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Post by dragontartare on Feb 4, 2018 17:32:17 GMT
I'm also up for making the reporter role more useful. I can't remember if I posted this already or just thought about it, but what if the reporter has a chance to actually find out useful information? Maybe for every player rolled for the reporter to target, the reporter gets a 50/50 chance of being told the player's allegiance? Dragon, here's something, looking back Maybe that turned into Emily Wong's role? From this post: bsn.boards.net/post/977353/threadNo one seemed to like that Diana idea, though. That character could just sit out a game since we have a few new ones, unless anyone else has an idea for her. Emily got the Oracle role.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Feb 4, 2018 23:35:23 GMT
Sorry, I'll update the first post some time today What does everyone think about who Garrus will be able to shoot? I think I'm the only one who has expressed an opinion on that. Hmm, I'm still not completely sure. Maybe have Evil Garrus shoot whoever they want one more time. Odds are the next game won't be as confusing/unsure as the last game if Liara survives at least two rounds. If things wind up being as unsure for the Heroes as it was during the previous game, then make Evil Garrus only shoot the Heroes. Isn't evil Garrus shooting twice blatantly showing him up? That'll just start the hunt for him.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 5, 2018 1:12:35 GMT
Hmm, I'm still not completely sure. Maybe have Evil Garrus shoot whoever they want one more time. Odds are the next game won't be as confusing/unsure as the last game if Liara survives at least two rounds. If things wind up being as unsure for the Heroes as it was during the previous game, then make Evil Garrus only shoot the Heroes. Isn't evil Garrus shooting twice blatantly showing him up? That'll just start the hunt for him. "One more time" meaning for one more game before we think about changing his role. He won't get two shots
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Feb 6, 2018 8:10:36 GMT
Place is rather quiet so this is to rustle some life in here. I'm sorry, no. The LI is Liara. Garrus, to me, is a wonderful bro in arms, a steadfast friend. Haha. I'm so the opposite. I did a bit of the Liara romance (ME1 only) and that one felt awkward to me because she's just so young in that game. I plan to finish the romance one day, but to me she's better as a friend for Shepard. Liara did come across to me as immature and at times, too forward / uncomfortable, in ME1. Between her and Kaidan, I still prefer her though. Kaidan is, how shall I put it. Standard issue. When I wrote the fanfic, I ruminated over why they wrote her dialogue and responses that way in ME1. Perhaps it's a mistake, perhaps it's intentional. Whatever it was, it's already there so I've to work on it. I largely put it down to her youth and her own admittance of isolation; she preferred to be alone because she's more interested in her work. Day after day, year after year, she's comfortable with the routine of uncovering information about the Protheans; pottering about. Then out of the blue, she got wrenched out of her safe niche and thrown in a boiling pot with personal issues thrown in. That's not going to make anyone so inexperience react in a pragmatic manner. When has anyone in their teens / youth do or say sensible things when they feel like a fish out of the water? Like when they have a part to play in the fate of the galaxy? After that stint in ME1, she changed / matured though imo, she still has some ways to go. But then of course she does since she's still very young by Asari standards.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 7, 2018 0:14:20 GMT
But then of course she does since she's still very young by Asari standards. Her behavior isn't unbelievable for a very young adult, it just doesn't make me want to have 30-ish Shepard date her Though I will anyway (eventually) probably with another femshep. It's unfortunate that the game tries so hard to lock in a romance between her and Shepard above every other LI, though. We need players so we can get going here. Who is in Skyhold who might want to play both games? (I will ask cmoe, I think.) gervaise21 are you still going to run this one?
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Feb 7, 2018 0:48:30 GMT
We need players so we can get going here. Wh is in Skyhold who might want to play both games? (I will ask cmoe, I think.) gervaise21 are you still going to run this one? I doubt we're going to get them? Can the game start with fewer than 10?
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 7, 2018 1:32:38 GMT
We need players so we can get going here. Wh is in Skyhold who might want to play both games? (I will ask cmoe, I think.) gervaise21 are you still going to run this one? I doubt we're going to get them? Can the game start with fewer than 10? Why do you doubt it? Maybe we could play with fewer players, but only two spies?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 2:51:24 GMT
I've been planning on skipping a couple of rounds, since I've been participating in every game in both threads, but it's no funzies when either game needs more players. I'll play. I'll probably be quieter than usual (much to the villain relief ). In my experience, when it comes to an 8 - 10 players group, two villains work well. As for ME2, my Sheppard recruited a wacky Templar lady and hitched a ride on a Collectors ship where some Cory like creep kept shouting 'assuming control,' which turned his lackeys into mean fireball spitting creeps. Good thing some people have lvl 4 invisibility cloak to take real good head shots with a sniper gun.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 7, 2018 9:09:02 GMT
Yes, I'm still happy to run it.
Updated list: 1. Dragontartare 2. Pelassarias 3. Obsidian Gryphon 4. Fylimar 5. Romice 6. Moonae 7. Space Cowboy 8. Adonniel
I'll leave it another 24 hours to see if anyone else joins up. Otherwise, are you happy to proceed with just 8 players? I can juggle the number of spies (1 or 2) depending on the roles in play. If there are 2 guaranteed good roles in play then I think there should definitely be 2 spies. However, if there is a weighting towards roles that can be turned/opt for joining the spies, then may be only need start with one spy.
Alternatively, how about it working like the latest Skyhold game, so instead of eliminating people from the game, indoctrination literally causes them to change sides? This could only happen on Night 2. Only the original spy can do this. If the original spy is voted off then the new spy must continue alone but cannot turn people, only eliminate them. Whoever Liara investigates the first night she will not receive the result of her investigation until after the first day's voting is over.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 7, 2018 16:05:16 GMT
Yes, I'm still happy to run it.
Updated list: 1. Dragontartare 2. Pelassarias 3. Obsidian Gryphon 4. Fylimar 5. Romice 6. Moonae 7. Space Cowboy 8. Adonniel
I'll leave it another 24 hours to see if anyone else joins up. Otherwise, are you happy to proceed with just 8 players? I can juggle the number of spies (1 or 2) depending on the roles in play. If there are 2 guaranteed good roles in play then I think there should definitely be 2 spies. However, if there is a weighting towards roles that can be turned/opt for joining the spies, then may be only need start with one spy.
Alternatively, how about it working like the latest Skyhold game, so instead of eliminating people from the game, indoctrination literally causes them to change sides? This could only happen on Night 2. Only the original spy can do this. If the original spy is voted off then the new spy must continue alone but cannot turn people, only eliminate them. Whoever Liara investigates the first night she will not receive the result of her investigation until after the first day's voting is over.
I wouldn't mind that. But in this game does the indoctrination take away the ability or they get to keep it?
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Post by fylimar on Feb 7, 2018 17:02:39 GMT
Yes, I'm still happy to run it.
Updated list: 1. Dragontartare 2. Pelassarias 3. Obsidian Gryphon 4. Fylimar 5. Romice 6. Moonae 7. Space Cowboy 8. Adonniel
I'll leave it another 24 hours to see if anyone else joins up. Otherwise, are you happy to proceed with just 8 players? I can juggle the number of spies (1 or 2) depending on the roles in play. If there are 2 guaranteed good roles in play then I think there should definitely be 2 spies. However, if there is a weighting towards roles that can be turned/opt for joining the spies, then may be only need start with one spy.
Alternatively, how about it working like the latest Skyhold game, so instead of eliminating people from the game, indoctrination literally causes them to change sides? This could only happen on Night 2. Only the original spy can do this. If the original spy is voted off then the new spy must continue alone but cannot turn people, only eliminate them. Whoever Liara investigates the first night she will not receive the result of her investigation until after the first day's voting is over.
I wouldn't mind that. But in this game does the indoctrination take away the ability or they get to keep it? I think, since we are all roles, we keep our abilities ?
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 7, 2018 18:26:56 GMT
I wouldn't mind that. But in this game does the indoctrination take away the ability or they get to keep it? I think, since we are all roles, we keep our abilities ? That is correct. You would keep your abilities but if there is a difference between how they operate from good to evil, then an appropriate adjustment would have to be made. Still we can cross that bridge when we get to it.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 7, 2018 19:03:00 GMT
Yes, I'm still happy to run it.
Updated list: 1. Dragontartare 2. Pelassarias 3. Obsidian Gryphon 4. Fylimar 5. Romice 6. Moonae 7. Space Cowboy 8. Adonniel
I'll leave it another 24 hours to see if anyone else joins up. Otherwise, are you happy to proceed with just 8 players? I can juggle the number of spies (1 or 2) depending on the roles in play. If there are 2 guaranteed good roles in play then I think there should definitely be 2 spies. However, if there is a weighting towards roles that can be turned/opt for joining the spies, then may be only need start with one spy.
Alternatively, how about it working like the latest Skyhold game, so instead of eliminating people from the game, indoctrination literally causes them to change sides? This could only happen on Night 2. Only the original spy can do this. If the original spy is voted off then the new spy must continue alone but cannot turn people, only eliminate them. Whoever Liara investigates the first night she will not receive the result of her investigation until after the first day's voting is over.
I would personally prefer if we don't do this right now. It's only our second game with the new rules, and last game was already a bit unusual.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 7, 2018 23:16:12 GMT
I would personally prefer if we don't do this right now. It's only our second game with the new rules, and last game was already a bit unusual. Fair enough, it was only a suggestion. I'll go with the original plan then of a maximum of 2 spies if we don't get any more people signing up by tomorrow.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 8, 2018 9:57:52 GMT
Okay, so here is a brief summary of the rules and roles included in this game:
There will be only two spies. Liara is the only role always present - she is always good. I have increased the number of floating roles because of the reduced number of players.
Floating roles:
Garrus - good or evil (however an evil Garrus may not shoot his own side) Miranda - good or evil (an evil Miranda will block Garrus, if present, or protect herself from Jack, if present, rather than prevent indoctrination) Jack - good Javik - good or evil Wrex - good or evil Tali - good or evil Legion - good or evil Kasumi - good or evil (Kasumi who begins the game as evil may use her ability once per game to block Liara). EDI - always starts as good but can be indoctrinated into changing sides Dr Chakwas - good or evil Emily Wong - good or evil (replaces Diana Allers) Kaidan/Ashley - good or evil Clone - neutral - must choose which side to support when assuming the role of an eliminated person.
Changes/additions to roles:
Tali'Zorah vas Normandy The Quarian Engineer. Once per game during a day round, you may protect someone from being voted off. You may not protect yourself. PM the Game Master to use this ability.
Jack Subject Zero. Once per game, Jack may interrogate another player overnight who she suspects of working for Cerberus. If she is correct, the player is eliminated. If she is wrong, she is eliminated instead.
Karin Chakwas The Medic. Chakwas will do everything to save a patient, even if she's barely holding on herself. Upon night-time elimination (either indoctrinated, shot by Garrus, or interrogated by Jack) you will be able to bring back one player who had previously been eliminated. If that player had any abilities remaining, they will be allowed to use those abilities as usual.
Emily Wong The Investigative Reporter. You are willing to do nearly anything to get to the truth, even if it kills you. Should you be eliminated at night, the role and player name of one of your enemies will be publicly revealed. The revealed player will be randomly chosen from the list of players who are on the opposing side. Due to the complications that will arise should the Clone assume this role, I am going to rule that it is not possible to clone her.
The Clone The Cerberus Science Project. The Evil Clone begins the game as a neutral character, and is able to help or hurt either side. Once you are ready to take over a character's identity, you must declare your intent to the GM and wait for the character to be eliminated. You may change your mind throughout the game at the beginning of each day/night cycle. If you successfully take over a role, you must declare your support for one side of the game or the other. Only the GM will know your choice, but you must behave in accordance with the side you chose.
I think the Clone should be able to assume a role no matter how they are eliminated. If a person is voted off or eliminated overnight, their role will have a question mark alongside it. If the Clone wishes to assume the identity of the person eliminated the first night they must correctly target the role with the GM at the beginning of the Night cycle.
------ I think that has covered everything but if you have any queries or I have missed anything, please let me know. There is no reason why the game should not work with only 9 players but people will just have to be more focussed and careful about what they do.
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Post by Tittus on Feb 8, 2018 10:25:24 GMT
Is there time for one more entry?
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 8, 2018 10:37:29 GMT
Yes, of course there is. I'll add you to the list. So that makes 9 players (even better).
I'm still working on my initial narrative and generating roles so there is still time for other people to join if they wish.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 8, 2018 13:55:41 GMT
Time to bite the bullet I think.
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Shepard slipped into the office of the Shadowbroker and closed the door behind him. He joined Liara as she studied her screen.
“I got your message. It sounded serious. What’s up?”
“It doesn’t look good. My reports indicate that anyone could have been turned.”
“Anyone except you I take it?”
“And you, of course.”
“Thanks.”
“You’re welcome. I've also cleared Joker so at least the Normandy is good to go.”
“Not without the rest of my team. I need answers sooner rather than later, Liara.”
“I’m doing my best.”
“I know. I’ll keep digging myself; best to come at it from all angles. Let me know when you have anything definite. Use Joker as a safe alternative, if I’m off line, and avoid the open channel.”
“Will do, Commander.”
NIGHT ONE IS DECLARED
Roles are currently being sent out - let me know if not received.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 8, 2018 17:45:21 GMT
Just to confirm, owing to a late addition in the nick of time, we now have 10 players. All will be revealed via the narrative at the end of the night.
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Post by Moonae on Feb 8, 2018 18:13:17 GMT
Just to confirm, owing to a late addition in the nick of time, we now have 10 players. All will be revealed via the narrative at the end of the night. 1. Dragontartare 2. Pelassarias 3. Obsidian Gryphon 4. Fylimar 5. Romice 6. Moonae 7. Space Cowboy 8. Adonniel + Tittus makes 9. Who am I missing?
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 8, 2018 18:33:48 GMT
Updated list: 1. Dragontartare 2. Pelassarias 3. Obsidian Gryphon 4. Fylimar 5. Romice 6. Moonae 7. Space Cowboy 8. Adonniel 9. Tittus 10.Serza
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 9, 2018 9:20:20 GMT
Shepard returned to the office at the end of the night. Liara had clearly been burning the midnight oil too. “So what do you have so far?” he asked.
“I’ve made two lists. The shorter one has crew members that I am confident about, the longer one is where I am still undecided.”
“Why has this one been crossed out on the first list?”
“Ah, yes, well I thought they had been cleared but then they turned up late for duty. That seemed out of character so I thought it best to put them back on the other one.”
Shepard frowned thoughtfully. “That is odd. Better to be safe than sorry I suppose. I think that for the next twenty-four hours all their decisions should be filtered through me so they are not unduly influencing the others. Then maybe I’ll have a better idea what to do next.”
“I’ll pass the message on.”
Shepard returned to his apartment and had just got into bed when there was an urgent thumping on the door. Shepard opened it to find one of Bailey’s team looking breathless and anxious.
“There is something you need to see.”
Shepard stopped just long enough to strap on a gun and then followed her at a run back towards the Shadowbroker’s office. Guards were standing at the entrance. The door was broken open and papers scattered. Liara appeared to be sitting staring vacantly at the wall, murmuring about oily shadows. For a second Shepard felt a wave of despair; then he looked closer. Something about Liara didn’t look quite right. At that moment his private channel started to buzz. He moved away from the guards to where he would not be overheard.
“What happened, Liara?”
“They were fooled by one of their own creations. Fortunately for me, though. It is clear they were after me but got her by mistake. I’ve moved my base of operations to a more secure location. From now on we should only communicate in this way until we know who we can trust.”
“I’ll second that. We can’t afford to lose you. I’ll let Bailey and his team think Cerberus did get you. It may be safer that way.”
The eliminated player was: Dragontartare the Clone Liara The late arrival was: Serza: For the present the loyalty of this crew member is uncertain.
For this day cycle Serza will make their vote in secret via Commander Shepard (aka Gervaise the GM).
DAY ONE HAS BEEN DECLARED
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Post by Serza on Feb 9, 2018 9:35:56 GMT
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Post by Moonae on Feb 9, 2018 11:34:29 GMT
So... was that definitely the clone? Cause there was no question mark at the end. Real Liara is still alive right?? *crosses fingers*
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Post by fylimar on Feb 9, 2018 11:43:48 GMT
I'm really sorry , dragon.
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