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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Oct 24, 2017 17:41:11 GMT
I haven't finished the video yet, but based on what what I've seen I would say MP did a bit of both. MP in ME3 did a lot to show EA the profit that they could earn by making another ME MP game. So I'm sure that had some influence on their decision to approve MEA/push it through despite it's short comings rather than cancel. At the same time, it seems like ME3MP's success might have influenced the development of DAI and MEA for the worse (tack on some semblance of a MP component with loot crates just to earn more money post-purchase). This isn't just EA, this is every single online multiplayer game since 2008. EA just doesn't know there is effort to be made to achieve those goals. I don't have a single issue with how EA makes its money, I do have an issue with selling me what is now free trash for $60+ american. |
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Post by shinobiwan on Oct 24, 2017 18:15:19 GMT
There is no money flow from shareholders to companies unless the company issues new shares against cash. And while you can sue for any shit in the US it seems, corporate commander has extensive liberties to conduct the affairs of the company without having Joe shareholder having to consent to every step they make and that includes dividend policies. Anyway, didvidends is what is decided at the AGM. Yes, I realise that companies don't part-take in the money flow that comes with trading stock (it happens but not as a rule). Yet stock price is a the measuring stick for the financial health of a publicly traded company. To give an example: every company, no matter how large, is (partially) dependent on bank loans or other forms of loan capital. I can assure you your stock price on the market matters when you knock on such doors. Another example might be that you get taken over by a larger, better performing company if your stock price goes too low. As a rule of thumb, if you can't promise dividend on a regular basis, your stock may well become uninteresting. And, perhaps the most important one: although - as you say - management of a publicly owned company is generally given more than ample room to freely conduct that company in the western world, if stock prices under-perform, shareholders may well start to look for a change of management, which would then also be decided upon in a annual special shareholders meeting... Im not trying to be argumentative and I agree with the general point, but this is also inaccurate. The stock price is really more correlated to growth prospects for a company like EA than its current financial status. It's only when a company reaches its endgame - i.e. reaches its terminal growth rate (typically a little higher than the rate of inflation) and starts focusing on issuing consistent dividends - does its current financial health really factor into the stock price. Stockholders don't choose the company's management typically. They elect the company's board of directors, which then chooses management. I've also seen companies operating with no debt. It's rare and a terrific achievement, but it does happen. Debt financing is usually more dependent on the company's cash flows. The stock price hardly matters. Equity financing (issuing more stock, doing a round of pref) has a different set of pros and cons and is usually more tied to the current stock price. Really not trying to be a jerk, and I think you do have a basic understanding of these concepts, but you're getting a lot of things wrong. Happy to take it to a PM if you want to discuss further. |
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Post by shinobiwan on Oct 24, 2017 18:28:23 GMT
To be more clear, perhaps: I'm not trying to say you can't have long term strategies with a publicly traded company but rather that there has to be a regular recurring dividend plan in place. And to be able to pay dividend, there has to be profit I'm sorry, I have to take it back, it appears I don't agree with your core point. This is just not correct. The directive is to maximize stockholder value. That doesn't mean you need to issue regular dividends, and that's typically not the strategy for growth companies like EA. If you're wondering where the money goes, it gets reinvested in the company to grow. More projects, bigger projects, etc. that drive up the value of the company overall. That causes the stock price to increase. Once room for growth runs out, they start considering dividends instead. But absent something contractual (which wouldn't happen for common stock anyway), the company isn't responsible for writing the stockholders a check every month/year/whatever. |
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Post by Scathane on Oct 24, 2017 18:44:28 GMT
Yes, I realise that companies don't part-take in the money flow that comes with trading stock (it happens but not as a rule). Yet stock price is a the measuring stick for the financial health of a publicly traded company. To give an example: every company, no matter how large, is (partially) dependent on bank loans or other forms of loan capital. I can assure you your stock price on the market matters when you knock on such doors. Another example might be that you get taken over by a larger, better performing company if your stock price goes too low. As a rule of thumb, if you can't promise dividend on a regular basis, your stock may well become uninteresting. And, perhaps the most important one: although - as you say - management of a publicly owned company is generally given more than ample room to freely conduct that company in the western world, if stock prices under-perform, shareholders may well start to look for a change of management, which would then also be decided upon in a annual special shareholders meeting... Im not trying to be argumentative and I agree with the general point, but this is also inaccurate. The stock price is really more correlated to growth prospects for a company like EA than its current financial status. It's only when a company reaches its endgame - i.e. reaches its terminal growth rate (typically a little higher than the rate of inflation) and starts focusing on issuing consistent dividends - does its current financial health really factor into the stock price. Stockholders don't choose the company's management typically. They elect the company's board of directors, which then chooses management. I've also seen companies operating with no debt. It's rare and a terrific achievement, but it does happen. Debt financing is usually more dependent on the company's cash flows. The stock price hardly matters. Equity financing (issuing more stock, doing a round of pref) has a different set of pros and cons and is usually more tied to the current stock price. Really not trying to be a jerk, and I think you do have a basic understanding of these concepts, but you're getting a lot of things wrong. Happy to take it to a PM if you want to discuss further. I don't think you're being a jerk. But then, neither do I think I'm wrong. I do realise I have but a mere basic understanding in terms of financial complexity, which - I also realise - is really, really complex. The basic rules underlying all that complexity are - in the end - quite simple. To keep to the management election: sure, the Board of Directors selects the management, the formal okay is given in a shareholders meeting AFAIK. And, I mean, a court case like Ford vs. Dodge Bros. (it's technically the other way around, prolly): I don't make that stuff up you know. And then, I don't think we're that far apart. I'm talking basics, you're talking more along the finesses and complexities. In the end, my initial remark to your for-profit post merely meant to say that there are essential differences between privately and publicly owned for-profit companies... |
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 24, 2017 20:04:37 GMT
There is no money flow from shareholders to companies unless the company issues new shares against cash. And while you can sue for any shit in the US it seems, corporate commander has extensive liberties to conduct the affairs of the company without having Joe shareholder having to consent to every step they make and that includes dividend policies. Anyway, didvidends is what is decided at the AGM. Yes, I realise that companies don't part-take in the money flow that comes with trading stock (it happens but not as a rule). Yet stock price is a the measuring stick for the financial health of a publicly traded company. To give an example: every company, no matter how large, is (partially) dependent on bank loans or other forms of loan capital. I can assure you your stock price on the market matters when you knock on such doors. Another example might be that you get taken over by a larger, better performing company if your stock price goes too low. As a rule of thumb, if you can't promise dividend on a regular basis, your stock may well become uninteresting. And, perhaps the most important one: although - as you say - management of a publicly owned company is generally given more than ample room to freely conduct that company in the western world, if stock prices under-perform, shareholders may well start to look for a change of management, which would then also be decided upon in a annual special shareholders meeting... It would be an ill-advid#sed bank to look at the stock price instead of assets and collaterals. Going public is pretty much that: You become exposed and have to be more transparent. And employ accountants to make it a bit more intransparent in turn. You're known - at least the bank can more easily look up on you and there is the possibility of turning debt into equity easily. Who decides at the AGM comes down to the majorities. There is no danger as long yor cronies and yourself own 50% + 1 share. But yeah, in general stock price reflects how well the company is perceived to be doing in the nearer future. Control is e.g. different when looking at EA compared to Ubisoft. |
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Post by onehitparry on Oct 24, 2017 21:08:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 2:13:13 GMT
8. You played with the wrong crowd. Volus are good at reviving, buffing, debuffing, and had top tier powersets. I was never much of a fan of them but they were fun to play. I've done multiple Volus only plats on PS3 and talk to my man EmanChrisB who EMBARASSED TGIs and GIs alike with Volus kits Ahhh this was a tear jerker, not gonna lie, this makes me wanna return to ME3MP. Oni mahhh dude has got my vote, people HEAVILY underestimate their worth. Oni knows, this makes me happy that some people still remember me for that, even though I've been absent from ME3MP :sob: Not only TGIs and GIs, but I've also done it before to people, who used AIUs and reegars in the past with a Volus on PS3. |
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Post by Scathane on Oct 25, 2017 4:32:40 GMT
To be more clear, perhaps: I'm not trying to say you can't have long term strategies with a publicly traded company but rather that there has to be a regular recurring dividend plan in place. And to be able to pay dividend, there has to be profit I'm sorry, I have to take it back, it appears I don't agree with your core point. This is just not correct. The directive is to maximize stockholder value. That doesn't mean you need to issue regular dividends, and that's typically not the strategy for growth companies like EA. If you're wondering where the money goes, it gets reinvested in the company to grow. More projects, bigger projects, etc. that drive up the value of the company overall. That causes the stock price to increase. Once room for growth runs out, they start considering dividends instead. But absent something contractual (which wouldn't happen for common stock anyway), the company isn't responsible for writing the stockholders a check every month/year/whatever. I read up a bit on the webs and completely agree with you. In fact, EA is listed as one of the top 500 companies that don't pay dividend. Apparently there are critics who feel these companies should. And then there's Warren Buffett who is said to have stated that "if you want dividend, you should sell off some stock." Anyway, true, I had not considered these growth companies in my rule of thumb, so 'recurring' may be inaccurate. That said, the basic underlying laws for a growth company aren't any different: reinvesting net result instead of paying dividend is something that ultimately has to be agreed upon in an annually recurring shareholders meeting. |
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 25, 2017 14:08:54 GMT
Lord Fortack is laughing a hearty Krogan laugh at the thought of the Quarian Female Engineer being a low-scoring shit class. I am too. Claymore, aim, it ain't complicated. Cryo Blast all the things. Every post reductiveblizzard makes just further confirms that it was not a scrub at ME3MP, he just never played it with anyone that knew what they were doing. Or installed any DLCs.... Floating Vanguards in 2015 my ass. Frankenstein, I recall doing solo plats with the Quarian Engineer. You must be quite the expert with that character eh? I can tell. I haven't soloed Plat with her, but I have carried many Gold's off-host with her. Have a video of that plat solo? I would venture to guess that I have more experience with every kit in the game of ME3MP than you do, and that I can be considered an expert when compared to the likes of you - every single time. |
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 25, 2017 14:18:08 GMT
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Post by poultrymancer on Oct 25, 2017 17:03:59 GMT
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Post by DoctorDAM on Oct 26, 2017 1:11:30 GMT
So - in a sense - we, the MPers, might be considered responsible for the success of the franchise by throwing money so lavishly at ME3MP, yet our refraining from doing so in MEAMP might then just as well be argued to have killed it. Late to the party, and possibly a repeat of what others have opined, but ... 1) MP'rs aren't responsible for the "success of the franchise". ME was a fantastically successful franchise before ME3MP appeared. And I'll argue that ME3 was a great SP game in its own right (nevermind the last 30 minutes). 2) MP'rs didn't kill the franchise. Bioware/EA did. MEA is a mediocre SP game (took me 6 months to struggle to care to complete it). MEA is a mediocre MP game (somehow played 100 hrs before I realized I was having a pretty lousy time of it). 3) Even if MP'rs did pour money into the MEAMP packs, it just means the next game would likely have doubled-down on the loot monetization. In my book, that means the franchise was as good as dead already. 4) BUT, it does appear that ME3's MP success did strongly influence the direction of MEA. And in that sense, it did contribute to its demise. But I doubt that was only ME3MP's doing. Everyone seems to be going open world / microtransactions. That is the problem. |
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Post by Scathane on Oct 26, 2017 4:39:28 GMT
So - in a sense - we, the MPers, might be considered responsible for the success of the franchise by throwing money so lavishly at ME3MP, yet our refraining from doing so in MEAMP might then just as well be argued to have killed it. Late to the party, and possibly a repeat of what others have opined, but ... 1) MP'rs aren't responsible for the "success of the franchise". ME was a fantastically successful franchise before ME3MP appeared. And I'll argue that ME3 was a great SP game in its own right (nevermind the last 30 minutes). 2) MP'rs didn't kill the franchise. Bioware/EA did. MEA is a mediocre SP game (took me 6 months to struggle to care to complete it). MEA is a mediocre MP game (somehow played 100 hrs before I realized I was having a pretty lousy time of it). 3) Even if MP'rs did pour money into the MEAMP packs, it just means the next game would likely have doubled-down on the loot monetization. In my book, that means the franchise was as good as dead already. 4) BUT, it does appear that ME3's MP success did strongly influence the direction of MEA. And in that sense, it did contribute to its demise. But I doubt that was only ME3MP's doing. Everyone seems to be going open world / microtransactions. That is the problem. Well, I did mean 'responsible' in a general sense, as 'caused/set in motion' rather than 'to be accountable for'. But, sure, I agree with you: the decisions taken with regard to games are made by companies, not gamers. And, yeah, I've read several articles on the webs that say the same things: that EA switched its main focus to 'open-world', 'social' and 'games as a service' a few years ago. As a side note: I played the SP campaign twice and although I thought it wasn't torture or anything, I never finished it because I just couldn't be bothered. As stated before, this has left me disenfranchised... |
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Post by captainkei on Oct 26, 2017 20:47:30 GMT
I PLAY PLATINUM ONLY. All my responses will be tailored for platinum gameplay. You can do a buncha stupid shit on lower difficulties and get away with it. So, we’ll stick with platinum for this discussion. 2,3 & 20. The krogan Vangaurd alone has viable melee builds on platinum. In fact, I ran platinum solos with the Krogaurd doing Melees alone (played it like how a krogan should). I’ve seen other solos with a reegar carbine posted by other dummies. A krogan that never melee’d and used a reegar carbine all day?!?! L2P, my ASS. Batarian Melee really? Try a melee build (sacrifice health), but keep meleeing on platinum and you will scraping the pavement fast. And yeah, you may melee with a turian once a while, whoop di doo. The fact that ALL characters have AoE dive melees is great. ME3 restricted it to a few (the jetpack turians, etc) MEA has interesting melees that can be enchanced through specific evolutions on the passive tree. Shield regen from melee attacks (asari barrier evolution), health regen, Ice Melees (salarian operator, which can be detonated). Creates interesting variations of gameplay. 4. Hunter Mode was extremely harsh on the eyes. I could barely play the Geth I and Geth E because of this. If a person’s physically uncomfortable using a power, it oughta be thrown out. If you're already a blind bat, it doesn't matter i suppose. 11, 12, 13, 14. Ugly maps, ugly graphics, granted its an older game. I spend a lot on high end GPUs and hardware. When more eye candy shows up, I leave the ugly shit behind. Verticality is amazing dude. 16. Do a plat solo without a cyc mod IV on your drull. Be fast as fuck and see what happens Sherlock. You’ll be crapping all over yourself fast as fuck. 17. Useless Turrets. The assault turret (omni link, cryo debuff) and the Remnant VI (detonations, insane health) are way more viable than ME3’s shit turrets. Everyone here mentioned playing platinum. We know. No, it's not the only melee-viable kit on platinum. The Warlord (story later under the maps/hunter mode response), Slayer, Cabal, Juggernaut, Vanilla Krogan, and Shadow are included there. And you know what, I have run, with mild success, a pseudo-melee Volus kit while playing with patient friends. Fuck that AOE melee. It's useless except to hope for a kill steal in a pinch. The maps were not ugly. Any hazard map especially was awesome to play, look at, etc. Hazard Giant and Ghost (acid rain!) were very cool. On Hazard White, my friends and I did a platinum run with 4 Warlords, all using geth scanners. We crushed it, and the blindness was part of the challenge. Cyclonic mods on a Drell are useless. Even with the mod IV, you'd get around 500-600 shields? You are better off with the adrenaline rush and fuckin' hell yeah it's cool and totally viable. I ran my Drell with that pinpoint-accurate shotgun and fucked enemies through walls. I'll agree with the turret thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 4:46:27 GMT
Geoff turrets keep me alive. Cryo turrets debuf-FUCK I JUST USED INCINERATE  That aforementioned 25kill scoreboard topper I mentioned with a Turian Sabotuer? Platinum  LOL Solo. I prefer to play with a team not longplay for 40 minutes in an unpausable situation. Drell b fast as fok boi Ugly maps are subjective m8. Kett maps still look like Clan Urdnot's collective turds gathered after a huge simultaneous dump. Hunter mode blinding is subjective. The obvious intent was this thing called B A L A N C I N G. Not everything's supposed to be easy peasy lemon squeezy without a weakness or downside.  So much variety in melee! You get a superman punch, a sucker punch, a regular punch, and a sword slash/shank/headbutt. While the headbutt looks more devastating, I'd rather crush skulls in the same manner as Urdnot Wrex. In ME3 you got: Falcon punch, headbutt, Omni blade fire/ice/thunder type, Omniblade pimp smack, palm thrust, Van Damme Roundhouse Karate Kick, Teleporting AOE Divebomb, Asari Orgasm, Biotic Version of Slayer's QCB+P, Kasumi's Shadow Strike Punch, Running Nova, Krogan Pimp Hand, Shadow Broker Shield Smack, AWF WITH HIS FOCKIN HEAD, Teleporting AWF WITH HIS FOCKIN HEAD, Omnibow, Glacier Wind Hook Fist, l337 Cloak Skillz, l337 Perfect Barrier, Geoff Prime Synch Kill, Talk To The Hand, Odinson 3 Hit Combo, Berseker Barrage, and tons more! Mea doesn't compare. I'd rather all characters not have the same abilities and gameplay mechanics. That's why those fat birbs in the Milky Way felt so unique. Krogan are the only plat viable melee kits?  HOLD THIS MAN'S BEER And  |
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Post by captainkei on Oct 27, 2017 15:58:02 GMT
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Post by MrsFlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyingKebab on Oct 27, 2017 17:31:13 GMT
So much variety in melee! You get a superman punch, a sucker punch, a regular punch, and a sword slash/shank/headbutt. While the headbutt looks more devastating, I'd rather crush skulls in the same manner as Urdnot Wrex. In ME3 you got: Falcon punch, headbutt, Omni blade fire/ice/thunder type, Omniblade pimp smack, palm thrust, Van Damme Roundhouse Karate Kick, Teleporting AOE Divebomb, Asari Orgasm, Biotic Version of Slayer's QCB+P, Kasumi's Shadow Strike Punch, Running Nova, Krogan Pimp Hand, Shadow Broker Shield Smack, AWF WITH HIS FOCKIN HEAD, Teleporting AWF WITH HIS FOCKIN HEAD, Omnibow, Glacier Wind Hook Fist, l337 Cloak Skillz, l337 Perfect Barrier, Geoff Prime Synch Kill, Talk To The Hand, Odinson 3 Hit Combo, Berseker Barrage, and tons more! Mea doesn't compare. I want to wine and dine this paragraph then do unspeakable things to it  Viva la doof! Edit: MEA doesn't have over cover grabs. It lost the race right there! |
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When you drop 15 stacks off of daddy's credit card to get a max manifest and then right after 99% of pc players download something to get the same while 50+% of the console player base rocket glitch it in a matter of weeks and never needed it in the first place.  |
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Post by seductivewizard on Oct 27, 2017 23:43:34 GMT
I PLAY PLATINUM ONLY. All my responses will be tailored for platinum gameplay. You can do a buncha stupid shit on lower difficulties and get away with it. So, we’ll stick with platinum for this discussion. 2,3 & 20. The krogan Vangaurd alone has viable melee builds on platinum. In fact, I ran platinum solos with the Krogaurd doing Melees alone (played it like how a krogan should). I’ve seen other solos with a reegar carbine posted by other dummies. A krogan that never melee’d and used a reegar carbine all day?!?! L2P, my ASS. Batarian Melee really? Try a melee build (sacrifice health), but keep meleeing on platinum and you will scraping the pavement fast. And yeah, you may melee with a turian once a while, whoop di doo. The fact that ALL characters have AoE dive melees is great. ME3 restricted it to a few (the jetpack turians, etc) MEA has interesting melees that can be enchanced through specific evolutions on the passive tree. Shield regen from melee attacks (asari barrier evolution), health regen, Ice Melees (salarian operator, which can be detonated). Creates interesting variations of gameplay. 4. Hunter Mode was extremely harsh on the eyes. I could barely play the Geth I and Geth E because of this. If a person’s physically uncomfortable using a power, it oughta be thrown out. If you're already a blind bat, it doesn't matter i suppose. 11, 12, 13, 14. Ugly maps, ugly graphics, granted its an older game. I spend a lot on high end GPUs and hardware. When more eye candy shows up, I leave the ugly shit behind. Verticality is amazing dude. 16. Do a plat solo without a cyc mod IV on your drull. Be fast as fuck and see what happens Sherlock. You’ll be crapping all over yourself fast as fuck. 17. Useless Turrets. The assault turret (omni link, cryo debuff) and the Remnant VI (detonations, insane health) are way more viable than ME3’s shit turrets. Everyone here mentioned playing platinum. We know. No, it's not the only melee-viable kit on platinum. The Warlord (story later under the maps/hunter mode response), Slayer, Cabal, Juggernaut, Vanilla Krogan, and Shadow are included there. And you know what, I have run, with mild success, a pseudo-melee Volus kit while playing with patient friends. Fuck that AOE melee. It's useless except to hope for a kill steal in a pinch. The maps were not ugly. Any hazard map especially was awesome to play, look at, etc. Hazard Giant and Ghost (acid rain!) were very cool. On Hazard White, my friends and I did a platinum run with 4 Warlords, all using geth scanners. We crushed it, and the blindness was part of the challenge. Cyclonic mods on a Drell are useless. Even with the mod IV, you'd get around 500-600 shields? You are better off with the adrenaline rush and fuckin' hell yeah it's cool and totally viable. I ran my Drell with that pinpoint-accurate shotgun and fucked enemies through walls. I'll agree with the turret thing. I see that you have selectively copied/edited/pasted snippets of my comment to respond to? Was the whole comment and the truthbombs you edited out too hard to handle for the ME3 KoolAid warriors? |
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Post by captainkei on Oct 29, 2017 3:50:31 GMT
Everyone here mentioned playing platinum. We know. No, it's not the only melee-viable kit on platinum. The Warlord (story later under the maps/hunter mode response), Slayer, Cabal, Juggernaut, Vanilla Krogan, and Shadow are included there. And you know what, I have run, with mild success, a pseudo-melee Volus kit while playing with patient friends. Fuck that AOE melee. It's useless except to hope for a kill steal in a pinch. The maps were not ugly. Any hazard map especially was awesome to play, look at, etc. Hazard Giant and Ghost (acid rain!) were very cool. On Hazard White, my friends and I did a platinum run with 4 Warlords, all using geth scanners. We crushed it, and the blindness was part of the challenge. Cyclonic mods on a Drell are useless. Even with the mod IV, you'd get around 500-600 shields? You are better off with the adrenaline rush and fuckin' hell yeah it's cool and totally viable. I ran my Drell with that pinpoint-accurate shotgun and fucked enemies through walls. I'll agree with the turret thing. I see that you have selectively copied/edited/pasted snippets of my comment to respond to? Was the whole comment and the truthbombs you edited out too hard to handle for the ME3 KoolAid warriors? No. I can disagree with you without having to respond to every little thing, especially when any point I might make has mostly been made previously by the other nice contributors. Not reponding to every little thing, I didn't feel it necessary to include the irrelevant items in the post. No need to feel threatened, bra. That said, the only "truth bomb" was the turret thing, which I did mention. And speaking of not responding to things... |
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Post by gethadept on Oct 30, 2017 1:17:38 GMT
Multiplayer is innocent either way. At best it saved the franchise. At worst it did no harm.
MEA failed because
1. Political Correctness implemented in the game unnecessarily
2. Poor animation & boring characters. Each was absolutely unacceptable level to be a good RPG game. Together absolutely disastrous.
I personally spent $100 on ME3MP store. I feel sorry for myself for doing that.
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 30, 2017 13:11:20 GMT
Multiplayer is innocent either way. At best it saved the franchise. At worst it did no harm. MEA failed because 1. Political Correctness implemented in the game unnecessarily 2. Poor animation & boring characters. Each was absolutely unacceptable level to be a good RPG game. Together absolutely disastrous. I personally spent $100 on ME3MP store. I feel sorry for myself for doing that. I played ME3MP to the death. Instead of buying lottery tickets I bought all the DLC. Most of it - not every horse armour. So I spent more money and got more little stuff to play with. Would have never bought DLC else. I tend to not buy shortcuts in Warframe neither. New stuff comes out - I grind it or ignore it. Only when there is exclusive stuff that looks strange, funny, ridiculous I might buy it when in the mood. The rest is for slots and colours and potatoes on sale. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 20:16:08 GMT
Not gonna lie. After going to ME3 a few days and counting, it really exposes MEA's flaws.
You get far more credits in ME3. After a few games I was a millionaire. In MEA I'm nearly always broke and its a chore to get enough to buy an Apex Elite. The retarded idea of balancing and focusing more on bronze and silver constantly gives Silver Apex missions all the big bonuses. Fuck that. It's nearly as challenging as gold yet you refuse to give Apex gold missions with big bonuses rather than that stingy ass 10%.
Map awareness. In MEA despite a radar you're getting constantly fucked in the ass by flak cannon, dogs, and shield stealing angara hobos. I think a big part of this are the audio cues. Most of these fuckers are mutes or just speak really low since the gunfire sounds are prioritized. Another issue was that the camera's too close. Not only can I not stare at my asari's butt while watching mine but I can't see shit outside of about 110 degrees. Once again, in ME3 you got audio cues to let you know when a sneaky phantom was trying to catch you slipping. Despite pyros being silent (a balancing act that works since they are ineffective at range) you can hear just about every other enemy. Gun toting mooks are the most talkative often and the camera view is far better.
Damage scaling in MEA is ridiculous. All enemies save for Destined do boss level damage, even the salarian with a pistol! In ME3 bosses armor does heavy damage alone while other enemies in tandem can completely wreck your shit if you're cornered. Phantoms are the exception to that rule since they're focused mostly on melee attacks. It's the reason why MEA plat is garbage. You spend the first 3 waves taking cover from mini Praetorians if you dare not use an infiltrator. In ME3 I took a Drell for a spin on Ghost and didn't feel nearly as squishy.
Grab kills. Don't really need to say more but I will anyways. These were awesome. It was always fun competing with other to be the first to 5 grabs and it's a great mechanic to save your hide in a pinch. Say you're being shot by marauders and a husk happens to come up to the cover you're behind and you grab that husk. You get a ton of DR and i-frames long enough to recover your shields so you can hop the barrier and get out of dodge. In MEA you're stuck covering behind a table while a Raider stands over you like a micromanaging boss spying on your desktop screen.
If both games could be combined using ME3's engine and philosophy and MEA's verticality and speed, it'd be THE perfect MEMP.
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