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Post by Scathane on Oct 13, 2017 14:47:23 GMT
True. Fifa, Nba Live, Madden; all embody this. COD has this model, and it still generates a ton of revenue. Even when older games stop playing them; a new generation of younger gamers replaces them. Games like MEA, don't draw the same, younger audience that drives up sales for AAA shooters. It makes "tactical" types of shooters hard to market to the ADD generation that we have now. They, (the newer generation), want instant gratification, kill streaks and tiger camo skins for their Desert Eagles... So EA is the new hooker off the streets... I'd buy that for a dollar. Don't do it! They call her Anthem Meth An, and she's addicted to all kinds of drugs pugs such as LSD RNG: she'll likely give you the crabs lags...
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Post by shinobiwan on Oct 13, 2017 14:53:25 GMT
Mike Laidlaw just left abruptly without something else lined up. That's pretty weird to me. Obviously speculating, but it suggests some tension between BW and EA and perhaps some troubles regarding the upcoming titles.
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Post by Mobius Y on Oct 13, 2017 15:27:40 GMT
So never buy anything cheap off Amazon because it obviously sucks. Got it. I am sure you are smarter than that. And I’m sure you’re smarter than actually believing your exaggerated claim that Andromeda has the worst single player plot in any game ever (Custer’s Revenge was a thing, after all), or that product quality is not determined by prices listed on an online shopping service (GoldenEye 007 is $18CDN only a third the original retail price, guess that game sucks). But this thread exists.
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 13, 2017 15:44:20 GMT
True. Fifa, Nba Live, Madden; all embody this. COD has this model, and it still generates a ton of revenue. Even when older games stop playing them; a new generation of younger gamers replaces them. Games like MEA, don't draw the same, younger audience that drives up sales for AAA shooters. It makes "tactical" types of shooters hard to market to the ADD generation that we have now. They, (the newer generation), want instant gratification, kill streaks and tiger camo skins for their Desert Eagles... So EA is the new hooker off the streets... I'd buy that for a dollar. Nah, just needs a proper pimp.
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Post by Scathane on Oct 13, 2017 15:48:03 GMT
Mike Laidlaw just left abruptly without something else lined up. That's pretty weird to me. Obviously speculating, but it suggests some tension between BW and EA and perhaps some troubles regarding the upcoming titles. "I have every confidence that the world we've created together is in good hands and I'm excited for the road ahead." #streamingoverwatchtonight Dafuk do these people think what kind of signal these types of messages send to ME fans. It's quite beyond me, frankly....
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Post by Zerfidius on Oct 13, 2017 16:22:25 GMT
So never buy anything cheap off Amazon because it obviously sucks. Got it. Be skeptical of any game that drops from $60 to $15 in six months. ME3 in comparison was still hanging around $30. You don't usually post/sound that bitchy btw. You okay?
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Post by shinobiwan on Oct 13, 2017 16:52:15 GMT
I am sure you are smarter than that. And I’m sure you’re smarter than actually believing your exaggerated claim that Andromeda has the worst single player plot in any game ever (Custer’s Revenge was a thing, after all), or that product quality is not determined by prices listed on an online shopping service (GoldenEye 007 is $18CDN only a third the original retail price, guess that game sucks). But this thread exists. One game is over fifteen years old, the other is 7 months old.
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Post by shinobiwan on Oct 13, 2017 16:55:25 GMT
Mike Laidlaw just left abruptly without something else lined up. That's pretty weird to me. Obviously speculating, but it suggests some tension between BW and EA and perhaps some troubles regarding the upcoming titles. "I have every confidence that the world we've created together is in good hands and I'm excited for the road ahead." #streamingoverwatchtonight Dafuk do these people think what kind of signal these types of messages send to ME fans. It's quite beyond me, frankly.... He's quitting, I doubt he really cares.
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Post by gethadept on Oct 13, 2017 17:43:10 GMT
I am sure you are smarter than that. And I’m sure you’re smarter than actually believing your exaggerated claim that Andromeda has the worst single player plot in any game ever (Custer’s Revenge was a thing, after all), or that product quality is not determined by prices listed on an online shopping service (GoldenEye 007 is $18CDN only a third the original retail price, guess that game sucks). But this thread exists. I didn`t intend to claim anything. It`s just personal opinion and preference when I don`t like games with incomplete plot such as MEA and Rage. I much rather play a game with really stupid story over something that is incomplete. It`s that simple. Product quality is not determined by its price alone, but the quality of video game is often reflected by how fast its price drops. You sound a bit too emotional. I am not sure why. If you are trying to say that a video game`s price dropping from $60 to $10 in less than 7 months is something not unusual.. just go ahead and say that. I don`t think I tried to claim anything or make my opinion into fact.
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Post by Mobius Y on Oct 13, 2017 18:07:28 GMT
And I’m sure you’re smarter than actually believing your exaggerated claim that Andromeda has the worst single player plot in any game ever (Custer’s Revenge was a thing, after all), or that product quality is not determined by prices listed on an online shopping service (GoldenEye 007 is $18CDN only a third the original retail price, guess that game sucks). But this thread exists. I didn`t intend to claim anything. It`s just personal opinion and preference when I don`t like games with incomplete plot such as MEA and Rage. I much rather play a game with really stupid story over something that is incomplete. It`s that simple. Product quality is not determined by its price alone, but the quality of video game is often reflected by how fast its price drops. You sound a bit too emotional. I am not sure why. If you are trying to say that a video game`s price dropping from $60 to $10 in less than 7 months is something not unusual.. just go ahead and say that. I don`t think I tried to claim anything or make my opinion into fact. NP. It actually does happen all the time, obviously not as much with AAA titles (For Honor is still $30-40CDN FFS) but it’s not so uncommon that it doesn’t occur a few times a year.
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Post by Mobius Y on Oct 13, 2017 18:10:21 GMT
So never buy anything cheap off Amazon because it obviously sucks. Got it. Be skeptical of any game that drops from $60 to $15 in six months. ME3 in comparison was still hanging around $30. You don't usually post/sound that bitchy btw. You okay? Lol. I’m great! How are you?
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Post by Zerfidius on Oct 13, 2017 18:40:06 GMT
Be skeptical of any game that drops from $60 to $15 in six months. ME3 in comparison was still hanging around $30. You don't usually post/sound that bitchy btw. You okay? Lol. I’m great! How are you? Living the dream, baby. Warm beers and cold women all day.
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Post by Scathane on Oct 13, 2017 18:45:39 GMT
"I have every confidence that the world we've created together is in good hands and I'm excited for the road ahead." #streamingoverwatchtonight Dafuk do these people think what kind of signal these types of messages send to ME fans. It's quite beyond me, frankly.... He's quitting, I doubt he really cares. Sure, I get that. What I'm always a bit baffled about, is how it seems people in the video game industry can collude between games and patrons - and especially venting such on social media - without getting into any contractual anti-competition issues...
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Post by shinobiwan on Oct 13, 2017 18:59:29 GMT
He's quitting, I doubt he really cares. Sure, I get that. What I'm always a bit baffled about, is how it seems people in the video game industry can collude between games and patrons - and especially venting such on social media - without getting into any contractual anti-competition issues... Why would that be anticompetitive? (Or rather, violate a noncompete agreement, which is what I think you really mean - anticompetitive refers to antitrust issues) Noncompetes bar people from working for competitors, not from saying nice things about them.
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Post by Spectr61 on Oct 13, 2017 19:58:27 GMT
Gaider gone. Laidlaw gone.
Is "super" Mac still hanging on?
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Post by Scathane on Oct 13, 2017 20:46:05 GMT
Sure, I get that. What I'm always a bit baffled about, is how it seems people in the video game industry can collude between games and patrons - and especially venting such on social media - without getting into any contractual anti-competition issues... Why would that be anticompetitive? (Or rather, violate a noncompete agreement, which is what I think you really mean - anticompetitive refers to antitrust issues) Noncompetes bar people from working for competitors, not from saying nice things about them. Yup, I mean noncompete agreement, thx. Even then, it might not fully encompass what I mean. Of course, noncompete is about not/working for the competition. Yet, I think I could drum up quite a number of contractual clauses which prohibit an (ex-) employee from more than just working for competitors. I'm quite sure there have been cases to this extent in Europe (I'll actually see if I can find some). On the other hand, I also realise that no court would convict - say - an ex-Mercedes manager for tweeting about a drive in a BMW after he got fired. Then again, Mercedes vs. BMW just might turn out to be the worst example for that specific point...
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Post by Mobius Y on Oct 13, 2017 21:15:35 GMT
Lol. I’m great! How are you? Living the dream, baby. Warm beers and cold women all day. Well if you ever wanna chamge that just let me know.
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Post by shinobiwan on Oct 14, 2017 0:56:14 GMT
Why would that be anticompetitive? (Or rather, violate a noncompete agreement, which is what I think you really mean - anticompetitive refers to antitrust issues) Noncompetes bar people from working for competitors, not from saying nice things about them. Yup, I mean noncompete agreement, thx. Even then, it might not fully encompass what I mean. Of course, noncompete is about not/working for the competition. Yet, I think I could drum up quite a number of contractual clauses which prohibit an (ex-) employee from more than just working for competitors. I'm quite sure there have been cases to this extent in Europe (I'll actually see if I can find some). On the other hand, I also realise that no court would convict - say - an ex-Mercedes manager for tweeting about a drive in a BMW after he got fired. Then again, Mercedes vs. BMW just might turn out to be the worst example for that specific point... Can't really speak to European law, but Canadian law is more like American law, and the relevant contracts are probably governed by New York law anyway. Employment contracts sometimes contain nondisparagment clauses, but that wouldn't typically apply to saying good things about a competitor. Idk how that would really work anyway, as you sometimes need to say nice things about competitors for the benefit of the company you work for. Breach of contract isn't typically a criminal offense that could lead to a conviction.
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Post by Scathane on Oct 14, 2017 8:48:16 GMT
Yup, I mean noncompete agreement, thx. Even then, it might not fully encompass what I mean. Of course, noncompete is about not/working for the competition. Yet, I think I could drum up quite a number of contractual clauses which prohibit an (ex-) employee from more than just working for competitors. I'm quite sure there have been cases to this extent in Europe (I'll actually see if I can find some). On the other hand, I also realise that no court would convict - say - an ex-Mercedes manager for tweeting about a drive in a BMW after he got fired. Then again, Mercedes vs. BMW just might turn out to be the worst example for that specific point... Can't really speak to European law, but Canadian law is more like American law, and the relevant contracts are probably governed by New York law anyway. Employment contracts sometimes contain nondisparagment clauses, but that wouldn't typically apply to saying good things about a competitor. Idk how that would really work anyway, as you sometimes need to say nice things about competitors for the benefit of the company you work for. Breach of contract isn't typically a criminal offense that could lead to a conviction. Thx again for the lingo. Anyway, I found a case that is sort of in line with what I mean. Some years ago, a dancing teacher quit with his employer and started for himself. He had a noncompete clause for the town in question and a 'non-sollicitation' clause (not sure on the term) which stated he could not get into contact with ex-pupils or the former dancing school's business relation. When the former employee found out the teacher had been chatting with the aforementioned parties on social media, he took the case to court, based the non-sollicitation clause. In this case the former employer lost, btw: the judge ruled that the former employee would only have been in violation of his non-sollicitation clause, had he explicitly bantered his former employer or asked ex-pupils to enlist with him in those chats and there wasn't any proof for that. So, yeah, perhaps I'm thinking a bit too strict with regard to these clauses. On the other hand, I had expected such clauses to be much more strict with large video game companies...
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 14, 2017 11:27:19 GMT
Can't really speak to European law, but Canadian law is more like American law, and the relevant contracts are probably governed by New York law anyway. Employment contracts sometimes contain nondisparagment clauses, but that wouldn't typically apply to saying good things about a competitor. Idk how that would really work anyway, as you sometimes need to say nice things about competitors for the benefit of the company you work for. Breach of contract isn't typically a criminal offense that could lead to a conviction. Thx again for the lingo. Anyway, I found a case that is sort of in line with what I mean. Some years ago, a dancing teacher quit with his employer and started for himself. He had a noncompete clause for the town in question and a 'non-sollicitation' clause (not sure on the term) which stated he could not get into contact with ex-pupils or the former dancing school's business relation. When the former employee found out the teacher had been chatting with the aforementioned parties on social media, he took the case to court, based the non-sollicitation clause. In this case the former employer lost, btw: the judge ruled that the former employee would only have been in violation of his non-sollicitation clause, had he explicitly bantered his former employer or asked ex-pupils to enlist with him in those chats and there wasn't any proof for that. So, yeah, perhaps I'm thinking a bit too strict with regard to these clauses. On the other hand, I had expected such clauses to be much more strict with large video game companies... A non-compete clause can never be a general occupational ban. That is: without compensating for such a thing. You want to take out potential competition, you gotta buy them out, but you can never enforce a clause to earn someone's livelihood that simply. That's German reasoning. Differences between "continental" European and anglo-american law is most evident in the former sticking more to the codex and the latter employing a more case-based legal practice.
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Post by Ronik82 on Oct 14, 2017 11:40:17 GMT
I like Dead Space. EA has killed some awesome games for sure, but as much as I used to love Bioware and how I feel about them now....it's a pretty spectacular fuck up. I don't know if it's their worst failure or not. I do know if it says Bioware on it from this day forward I'm out. I was the same way with DICE after BF3 and how unfinished and garbage it was on release. I loved the Battlefield series. Bad Company 2 is one of my favorite games to this day, but BF3 was the last DICE game I ever bought just like ME: A is my last Bioware one. I'm hitting a dead end with gaming. Theres not much I want play anymore and what I used to want to play is so watered down and poorly made I'm not interested. Still looking forward to RDR2 and Last of Us 2. I don't know if i'm getting old. The new generation of game developers has no creativity and is garbage at their job, or the publishers have such an iron fist on the industry that this is all we can hope for but "they don't make em like they used to." Luckily there are still older game classics without online requirements we can play again and again. At least if you're on PC - keeping a shitload of old-generation consoles and their games in the attic is more annoying I suppose.
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Post by shinobiwan on Oct 14, 2017 12:13:45 GMT
Can't really speak to European law, but Canadian law is more like American law, and the relevant contracts are probably governed by New York law anyway. Employment contracts sometimes contain nondisparagment clauses, but that wouldn't typically apply to saying good things about a competitor. Idk how that would really work anyway, as you sometimes need to say nice things about competitors for the benefit of the company you work for. Breach of contract isn't typically a criminal offense that could lead to a conviction. Thx again for the lingo. Anyway, I found a case that is sort of in line with what I mean. Some years ago, a dancing teacher quit with his employer and started for himself. He had a noncompete clause for the town in question and a 'non-sollicitation' clause (not sure on the term) which stated he could not get into contact with ex-pupils or the former dancing school's business relation. When the former employee found out the teacher had been chatting with the aforementioned parties on social media, he took the case to court, based the non-sollicitation clause. In this case the former employer lost, btw: the judge ruled that the former employee would only have been in violation of his non-sollicitation clause, had he explicitly bantered his former employer or asked ex-pupils to enlist with him in those chats and there wasn't any proof for that. So, yeah, perhaps I'm thinking a bit too strict with regard to these clauses. On the other hand, I had expected such clauses to be much more strict with large video game companies... Ok, ya. Nonsolicitation provisions show up in employment agreements sometimes when a company has a discrete client base - consultants etc. and I guess dance teachers. It wouldn't really apply to a company that develops products that are sold at retail.
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Post by shinobiwan on Oct 14, 2017 12:17:14 GMT
Thx again for the lingo. Anyway, I found a case that is sort of in line with what I mean. Some years ago, a dancing teacher quit with his employer and started for himself. He had a noncompete clause for the town in question and a 'non-sollicitation' clause (not sure on the term) which stated he could not get into contact with ex-pupils or the former dancing school's business relation. When the former employee found out the teacher had been chatting with the aforementioned parties on social media, he took the case to court, based the non-sollicitation clause. In this case the former employer lost, btw: the judge ruled that the former employee would only have been in violation of his non-sollicitation clause, had he explicitly bantered his former employer or asked ex-pupils to enlist with him in those chats and there wasn't any proof for that. So, yeah, perhaps I'm thinking a bit too strict with regard to these clauses. On the other hand, I had expected such clauses to be much more strict with large video game companies... A non-compete clause can never be a general occupational ban. That is: without compensating for such a thing. You want to take out potential competition, you gotta buy them out, but you can never enforce a clause to earn someone's livelihood that simply. That's German reasoning. Differences between "continental" European and anglo-american law is most evident in the former sticking more to the codex and the latter employing a more case-based legal practice. Pretty much the same in the United States. People have a constitutional right to earn a livelihood, so noncompetes have to be very, very limited in geographic and temporal scope to be enforceable.
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Post by Scathane on Oct 14, 2017 14:53:21 GMT
A non-compete clause can never be a general occupational ban. That is: without compensating for such a thing. You want to take out potential competition, you gotta buy them out, but you can never enforce a clause to earn someone's livelihood that simply. That's German reasoning. Differences between "continental" European and anglo-american law is most evident in the former sticking more to the codex and the latter employing a more case-based legal practice. Pretty much the same in the United States. People have a constitutional right to earn a livelihood, so noncompetes have to be very, very limited in geographic and temporal scope to be enforceable. Yeah, it's the same here. In fact, I have seen actual non-compete clauses incorporating that, providing a basic income for the duration of the clause (in this case, I believe it was EUR 2,500 a month for a period of 12 months) to ensure ex-employees really can adhere to their clause. So, really, things are roughly the same in the Low Lands from what I hear from you guys. It must have been my sense for drama that got the better of me. Back on-topic: Mike Laidlaw leaving makes three (Billy Buskell and the CEO) now since Andromeda hit the stores? I would guess these departures had something to do with Andromeda's lack of success...
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Post by shinobiwan on Oct 14, 2017 16:41:01 GMT
Pretty much the same in the United States. People have a constitutional right to earn a livelihood, so noncompetes have to be very, very limited in geographic and temporal scope to be enforceable. Yeah, it's the same here. In fact, I have seen actual non-compete clauses incorporating that, providing a basic income for the duration of the clause (in this case, I believe it was EUR 2,500 a month for a period of 12 months) to ensure ex-employees really can adhere to their clause. So, really, things are roughly the same in the Low Lands from what I hear from you guys. It must have been my sense for drama that got the better of me. Back on-topic: Mike Laidlaw leaving makes three (Billy Buskell and the CEO) now since Andromeda hit the stores? I would guess these departures had something to do with Andromeda's lack of success... Mike I don't think had much to do with MEA. He prolly had differences of opinion with someone important or burnt out or something. Billy and Aaron were part of MEA, and yeah, they were likely told to leave.
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