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Post by Iakus on Jul 1, 2021 13:30:00 GMT
The point I was trying to make though wasn't if the Reapers could do it (they obviously can travel incredible distances) but rather if they would see a reason to do so. I'm not good at programming, but to my understanding even a God-AI such as the Reapers couldn't deviate from their original programming... and if the instruction was to preserve life in the Milky Way they can't really have come to the conclusion that other galaxies had to be taken into account (as the AI would likely have come to the conclusion that they feasibly couldn't account for these as the task would become virtually impossible). Likely the programming was restricted to only account for the Milky Way, as anything else would just result in the AI crashing or just outputting gibberish (in my admittedly limited understanding at least). But if they are supposed to preserve life in the Milky Way, they have to also account for extragalactic threats as well. And as the Leviathans discovered, the Reaper programming actually accounted for WIDER interpretations than anticipated, not narrower.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 2, 2021 15:24:52 GMT
No cameos. Just Liara. No Grunt, no Wrex, no Samara, no Aria.
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Post by Iakus on Jul 2, 2021 15:48:34 GMT
No cameos. Just Liara. No Grunt, no Wrex, no Samara, no Aria. So LIara would be a major character, not just a cameo?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 2, 2021 15:52:04 GMT
No cameos. Just Liara. No Grunt, no Wrex, no Samara, no Aria. So LIara woul dbe a major character, not just a cameo? Yeah. Possibly squad member again. Again, everything is a rumour. Until confirmed by Bioware devs, or evidence to the contrary.
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Post by Iakus on Jul 2, 2021 22:50:20 GMT
So LIara woul dbe a major character, not just a cameo? Yeah. Possibly squad member again. Again, everything is a rumour. Until confirmed by Bioware devs, or evidence to the contrary.
Well, doesn't matter much to me either way. Because anything short of "ME3 didn't really happen" still makes this a no-buy for me. I REALLY don't need any more "The Shepard died for our sins"/RGB magic/Rian Johnson-style subverted expectations
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 2, 2021 23:12:10 GMT
Yeah. Possibly squad member again. Again, everything is a rumour. Until confirmed by Bioware devs, or evidence to the contrary.
Well, doesn't matter much to me either way. Because anything short of "ME3 didn't really happen" still makes this a no-buy for me. I REALLY don't need any more "The Shepard died for our sins"/RGB magic/Rian Johnson-style subverted expectations Like I said, I get the feeling that they're going to make "ME3 happened but sorta not like it did, but mostly like it did, so we can get rid of the parts we don't want". And Will Continue will be about it. I don't think they can do it without time travel and a sort length jump to the future will do that, where Liara won't share too much info, so as not to make the timeline too erratic, but mostly because we won't know what happened, so then we will go back, between ME2 and ME3 and we will team up with Liara to do our shit and leave on Ark 6, before the Reapers hit. That's the impression I got.
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Post by Iakus on Jul 2, 2021 23:18:48 GMT
Well, doesn't matter much to me either way. Because anything short of "ME3 didn't really happen" still makes this a no-buy for me. I REALLY don't need any more "The Shepard died for our sins"/RGB magic/Rian Johnson-style subverted expectations Like I said, I get the feeling that they're going to make "ME3 happened but sorta not like it did, but mostly like it did, so we can get rid of the parts we don't want". And Will Continue will be about it. I don't think they can do it without time travel and a sort length jump to the future will do that, where Liara won't share too much info, so as not to make the timeline too erratic, but mostly because we won't know what happened, so then we will go back, between ME2 and ME3 and we will team up with Liara to do our shit and leave on Ark 6, before the Reapers hit. That's the impression I got. Hey, if the Ryders can visit the World between Worlds and alter the timeline, I'll happily give the twins another shot...
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 2, 2021 23:21:40 GMT
Like I said, I get the feeling that they're going to make "ME3 happened but sorta not like it did, but mostly like it did, so we can get rid of the parts we don't want". And Will Continue will be about it. I don't think they can do it without time travel and a sort length jump to the future will do that, where Liara won't share too much info, so as not to make the timeline too erratic, but mostly because we won't know what happened, so then we will go back, between ME2 and ME3 and we will team up with Liara to do our shit and leave on Ark 6, before the Reapers hit. That's the impression I got. Hey, if the Ryders can visit the World between Worlds and alter the timeline, I'll happily give the twins another shot... There's no plan to bring Ryder back, at least currently, in effect. And from what I understand, Gary doesn't want the ME team to stray close to it. He might push the ME team further away from Andromeda.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 3, 2021 0:15:38 GMT
Hey, if the Ryders can visit the World between Worlds and alter the timeline, I'll happily give the twins another shot... There's no plan to bring Ryder back, at least currently, in effect. And from what I understand, Gary doesn't want the ME team to stray close to it. He might push the ME team further away from Andromeda. Fuck Gary.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 3, 2021 0:16:37 GMT
There's no plan to bring Ryder back, at least currently, in effect. And from what I understand, Gary doesn't want the ME team to stray close to it. He might push the ME team further away from Andromeda. Fuck Gary. I agree.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 3, 2021 0:24:55 GMT
Hey, if the Ryders can visit the World between Worlds and alter the timeline, I'll happily give the twins another shot... There's no plan to bring Ryder back, at least currently, in effect. And from what I understand, Gary doesn't want the ME team to stray close to it. He might push the ME team further away from Andromeda. I have no problem with what you posted. No reason to have little Ryder return and/or have another game in Andromeda . There's no plan to bring Ryder back, at least currently, in effect. And from what I understand, Gary doesn't want the ME team to stray close to it. He might push the ME team further away from Andromeda. Fuck Gary. Did you say the same to the DA team knowing the Inquisitor might not be the main character in the next DA game?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 3, 2021 0:42:11 GMT
Did you say the same to the DA team knowing the Inquisitor might not be the main character in the next DA game? Yes, though far more explicit.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jul 3, 2021 0:53:03 GMT
How about we not blame this Gary for things we as of yet don't know will or will not happen? Feels like a waste of energy if I'm going to be honest...
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Post by Element Zero on Jul 3, 2021 1:10:24 GMT
No cameos. Just Liara. No Grunt, no Wrex, no Samara, no Aria. According to Karpyshyn's novels, Aria was already over 1000 years old during the trilogy. Samara was "nearly 1000". We're probably safe with them. Grunt? He probably rules the New Krogan Empire with his Nakmor queen (born in Amdromeda, of course). The Krogan are now a people known for their gentle nature and love of plants. ☹
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Post by Phantom on Jul 3, 2021 1:58:50 GMT
Well If i was in charge of a MEA game, It would be an prequel that properly explains why Andromeda Initiative wasn't public knowledge and diving into the Mysterious benefactor's origins. Sara Ryder would kill a creepy sexual sadist out of self defense.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 3, 2021 3:04:36 GMT
Well If i was in charge of a MEA game, It would be an prequel that properly explains why Andromeda Initiative wasn't public knowledge and diving into the Mysterious benefactor's origins. Sara Ryder would kill a creepy sexual sadist out of self defense. If I was in charge, Conrad Verner would be the main character. While he was out in the galaxy righting the wrong, he came across some important information about some unknown group. Turns out it was the benefactor. But because no one took him seriously, he wasn't able to convince anyone about what he learned. In ME2, on Illium, when confronted by Shepard, he wanted to tell her/him about what he knew, but Shepard was busy with whatever he/she was doing. In a last ditch effort, he got a hold of his sister who was going to Andromeda. He tried to convince her to give the information he had to the one leading the sightseeing tour, but she said she wouldn't guarantee anything. Conrad thought it was better then nothing.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 3, 2021 4:13:07 GMT
How about we not blame this Gary for things we as of yet don't know will or will not happen? Feels like a waste of energy if I'm going to be honest... If I'm wrong, I'll gladly eat crow and apologize. After all if I'm wrong, I win.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Jul 3, 2021 14:37:01 GMT
So LIara woul dbe a major character, not just a cameo? Yeah. Possibly squad member again. Again, everything is a rumour. Until confirmed by Bioware devs, or evidence to the contrary.
Ohhh my gosh. But considering bioware's obsession with her i can see it.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Jul 3, 2021 14:46:10 GMT
Hey, if the Ryders can visit the World between Worlds and alter the timeline, I'll happily give the twins another shot... There's no plan to bring Ryder back, at least currently, in effect. And from what I understand, Gary doesn't want the ME team to stray close to it. He might push the ME team further away from Andromeda. They are gonna get a lot of flack from fans if it's gonna be that and the teaser already has set expectations, along with gamble's references to Andromeda. They did a big mistake showing a teaser that might not mean anything (i hope not) very early just for the sake that mass effect is back. We knew that way before the teaser.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 3, 2021 14:52:45 GMT
Yeah. Possibly squad member again. Again, everything is a rumour. Until confirmed by Bioware devs, or evidence to the contrary.
Ohhh my gosh. But considering bioware's obsession with her i can see it. I've got to add, these aren't things I want to be true. These are things I hear and, what's worse, is that it comes from people who interpret the things that they hear. But the interpretation seems plausible enough, to be convincingly true, because it fits Bioware's writing room MO.
It looks like Bioware are, on the one hand, overcorrecting again with the Andromeda backlash, but also unwilling to actually fix the decimated fanbase's problems with the franchise and opting for a 3rd direction, hoping this will fix everything, rather than further fragment what is already broken. And they'll keep doing that, until there is nothing left. Because, lets face it, they're not making new fans. Even if the LE sold 9 million copies in lifetime sales, it isn't a vote of confidence in Bioware's future products, but rather a confirmation that what was there, was better received, not a greenlight that "yeah, ME3 was no biggie, go on like normal", as they seem to interpret it as.
We'll just add more Liara. That fixes everything.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 3, 2021 15:12:47 GMT
They are gonna get a lot of flack from fans if it's gonna be that and the teaser already has set expectations, along with gamble's references to Andromeda. They did a big mistake showing a teaser that might not mean anything (i hope not) very early just for the sake that mass effect is back. We knew that way before the teaser. To preface it, Mike did say "well, maybe not, we'll see", or something to that extent. Meaning there will be nods to Andromeda, at the very least, but probably not full on Andromeda content. As in the Galaxy of Andromeda, not the Initiative itself. As, apparently, we'll be dealing with Ark 6. I mean, it was put there for a reason. You'll not mention Ark 6, stay in the Milky Way and not do anything with it. I mean, what's the point of referencing it at all, otherwise. Like I said, I can't wait till we discover "secret" Ark 420, a.k.a. the Blaze It, and our next protagonist, the occupant of cryopod 69. It's a great meme opportunity that the internet will love. All it will need, is a crossover with Fortnite.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 3, 2021 15:17:15 GMT
They are gonna get a lot of flack from fans if it's gonna be that and the teaser already has set expectations, along with gamble's references to Andromeda. They did a big mistake showing a teaser that might not mean anything (i hope not) very early just for the sake that mass effect is back. We knew that way before the teaser. To preface it, Mike did say "well, maybe not, we'll see", or something to that extent. Meaning there will be nods to Andromeda, at the very least, but probably not full on Andromeda content. As in the Galaxy of Andromeda, not the Initiative itself. As, apparently, we'll be dealing with Ark 6. I mean, it was put there for a reason. You'll not mention Ark 6, stay in the Milky Way and not do anything with it. I mean, what's the point of referencing it at all, otherwise.Like I said, I can't wait till we discover "secret" Ark 420, a.k.a. the Blaze It, and our next protagonist, the occupant of cryopod 69. It's a great meme opportunity that the internet will love. All it will need, is a crossover with Fortnite. To lead the MEA fans on and sucker them into buying ME5 in the hopes of it being connected to MEA.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Jul 3, 2021 18:40:42 GMT
They are gonna get a lot of flack from fans if it's gonna be that and the teaser already has set expectations, along with gamble's references to Andromeda. They did a big mistake showing a teaser that might not mean anything (i hope not) very early just for the sake that mass effect is back. We knew that way before the teaser. To preface it, Mike did say "well, maybe not, we'll see", or something to that extent. Meaning there will be nods to Andromeda, at the very least, but probably not full on Andromeda content. As in the Galaxy of Andromeda, not the Initiative itself. As, apparently, we'll be dealing with Ark 6. I mean, it was put there for a reason. You'll not mention Ark 6, stay in the Milky Way and not do anything with it. I mean, what's the point of referencing it at all, otherwise. Like I said, I can't wait till we discover "secret" Ark 420, a.k.a. the Blaze It, and our next protagonist, the occupant of cryopod 69. It's a great meme opportunity that the internet will love. All it will need, is a crossover with Fortnite. This will be exactly like Andromeda if it's something like that.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Jul 3, 2021 18:41:34 GMT
To preface it, Mike did say "well, maybe not, we'll see", or something to that extent. Meaning there will be nods to Andromeda, at the very least, but probably not full on Andromeda content. As in the Galaxy of Andromeda, not the Initiative itself. As, apparently, we'll be dealing with Ark 6. I mean, it was put there for a reason. You'll not mention Ark 6, stay in the Milky Way and not do anything with it. I mean, what's the point of referencing it at all, otherwise.Like I said, I can't wait till we discover "secret" Ark 420, a.k.a. the Blaze It, and our next protagonist, the occupant of cryopod 69. It's a great meme opportunity that the internet will love. All it will need, is a crossover with Fortnite. To lead the MEA fans on and sucker them into buying ME5 in the hopes of it being connected to MEA. And then the people will definitely buy their game
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 3, 2021 18:54:43 GMT
This will be exactly like Andromeda if it's something like that. I don't know what they point of trying to steer Bioware in a direction. They obviously do whatever the fuck they woke feeling like doing every day, to me. I don't see a good vision, just a mix of different things, different people like or feel like doing, on a per day basis, in a very vague and general direction, that is completely different from the previous one, while also not looking at the problems arisen from that previous one, while also being completely aware of them. I don't understand how they continue to operate this way.
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