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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 19:26:21 GMT
Shepard was the star of 3 games. He/she is either dead or dying at the end of ME3. Its time to let go and move on. I swear people want more of the same shit crammed down their throats, but then turn around and bitch about more of the same shit crammed down their throats. The definition of insanity man, look it up. That being said, I will take more Mass Effect in any form I can get it. Beggars can't be choosers after all.
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Post by Sondergaard on Oct 19, 2017 19:35:55 GMT
Shepard was the star of 3 games. He/she is either dead or dying at the end of ME3. Its time to let go and move on. I swear people want more of the same shit crammed down their throats, but then turn around and bitch about more of the same shit crammed down their throats. The definition of insanity man, look it up. Definition of insanity- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. They can make two great games and one pretty good game as often as they like as far as I'm concerned. I'll take the same result as I've had before (a general feeling of satisfaction) over Andromeda.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 19:38:41 GMT
Shepard was the star of 3 games. He/she is either dead or dying at the end of ME3. Its time to let go and move on. I swear people want more of the same shit crammed down their throats, but then turn around and bitch about more of the same shit crammed down their throats. The definition of insanity man, look it up. Definition of insanity- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. They can make two great games and one pretty good game as often as they like as far as I'm concerned. I'll take the same result as I've had before (a general feeling of satisfaction) over Andromeda. Only ME game that left me feeling disappointed was the first one (and the ending of the 3rd). Andromeda? Far from disappointed.
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Post by Sondergaard on Oct 19, 2017 19:41:27 GMT
Definition of insanity- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. They can make two great games and one pretty good game as often as they like as far as I'm concerned. I'll take the same result as I've had before (a general feeling of satisfaction) over Andromeda. Only ME game that left me feeling disappointed was the first one (and the ending of the 3rd). Andromeda? Far from disappointed. You were disappointed with ME1? That explains a lot.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 19, 2017 19:44:57 GMT
Po-tay-to, po-tah-to. One's wrong though. Shepard is a bloke.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 19:45:34 GMT
Only ME game that left me feeling disappointed was the first one (and the ending of the 3rd). Andromeda? Far from disappointed. You were disappointed with ME1? That explains a lot. Terrible controls, terrible mechanics, bad UI design, bland characters, a trope-ridden narrative, continuously rehashed themes? (although all the ME games are guilty of the last 2.) The only good it did was set up for the next two games and launch the universe. But then again, If you ain't much of a gamer and don't notice when a game handles like dogshit, I guess it wouldn't matter then!
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Post by Sondergaard on Oct 19, 2017 19:56:40 GMT
You were disappointed with ME1? That explains a lot. Terrible controls, terrible mechanics, bad UI design, bland characters, a trope-ridden narrative, continuously rehashed themes? (although all the ME games are guilty of the last 2.) The only good it did was set up for the next two games and launch the universe. But then again, If you ain't much of a gamer and don't notice when a game handles like dogshit, I guess it wouldn't matter then! Ah, my apologies. I didn't realise I was contradicting a 'true gamer'. I will take my casual arse out of here and continue to enjoy ME1 in blissful ignorance.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 19:58:54 GMT
Terrible controls, terrible mechanics, bad UI design, bland characters, a trope-ridden narrative, continuously rehashed themes? (although all the ME games are guilty of the last 2.) The only good it did was set up for the next two games and launch the universe. But then again, If you ain't much of a gamer and don't notice when a game handles like dogshit, I guess it wouldn't matter then! Ah, my apologies. I didn't realise I was contradicting a 'true gamer'. I will take my casual arse out of here and continue to enjoy ME1 in blissful ignorance. If your own subjective definition of "enjoyment" for you involves pain, then you may want to look into BDSM. Seems like it would be riiight up your alley.
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 19, 2017 22:08:15 GMT
Po-tay-to, po-tah-to. One's wrong though. Shepard is a bloke. Since when?
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 19, 2017 22:16:46 GMT
One's wrong though. Shepard is a bloke. Since when? Since always.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 19, 2017 23:10:43 GMT
No, Commander Shepard has been able to be a man or a woman since always. So really if we are going to get picky with pronouns, the objectively correct one is 'they'.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 19, 2017 23:30:12 GMT
No, Commander Shepard has been able to be a man or a woman since always. So really if we are going to get picky with pronouns, the objectively correct one is 'they'. Bullshit. Shepard is a man. It's canon.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 19, 2017 23:33:48 GMT
No, Commander Shepard has been able to be a man or a woman since always. So really if we are going to get picky with pronouns, the objectively correct one is 'they'. Bullshit. Shepard is a man. It's canon. There is no canon. Bioware has stated that one is not more canon than the other.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 19, 2017 23:36:52 GMT
Bullshit. Shepard is a man. It's canon. There is no canon. Bioware has stated that one is not more canon than the other. It's totally canon. It's on the cover art.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 19, 2017 23:37:22 GMT
There is no canon. Bioware has stated that one is not more canon than the other. It's totally canon. It's on the cover art. There is also cover art of Shepard as a woman.
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 19, 2017 23:40:26 GMT
It's totally canon. It's on the cover art. There is also cover art of Shepard as a woman. Don't forget the FemShep version of the Take Earth Back ad.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 19, 2017 23:42:09 GMT
There is also cover art of Shepard as a woman. Don't forget the FemShep version of the Take Earth Back ad. As well as another Mass Effect 3 trailer that involved her. And the Mass Effect: Andromeda trailer where Shepard is giving a speech and they only use female Shepard.
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 19, 2017 23:46:54 GMT
Don't forget the FemShep version of the Take Earth Back ad. As well as another Mass Effect 3 trailer that involved her. And the Mass Effect: Andromeda trailer where Shepard is giving a speech and they only use female Shepard. I forgot about the Andromeda ad. The fact that they never made another version pretty much confirms my theory that the alternate Shepard was eaten by a thresher maw.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 19, 2017 23:48:57 GMT
It's totally canon. It's on the cover art. There is also cover art of Shepard as a woman. But there are more canon covers with male Shepard.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 19, 2017 23:52:27 GMT
There is also cover art of Shepard as a woman. But there are more canon covers with male Shepard. Game covers aren't canon.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 19, 2017 23:55:18 GMT
But there are more canon covers with male Shepard. Game covers aren't canon. I know. It's why I know Femshep can't be canon.
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 19, 2017 23:57:07 GMT
Shepard was the star of 3 games. He/she is either dead or dying at the end of ME3. Its time to let go and move on. I swear people want more of the same shit crammed down their throats, but then turn around and bitch about more of the same shit crammed down their throats. The definition of insanity man, look it up. Definition of insanity- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. They can make two great games and one pretty good game as often as they like as far as I'm concerned. I'll take the same result as I've had before (a general feeling of satisfaction) over Andromeda. But in terms of the subject of this thread, what's the difference in the end? Shepard in and of itself is a meaningless character if we're talking about what would make a future game good or not. Really, it's only about whether or not tacking Shepard onto another game is more likely to see bigger sales on release.
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Post by griffith82 on Oct 20, 2017 0:22:07 GMT
Isn't that basically the Control ending? You're totally stripping away the player agency of Shepard... forcibly turning him/her to the dark side regardless of what the player did in the Trilogy... I can hear the uproar now. People don't want Shepard to return with a personality other than whatever one they created for him/her in the first three games. When they ask for the return of Shepard, they are asking for the return of THEIR Shepard and in a manner where they continue to control how he/she reacts and what he/she says and does. If they throw Shepard in and he/she is not the PC, it can really be only a cameo that doesn't really give much indication of either renegade or the paragon personality traits... or your going to completely alienate those who had the opposite Shepard from what is presented. Or IT could indeed be correct and Shepard beats their indoctrination attempt, and we begin anew with an actual war against the reapers, a war that we can win maybe? Ummm
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 20, 2017 5:17:13 GMT
Game covers aren't canon. I know. It's why I know Femshep can't be canon. Well, "there's no canon" is a reasonable position. And if Bio ever did go with a CanonShep, I suppose they might as well default to male.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 20, 2017 5:56:51 GMT
Game covers aren't canon. I know. It's why I know Femshep can't be canon. So you agree that your whole argument about male Shepard being canon because of things like game covers is busted?
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