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Post by thats1evildude on Nov 3, 2017 5:33:56 GMT
Again, an example of how far TW3 would go and Bioware shys away from. Why does his hair blow throughout that entire cutscene even though they're indoors? At any rate, you've failed to impress me that Witcher 3 is particularly "darker" than Dragon Age. We've had serial killers: Kelder and Quentin spring to mind. No nude fresh corpses, mind you, but you also got to perform the killing blow and didn't go to a shitty fade to black. Also, I have to reiterate how much I fucking HATE Geralt's voice.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 3, 2017 5:35:08 GMT
Again, an example of how far TW3 would go and Bioware shys away from. Why does his hair blow throughout that entire cutscene even though they're indoors? At any rate, you've failed to impress me that Witcher 3 is particularly "darker" than Dragon Age. We've had serial killers: Kelder and Quentin spring to mind. No nude fresh corpses, mind you, but you also got to see the killing blow performed on them. Also, I have to reiterate how much I fucking HATE Geralt's voice. But naked corpses of prostitutes makes the game more mature!
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Post by Nightscrawl on Nov 3, 2017 6:00:16 GMT
The nudity is also much tastefully done and tied to romance as opposed to paid service or fling. There’s basically a revolutionary in or laid plus we have rogues everywhere and was there one mention of sexual misdeeds in any codex entry’s . Compare this to the dao demerim which is full of vile deeds. Just an observation with no Proof of a change in direction So I guess you forgot about the scene in WEWH where you can find that naked guy tied up in Celene's bed? There is also the suggestion that Gatt was raped by his Tevinter master (not sure if there are any other examples or rape mentions), and also lot of talk surrounding Iron Bull's sexuality and his adventures with NPCs. There is quite a bit of sexual content all throughout DAI that is not related to romance.
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 3, 2017 10:51:21 GMT
Why not both? It's twice the fun! Because they are doing it to make money, so giving money away is counterproductive to their goal. *sigh*
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 3, 2017 10:56:54 GMT
Again, an example of how far TW3 would go and Bioware shys away from. Why does his hair blow throughout that entire cutscene even though they're indoors? At any rate, you've failed to impress me that Witcher 3 is particularly "darker" than Dragon Age. We've had serial killers: Kelder and Quentin spring to mind. No nude fresh corpses, mind you, but you also got to perform the killing blow and didn't go to a shitty fade to black. Also, I have to reiterate how much I fucking HATE Geralt's voice. Can you enlighten me how Dragon Age is better than Witcher on certain things like story, themes, and sexuality? I'll wait......
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Post by thats1evildude on Nov 3, 2017 11:03:22 GMT
As I haven’t played The Witcher games, you’ll be waiting a long time.
That’s not to say I’m not familiar with the series. I’ve been subjected to dozens of Witcher gameplay videos and trailers over the years by unrelenting Witcher fans insisting that everyone must worship the series with the same level of fervour as they do. It caused my mild indifference to fester into pure hatred.
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 3, 2017 11:09:07 GMT
As I haven’t played The Witcher games, you’ll be waiting a long time. And I was expecting a challenge. What a shame.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 11:36:18 GMT
I suppose he is refering to a silent protagonist i guess.
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Post by sageoflife on Nov 3, 2017 16:04:28 GMT
The nudity is also much tastefully done and tied to romance as opposed to paid service or fling. There’s basically a revolutionary in or laid plus we have rogues everywhere and was there one mention of sexual misdeeds in any codex entry’s . Compare this to the dao demerim which is full of vile deeds. Just an observation with no Proof of a change in direction So I guess you forgot about the scene in WEWH where you can find that naked guy tied up in Celene's bed? There is also the suggestion that Gatt was raped by his Tevinter master ( not sure if there are any other examples or rape mentions), and also lot of talk surrounding Iron Bull's sexuality and his adventures with NPCs. There is quite a bit of sexual content all throughout DAI that is not related to romance. Human!Cole: There were beatings. Worse than beatings. "If you tell anyone, I'll say you used blood magic." Spirit!Cole: Yes. Beatings, worse. "Do you remember telling me no? You can't do that now. The Tranquil don't say no to anything." From a banter with Cassandra after Cole's personal quest.
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Post by alanc9 on Nov 3, 2017 16:08:18 GMT
Discussion question : were the revelations about qunari culture in DAI controversial because people wanted sexism in Thedas, and the qunari were the last hope for that? Perceived as a retcon promoting inconsistency within the game solely to be less offensive ... as opposed to their horns which was a retcon to make them look less like frogs, I'm guessing. Sure, but I was questioning what drove the perception. There's no actual retcon, after all. Horns were a retcon; or rather, a restoration of the pre-release continuity. As Hanako mentioned, Sten was supposed to have horns, but they couldn't get helmets to work. (This must have been changed early in development since he appears in the Sacred Ashes trailer.)
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Post by majesticjazz on Nov 3, 2017 16:10:14 GMT
The point is the comparison of how the Widow quest would have been handled had CDPR been at the helm given how they tackle sidequest and approach many themes in TW series. Exhibit A The fact that you have no substantial rebuttal beyond some image goes to the fact that you cannot argue against the idea that the Widow Hinterlands quest would have been handled differently in a TW3 setting and that your comparison of Justin Bieber success to Witcher 3 success was not really the best comparison. Posting gifs/images is just another way of saying, "I dont like or agree with your stance but I have no substantial way of rebutting you."
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Post by majesticjazz on Nov 3, 2017 16:22:05 GMT
Why does his hair blow throughout that entire cutscene even though they're indoors? At any rate, you've failed to impress me that Witcher 3 is particularly "darker" than Dragon Age. We've had serial killers: Kelder and Quentin spring to mind. No nude fresh corpses, mind you, but you also got to see the killing blow performed on them. Also, I have to reiterate how much I fucking HATE Geralt's voice. But naked corpses of prostitutes makes the game more mature! I knew this was going to be the response. If you look beyond just naked women, the whole point is that the scene depicts the worst parts of humanity and the results of evil/corrupt people. The naked women serves as a personal way of hitting across the message that Whoreson Jr is a bad man and the naked women is just a way to add more emotional anger at the dude and really have the player feel that same hate for the guy that Geralt has. However if you just saw naked women then Im sorry, I cannot help that you cant see the emotional message behind the naked bodies and all you see is naked dead ladies. Either way, it is still an example to show that CDPR isnt afriad to add such content even if it offends people.
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Post by shinary on Nov 3, 2017 16:23:59 GMT
But that is irrelevant. The point is the comparison of how the Widow quest would have been handled had CDPR been at the helm given how they tackle sidequest and approach many themes in TW series. Exhibit A I always thought the botchling quest was worse. *shivers* but these quests are not good because they are willing to show horror stuff, but because of how they were written. And it isn't a horror game, so though it definitely didn't hurt the witcher games, I wouldn't say it's necessary for a dark fantasy game. I always thought that the horror was in the stories themselves. I don't need to see dead children in order to feel sick to my stomach. Hearing about it is enough.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 3, 2017 16:55:59 GMT
The fact that you have no substantial rebuttal beyond some image goes to the fact that you cannot argue against the idea that the Widow Hinterlands quest would have been handled differently in a TW3 setting and that your comparison of Justin Bieber success to Witcher 3 success was not really the best comparison. Posting gifs/images is just another way of saying, "I dont like or agree with your stance but I have no substantial way of rebutting you." Oh, if you want words then I have plenty of them to rebut that scene and the argument you are using it to support. However, the OP wishes for any Witcher discussions on their thread to stop so I will respect that and our conversation will have to wait for another day.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 3, 2017 16:57:34 GMT
Considering you were caught red handed promoting illegal activities, I wouldn't exactly call your views on sexuality very mature. Indeed, I do not doubt your views on the matter are that of a fifteen year old who only just recently saw his first picture of a naked woman. How old are you, anyway? Fifteen? Twenty? What is the difference between mental and physical age for you? Wait, what is this you are referring to?
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Post by alanc9 on Nov 3, 2017 17:00:51 GMT
Might as well wait. Someone's gonna bring up TW3 later this afternoon, after all.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 3, 2017 17:14:14 GMT
Perceived as a retcon promoting inconsistency within the game solely to be less offensive ... as opposed to their horns which was a retcon to make them look less like frogs, I'm guessing. Bioware always wanted the qunari to have horns, they just couldn't make it work in Origins thus Sten is a hornless qunari. No retcon there. True enough, which is why I accept it. However, the Qunari are also described in codex entries as "bronze skinned giants" and wearing steel armor. None of which seemed to be true in later entries.
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Post by alanc9 on Nov 3, 2017 17:21:16 GMT
The steel armor thing was weird, yeah. Something that changed with the DA2 art redesign, I guess.
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Post by thats1evildude on Nov 3, 2017 17:46:43 GMT
Bioware always wanted the qunari to have horns, they just couldn't make it work in Origins thus Sten is a hornless qunari. No retcon there. True enough, which is why I accept it. However, the Qunari are also described in codex entries as "bronze skinned giants" and wearing steel armor. None of which seemed to be true in later entries. Check out their armour on the epilogue screen from Trespasser. The qunari only put on the armour for war.
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Post by shechinah on Nov 3, 2017 17:52:40 GMT
Bioware always wanted the qunari to have horns, they just couldn't make it work in Origins thus Sten is a hornless qunari. No retcon there. True enough, which is why I accept it. However, the Qunari are also described in codex entries as "bronze skinned giants" and wearing steel armor. None of which seemed to be true in later entries. To be fair, wasn't that description only in Origin's codex entry and different in the subsequent games? From what I remember, they didn't know if they'd be able to make a second game. They may also not have known whether it'd be possible to show horned qunari if they would be able to. Heh, the codex entry notes how for quite a long time it was believed that the qunari were either an all-male race or that qunari men and women were indistinguishable.
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Post by shechinah on Nov 3, 2017 17:53:46 GMT
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Post by shechinah on Nov 3, 2017 17:59:14 GMT
The steel armor thing was weird, yeah. Something that changed with the DA2 art redesign, I guess. To be fair, the qunari encountered in Dragon Age II were shipwreck survivors and likely removed what armor they could to avoid drowning. That said, it was an art direction that continued on from that game. Except for their black eyes. I still miss those. Thought they looked so cool
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Post by Iakus on Nov 3, 2017 18:24:04 GMT
True enough, which is why I accept it. However, the Qunari are also described in codex entries as "bronze skinned giants" and wearing steel armor. None of which seemed to be true in later entries. To be fair, wasn't that description only in Origin's codex entry and different in the subsequent games? From what I remember, they didn't know if they'd be able to make a second game. They may also not have known whether it'd be possible to show horned qunari if they would be able to. Heh, the codex entry notes how for quite a long time it was believed that the qunari were either an all-male race or that qunari men and women were indistinguishable. The horned aspect I understand. But all qunari shown since then have had grayish skin, not bronze. Has the entire race developed a Vitamin D deficiency since 9:30 Dragon?
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Post by Serza on Nov 3, 2017 18:24:22 GMT
Considering you were caught red handed promoting illegal activities, I wouldn't exactly call your views on sexuality very mature. Indeed, I do not doubt your views on the matter are that of a fifteen year old who only just recently saw his first picture of a naked woman. How old are you, anyway? Fifteen? Twenty? What is the difference between mental and physical age for you? Wait, what is this you are referring to? Please, that is the guy who talked openly about how prostitution is an awesome thing.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 3, 2017 18:25:49 GMT
Wait, what is this you are referring to? Please, that is the guy who talked openly about how prostitution is an awesome thing. Oh. For some reason I thought you were referring to something else. Sorry about that.
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