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Post by Superhik on Oct 21, 2017 18:41:29 GMT
First half was good, but man did they go off the rails later. Keep this representation of this or that out of bloody entertainment. Or least do it like Jade Empire. And besides isn't this guy, and Indian or something, what's he's bloody wailing on about? ( Sort of was I of nearly same color once, though granted I did a 12 hours straight shift in sun, car races security, keeping idiots from throwing themselves on the tracks)
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Post by General Mahad on Oct 21, 2017 18:49:15 GMT
First half was good, but man did they go off the rails later. Keep this representation of this or that out of bloody entertainment. Or least do it like Jade Empire. And besides isn't this guy, and Indian or something, what's he's bloody wailing on about? ( Sort of was I of nearly same color once, though granted I did a 12 hours straight shift in sun, car races security, keeping idiots from throwing themselves on the tracks) I’m willing to bet the reason why people told him to get bent is because he wouldn’t shut up about racial politics. Also his shit posting on twitter didn’t help to generate good PR for the game.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Oct 21, 2017 19:02:46 GMT
Man the second half is a giant pity party. If I was a hiring dev or publisher, I wouldn't touch these people with a ten foot pole. No wonder no one was listening to him.
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Post by auu on Oct 21, 2017 19:16:45 GMT
If he was any other white employee tweeting the same shit, a company would drop him in that instant. I think I'll just ignore whatever he says. He's not relevant.
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Post by bossattack on Oct 21, 2017 19:24:02 GMT
CDPR would not have been afraid to tackle the issue.... Hence why Witcher III is a masterpiece, not bad for a bunch of white dudes that Heir despises. You mean that Polish game adapting a set of Polish novels that draw HEAVILY from Polish folklore developed by a bunch of Polish people? It's almost like their experiences living in Poland helped shape that game and made it unique...
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Oct 21, 2017 19:26:10 GMT
ME:A was memed to death? lol Now, colonialism could have been a good topic/background to the story in ME:A, kinda like the racism from the humans in The witcher. PS: $15000 IN LOOTBOXES, What the shit? didn't this guy know about the console and -givecredits XXXX I'm fairly certain the man who dropped that money is the same man who posted on the old BSN about how he wasn't cheating he actually paid for the guns. He basically said he had a compulsion to get all the guns max rank (at that time there was no ultra rare crates so N7 tier was hard). Basically man had some form of OCD with (he said he spent over a grand) lots of cash and was unjustly/accidentally preyed upon by loot box gambling. He did how ever enjoy what he got out of it, it was just hard cuz everyone thought he was hacking/cheating. Could be a different person but I doubt it. Also at the time if you used a third party program to get credits you would get banned from origin or the respective console live service. Now a days as long as you hack under a mill of credits you're fine. I hope that he doesn't live in Las Vegas. Seems like he suffers being "playful" (Ludopata in spanish). As for "hacking", one can use the game console and the commands that comes with it (i hope that no one from EAware is checking creds account in the N7HQ anymore)
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Post by anarchy65 on Oct 21, 2017 19:27:14 GMT
Hence why Witcher III is a masterpiece, not bad for a bunch of white dudes that Heir despises. You mean that Polish game adapting a set of Polish novels that draw HEAVILY from Polish folklore developed by a bunch of Polish people? It's almost like their experiences living in Poland helped shape that game and made it unique... Ouch.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Oct 21, 2017 19:58:13 GMT
First half actually had some really descent insight into the gaming industry but the second half was just more identity politics.
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Post by General Mahad on Oct 21, 2017 20:19:47 GMT
Hence why Witcher III is a masterpiece, not bad for a bunch of white dudes that Heir despises. You mean that Polish game adapting a set of Polish novels that draw HEAVILY from Polish folklore developed by a bunch of Polish people? It's almost like their experiences living in Poland helped shape that game and made it unique... “Hey guys, I found out 21st century Poland is the same as Fantasy 14th century Polaruslitha.” Them being Polish has little to do with them making a damn good game, too bad mediocrity is such a foreign concept to BioDrones.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 21, 2017 20:26:54 GMT
You mean that Polish game adapting a set of Polish novels that draw HEAVILY from Polish folklore developed by a bunch of Polish people? It's almost like their experiences living in Poland helped shape that game and made it unique... “Hey guys, I found out 21st century Poland is the same as Fantasy 14th century Polaruslitha.” Them being Polish has little to do with them making a damn good game, too bad mediocrity is such a foreign concept to BioDrones. if mediocrity is a foreign concept to bio drones does that mean bio drones only play good games?
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Post by rahavan on Oct 21, 2017 20:36:48 GMT
I'm fairly certain the man who dropped that money is the same man who posted on the old BSN about how he wasn't cheating he actually paid for the guns. He basically said he had a compulsion to get all the guns max rank (at that time there was no ultra rare crates so N7 tier was hard). Basically man had some form of OCD with (he said he spent over a grand) lots of cash and was unjustly/accidentally preyed upon by loot box gambling. He did how ever enjoy what he got out of it, it was just hard cuz everyone thought he was hacking/cheating. Could be a different person but I doubt it. Also at the time if you used a third party program to get credits you would get banned from origin or the respective console live service. Now a days as long as you hack under a mill of credits you're fine. I hope that he doesn't live in Las Vegas. Seems like he suffers being "playful" (Ludopata in spanish). As for "hacking", one can use the game console and the commands that comes with it (i hope that no one from EAware is checking creds account in the N7HQ anymore) I can safely say as long as your credits are always under 1mil you're fine. I used cheat engine and I haven't played in months but I never got banned and no one really gave a shit about me.
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Post by General Mahad on Oct 21, 2017 20:41:30 GMT
“Hey guys, I found out 21st century Poland is the same as Fantasy 14th century Polaruslitha.” Them being Polish has little to do with them making a damn good game, too bad mediocrity is such a foreign concept to BioDrones. if mediocrity is a foreign concept to bio drones does that mean bio drones only play good games? Lol, yes and no.
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Post by linksocarina on Oct 21, 2017 21:01:58 GMT
You mean that Polish game adapting a set of Polish novels that draw HEAVILY from Polish folklore developed by a bunch of Polish people? It's almost like their experiences living in Poland helped shape that game and made it unique... “Hey guys, I found out 21st century Poland is the same as Fantasy 14th century Polaruslitha.” Them being Polish has little to do with them making a damn good game, too bad mediocrity is such a foreign concept to BioDrones. You say that as if the Witcher games were never mediocre either. Remember, it took three games to make a good one from that team out of the gate.
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Post by majesticjazz on Oct 21, 2017 21:24:12 GMT
So you are saying that a white male will know more than a black male about living in a society where your race is a minority and all of the conflicts that come with it? A black kid living in Malibu vs a white male living in Gary, Indiana? Jeez whiz Professor, what a choice. Well good for you because you’re not a writer, developer, or creator of any worth while intellectual property. In fact, don’t even talk or think about it since you’ll never know. So are you trying to imply that just because a black person grew up in a "white" community that he cannot experience similar racism as a black kid living in the ghetto? Please read en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Louis_Gates_arrest_controversyEven a Harvard professor living in a white community could not escape the racism against his skin color. Are you trying to imply that economic conditions will dictate how much racism a person personally experiences?
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Post by linksocarina on Oct 21, 2017 21:29:29 GMT
Yeah it’s called research, a unique concept I know, and having a team that was created around merit, another foreign concept, not diversity hires that are treated as experts on an area just because of their physical attributes and not their field of knowledge. So you are saying that a white male will know more than a black male about living in a society where your race is a minority and all of the conflicts that come with it? As long as that white person does research? Im sorry, but no matter how much research I do, I will NEVER know what it is like to be LGBT or a woman and all the discrimination that comes with being in those groups cause I am a heterosexual male. True, but intersectional studies is also somewhat of a red herring. Dialogue between people does wonders to change things in that. From experience I can say that much at least.
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So you are saying that a white male will know more than a black male about living in a society where your race is a minority and all of the conflicts that come with it? As long as that white person does research? Im sorry, but no matter how much research I do, I will NEVER know what it is like to be LGBT or a woman and all the discrimination that comes with being in those groups cause I am a heterosexual male. True, but intersectional studies is also somewhat of a red herring. Dialogue between people does wonders to change things in that. From experience I can say that much at least. Im sorry, but a white person can study racism against black people but that is not the same as living it and personally experiencing it. One can study all they want about whats it like to br in combat and interview 1000s of war veterans. But that will never be the same as actually being in combat and having bullets fly over your head, seeing your friends die, being away from home and not knowing if you'll live to see the next day. There are so many intangible factors that can only be known by living it, not studying it.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 21, 2017 22:01:09 GMT
The dude that spent $15k on ME3MP should be drawn and quartered.
Edit: the Whales of the world are the ones killing our fucking hobby. This asshat had to have had buku dinero laying around, but I know a couple kids got in trouble with parents over MP microtransactions...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 22:22:50 GMT
“Hey guys, I found out 21st century Poland is the same as Fantasy 14th century Polaruslitha.” Them being Polish has little to do with them making a damn good game, too bad mediocrity is such a foreign concept to BioDrones. You say that as if the Witcher games were never mediocre either. Remember, it took three games to make a good one from that team out of the gate. Yet when you compare The Witcher series vs Dragon Age or the Mass Effect series you can easily find how The Witcher series out sold either pretty easily. Even Mass Effect with 4 games included now still didn"t out sell the 3 games for TW. Pretty damn sad right? All this data is easy to find but if you need me to post it for proof I'll gather it all.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Oct 21, 2017 22:31:34 GMT
I hope that he doesn't live in Las Vegas. Seems like he suffers being "playful" (Ludopata in spanish). As for "hacking", one can use the game console and the commands that comes with it (i hope that no one from EAware is checking creds account in the N7HQ anymore) I can safely say as long as your credits are always under 1mil you're fine. I used cheat engine and I haven't played in months but I never got banned and no one really gave a shit about me. You know that some Bio devs usually lurks over here?
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Post by linksocarina on Oct 21, 2017 22:47:53 GMT
True, but intersectional studies is also somewhat of a red herring. Dialogue between people does wonders to change things in that. From experience I can say that much at least. Im sorry, but a white person can study racism against black people but that is not the same as living it and personally experiencing it. One can study all they want about whats it like to br in combat and interview 1000s of war veterans. But that will never be the same as actually being in combat and having bullets fly over your head, seeing your friends die, being away from home and not knowing if you'll live to see the next day. There are so many intangible factors that can only be known by living it, not studying it. White people live through racism too though, which is why the issues of intersectionality sometimes baffle me because tons of forms of tribalism exist out there that permiate all over the place. Ever been called a fat wop before for example? I'm Italian and it kind of hurts but you get over it, but the casual form of how folks sometimes use slurs or things like that is often universal. As I said, from experience that is something that you learn around the world. I may not know how that fully feels, I may have to research such heartache, but it doesn't stop me from showing empathy to such things to better understand why that is.
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Post by linksocarina on Oct 21, 2017 22:55:03 GMT
You say that as if the Witcher games were never mediocre either. Remember, it took three games to make a good one from that team out of the gate. Yet when you compare The Witcher series vs Dragon Age or the Mass Effect series you can easily find how The Witcher series out sold either pretty easily. Even Mass Effect with 4 games included now still didn"t out sell the 3 games for TW. Pretty damn sad right? All this data is easy to find but if you need me to post it for proof I'll gather it all. Sex does sell...as do deals on gog and the front door promotions. Of course that's just a minor part of it, but perception helps more than quality sometimes. Enough people are bitter at Bioware for "selling out" so to speak. CDPR were basically in the right place at the right time to fI'll that fix. But then again sales are kinda moot vs successful titles. After all, that logic can be a slippery slope to saying call of duty then is one of the best franchises ever made, where for me I find it a bit overrated. In the end, I'd rather play the dragon age games because pound for pound, they are a more solid experience per game for me. As I said, only one of the Witcher games really stands out at being that way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 22:57:11 GMT
True, but intersectional studies is also somewhat of a red herring. Dialogue between people does wonders to change things in that. From experience I can say that much at least. Im sorry, but a white person can study racism against black people but that is not the same as living it and personally experiencing it. One can study all they want about whats it like to br in combat and interview 1000s of war veterans. But that will never be the same as actually being in combat and having bullets fly over your head, seeing your friends die, being away from home and not knowing if you'll live to see the next day. There are so many intangible factors that can only be known by living it, not studying it. Growing up I lived near a predominantly black neighborhood and on many occasions was called honky, cracka and white boy. I was jumped 3 times by 4 or more brotha's. Does that count as living racism? The crazy part about it was that I was really cool with half their cousins and friends but it didn't really matter. Hate comes from many colors...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 23:00:12 GMT
Yet when you compare The Witcher series vs Dragon Age or the Mass Effect series you can easily find how The Witcher series out sold either pretty easily. Even Mass Effect with 4 games included now still didn"t out sell the 3 games for TW. Pretty damn sad right? All this data is easy to find but if you need me to post it for proof I'll gather it all. Sex does sell...as do deals on gog and the front door promotions. Of course that's just a minor part of it, but perception helps more than quality sometimes. Enough people are bitter at Bioware for "selling out" so to speak. CDPR were basically in the right place at the right time to fI'll that fix. But then again sales are kinda moot vs successful titles. After all, that logic can be a slippery slope to saying call of duty then is one of the best franchises ever made, where for me I find it a bit overrated. In the end, I'd rather play the dragon age games because pound for pound, they are a more solid experience per game for me. As I said, only one of the Witcher games really stands out at being that way. That's all fine. I'm just disputing your notion of the first 2 Witcher games as some how being bad. Personally I find Dragon Age: Origins as being better than the entire lot...IMO of course.
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Post by linksocarina on Oct 21, 2017 23:12:42 GMT
Sex does sell...as do deals on gog and the front door promotions. Of course that's just a minor part of it, but perception helps more than quality sometimes. Enough people are bitter at Bioware for "selling out" so to speak. CDPR were basically in the right place at the right time to fI'll that fix. But then again sales are kinda moot vs successful titles. After all, that logic can be a slippery slope to saying call of duty then is one of the best franchises ever made, where for me I find it a bit overrated. In the end, I'd rather play the dragon age games because pound for pound, they are a more solid experience per game for me. As I said, only one of the Witcher games really stands out at being that way. That's all fine. I'm just disputing your notion of the first 2 Witcher games as some how being bad. Personally I find Dragon Age: Origins as being better than the entire lot...IMO of course. First game is barely playable, i once named it one of the worst games of the past decade a while back. Poor controls are a primary reason but I also hated the character of geralt and the overall plot. It was try hard in its dialogue, dark and gritty for the sake of it vs having a purpose. Second game had some good stuff and toned down the try hardness I described above, but what bothered me was ironically the same complaints a game liked dragon age 2 had by some, the linear structure and lack of narrative choice. I was especially dissapointed by the games ending in that regard, and while I have problems with dragon age 2s ending I got closure from it unlike the Witcher 2. Both games also have shit combat, but at least geralt was a bit more relatable then. I do have a lot of issue with witcher 3, but overall it was a good experience that's worth a lot of the praise. Being a benchmark of excellence...thats a bit too far for me ultinately, but I am a pretty harsh grader sometimes. Only mass effect 2 i would even put in my top ten individual games of all time from bioware, and it's one of only two "modern" games, that and fallout new vegas, that are on that list. Eta: I should say one game I did play this year may join that list, and it's breath of the wild but i'll give it time to digest so to speak.
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Post by anarchy65 on Oct 21, 2017 23:24:54 GMT
Im sorry, but a white person can study racism against black people but that is not the same as living it and personally experiencing it. One can study all they want about whats it like to br in combat and interview 1000s of war veterans. But that will never be the same as actually being in combat and having bullets fly over your head, seeing your friends die, being away from home and not knowing if you'll live to see the next day. There are so many intangible factors that can only be known by living it, not studying it. White people live through racism too though, which is why the issues of intersectionality sometimes baffle me because tons of forms of tribalism exist out there that permiate all over the place. Ever been called a fat wop before for example? I'm Italian and it kind of hurts but you get over it, but the casual form of how folks sometimes use slurs or things like that is often universal. As I said, from experience that is something that you learn around the world. I may not know how that fully feels, I may have to research such heartache, but it doesn't stop me from showing empathy to such things to better understand why that is. No, white people can't live through racism. Even if someone calls you names for the color of your skin, you still occupy a privileged place on the society (despite wanting it or not), and your race wasn't slaved for centuries for the only reason of the color of your skin, a slavery that still has effects in western society (especially latin and american societies). So being called a "wop" doesn't have the same weight of a black person being called a "" or "monkey". Also, racism is structural. Cops won't shoot you because you're white, no matter how many people call you "wop".
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