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Post by hero11n7 on Oct 13, 2017 16:52:07 GMT
No one misunderstand me. I'd prefer not to be tied to the inquisition either; I just figured it was a given considering the ending of trespasser. I'd much rather do my own thing than march to someone else's beat.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 13, 2020 13:35:13 GMT
In my opinion: (Lord of the Rings: the return of the King) Aragorn = Inquisitor Gandalf = Varric Legolas = Dorian Frodo = new Protagonist
We are a sort of spy no LOF. the new PC won't see the inquistion before the end, but see varric. I hope we see cinematics what the inquisition do, depending on what we have decided in the other games.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Dec 13, 2020 14:11:40 GMT
The most, the very MOST I want to see of the Inquisitor is a playable prologue where the Inquisitor confronts Solas and gets blasted to smithereens.
I don't need the entire Inquisition to be wiped out, but given that they're supposed to be acting covertly, with much reduced resources, I'm hoping its involvement in the plot will be minor.
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Post by wickedcool on Dec 16, 2020 15:56:26 GMT
We have them pointing to tevinter after trespasser and now we have some confirmation Varric is involved. Seems to me there’s a strong implication the inquisition is involved. My guess is we report to varric and he’s our advisor/war table operator
He’s the only one that technically can’t leave the inquisition so he statists all world states plus he has contacts/resources to run a newly formed spy operation
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 16, 2020 16:19:49 GMT
My guess is we report to varric and he’s our advisor/war table operator He’s the only one that technically can’t leave the inquisition so he statists all world states plus he has contacts/resources to run a newly formed spy operation From the main 12 (DAI companions and Advisors) when Varric is only option but there is other better candidates for Inquisition contacts than Varric. I am talking about Charter and maybe Harding.
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Post by arvaarad on Dec 16, 2020 16:42:06 GMT
My guess is we report to varric and he’s our advisor/war table operator He’s the only one that technically can’t leave the inquisition so he statists all world states plus he has contacts/resources to run a newly formed spy operation From the main 12 (DAI companions and Advisors) when Varric is only option but there is other better candidates for Inquisition contacts than Varric. I am talking about Charter and maybe Harding. I’m thinking it IS Charter, with Varric showing up now and then when his connections are relevant. She’s showed up in multiple stories/comics dealing with the Inquisition, she seems like a very safe bet for DA4. But literally no one would recognize Charter or associate her with the Inquisition unless they just got back from hearing one of her 2(?) voice lines in DA:I. They’d probably think she was supposed to be the Inquisitor or something (no doubt launching endless discussions about why they made the female elf rogue Inquisitor canon, or why she has 2 arms now). Since Varric’s voice is immediately recognizable, he can say he represents the Inquisition without causing that kind of confusion. I expect in the actual game, his involvement will be much more modest, like Morrigan’s was in DA:I.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 16, 2020 16:54:22 GMT
I’m thinking it IS Charter, with Varric showing up now and then when his connections are relevant. She’s showed up in multiple stories/comics dealing with the Inquisition, she seems like a very safe bet for DA4. But literally no one would recognize Charter or associate her with the Inquisition unless they just got back from hearing one of her 2(?) voice lines in DA:I. They’d probably think she was supposed to be the Inquisitor or something (no doubt launching endless discussions about why they made the female elf rogue Inquisitor canon, or why she has 2 arms now). Since Varric’s voice is immediately recognizable, he can say he represents the Inquisition without causing that kind of confusion. I expect in the actual game, his involvement will be much more modest, like Morrigan’s was in DA:I. Here is my hope that the main Inquisition contact for our party isn´t Varric or Charter but Harding. Everyone who have played DAI knows Harding maybe they don´t remember her name but that she was the Inquisition scout.
Charter is more like the new Leliana (less screentime) and acts more like Harding boss in DA 4. The question does it really matter that if some people don´t know Charter before? I don´t think so because like Calpernia or other characters Bioware will explain them for people who don´t know her.
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Post by Gileadan on Dec 16, 2020 17:00:22 GMT
Ideally there will be no connection at all. After all, the Inquisition was riddled with Solas's spies and then possibly dissolved at the end of Trespasser. Plus I remember some DA4 tag line saying "what will you do when those in power do nothing" or some such and think that should include whatever Inquisition remnant is still around by the time DA4 starts.
New protagonist, new companions, new... well, everything.
Now unfortunately we will get Varric whom Solas does know, so yeah... so much for that plan.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 16, 2020 17:06:15 GMT
Ideally there will be no connection at all. New protagonist, new companions, new... well, everything. Now unfortunately we will get Varric whom Solas does know, so yeah... so much for that plan. Every Dragon Age game even Awakening had connections to the previous game. So i don´t mind that the Inquisition plays a big role in DA 4. I even welcome this only if they give us more options to deal with the Inquisition and make them more grey.
But i don´t like the idea that Varric is our Inquisition contact. It should be someone else.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 16, 2020 17:16:44 GMT
Ideally there will be no connection at all. New protagonist, new companions, new... well, everything. Now unfortunately we will get Varric whom Solas does know, so yeah... so much for that plan. Every Dragon Age game even Awakening had connections to the previous game. So i don´t mind that the Inquisition plays a big role in DA 4. I even welcome this only if they give us more options to deal with Inquisition and make him more grey.
But i don´t like the idea that Varric is our Inquisition contact. It should be someone else.
What do you mean by the underlined?
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Post by luketrevelyan on Dec 16, 2020 17:20:19 GMT
The Inquisition is going to have to be involved in some capacity. Whether we disbanded or not should play a role I hope. Also it would be neat if we could support or oppose them or at least state our views. Definitely possible we could be working for the Inquisition as well.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 16, 2020 17:28:28 GMT
Ideally there will be no connection at all. After all, the Inquisition was riddled with Solas's spies and then possibly dissolved at the end of Trespasser. Plus I remember some DA4 tag line saying "what will you do when those in power do nothing" or some such and think that should include whatever Inquisition remnant is still around by the time DA4 starts. New protagonist, new companions, new... well, everything. Now unfortunately we will get Varric whom Solas does know, so yeah... so much for that plan. If we get him like morrigan at a later time period, when we are behind him, it can work. the timeline is importend.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 16, 2020 17:38:22 GMT
What do you mean by the underlined? Thanks that was a typo. I meant that DA 4 should give us more options who to deal with the Inquisition and don´t make them the pure god guys without any flaws. So yeah it would be great if the new hero don´t have to share the Inquisition goals and make his / her own decision.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 16, 2020 17:41:44 GMT
What do you mean by the underlined? Thanks that was a typo. I meant that DA 4 should give us more options who to deal with the Inquisition and don´t make them the pure god guys without any flaws That’s one of the things I’m dreading. I can easily see them being ruined by the choices made from the previous game now being done by NPC, like ones who want to redeem Solas being utterly incompetent because we can’t hurt him or ones who chose to stop him being utter monsters going after him no matter the cost to civilians.
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Post by Gileadan on Dec 16, 2020 17:41:54 GMT
Ideally there will be no connection at all. New protagonist, new companions, new... well, everything. Now unfortunately we will get Varric whom Solas does know, so yeah... so much for that plan. Every Dragon Age game even Awakening had connections to the previous game. So i don´t mind that the Inquisition plays a big role in DA 4. I even welcome this only if they give us more options to deal with Inquisition and make him more grey.
But i don´t like the idea that Varric is our Inquisition contact. It should be someone else.
I'm fine with connections to the previous game. I just don't want the Inquisition leave a trail for Solas to follow right to my backyard. That was what all this "we need someone Solas doesn't know" was all about or so I thought. What good is a new protagonist for that supposed reason if other people known to Solas are tagging along? Might as well play as the Inquisitor again then. Personally I had enough of the Inquisition and the people associated with it. Its time in the spotlight is over. I hope the game sticks with the "you are alone and no one in power is going to help you" theme.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 16, 2020 17:43:23 GMT
Every Dragon Age game even Awakening had connections to the previous game. So i don´t mind that the Inquisition plays a big role in DA 4. I even welcome this only if they give us more options to deal with Inquisition and make him more grey.
But i don´t like the idea that Varric is our Inquisition contact. It should be someone else.
I'm fine with connections to the previous game. I just don't want the Inquisition leave a trail for Solas to follow right to my backyard. That was what all this "we need someone Solas doesn't know" was all about or so I thought. What good is a new protagonist for that supposed reason if other people known to Solas are tagging along? Might as well play as the Inquisitor again then. Personally I had enough of the Inquisition and the people associated with it. Its time in the spotlight is over. I hope the game sticks with the "you are alone and no one in power is going to help you" theme. So ruin the Inquisitor and Inquisition even more than they already are by going back on their vow and letting the world die? Fuck that.
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Post by Gileadan on Dec 16, 2020 17:48:22 GMT
I'm fine with connections to the previous game. I just don't want the Inquisition leave a trail for Solas to follow right to my backyard. That was what all this "we need someone Solas doesn't know" was all about or so I thought. What good is a new protagonist for that supposed reason if other people known to Solas are tagging along? Might as well play as the Inquisitor again then. Personally I had enough of the Inquisition and the people associated with it. Its time in the spotlight is over. I hope the game sticks with the "you are alone and no one in power is going to help you" theme. So ruin the Inquisitor and Inquisition even more than they already are by going back on their vow and letting the world die? Fuck that. Doesn't mean anyone has to go back on their vows. They could have died heroically in the attempt. Or, a bit more likely, they'd get thrown the idiot ball like wardens, mages and templars and the old Inquisition (in the two years between the base game and Trespasser) before them and fumble around without getting results. But luckily there will be the new protagonist to fix it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 16, 2020 17:51:28 GMT
So ruin the Inquisitor and Inquisition even more than they already are by going back on their vow and letting the world die? Fuck that. Doesn't mean anyone has to go back on their vows. They could have died heroically in the attempt. Or, a bit more likely, they'd get thrown the idiot ball like wardens, mages and templars and the old Inquisition (in the two years between the base game and Trespasser) before them and fumble around without getting results. But luckily there will be the new protagonist to fix it. Every word you have just said is absolutely awful.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 16, 2020 17:55:47 GMT
So ruin the Inquisitor and Inquisition even more than they already are by going back on their vow and letting the world die? Fuck that. Who said that the Inquisition is right about everything? And why not have the option to support Solas?
This would be interesting for player choices. You don´t have to play this but its always good to have more (evil) options to roleplay.
But we all know that Bioware won´t give us this option because like the whole Solas story Solas won´t destory the world. So i don´t care the Inquisitor isn´t back or isn´t the one who stops Solas. Solas threat is so laughable because Bioware won´t allow him to win so what´s the point in this "hero must stop villian in destroying Thedas / World" plot again if the story wasn´t any other path to offer?
I mean even a nug as a playable hero would stop Solas because he isn´t allowed to destroy the world.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 16, 2020 17:57:04 GMT
So ruin the Inquisitor and Inquisition even more than they already are by going back on their vow and letting the world die? Fuck that. Who said that the Inquisition is right about everything? And why not have the option to support Solas? This would be interesting for player choices. You don´t have to play this but its always good to have more (evil) options to roleplay.
But we all know that Bioware won´t give us this option because like the whole Solas story Solas won´t destory the world. So i don´t care the Inquisitor isn´t back or isn´t the one who stops Solas. Solas threat is so laughable because Bioware won´t allow him to win so what´s the point in this hero must stop villian in destroying Thedas / World plot again if the story wasn´t any other path. I mean even a nug as a playable hero would stop Solas because he isn´t allowed to destroy the world.
Un, none of this has anything to do with what I posted.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 16, 2020 18:02:50 GMT
Un, none of this has anything to do with what I posted. Then let me say it like this. I really don´t care for the Solas story. I hate that we have after Corypheus someone who wants to destroy the world again. Man i am really getting tired of this story. But fortunately there is enough stories which are interessing.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 16, 2020 18:33:08 GMT
So ruin the Inquisitor and Inquisition even more than they already are by going back on their vow and letting the world die? Fuck that. Who said that the Inquisition is right about everything? And why not have the option to support Solas?
This would be interesting for player choices. You don´t have to play this but its always good to have more (evil) options to roleplay.
But we all know that Bioware won´t give us this option because like the whole Solas story Solas won´t destory the world. So i don´t care the Inquisitor isn´t back or isn´t the one who stops Solas. Solas threat is so laughable because Bioware won´t allow him to win so what´s the point in this "hero must stop villian in destroying Thedas / World" plot again if the story wasn´t any other path to offer?
I mean even a nug as a playable hero would stop Solas because he isn´t allowed to destroy the world.
DAO make a good Compromise between good and evil.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 16, 2020 18:38:00 GMT
Un, none of this has anything to do with what I posted. Then let me say it like this. I really don´t care for the Solas story. I hate that we have after Corypheus someone who wants to destroy the world again. Man i am really getting tired of this story. But fortunately there is enough stories which are interessing.
What do you want then? The archedemon wanted to destroy the world as well. Do you want it like DA2? Then i musst say, that i find poorly made. It could be good, but it wasn't. Bioware make often villain which want to destroy the world in some way.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 16, 2020 18:46:58 GMT
I mean even a nug as a playable hero would stop Solas because he isn´t allowed to destroy the world. I don't know about that. What if the opposite is true and we can't stop him? Or we kill him but his ritual carries on regardless and without him around it can't be stopped. However, what results is not complete annihilation. The original 2013 trailer for DAI had Morrigan saying: "Will you stand against the darkness or lead this world to its bitter end?" Now the game changed considerably from that trailer. There was never any chance of us failing to halt Corypheus, except in one or two fail states you had to be stupid to end up with. Even the hole in the sky was different. Yet DG said when he left Bioware that the story was only half told and the torch had been handed to PW to finish it. So what if that great tear across the sky in the 2013 trailer was the Veil coming down? Then the gods are unleashed and the ultimate aim is to deal with them? Which does seem a possibility, what with the caption with the picture of sea monster lady in the book and the promo shot with a two headed dragon. There is also the possibility that Solas is genuinely trying to save the world: From the Blight. It is just that the writers haven't permitted him to say as much. Ultimately though, don't a lot of fantasy tales involve saving the world from the big bad? Whether that big bad is trying to destroy the world or bring it under their control. It is merely the nature of the big bad and how they are stopped that changes. DA2 may have seemed an exception to that except that originally it was meant to have a finale when Hawke was stopping Corypheus. Unfortunately, it would seem it was having to carry over Cory into DAI that has resulted in the feeling of repetition when it comes to Solas because he was always the big bad in DAI, we just didn't know it until the end (half way through the story).
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 16, 2020 18:54:04 GMT
Do you want it like DA2? Then i musst say, that i find poorly made. It could be good, but it wasn't. Yeah absolutely like DA 2. Particularly like Act 2 with the whole Chantry vs Qunari plot where nobody was such good or bad. I made no secret that i hope that the DA 4 majorplot Tevinter vs Qunari is also that good. Maybe the greywarden civil war as well.
I don't know about that. What if the opposite is true and we can't stop him? Or we kill him but his ritual carries on regardless and without him around it can't be stopped. However, what results is not complete annihilation. You can´t made a sequel after this story plot. Of course you can use timetravel but its almost everytime lame. So no like the Archdemon or Corypheus before or from other Bioware series Malak, Saren & Reapers aren´t allowed to win so whats the point in telling in every Bioware game the same story? I am so sick and tired of this story plot.
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