think a lot of that in Sara is her putting herself into the role, which I appreciated. Like the scene with Suvi, or the overacting scene during Movie Night (which she said she had fun with), and some of the punny jokes. As a VA, myself, I do that too. It makes it more enjoyable for me and the audience if there's a bit of me in it otherwise it's just reading sentences on a page which is the opposite of acting. We are voice "actors" not "line readers." I don't think Steelcan was calling her lazy. Unless I'm mistaken, he was implying that many of FemShep's fans naturally gravitated toward Sara. I also don't think Fryda's personality was in question. She seems like a really cool person. Of course it's not Fryda vs Tom. Some of us just feel strongly that Tom was amazing, and that it's a shame he isn't recognized in this particular poll.
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 26, 2017 4:18:49 GMT
Isn't her voice mid-range for females? Pretty much.
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Post by melbella on Sept 26, 2017 4:52:57 GMT
No, but my ears have. High-pitched squeaky voices (like Sara in MEA) don't go well with them.
I'd hardly describe her that way. Isn't her voice mid-range for females?
No offense but neither of you hear with my ears. To me, her voice is too high-pitched, especially when she's shrieking, "Let's do this!" whenever I drive by an enemy camp or "GOGOGO!" while running away from vault smoke. And the giggling makes me want to .
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Post by Guts on Sept 26, 2017 4:56:21 GMT
Wait a second. Wasn't making that scene cringe-worthy Wolff's job? Kallo's line doesn't work otherwise. People tend to blame VAs for the failings of the director and/or writers, unfortunately. I have many problems with ME:A but I thought the VAs were good, even Liam's. The lines they were told to deliver and the manner they delivered them is something else. In this case I thought it was fine. You can question whether a self-confident pathfinder who has faced death on many occasions and made decisions that affect the entirety of humanity in the Heleus Cluster would get so tongue-tied, but that's not Wolff's fault. Anyway, just because you're good at shooting stuff doesn't make you automatically confident with a potential love interest. The anti-SJW's on YouTube do the same thing, except instead of blaming VA's.... Well you know how it is.
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Post by Guts on Sept 26, 2017 5:04:12 GMT
Well I thought he was significantly better than Meer, though I think Meer captured deadpan better in general. I don’t think any recent Bio game’s ever truly suffered on account of its PC’s VA’s. I thought Taylorson was better, I think the guy has a great voice. Reminds me of Nolan North a lot. I felt that he reminded me of a combination between Nathan Fillion and Nolan North. Which is a good thing.
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Post by Element Zero on Sept 26, 2017 5:04:17 GMT
I'd hardly describe her that way. Isn't her voice mid-range for females?
No offense but neither of you hear with my ears. To me, her voice is too high-pitched, especially when she's shrieking, "Let's do this!" whenever I drive by an enemy camp or "GOGOGO!" while running away from vault smoke. And the giggling makes me want to .
Agreed. My wife chuckles as she constantly hears me saying to Sara, "Shut up!", "Why are you yelling?" or "You better stop all that hollerin'!" (I'm not sure from where that last one originates.) I feel that she nearly always sounds either super-excited, panicky or out of breath. This would be fine for scenes to which those are appropriate, but it's nearly every scene. The VA seems to rarely match the needs of the scene.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 26, 2017 5:04:39 GMT
I'd hardly describe her that way. Isn't her voice mid-range for females?
No offense but neither of you hear with my ears. To me, her voice is too high-pitched, especially when she's shrieking, "Let's do this!" whenever I drive by an enemy camp or "GOGOGO!" while running away from vault smoke. And the giggling makes me want to .
That's right you have sensitive ears. I forgot sorry.
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Post by alanc9 on Sept 26, 2017 5:25:57 GMT
I'd hardly describe her that way. Isn't her voice mid-range for females?
No offense but neither of you hear with my ears. To me, her voice is too high-pitched, especially when she's shrieking, "Let's do this!" whenever I drive by an enemy camp or "GOGOGO!" while running away from vault smoke. And the giggling makes me want to .
But surely how high a voice is pitched is an objective fact. Pitch is a matter of frequency. Are you sure "high-pitched" is the right word for what you're describing?
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Post by aslightjump on Sept 26, 2017 5:47:17 GMT
Honestly, I found Male Ryder's performance much better overall but she was mostly fine herself. I do agree with whoever said that at lot of times she seemed to misjudge the intent of the line. So many moments of dull surprise...But still, there were a few parts of the game where she impressed so...good for her.
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Post by Kroitz on Sept 26, 2017 6:30:36 GMT
Sad to see Kyle McCarley isn't included.
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Post by Inosha T'Rynn on Sept 26, 2017 11:50:21 GMT
I don't think Steelcan was calling her lazy. Unless I'm mistaken, he was implying that many of FemShep's fans naturally gravitated toward Sara. I also don't think Fryda's personality was in question. She seems like a really cool person. Of course it's not Fryda vs Tom. Some of us just feel strongly that Tom was amazing, and that it's a shame he isn't recognized in this particular poll. The way that statement was phrased, could lead one to suspect that her work ethic or abilities as an actress were in question. It seemed to imply that she was riding on Jennifer Hale's coattails which still has nothing to do with acting skill, and both of them would abhor the suggestion. That's why I also quoted the other poster; it was with the intention of providing insight into who Fryda is and how much work she has put into her career. In case there were any questions about that. Whether or not fans "gravitated" toward Fryda because of FemShep still has nothing to do with her acting ability. People are going to play female characters because they want to. I played FemRyder out of the gate, but that's because I gravitate toward female characters in general. I also played MaleRyder. Objectively, I think Fryda's nomination is well deserved. Fryda said in an interview a while back that fans were tagging both her and Jennifer Hale in posts trying to compare the two, and she said that she felt it rude to Jennifer, because you're effectively telling a voice actor that she didn't get a job. Voice actors are hired only temporarily, it's not like they get royalties for their work or are on a retainer. I think comparing Fryda to Jen is also rude to both of them. They are different people, different actors, and have strengths and weaknesses in different categories. I find it rudely speculative to imply that someone might like Fryda just because she's the "girl in the franchise." The only ones that can answer why she was nominated are the folks who did so, who aren't here to speak to that. The fact that Fryda is up there along with other male and female VAs, some of whom are more well-known actors (Nathan Fillion, Claudia Black, etc), makes me discount the idea. Same with the idea that notoriety has anything to do with the selection processes. If that were the case, why didn't Natalie Dormer or Indira Varma get nominated? Natalie is a member of the main cast, and Indira voiced two characters and did so very well. All of that is speculative anyway, and still nothing to do with Fryda's talent as an actor. As a voter, I am new to the franchise, so I am playing ME:A alongside the Original Trilogy. I like FemShep, I like Jennifer Hale's acting; my like of her had nothing to do with my opinion of Fryda. I also didn't decide to like Fryda's performance because I felt obligated to or because "she's the girl like FemShep." I like her performance because I thought she did an excellent job bringing the character to life; she wasn't stale and she wasn't a paper doll. Whether I like Sara's personality is also irrelevant; this is a judgment of the actress' performance, not how the character was written or the takes that were chosen in the editing booth. Did she invoke a response from me? Yes.
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Post by Wildfire on Sept 26, 2017 12:47:22 GMT
I'm happy that Wolff got the nomination I don't really believe in the validity of such awards where everyone can vote even if you haven't played all the games, but it's always nice when MEA gets some recognition. The more I listen to Sara, the more I seem to like her voice. Wolff's delivery suits the overall tone of MEA, which is kind of like a comic book and not so serious. I like it how Sara's fun-loving and rather easygoing personality is reflected in her tone and lines even if you choose the logical and professional dialogue choices. Also, she has great chemistry with other characters in MEA. I really want to hear more of Wolff in the future, preferably in MEA2. Sara's flirt scene with Suvi was one of the best Even if Suvi's romance was pretty underwhelming overall... And Sara's also got some hilarious moments with Peebee and Reyes.
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Post by melbella on Sept 26, 2017 12:48:56 GMT
No offense but neither of you hear with my ears. To me, her voice is too high-pitched, especially when she's shrieking, "Let's do this!" whenever I drive by an enemy camp or "GOGOGO!" while running away from vault smoke. And the giggling makes me want to .
But surely how high a voice is pitched is an objective fact. Pitch is a matter of frequency. Are you sure "high-pitched" is the right word for what you're describing?
Yes, the actual number is objective, but what it sounds like to people is not. Should I just say "annoying" and be rather vague about it instead? My complaint has nothing to do with quality of work - it is simply I do not like the sound of her voice, for various reasons, the pitch being one of them.
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