If Bioware decided to continue the Andromeda storyline do you think Tann would end up like Udina?

Am I the only person who likes Tann? xD

I felt sorry for him, he's in over his head and he's very flawed, but he genuinely is trying to make the Nexus a success... just his vision of success differs to everyone else. I think that they should have done more with his character, and I think that there are many potential stories to be told featuring him and his poor diplomacy.

I hate the way the Rana decision is presented in ME1. Shepard should be able to say, “I’m sorry, but you’re indoctrinated. I can’t let you go. You’re a threat to yourself and others.” Instead, it’s potrayed as a cold-blooded execution. Of course, predictably, it’s revealed to be the right choice in ME3.

I think Udina’s motivations in allying with Cerberus are pretty well explained. The Council was sitting on their hands, withdrawing into their own concerns as Earth was pummeled. (The fact that everyone was getting pummeled wasn’t as important to Udina as their inaction and lack of a plan.) Cerberus approaches him with a plan that gave Earth a chance, in Udina’s mind, so he agreed. I think he really intended the best, and didn’t comprehend Cerberus’ evil. They were the organization that stopped the Collectors, after all. They’d long had the tacit support of the human military-industrial complex, and many secret supporters within the Alliance. The horror show that was Sanctuary wasn’t revealed until after Udina’s death. It went way beyond any level of immoral to which Cerberus had previously sunk. In Udina’s estimation, allying with Cerberus gave humanity (and maybe everyone else) the best chance.

Udina was an ass, but he was neither evil nor stupid.

I have to disagree with that. The guy honestly thought that either all of the other council races would broker no objections to humanity taking over the council or that humanity could hold the seat of the Citadel against all of the other races. I don't know which is worse but they are both terrible line of thoughts even more so considering they're supposed to spring from the head of an allegedly competent and experienced politician. 

Seriously, such a thing would, at the very least, be political suicide for humanity especially since it comes at the heels of the human fleet deciding not to save the council. 

No, I don't think that would happen.

What is more likely is Tann would just be inept at his position. He's a pure bureaucrat and I would love to see a few moments of him meaning well in terms of his policies, but utterly screwing the pooch because of his failures and insecurities.

I don't think so, but lets be honest for a moment. It's highly unlikely they will continue a spin off that was received so poorly especially under EA. A spin off that got a studio closed down, a spin off that they cancelled DLC for altogether. IF they do decide to continue the Andromeda storyline and not go back to Shepverse in an attempt to bring old fans back the the most likely outcome would be something similar to Dragon Age Inquisition, Ryder and some characters might appear but they won't be apart of the main cast. When something bombs this hard, more often than not studios are looking to start fresh not revive something that carries so much negative vibes with it. It would be different in Andromeda was faulty but also had a lot of potential and reedemable qualities. However that's not the case, critics bashed every single aspect....the animations, characters, story, villain. Nah, I think starting fresh or with the old trilogy is the most likely next step.

Indeed.

Though really, I could love a game that adeptly (as in, I don't quite trust they'd be good enough to do this) incorporates both the Shepverse and Ryderverse into something else. Be a pseudo-sequel to MEA, and a better acknowledgement of MET. Especially when DLC/expansions get involved.

I'm certain a game developer can do the MEU better than MEA. I take MEA as just as much an anomaly, as I take it as some sign of degradation within Bioware.

I wouldn't mind Ryder as protagonist again but I would absolutely understand if it doesn't happen. Then again, I'd totally take Ryder as a sort of VS situation and outright have them as a squadmate instead, depending on the new game systems of course.


Things are too... um, not cliffhanger, but loose thread to just abandon. I don't see a series reboot or Andromeda abandonment happening. But I'd be surprised to see a straight-out 'MEA2'. My preference is to leave behind any intentions of MEA as the big start of a newer series/trilogy, but instead treat it as a somewhat optional prelude to something much better. Have its lore and characters help out the next game, but separate it more than anything except the MET-MEA divide itself.


No piece of MEA is a piece that I totally hate. Its just a too mediocre and disappointing product in itself. Want the Scourge? Sure, but do it much better or leave it out for now. Want the Kett? Sure, but do it better or leave it out for now. And want Tann? Sure but do it better or leave him out for now. Have MEA as the lorebin to help out development of the next game (that is, cut the writers some basic worldbuilding slack), but by no means necessitate some larger focus of the journey of Ryder and friends in the Tempest.

I agree with your whole comment 100%

The only thing that I would add would be, nothing in MEA is beyond salvage.  In fact, its weakness maybe a blessing in disguise for the right writer and producer, as there is an almost blank canvass to work with and not allot of detail to get crossed up in.  For example, using the scourge as a principle plot line would not be an issue, as MEA gave you very little about it, other than it is there floating in space and attracted to Jardaan tech.  Also the Kett were introduced in MEA so poorly, that you could virtually say anything you wanted about them and it would only add to the story.

This is the proverbial "cup half full or empty" analogy that needs the right team to make it right and allot easier than bringing back Sheppard, because there is already so much detail and lore associated with that line that will just open many "can's of worms" for anyone that does.  I agree with you that the next MEA would need to go beyond Ryder and friends, and that can be done by moving the timeline forward.  Let Ryder and company be the elder NPC's to support a new crew of a new ship to venture out into a much better created Andromeda system story that still bring closure to all of the holes on MEA1!

I loved the original trilogy, but it is done like dinner!  Anything that anyone would try to do with it now could never do Sheppard justice, so the writer would have to find a new stream anyway and you would still have to deal with all of the story facts created in the originals, as WE would hold the writers feet to the fire, given our love for the franchise.  Expectations would be far to high to go down that road.  My 2-cents.

That all said, I still stick to my original assessment of Tann .... bullet to the head!   

They should do something next game where they stage a coup to overthrow Tann. Or have Peebee find a way to make him disappear. Maybe equip her bot with a disappearing laser.

Tann is pure middle-management, and a micro-manager at that. He doesn't have a clue as to what it takes to do the work, but he has no problems pressuring people to do things whether or not they're actually possible.

"This is science. You're a scientist. Figure it out!" The sheer ignorance behind that statement pegs how bad this guy is as the overall leader of the Initiative. He doesn't belong in the position he's in.

Then again, Addison is incompetent too. She misses obvious clues, doesn't act on repeated complaints *from the people who are making sure everyone stays alive*, and generally isn't suited to her position either.

The only competents in the command structure are Kandros and Kesh. Kandros is where he needs to be but he might actually be better as overall leader of the initiative. It's hard to say, though. Kesh on the other hand is an engineer. 'Whatever works best' would be her motto.

Consider that Udina is a character that was overtaken and then bastardized by Mac Walters in the tie in comics and ME3 so in that sense if Mac ever decides to write Tann in another Andromeda, he will do the same mistakes; make it hardboiled amd edgy and make any semblance of a political character be about power and ruthless pursuit of career. Udina was always looking to climb higher in the system but he was never the "bastard SOB" they wanted you to think he was in 3 and fuck u, indoctrination as an excuse is a cop out.

I didn't like him when he was on-screen.  Hell, I'm playing ME1 right now.  Came back to the Citadel after doing a perfect Feros.  I saved everyone.  No casualties.  Exposed ExoGeni for what it was.  Yet, Udina complained.  Guy's a total asshole for no reason.

my point exactly!!!!! he is a badass asshole politician!