Fanbase Phenomenon: The Latest ME is Always the Worst

Eh, the writing only really got worse with ME:A. The OT had flops in writing, but not as many nor as bad as ME:A. *shrugs*

This gotta be some kind of ME1 was terrible troll thread, right?

How anybody can be a fan of Mass Effect and dislike ME1 so much is beyond me. And for God's sake, can we stop trashing the combat of a TEN YEAR old game? An RPG for that matter. ME1 played fine back then and looked amazing. If you ask me, all Bioware games but ME3 have merely passable combat that gets the job done. MEA's combat is the most competent aspect of the game. So? That's not what Bioware is so loved for.

What's so difficult to understand about RPG fans caring most about story and characters? Really, either OP is trolling hard or lacking basic comprehension skills.

So yes, call me triggered here!

And no, it's not Bioware fans being weird about change. It's human nature. Being wary of change to something we love is very very common. Some people feel more strongly about it than others, sure. But this is not a Bioware specific problem at all, as has been stated already in other posts.

What is kind of new to me on BSN at least is people discrediting the game that started the franchise and playing dumb about how anybody could have liked it. Not even when the rude COD crowd arrived with ME3 were people trashing ME1 like that. The general consensus was that ME1 was the best game in terms of storytelling but had the weakest combat. And I agree with that.

I see this as a knee jerk reaction to all the MEA backlash. God knows I hated the ME3 ending meltdown and left BSN for two years because all the negativity was just plain absurd. But hey, at least everyone was united in their anger, I guess. The ones who didn't mind the ending mostly just kept talking about other aspects of the game or simply left like me.

There never was so much shit flinging at each other before about any previous ME or DA game. So it's either the internet that has devolved or it's MEA's lukewarm reception that has divided the fan base like never before into two rabid camps. Probably both of these things.

That by itself is not unusual though. Just perhaps a bit dramatic even for BSN. But the entire internet is like this for me now. It's always one extreme or the other.

And I don't really care to participate in it. But all this ME1 sucks because the combat sucks ten years later (duh), is what triggers *me*!

So, I guess I walked into this one voluntarily. *g*

ME1's combat is servicible today and was servicible 10 years ago. It's combat has always been criticized. It did look extremely well for a 2007 game, although it was full of technical issues and terrible performance, something that would not be tolerated today. 

Not just butthurt, board-swallowing butthurt. Poll or not, BSN and other places made it their collective missions to rag and nitpick on an otherwise solid game.

ME1's combat was bested by it's peers on launch. Gears of War did the TPS cover shooter shtick better, Fallout did the RPG thing better, and yes, ME1 was a technical mess, arguably more so than ME:A.

ME did the story and character aspects better than it's peers of course, but not by leaps and bounds. While ME1's story was interesting and new, it was also cliched and done already. ME1's characters, while having more depth than most games of the time, still rang hollow.

The problem with making general statements regarding an entire fan base is that you can find "evidence" to support pretty much any claim. If this is a legitimate phenomenon and not just another case of good old confirmation bias, wouldn't it kinda make sense that over time people would accept the flaws of something and focus more on the aspects they enjoyed assuming they did in get enjoyment from it. 

Save your sermon, this isn't a church.

Yeah, that was my impression too. The malcontents after ME2 were a minority, although a fairly substantial one. 10%? 20%?

General statements? Fits the definition so I guess so, but I have witnessed this phenomenon repeat itself 3 times now and the reaction only gets more vitriolic and loud with each iteration. If people were accepting of the flaws that are discussed ad nauseum, we would be seeing a decline in the vitriol and voraciousness, but instead we see a seemingly logarithmic increase.

I have witnessed fanbases do this sort of thing before, but not to this degree of regularity or intensity.

I must be the odd bird that enjoyed ME I combat...

I will DESTROY you!

Go,go,go!

Lost shields!



It had it's share of clumsiness, but with good balance of cover and mobility, ( hate bouncing in Gears). enemies were fairly mobile and powers were refresh take in TPS.

Bouncing in GoW was what created the skill ceiling. Without it, it would have been a boring TPS as apposed to the esport it grew to be.

Don't get me going on Gears... you won't be able to shut me up!