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Post by gethadept on Oct 12, 2017 22:24:48 GMT
It`s currently being sold at $10 on Amazon. I have never seen a game price dropping from $60 to $10 in such short period of time. I personally paid $100 myself because I trusted BW`s work to be a quality one... I definitely won`t be buying any BW/EA games in full price in the future after seeing this. This is not a matter of money... but rather a matter of dignity. I don`t want to make a fool out of myself buying another EA/BW game in the future if their game prices drop as fast as this. www.ea.com/news/coming-soon-to-access-fall-2017There is also this. MEA was a terrible piece of work... and I wonder if this is the worst failure EA has ever experienced.
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Post by Mobius Y on Oct 12, 2017 22:29:13 GMT
Because pricing on Amazon determines the quality of the product in question?
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Post by snowleopard25 on Oct 12, 2017 22:33:10 GMT
How about another EA game, Titanfall? It went down like a stone, didn't last 6 months. (Titanfall 2 might be similar.)
Would you preorder or buy a new EA game after what we have just experienced? Just wait a couple of months for a nice price reduction.
I'm glad I am not a shareholder.
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Post by kaileena_sands on Oct 12, 2017 22:39:59 GMT
To be completely fair, DA 2 was quite shitty, too.
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Post by Whoateallmypasghetti on Oct 12, 2017 23:07:37 GMT
I think I played Titanfall 1 more than andromeda MP
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Post by gethadept on Oct 12, 2017 23:13:41 GMT
Because pricing on Amazon determines the quality of the product in question? In a way. Yes. The fact that one of the biggest retailer is desperately trying to dump this game onto anyone willing to pay $10 after 6 months... do say a lot about quality and popularity of this game.
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Post by ddrguy300 on Oct 12, 2017 23:27:41 GMT
It's difficult to say at times. The overall skeleton of the story is not terrible, there are just terrible moments written by half wits.
And the same applies to the multiplayer. The overall skeleton is pretty damn good. It's the monkeys behind the marionette that make it a hot steaming pile and joke.
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Post by gethadept on Oct 12, 2017 23:31:55 GMT
It's difficult to say at times. The overall skeleton of the story is not terrible, there are just terrible moments written by half wits. And the same applies to the multiplayer. The overall skeleton is pretty damn good. It's the monkeys behind the marionette that make it a hot steaming pile and joke. I would be still playing multiplayer if it wasn`t for patch 1.09 update. Patch 1.09 not only bloated store RNG pull but also took out any sense of achievement & challenge for players who stick to gold games like myself. The single player was terrible because of human character animation. I am sure I don`t have to talk about this in detail anymore. The story line may have had potential if the game received its planned DLC and sequel... but without them I`d rank its plot among one of the worst in video game history.
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Post by DoctorDAM on Oct 13, 2017 0:07:08 GMT
The story line may have had potential if the game received its planned DLC and sequel... but without them I`d rank its plot among one of the worst in video game history. I admit to taking you a bit out of context, but it reminds me of an old joke: Person 1: "The food is terrible here" Person 2: "yeah, and such small portions!" I'm really referring to the people who screamed how bad MEA is ... and scream twice as loud that they didn't follow it up with DLC I finally finished the main storyline. With just 3 settled planets. It took me 6+ months (~90 hrs) to do that. And after 100 hrs of MP, I was long past mentally done with it. I thought I'd then go back and do some of the other planets and loyalty missions (only two during my playthrough). Nope, can't work up the motivation. Instead, I'm replaying ME1. So, no way I'd plunk down money on DLC (and go through more hours of mediocre content) just to find out what happened with the Quarians. Story was mediocre, execution was abysmal. Sadly, I have to say I'm agreeing that the Bioware magic is long gone.
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Post by toast on Oct 13, 2017 0:22:53 GMT
Physical copies of games always drop in price on Amazon (and other vendors) before digital copies do. Notice how the only digital copy is for Xbox, and it still is $40. Most people want the digital copy; so they can start playing NOW. Which leave a lot of excess inventory of physical copies. It's just more prolific, because of the circumstances and timeline of events.
That being said, it isn't a surprise. The surprise should be how quickly they pulled support of the game; that's what really was the nail in the coffin.
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Post by ddrguy300 on Oct 13, 2017 0:24:05 GMT
The story line may have had potential if the game received its planned DLC and sequel... but without them I`d rank its plot among one of the worst in video game history. I admit to taking you a bit out of context, but it reminds me of an old joke: Person 1: "The food is terrible here" Person 2: "yeah, and such small portions!" I'm really referring to the people who screamed how bad MEA is ... and scream twice as loud that they didn't follow it up with DLC I finally finished the main storyline. With just 3 settled planets. It took me 6+ months (~90 hrs) to do that. And after 100 hrs of MP, I was long past mentally done with it. I thought I'd then go back and do some of the other planets and loyalty missions (only two during my playthrough). Nope, can't work up the motivation. Instead, I'm replaying ME1. So, no way I'd plunk down money on DLC (and go through more hours of mediocre content) just to find out what happened with the Quarians. Story was mediocre, execution was abysmal. Sadly, I have to say I'm agreeing that the Bioware magic is long gone. The people who screamed twice when told there was no dlc were completely in their right: They held onto the hope they had for a thing they used to love. Both the single player and multiplayer started and ended on terrible notes, regardless of the hope people still had to see the game smooth out so they could still appreciate the universe they fell in love with. For the single and multiplayer respectively, they started with shit faces and no concept of balance and ended with a public no dlc announcement and ending support following 1.09. The entire development team and supporting studio gave us a product that was full of apathy and ignorance from release, they put a couple of band aids over it, but then spit on the band aids.
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Oct 13, 2017 0:30:53 GMT
EA is pushing games out the same way that sports games are. EA doesn't seem to grip that games (that aren't sports games) can't just be recycled every year with little difference, (or none at all) and expect non-sport gamers to give the same feedback.
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Post by toast on Oct 13, 2017 0:40:52 GMT
EA is pushing games out the same way that sports games are. EA doesn't seem to grip that games (that aren't sports games) can't just be recycled every year with little difference, (or none at all) and expect non-sport gamers to give the same feedback. True. Fifa, Nba Live, Madden; all embody this. COD has this model, and it still generates a ton of revenue. Even when older games stop playing them; a new generation of younger gamers replaces them. Games like MEA, don't draw the same, younger audience that drives up sales for AAA shooters. It makes "tactical" types of shooters hard to market to the ADD generation that we have now. They, (the newer generation), want instant gratification, kill streaks and tiger camo skins for their Desert Eagles...
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Post by gethadept on Oct 13, 2017 1:07:46 GMT
EA is pushing games out the same way that sports games are. EA doesn't seem to grip that games (that aren't sports games) can't just be recycled every year with little difference, (or none at all) and expect non-sport gamers to give the same feedback. UBI did something similar with Assassin`t creed series. The latest ones had bad reviews so they decided to take a break then relaunch the series after reorganizing developer for better quality. EA seems to just kill developers every time something fails instead of figuring out what they really did wrong. I think EA makes too much money.
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Oct 13, 2017 1:24:48 GMT
EA is pushing games out the same way that sports games are. EA doesn't seem to grip that games (that aren't sports games) can't just be recycled every year with little difference, (or none at all) and expect non-sport gamers to give the same feedback. True. Fifa, Nba Live, Madden; all embody this. COD has this model, and it still generates a ton of revenue. Even when older games stop playing them; a new generation of younger gamers replaces them. Games like MEA, don't draw the same, younger audience that drives up sales for AAA shooters. It makes "tactical" types of shooters hard to market to the ADD generation that we have now. They, (the newer generation), want instant gratification, kill streaks and tiger camo skins for their Desert Eagles... CoD, Battlefield as well, actually started this because of EAs sports model. CoD and battlefield have solid core gameplay and deliver what the main fanbase wants for each game. They also change it up with themes (blackops, modern warfare ect) Nothing to do with AAA. Has to do with who the target customers are. I haven't played CoD since Black Ops 1. But I remember people were still playing the CoD that came out 2 years before. Those games are simple and anyone who can use a joystick can play and feel like they accomplish something. MEA was made for the ADD generation, the ADD generation though, won't stand for bullshyt . (bugs glitches hacks, things not working as intended, support) Casual gamers encounter something they don't like, they move on. MEA came out with so much that a casual gamer doesn't like, while almost completely alienating the "core fanbase" that it had only those who don't really care, or can't afford to move on. Then further moves were made that favor casual gamers, further butt fingering some of its core fanbase. I don't know how exactly EA played into all this with bioware, but I know EA, is BAD for anything besides sports games. Even some of the tournament semi-pro heads I used to play Battlefield and CoD with stopped playing the new versions because they just get worse every year. That is EA
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Post by Mobius Y on Oct 13, 2017 2:08:44 GMT
Because pricing on Amazon determines the quality of the product in question? In a way. Yes. So never buy anything cheap off Amazon because it obviously sucks. Got it.
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Post by Fly In The Lotion on Oct 13, 2017 2:12:04 GMT
EA is pushing games out the same way that sports games are. EA doesn't seem to grip that games (that aren't sports games) can't just be recycled every year with little difference, (or none at all) and expect non-sport gamers to give the same feedback. I too like to jump on the "let's hate EA" wagon, but they gave BioWare 5 fucking years and tens of millions of dollars to work with. If you can't put a decent game together with those resources, then I don't know what to tell you; I'm sure Waffle House is hiring around Montreal.
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Post by gethadept on Oct 13, 2017 3:31:43 GMT
So never buy anything cheap off Amazon because it obviously sucks. Got it. I am sure you are smarter than that.
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Post by Scathane on Oct 13, 2017 4:55:49 GMT
EA is pushing games out the same way that sports games are. EA doesn't seem to grip that games (that aren't sports games) can't just be recycled every year with little difference, (or none at all) and expect non-sport gamers to give the same feedback. UBI did something similar with Assassin`t creed series. The latest ones had bad reviews so they decided to take a break then relaunch the series after reorganizing developer for better quality. EA seems to just kill developers every time something fails instead of figuring out what they really did wrong. I think EA makes too much money. Only time will tell how things play out, of course but now that you mention it: I think that if Anthem fails, BioWare just might be added to that list of killed-off studios by EA. I neither mean to say that it think it will fail nor that I hope it does but I do think that this is what's actually at stake for BioWare at this point...
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Post by gethadept on Oct 13, 2017 5:56:54 GMT
UBI did something similar with Assassin`t creed series. The latest ones had bad reviews so they decided to take a break then relaunch the series after reorganizing developer for better quality. EA seems to just kill developers every time something fails instead of figuring out what they really did wrong. I think EA makes too much money. Only time will tell how things play out, of course but now that you mention it: I think that if Anthems fails, BioWare just might be added to that list of killed-off studios by EA. I neither mean to say that it think it will fail nor that I hope it does but I do think that this is what's actually at stake for BioWare at this point... yeah dead space series died after dead space 3 not being as successful as EA hoped after attempting to be a Resident Evil 5 knockoffs. MEA tried to be a huge open world game and failed. Let’s hope Anthem doesn’t turn out to be a failed attempt to be EA’s destiny 2 substitution.
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Oct 13, 2017 7:34:01 GMT
I like Dead Space. EA has killed some awesome games for sure, but as much as I used to love Bioware and how I feel about them now....it's a pretty spectacular fuck up. I don't know if it's their worst failure or not. I do know if it says Bioware on it from this day forward I'm out. I was the same way with DICE after BF3 and how unfinished and garbage it was on release. I loved the Battlefield series. Bad Company 2 is one of my favorite games to this day, but BF3 was the last DICE game I ever bought just like ME: A is my last Bioware one.
I'm hitting a dead end with gaming. Theres not much I want play anymore and what I used to want to play is so watered down and poorly made I'm not interested. Still looking forward to RDR2 and Last of Us 2. I don't know if i'm getting old. The new generation of game developers has no creativity and is garbage at their job, or the publishers have such an iron fist on the industry that this is all we can hope for but "they don't make em like they used to."
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Post by shinobiwan on Oct 13, 2017 12:07:16 GMT
So never buy anything cheap off Amazon because it obviously sucks. Got it. *rolls eyes*
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Post by Terminator Force on Oct 13, 2017 13:57:44 GMT
It's difficult to say at times. The overall skeleton of the story is not terrible, there are just terrible moments written by half wits. The overall skeleton is bad to the bone too.
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Post by Terminator Force on Oct 13, 2017 14:08:56 GMT
The story line may have had potential if the game received its planned DLC and sequel... but without them I`d rank its plot among one of the worst in video game history. I admit to taking you a bit out of context, but it reminds me of an old joke: Person 1: "The food is terrible here" Person 2: "yeah, and such small portions!" I'm really referring to the people who screamed how bad MEA is ... and scream twice as loud that they didn't follow it up with DLC I finally finished the main storyline. With just 3 settled planets. It took me 6+ months (~90 hrs) to do that. And after 100 hrs of MP, I was long past mentally done with it. I thought I'd then go back and do some of the other planets and loyalty missions (only two during my playthrough). Nope, can't work up the motivation. Instead, I'm replaying ME1. So, no way I'd plunk down money on DLC (and go through more hours of mediocre content) just to find out what happened with the Quarians. Story was mediocre, execution was abysmal. Sadly, I have to say I'm agreeing that the Bioware magic is long gone. Same here; 3 planets, game completed, 70 hours, couldn't find motivation for other planets and loyalty missions. Went to play Mass Effect 1 after for the 10th time, explored every planet and was blown away - best game I've played this year. BioWare magic was everywhere, will play another 10 times.
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Post by Terminator Force on Oct 13, 2017 14:16:07 GMT
EA is pushing games out the same way that sports games are. EA doesn't seem to grip that games (that aren't sports games) can't just be recycled every year with little difference, (or none at all) and expect non-sport gamers to give the same feedback. True. Fifa, Nba Live, Madden; all embody this. COD has this model, and it still generates a ton of revenue. Even when older games stop playing them; a new generation of younger gamers replaces them. Games like MEA, don't draw the same, younger audience that drives up sales for AAA shooters. It makes "tactical" types of shooters hard to market to the ADD generation that we have now. They, (the newer generation), want instant gratification, kill streaks and tiger camo skins for their Desert Eagles... So EA is the new hooker off the streets... I'd buy that for a dollar.
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