"No Brothels to be in DA4" as per Mark Darrah Tweet.

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Nope but your generalisations and misrepresenting of what was clearly said is.

You trying to ignore the issue or misrepresent it isn't scoring you any points. It's just proving I'm right.

Treating women as objects? I am sure both DAO and DA2 had male prostitutes.

Indeed.

Hell, you can't get out of the TW1 prologue without being railroaded into having sex with Triss.

We're straying into insulting other posters in this thread,
can we calm that down, please.

We're not quite at thread lock, but back to civil discussion, thanks.

So, I read this thread and I have still no idea what is useless resources wasted and what is useful resources ( from what I read from those who argue against brothels ). Help me to define these words in a concrete way, and where you put the distinction, so I can understand what is in your mind. Do you consider that a city should only have functional buildings then ? ( meaning, market, building of the governement, etc etc ) 

For example do you consider that the tavern in Skyhold that is not a functional building, exactly like the brothel, is useful resource ? If not, should we remove the taverns ? If you consider it was useful resources, then If I compare the brothel in DAII and the tavern in Skyhold, why the former is useless resources wasted, and why latter is not ? The tavern in Skyhold doesn't even have quests tied to it, while it was the case for the brothel in DAII. Nothing important happened into it.

And yet, i'm pretty sure we'd have zero taverns in DA4, people would complain.

I'd like some clarification.

Also, should we remove the environments that are totally contextual ? After all, they don't serve the narrative according to what you consider useful ressource, or at least from what I read here and there.

No because, it's pretty and cool on the paper to state : I'd rather not see resources wasted on something useless, but it doesn't mean much, since the relevance of a building or a contextual environment depends on the resources given. A brothel with a lot of quests is no less relevant than another building. You could have a lot of things, fun serious, and very relevant to the story happening in a same building like it was the case with the chantry in DAII, and yes useful for the narrative. Even in a brothel.

For me this excuse is quite weird and stupid to be honest. And doesn't mean much. 

You still haven't explained what I'm misrepresenting. You claimed that the existence of gay and trans people is proof of a "PC" agenda. Then you tried to claim that acknowledging the existence of gay and trans people is an extreme measure.

Your refusal to explain what is being misrepresented does nothing except show that your real problem is that you are not the only person being catered to.

How were brothels an element of darkness in the previous games?

 There were still dark things in Inquistion.

Hmmm, I don't remember there being nudity or sex in LotR, I guess I'll have to rewatch it. It's funny how these "elements of dark fantasy" basically add up to no gays, trans, or people of color and women being raped and treated as objects? It's almost as if BioWare decided they were bad ideas that deserved to be left in the past. Go figure.

Please go back and quote me where I said that dark fantasy equates to the lack of racial and gender diversity.

Yes, I did say that an element of dark fantasy is the references of rape, but also other areas like the realistic portrayal of war, cynicism and so on.

Alsp you are right, there was no nudity in LOTR but I brought it up to show a contrast between dark and high fantasy.

Yes, DAI showed breast and buttocks, but DAO and DA2 also showed more (non sexual) content than DAI which is what a lot of people here are talking about. Why is it that we cannot behead people in DAI but could in the previous 2 games?

Like I said before, either you know that overall DAI is a lighter game but do not want to openly admit it. Or you actually believe that DAI has the SAME tone as DAO and DA2.

Apparently people really care about brothels...