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Post by smilesja on Oct 6, 2017 21:52:47 GMT
They made brothels on the last 2 DA games such a turn off and very boring. It's like they're scared of showing sex in games. 😑 You do realize that the one game that doesn't have a brothel is the same one that actually includes nudity, right? How are they scared of sex when it is getting more and more explicit? Inquisition is the first game where we saw nipples and man's behind.
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Post by cloud9 on Oct 6, 2017 21:55:47 GMT
They made brothels on the last 2 DA games such a turn off and very boring. It's like they're scared of showing sex in games. 😑 You do realize that the one game that doesn't have a brothel is the same one that actually includes nudity, right? How are they scared of sex when it is getting more and more explicit? What's you point?
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Post by Iakus on Oct 6, 2017 22:13:40 GMT
They made brothels on the last 2 DA games such a turn off and very boring. It's like they're scared of showing sex in games. 😑 You do realize that the one game that doesn't have a brothel is the same one that actually includes nudity, right? How are they scared of sex when it is getting more and more explicit? I think I'd rather have the brothels, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 22:24:51 GMT
You do realize that the one game that doesn't have a brothel is the same one that actually includes nudity, right? How are they scared of sex when it is getting more and more explicit? I think I'd rather have the brothels, imo. What's brothels without nudity? Taverns? Casinos? The standards for must haves are getting more and more complicated. Seriously, SWTOR is no nudity, plenty of adult entertainment places on Nar Shadda. That's the thing then? Don't remember SWTOR being particularly praised for its gritty maturity.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 6, 2017 22:25:34 GMT
Brothels eh? If they're in the next game, fine. If they're not in the next game, fine.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 6, 2017 22:28:07 GMT
I think I'd rather have the brothels, imo. What's brothels without nudity? Taverns? Casinos? The standards for must haves are getting more and more complicated. Seriously, SWTOR is no nudity, plenty of adult entertainment places on Nar Shadda. That's the thing then? Don't remember SWTOR being particularly praised for its gritty maturity. That's just it. I'm sick of "gritty maturity".
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Post by river82 on Oct 6, 2017 22:39:32 GMT
Heh, "no Brothels in DA4" thread is 20 pages long, "what I want in DA4" thread is 4 pages long. I think it's clear what the people want
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 6, 2017 22:39:57 GMT
You do realize that the one game that doesn't have a brothel is the same one that actually includes nudity, right? How are they scared of sex when it is getting more and more explicit? What's you point? My point is your statement about Bioware being scared of having sex in their games is objectively false.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 6, 2017 22:41:20 GMT
Heh, "no Brothels in DA4" thread is 20 pages long, "what I want in DA4" thread is 4 pages long. I think it's clear what the people want Unlike this thread, the "What I want in DA4" hasn't had a lot of arguing or going offtopic thus is shorter.
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Post by river82 on Oct 6, 2017 22:43:27 GMT
Heh, "no Brothels in DA4" thread is 20 pages long, "what I want in DA4" thread is 4 pages long. I think it's clear what the people want Unlike this thread, the "What I want in DA4" hasn't had a lot of arguing or going offtopic thus is shorter. Pffft, sounds like an excuse to me
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 6, 2017 22:51:33 GMT
What's brothels without nudity? Taverns? Casinos? The standards for must haves are getting more and more complicated. Seriously, SWTOR is no nudity, plenty of adult entertainment places on Nar Shadda. That's the thing then? Don't remember SWTOR being particularly praised for its gritty maturity. That's just it. I'm sick of "gritty maturity". Sometimes it feels as if it can't be "mature" without "gritty" Uh... I don't recall people calling Lord Of The Rings 'sanitized' or 'disneyified' even without sexual content in it - and that's the book the partial inspiration for which was Tolkien's own experience of horrors of WWI... I have to admit, that I've had the biggest laugh at the expense of people who had very arbitrary definition of 'dark and mature' after TW3 was released. Before that, the frequent argument for Inquisitions 'disneyification' I heard was the bright color palette and beautiful lighting effects, instead of the muddied color of DAO (something that stemmed more from technical limitations and was a bit at odds with its design) or many other games which at that points had fashionably muted color palette or ran everything through yellowish filter, which some confused as a sign that the given game is supposedly mature. And then Witcher 3 comes out. Witcher 3: *amazing, bright, saturated colors* mature-games-need-to-have-muted-colors! crowd: *circkets*
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 6, 2017 22:53:51 GMT
Heh, "no Brothels in DA4" thread is 20 pages long, "what I want in DA4" thread is 4 pages long. I think it's clear what the people want Yes, because every comment in this thread is a clear vote for brothels, or doesn't venture to OT territory 3 times on every page...
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Post by majesticjazz on Oct 6, 2017 22:57:56 GMT
They made brothels on the last 2 DA games such a turn off and very boring. It's like they're scared of showing sex in games. 😑 You do realize that the one game that doesn't have a brothel is the same one that actually includes nudity, right? How are they scared of sex when it is getting more and more explicit? I think it has more to do with context. I think Bioware is okay with showing sex or nudity if it has to do with romantic relationships. However if it is purely lust, then they want to avoid that. The question is, why is it a problem for Bioware now but wasnt in DAO and DA2? I do not remember anyone complaining about brothels then. Weird....
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 6, 2017 23:03:40 GMT
You do realize that the one game that doesn't have a brothel is the same one that actually includes nudity, right? How are they scared of sex when it is getting more and more explicit? I think it has more to do with context. I think Bioware is okay with showing sex or nudity if it has to do with romantic relationships. However if it is purely lust, then they want to avoid that. The question is, why is it a problem for Bioware now but wasnt in DAO and DA2? I do not remember anyone complaining about brothels then. Weird.... Except DAI and especially MEA have multiple casual sex lust encounters as well. More than DA2 and the Shepard Trilogy.
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Post by majesticjazz on Oct 6, 2017 23:33:45 GMT
I think it has more to do with context. I think Bioware is okay with showing sex or nudity if it has to do with romantic relationships. However if it is purely lust, then they want to avoid that. The question is, why is it a problem for Bioware now but wasnt in DAO and DA2? I do not remember anyone complaining about brothels then. Weird.... Except DAI and especially MEA have multiple casual sex lust encounters as well. More than DA2 and the Shepard Trilogy. True, but it is something about Brothels that clearly triggers Bioware in a way they werent with DAO and DA2. The question is, why?
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Post by phoray on Oct 6, 2017 23:35:27 GMT
I think it has more to do with context. I think Bioware is okay with showing sex or nudity if it has to do with romantic relationships. However if it is purely lust, then they want to avoid that. The question is, why is it a problem for Bioware now but wasnt in DAO and DA2? I do not remember anyone complaining about brothels then. Weird.... Except DAI and especially MEA have multiple casual sex lust encounters as well. More than DA2 and the Shepard Trilogy. eh? DAI has literally only one. Unless you're talking about how you can bang and break up with three different people and calling that casual.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 6, 2017 23:39:28 GMT
That's just it. I'm sick of "gritty maturity". Sometimes it feels as if it can't be "mature" without "gritty" Uh... I don't recall people calling Lord Of The Rings 'sanitized' or 'disneyified' even without sexual content in it - and that's the book the partial inspiration for which was Tolkien's own experience of horrors of WWI... I have to admit, that I've had the biggest laugh at the expense of people who had very arbitrary definition of 'dark and mature' after TW3 was released. Before that, the frequent argument for Inquisitions 'disneyification' I heard was the bright color palette and beautiful lighting effects, instead of the muddied color of DAO (something that stemmed more from technical limitations and was a bit at odds with its design) or many other games which at that points had fashionably muted color palette or ran everything through yellowish filter, which some confused as a sign that the given game is supposedly mature. And then Witcher 3 comes out. Witcher 3: *amazing, bright, saturated colors* mature-games-need-to-have-muted-colors! crowd: *circkets* Yup, you can have a "mature" story without going all "dark and gritty" Game of Thrones and the Witcher have become a cancer.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Oct 6, 2017 23:46:13 GMT
Except DAI and especially MEA have multiple casual sex lust encounters as well. More than DA2 and the Shepard Trilogy. True, but it is something about Brothels that clearly triggers Bioware in a way they werent with DAO and DA2. The question is, why? The need to protect the delicate wimminz.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 6, 2017 23:54:16 GMT
Except DAI and especially MEA have multiple casual sex lust encounters as well. More than DA2 and the Shepard Trilogy. True, but it is something about Brothels that clearly triggers Bioware in a way they werent with DAO and DA2. The question is, why? It... doesn't? They just don't have brothels in a game that doesn't have an extensive city? Must this really be more complicated than this? I mean, you'd be on to something if some of the devs went on a tirade against brothels or the game was chaste as a lamb (or the devs were chaste as a lamb, which they aren't).... but it clearly isn't? Not with banters about sex, even ones about hiring prostitutes or picking wenches for a night, content full of sex scenes and nudity for a PC and even scenes where a Chevalier betrays Gaspard for a single hot and steamy night with Celene, which ends up with him being tied naked to her bed and so on. Seriously, you need to get over being so triggered by Bioware and creating conspiracy theories about them. It'd be good for your health.
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Post by pinkjellybeans on Oct 6, 2017 23:56:24 GMT
Except DAI and especially MEA have multiple casual sex lust encounters as well. More than DA2 and the Shepard Trilogy. eh? DAI has literally only one. Unless you're talking about how you can bang and break up with three different people and calling that casual. I know, right? I was about to say I must have played a different game because I don't remember having the option to bang anyone apart from my romance choice. lol I do agree that MEA is way more open and casual. I was actually surprised you can even have casual sex with one of your companions and relationships in general are locked way later than in DAI. DAI it usually starts with only a kiss and you're instantly locked. In MEA you can sort of test the waters first in most cases and the committing comes later on, which is what I want for DA4 as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 23:57:40 GMT
Heh, I am old enough to remember LotR abundantly criticized for being sterile and sanitized vs newer fantasy of Martin's vintage and the exact same arguments about the grittiness of war, and how Elrond's wife was raped and murdered by Orcs somewhere in Appendices were raised "in defense" of its true-dark heart.
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 7, 2017 0:06:58 GMT
Except DAI and especially MEA have multiple casual sex lust encounters as well. More than DA2 and the Shepard Trilogy. True, but it is something about Brothels that clearly triggers Bioware in a way they werent with DAO and DA2. The question is, why? All I see being triggered by this issue are a handful of fans.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 7, 2017 0:07:00 GMT
Heh, I am old enough to remember LotR abundantly criticized for being sterile and sanitized vs newer fantasy of Martin's vintage and the exact same arguments about the grittiness of war, and how Elrond's wife was raped and murdered by Orcs somewhere in Appendices were raised "in defense" of its true-dark heart. “It was Sam's first view of a battle of Men against Men and he did not like it much. He was glad he could not see the dead face. He wondered what the man's name was and where he came from; and if he was really evil of heart, or what lies and threats had led him on the long march from his home; and if he would no rather have stayed there in peace ”
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Post by smilesja on Oct 7, 2017 0:14:13 GMT
True, but it is something about Brothels that clearly triggers Bioware in a way they werent with DAO and DA2. The question is, why? The need to protect the delicate wimminz. Oh great, we're going back to the PC debate again? Ridiculous.
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