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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 22, 2018 0:12:15 GMT
And what number of Reapers do you assume, every picture in mass implies thousands IMO, end of arrival, hundreds attacking each home world etc. Even 10 would take over the citadel in a minute with no losses and they clearly had a heck of a lot more than 10, there just isn't a reason relaying in meant anything other than a small bit of time. I generally agree. However, I also believe that BioWare wasn't concerned with maintaining continuity/lore from ME1. I mean, we already knew the relays were indestructible because the Mu Relay wasn't destroyed by a supernova. Yet, an asteroid takes out the Alpha Relay with no problem. And, of course, if the Reapers could have just used the Alpha Relay, why even bother with the Citadel relay? They should have had Reapers coming out of both at the same time.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 22, 2018 18:35:43 GMT
And then again why bother? Relaying in gains them nothing. As for fixing themselves in some corner of the galaxy, sure they could. But I have a smaller disconnect from hey somebody stumbled upon them and warned us(which just could have been the arrival DLC, they flew into batarian space to take over and indoctrinate a repair crew) vs hey there is a magic space gun plan that has been added to every cycle and you just found it in time. If miraculously finding the thing Shepard needs in the nick of time actually bothers someone, he shouldn't even be able to get through ME1. How are you getting to thousands? I can't find a pic where we see hundreds of Reapers except for the ending cutscene of ME2.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 22, 2018 22:16:35 GMT
And then again why bother? Relaying in gains them nothing. As for fixing themselves in some corner of the galaxy, sure they could. But I have a smaller disconnect from hey somebody stumbled upon them and warned us(which just could have been the arrival DLC, they flew into batarian space to take over and indoctrinate a repair crew) vs hey there is a magic space gun plan that has been added to every cycle and you just found it in time. If miraculously finding the thing Shepard needs in the nick of time actually bothers someone, he shouldn't even be able to get through ME1. How are you getting to thousands? I can't find a pic where we see hundreds of Reapers except for the ending cutscene of ME2. Every scene shows multiple Reapers dropping down and attacking a small city, and that's happening all over the each home world. Hundreds per world is a low ball estimate. And while i never did the math like themikefest did, they heavily implied this has been going on for a billion+years and a reaper every 50,000k adds up to a lot of damn reapers. As for finding the thing at the right time, my point wasn't the finding but the what is being found. I think finding a super space magic space gun less plausible than a sensor picking up a massive reaper invasion hiding for repairs in some small corner of the galaxy. Especially since I suspect they will need workers to do the fixing so they'd need to take over something.
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Post by Heimdall on Mar 23, 2018 20:55:02 GMT
So, what I would like see for a new Mass Effect game... Well, I’ll present a concept I call Mass Effect: Red Protocol (because I couldn’t think of a more generic espionage thriller name)
The idea is that this will be an espionage thriller style story taking place shortly after the the intro to ME2. A theft at a secret Alliance facility puts a dangerous and illegal McGuffin in the hands of a dangerous pirate consortium with ties to the Batarians.
You are an Operative (cause I like Serenity references) assigned a shiny new Normandy-class frigate modified for the purpose of Alliance Intelligence to hunt down the perpetrators and retrieve the McGuffin.
We will visit places we’ve heard of but never seen (I’ve always wanted to get a good look at Arcturus Station) as well as new locations. We could also run across character from the original trilogy between installments and even encounter Andromeda characters getting ready for departure.
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Post by tatann on Mar 23, 2018 21:46:53 GMT
So, what I would like see for a new Mass Effect game... Well, I’ll present a concept I call Mass Effect: Red Protocol (because I couldn’t think of a more generic espionage thriller name) The idea is that this will be an espionage thriller style story taking place shortly after the the intro to ME2. A theft at a secret Alliance facility puts a dangerous and illegal McGuffin in the hands of a dangerous pirate consortium with ties to the Batarians. You are an Operative (cause I like Serenity references) assigned a shiny new Normandy-class frigate modified for the purpose of Alliance Intelligence to hunt down the perpetrators and retrieve the McGuffin. We will visit places we’ve heard of but never seen (I’ve always wanted to get a good look at Arcturus Station) as well as new locations. We could also run across character from the original trilogy between installments and even encounter Andromeda characters getting ready for departure. So it's Alpha Protocol in space ?
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 23, 2018 21:50:43 GMT
Every scene shows multiple Reapers dropping down and attacking a small city, and that's happening all over the each home world. Hundreds per world is a low ball estimate. And while i never did the math like themikefest did, they heavily implied this has been going on for a billion+years and a reaper every 50,000k adds up to a lot of damn reapers. So you've got a sample size of.... two scenes, right? Menae can't prove your point since it's a major turian military base rather than a small city. This only works if you assume that what happened to Vancouver happened to every city on Earth simultaneously. That assumption has no basis, and is contradicted by multiple conversations and codex entries. This is just silly. No such sensor exists. Even if it did exist, knowing about the Reapers presence wouldn't matter, since the Citadel fleets still couldn't reach them. And workers would be easy enough to come by. Just find some pre-warp civilization and enslave them. Edit: of course, this judgement relies on baseline assumptions, like not wanting the Reapers to be total idiots and not wanting to completely ignore the existing rules for how tech works in the MEU. If someone doesn't care about these things, then he's got a lot more freedom in how to write an alternative version of the game, sure.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Mar 24, 2018 21:27:56 GMT
Every scene shows multiple Reapers dropping down and attacking a small city, and that's happening all over the each home world. Hundreds per world is a low ball estimate. And while i never did the math like themikefest did, they heavily implied this has been going on for a billion+years and a reaper every 50,000k adds up to a lot of damn reapers. So you've got a sample size of.... two scenes, right? Menae can't prove your point since it's a major turian military base rather than a small city. This only works if you assume that what happened to Vancouver happened to every city on Earth simultaneously. That assumption has no basis, and is contradicted by multiple conversations and codex entries. This is just silly. No such sensor exists. Even if it did exist, knowing about the Reapers presence wouldn't matter, since the Citadel fleets still couldn't reach them. And workers would be easy enough to come by. Just find some pre-warp civilization and enslave them. Edit: of course, this judgement relies on baseline assumptions, like not wanting the Reapers to be total idiots and not wanting to completely ignore the existing rules for how tech works in the MEU. If someone doesn't care about these things, then he's got a lot more freedom in how to write an alternative version of the game, sure. Boy this got heated.
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Post by lyq3r on Mar 25, 2018 15:52:23 GMT
The epitome of what I think of anything new Mass Effect related presented in the video:
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 26, 2018 3:39:31 GMT
The epitome of what I think of anything new Mass Effect related presented in the video: I wonder if Jack was there somewhere, maybe when she was with that cult. I mean, it is one of her sayings.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 26, 2018 4:29:47 GMT
The epitome of what I think of anything new Mass Effect related presented in the video: I wonder if Jack was there somewhere, maybe when she was with that cult. I mean, it is one of her sayings. Her saying that is a joke reference to how often it was said in ME1.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 26, 2018 8:03:41 GMT
I wonder if Jack was there somewhere, maybe when she was with that cult. I mean, it is one of her sayings. Her saying that is a joke reference to how often it was said in ME1. Sure, but it's fun to imagine that she ran with some of these people, like the biotic cultists or something.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Mar 26, 2018 8:23:08 GMT
The epitome of what I think of anything new Mass Effect related presented in the video: Even how much I love and adore ME1, this here is still really funny, and after MEA seeing those jogging and other animations here is like
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Post by Garo on Apr 3, 2018 12:07:58 GMT
UUuUuuu yes, it's time to speculate again! That was the most fun part of Andromeda
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 5, 2018 13:14:37 GMT
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Post by 10k on Apr 5, 2018 13:34:45 GMT
I cannot, NOT post this here Yeah I saw this. He has good Ideas, but I don't know about his RTS idea or the main character being any species.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 5, 2018 13:47:04 GMT
I cannot, NOT post this here Yeah I saw this. He has good Ideas, but I don't know about his RTS idea or the main character being any species. He's catering to his own sensibilities, as would most fans. this is also why BioWare always stresses that as writers, if you want to apply for a job with them you have to be able to work with other people's ideas as well as your own. If you come for a job interview with a laundry list of things you think should happen in Dragon Age 4 they'll send you home again.
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Post by izut on Apr 5, 2018 18:46:41 GMT
I cannot, NOT post this here The beam was impossible to miss so I'd rather say we could deal with Leviathan since they're free to re-enter the galaxy once again and we know they're not really other-races friendly. Add re-building the galaxy into the story and missions like re-awake or not Geth and EDI etc. In my canon it's super easy to bring them back - just "plug" them into the data core. Their bodies are "dead" but their data is not. EDI is Normandy in so many levels that it should be impossible for the ship to fly just like that at the end of ME3, after Destroy so EDI should've been already back, just not in "her body". And since Shepard is BW&EA's golden goose, they can put her/him as a protag once again since she/he was the one facing Leviathan in the first place and is the one responsible for the decision of what to do at the very end. Just let her/him heal at least a bit... and I need those blue children, ok? I seriously need them!!!There's also a way to literally connect Shep to Andromeda whenever BW decides to go back to MEA. Liara knew about the project. I can't not see Shep, being a spectre and not knowing about it too. She/he just had to know. And since we know Shep doesn't like to be the face of the press and a superhero, he/she may be simply tired of dealing with all of it and just say - let's go to Andromeda! Liara, being a nerd, would live it. And Shep would like it too - a new place, a new history. This way Shep doesn't even need to be a protag. They could make her/him a teacher, mentor, someone who helps the pathfinder through sharing a knowledge and experience. And since Ryder had some N7 training, they could actually go through it under Shep's supervision.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 5, 2018 19:02:16 GMT
I cannot, NOT post this here The beam was impossible to miss so I'd rather say we could deal with Leviathan since they're free to re-enter the galaxy once again and we know they're not really other-races friendly. Add re-building the galaxy into the story and missions like re-awake or not Geth and EDI etc. In my canon it's super easy to bring them back - just "plug" them into the data core. Their bodies are "dead" but their data is not. EDI is Normandy in so many levels that it should be impossible for the ship to fly just like that at the end of ME3, after Destroy so EDI should've been already back, just not in "her body". And since Shepard is BW&EA's golden goose, they can put her/him as a protag once again since she/he was the one facing Leviathan in the first place and is the one responsible for the decision of what to do at the very end. Just let her/him heal at least a bit... and I need those blue children, ok? I seriously need them!!!There's also a way to literally connect Shep to Andromeda whenever BW decides to go back to MEA. Liara knew about the project. I can't not see Shep, being a spectre and not knowing about it too. She/he just had to know. And since we know Shep doesn't like to be the face of the press and a superhero, he/she may be simply tired of dealing with all of it and just say - let's go to Andromeda! Liara, being a nerd, would live it. And Shep would like it too - a new place, a new history. This way Shep doesn't even need to be a protag. They could make her/him a teacher, mentor, someone who helps the pathfinder through sharing a knowledge and experience. And since Ryder had some N7 training, they could actually go through it under Shep's supervision. The whole idea he makes is based on the fact that there's a chance that not all relays are struck by the Crucible beam because there are these "primary" and "secondary relays" which is a possible thing the writers missed about the lore. I don't recall it either but I got that he made a rather longwinded argument about how this is plausible.
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Post by izut on Apr 5, 2018 19:05:05 GMT
The beam was impossible to miss so I'd rather say we could deal with Leviathan since they're free to re-enter the galaxy once again and we know they're not really other-races friendly. Add re-building the galaxy into the story and missions like re-awake or not Geth and EDI etc. In my canon it's super easy to bring them back - just "plug" them into the data core. Their bodies are "dead" but their data is not. EDI is Normandy in so many levels that it should be impossible for the ship to fly just like that at the end of ME3, after Destroy so EDI should've been already back, just not in "her body". And since Shepard is BW&EA's golden goose, they can put her/him as a protag once again since she/he was the one facing Leviathan in the first place and is the one responsible for the decision of what to do at the very end. Just let her/him heal at least a bit... and I need those blue children, ok? I seriously need them!!!There's also a way to literally connect Shep to Andromeda whenever BW decides to go back to MEA. Liara knew about the project. I can't not see Shep, being a spectre and not knowing about it too. She/he just had to know. And since we know Shep doesn't like to be the face of the press and a superhero, he/she may be simply tired of dealing with all of it and just say - let's go to Andromeda! Liara, being a nerd, would live it. And Shep would like it too - a new place, a new history. This way Shep doesn't even need to be a protag. They could make her/him a teacher, mentor, someone who helps the pathfinder through sharing a knowledge and experience. And since Ryder had some N7 training, they could actually go through it under Shep's supervision. The whole idea he makes is based on the fact that there's a chance that not all relays are struck by the Crucible beam because there are these "primary" and "secondary relays" which is a possible thing the writers missed about the lore. I don't recall it either but I got that he made a rather longwinded argument about how this is plausible. Which is a bull since we know the beam did go through all of the relays. The only way for the reapers to survive would be if some of them didn't enter the galaxy and were still in the dark space which is also not true. Whenever they invade, they do it full power.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 5, 2018 19:31:30 GMT
Which is a bull since we know the beam did go through all of the relays. How do you know it did? What about the relays that are doormant? Did the beam travel through those?
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Post by izut on Apr 5, 2018 19:42:31 GMT
Which is a bull since we know the beam did go through all of the relays. How do you know it did? What about the relays that are doormant? Did the beam travel through those? We've seen it on the map during the end. The beam went from relay to relay through the entire galaxy.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 5, 2018 20:06:48 GMT
We've seen it on the map during the end. The beam went from relay to relay through the entire galaxy. How many relays did you see on the map that sent the beam to another relay? From what I saw, it looks like the beam traveled through the relays that were used in the trilogy.
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Post by izut on Apr 5, 2018 20:36:32 GMT
We've seen it on the map during the end. The beam went from relay to relay through the entire galaxy. How many relays did you see on the map that sent the beam to another relay? From what I saw, it looks like the beam traveled through the relays that were used in the trilogy. I'm pretty sure there're more of them
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 5, 2018 22:42:52 GMT
Add re-building the galaxy into the story and missions like re-awake or not Geth and EDI etc. In my canon it's super easy to bring them back - just "plug" them into the data core. Their bodies are "dead" but their data is not. EDI is Normandy in so many levels that it should be impossible for the ship to fly just like that at the end of ME3, after Destroy so EDI should've been already back, just not in "her body". This is a blatant lore violation, at least for EDI. When a "blue box"is deactivated or destroyed, the personality vanishes. Reactivate the hardware and you get a new personality.... a new person. Geth use different technology, so this may not apply to them. Whether you care about that is a separate issue. Sounds like you want to undo choices, so why not lore too?
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 5, 2018 22:45:32 GMT
We've seen it on the map during the end. The beam went from relay to relay through the entire galaxy. How many relays did you see on the map that sent the beam to another relay? From what I saw, it looks like the beam traveled through the relays that were used in the trilogy. Would a secondary relay have even been visible on that scale? Doesn't matter anyway. If they wanted to retcon, they wouldn't let a trivial animation stand in their way. And if they didn't want to, the fact that someone could pretend that it wasn't a retcon wouldn't make any difference.
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