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Post by JRandall0308 on Nov 13, 2017 19:24:32 GMT
Nobody gives a shit about reddit.
Which is a wise policy if you ask me.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 13, 2017 19:25:37 GMT
In hindsight LOTR Shadow of War's MT system, while still incredibly annoying, pales in comparison to what is apparently coming with Battlefront 2. Do you think so? Introducing tweaks and grind for in-game progress to promote paid cheats is pretty much a new quality of the shitcrate. P2W has been done in MP before already - paid cheats not so much. OK, there was the last Deus Ex that did it too - it kinda didn't hit the audience that hard. That's because Deus Ex: Mankind Divided had New Game +, so midway through your second playthrough(if you were a completionist) you had all the abilities unlocked anyway without spending a dime on MT. |
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Post by Vortex13 on Nov 13, 2017 19:26:34 GMT
In hindsight LOTR Shadow of War's MT system, while still incredibly annoying, pales in comparison to what is apparently coming with Battlefront 2. Do you think so? Introducing tweaks and grind for in-game progress to promote paid cheats is pretty much a new quality of the shitcrate. P2W has been done in MP before already - paid cheats not so much. OK, there was the last Deus Ex that did it too - it kinda didn't hit the audience that hard. I'd forgotten about the Deus Ex MT fanfare. Wasn't the grind and restrictions in that game actually worse than in Shadow of War though? I could have sworn that Deus Ex actually locked 'skill points' behind a paywall. At least with LOTR you're just paying for a slightly better orc. Not that I support either system, or any form of MT in single player, just pointing out the lesser of two evils. EDIT: Ninja'd. Still, having to use new game + for a full, completionist experience over spending money is pretty crappy. Especially when you consider most people don't actually play a second time through. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 13, 2017 19:42:19 GMT
Do you think so? Introducing tweaks and grind for in-game progress to promote paid cheats is pretty much a new quality of the shitcrate. P2W has been done in MP before already - paid cheats not so much. OK, there was the last Deus Ex that did it too - it kinda didn't hit the audience that hard. I'd forgotten about the Deus Ex MT fanfare. Wasn't the grind and restrictions in that game actually worse than in Shadow of War though? I could have sworn that Deus Ex actually locked 'skill points' behind a paywall. At least with LOTR you're just paying for a slightly better orc. Not that I support either system, or any form of MT in single player, just pointing out the lesser of two evils. EDIT: Ninja'd. Still, having to use new game + for a full, completionist experience over spending money is pretty crappy. Especially when you consider most people don't actually play a second time through. I don't see how. In most RPGs you can't unlock and master every skill available to the protagonist in a single playthrough. At least NG+ allowed it, unlike say the games of the Shepard Trilogy where you never could even with NG+. I don't like MT for SP stuff, but if you can unlock them normally in the game then I don't really care since then just don't buy them. |
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Post by smilesja on Nov 13, 2017 19:43:04 GMT
How about not buying the game? You can do that too, but there's no reason not to voice your annoyance in regards to things you disagree with. It's not like anyone else is holding back on other matters. *cough*"representation"*cough*
What I find curious is consumers that feel the need to protect a mega corporation that really needs no help to protect its interests. It's the consumers that are mostly powerless in this equation, not EA. (or rather, that power isn't focused with the consumers, and therefore very limited)
EA is still making tons of cash no matter what, it's the games you are going to play that will become progressively more pushy and annoying in regards to pushing you towards MT. Yet, for some reason you (and others) still see them as victims somehow.
What are you talking who says I’m protecting EA? I don’t like their practices it’s just that they’re not the worst company in America bad. |
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Post by smilesja on Nov 13, 2017 19:43:38 GMT
Anyway I’m probably going to be he only one who’ll buy the game.  |
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Post by Vortex13 on Nov 13, 2017 19:45:25 GMT
Anyway I’m probably going to be he only one who’ll buy the game.  You should wait about a week. If things get much worse you could probably pick up a new copy for about 8 bucks  |
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Post by smilesja on Nov 13, 2017 19:49:59 GMT
What are you talking who says I’m protecting EA? I don’t like their practices it’s just that they’re not the worst company in America bad. Yeah, everyone agreed on that I think, it just seemed that you really cared about the fact that people were protesting their practices in one of the only ways they had. The best and most efficient way is to vote with your wallet. |
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Post by crashsuit on Nov 13, 2017 19:51:37 GMT
Maybe their eventual end goal is to have just a single player buying a billion dollars' worth of DLC per game.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 13, 2017 19:52:10 GMT
Anyway I’m probably going to be he only one who’ll buy the game.  I'm getting it later tonight actually. |
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Post by smilesja on Nov 13, 2017 20:00:24 GMT
Anyway I’m probably going to be he only one who’ll buy the game. I'm getting it later tonight actually. I wonder if I can still pre order. |
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Post by Gya on Nov 13, 2017 20:03:06 GMT
Maybe their eventual end goal is to have just a single player buying a billion dollars' worth of DLC per game. And to think, people were claiming "single-player gaming" was dying... |
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Post by N7Mith on Nov 13, 2017 20:05:29 GMT
This is different. There are more than 300,000 downvotes on the companys response. If any decent fraction of those cancel preorders it's a huge blow. If word of mouth spreads it's even greater. And this is a title ea was banking on harder. The beta was enough to decide not to pre-order. At least for me and most of my friends I played with. All we can do now is hope the game community comes to their fucking senses and boycots the shit out of pay to win games. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 13, 2017 20:09:19 GMT
Well, I'm still looking forward to the game. Getting it later tonight.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 13, 2017 20:15:11 GMT
Gonna try to pre-order it.
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 13, 2017 20:25:55 GMT
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A single-player campaign of 5-7 hours?
That's barely a DLC and was the only reason I was slightly interested.
More generally, if EA just spent $400m on Respawn (and gutting Visceral) they are going to want a return on their investment.
Aside of forum and reddit hate, my suspicion is that despite some reduced game sales due to microtransactions, the amount enough people spend on those items more than makes up for it.
Boycotts and campaigns, whilst worthy, I don't think they actually impact the bottom line, or companies would stop doing this.
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 13, 2017 20:37:46 GMT
Battlefront II A single-player campaign of 5-7 hours? That's barely a DLC and was the only reason I was slightly interested. More generally, if EA just spent $400m on Respawn (and gutting Visceral) they are going to want a return on their investment. Aside of forum and reddit hate, my suspicion is that despite some reduced game sales due to microtransactions, the amount enough people spend on those items more than makes up for it. Boycotts and campaigns, whilst worthy, I don't think they actually impact the bottom line, or companies would stop doing this. We'll see. My bet is that the bottom line for SW titles is higher because of the license cost they have to shell out to Disney. |
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Post by poultrymancer on Nov 13, 2017 22:58:24 GMT
A single-player campaign of 5-7 hours? That's barely a DLC and was the only reason I was slightly interested. Same here. I bought the first one (foolishly) assuming it'd have single-player content, or at least the ability to single-play big arena battles as was possible in the older-generation version that came out 15(ish?) years ago. Ultimately my fault since I'd have known it wasn't what I wanted if I'd bothered to read much about it ahead of time, but still a big disappointment, and not a mistake I'll be repeating. |
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Nov 14, 2017 0:16:49 GMT
Reddit Newblet question: I keep seeing "gilded," but I have no idea what it means.
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Post by crashsuit on Nov 14, 2017 0:27:57 GMT
Reddit Newblet question: I keep seeing "gilded," but I have no idea what it means. Someone paid several real world dollars to add a gold star next to someone's comment or post. That person gets to view reddit ad-free for one month, plus they get access to a few other premium features. It's possible to give gold anonymously or with your name attached, and it's also possible to buy it for yourself. The money goes to staff salary and server upkeep, generally. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 14, 2017 0:37:12 GMT
I had always assumed that if you got downvoted too many and too quickly, you'd go into cardiac arrest. I gotta stop listening to these old wives' tales. |
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Post by Andrew Waples on Nov 14, 2017 0:42:38 GMT
I'm getting it later tonight actually. I wonder if I can still pre order. Probably, mines already downloaded and ready to go for tomorrow  Its been sittng there for a couple of days now. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 14, 2017 0:43:35 GMT
As one who dreams of a proper singleplayer-focused Star Wars game, I would revel in this thing's fiery demise.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 14, 2017 1:00:35 GMT
Just preordered my copy! Can’t wait to play it later on!
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Post by snook on Nov 14, 2017 1:54:28 GMT
Unless Reddit outrage effects their bottom line somehow, I assure you they're not gonna give a shit. EA sees numbers and nothing more.
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