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Post by N7Pathfinder on Jul 3, 2021 19:07:34 GMT
This will be exactly like Andromeda if it's something like that. I don't know what they point of trying to steer Bioware in a direction. They obviously do whatever the fuck they woke feeling like doing every day, to me. I don't see a good vision, just a mix of different things, different people like or feel like doing, on a per day basis, in a very vague and general direction, that is completely different from the previous one, while also not looking at the problems arisen from that previous one, while also being completely aware of them. I don't understand how they continue to operate this way. If they don't have a basic idea it won't go well for them.
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Post by eternalambiguity on Jul 4, 2021 2:08:39 GMT
To preface it, Mike did say "well, maybe not, we'll see", or something to that extent. Meaning there will be nods to Andromeda, at the very least, but probably not full on Andromeda content. As in the Galaxy of Andromeda, not the Initiative itself. As, apparently, we'll be dealing with Ark 6. I mean, it was put there for a reason. You'll not mention Ark 6, stay in the Milky Way and not do anything with it. I mean, what's the point of referencing it at all, otherwise.Like I said, I can't wait till we discover "secret" Ark 420, a.k.a. the Blaze It, and our next protagonist, the occupant of cryopod 69. It's a great meme opportunity that the internet will love. All it will need, is a crossover with Fortnite. To lead the MEA fans on and sucker them into buying ME5 in the hopes of it being connected to MEA. Why would anyone buy something in the "hopes" of it being something without finding out beforehand? Is anyone that bereft of common sense?
...never mind, I think I know the answer to that.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 4, 2021 3:24:00 GMT
To lead the MEA fans on and sucker them into buying ME5 in the hopes of it being connected to MEA. Why would anyone buy something in the "hopes" of it being something without finding out beforehand? Is anyone that bereft of common sense?
...never mind, I think I know the answer to that.
Also depends on marketing. After all we already have devs say that there’s connections and stuff like that. Bioware’s lied in marketing before to get purchases.
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Post by eternalambiguity on Jul 4, 2021 3:52:42 GMT
Why would anyone buy something in the "hopes" of it being something without finding out beforehand? Is anyone that bereft of common sense?
...never mind, I think I know the answer to that.
Also depends on marketing. After all we already have devs say that there’s connections and stuff like that. Bioware’s lied in marketing before to get purchases. Where did they lie in marketing? Apart from the whole ME3 ending thing which was obvious nonsense from the get-go.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Jul 4, 2021 15:08:47 GMT
Why would anyone buy something in the "hopes" of it being something without finding out beforehand? Is anyone that bereft of common sense?
...never mind, I think I know the answer to that.
Also depends on marketing. After all we already have devs say that there’s connections and stuff like that. Bioware’s lied in marketing before to get purchases. Oh really? Then if they lie what fits them is the outer world's 2 trailer if the teaser doesn't mean anything: "Now you see the hero but only the silhouette because we haven't finished the design, or the story. The only thing we've finished, is the title". (mass effect doesn't have one though )
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Post by themikefest on Jul 4, 2021 15:37:13 GMT
:"Now you see the hero but only the silhouette because we haven't finished the design, or the story. The only thing we've finished, is the title". (mass effect doesn't have one though ) But it gives the name of the main character, Will Continue. I wouldn't be surprised if the female name is Wilma Continue
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Post by mtheillusive on Jul 6, 2021 2:24:24 GMT
The Reapers themselves don't have to travel galaxies or exist outside the Milky Way. However, the "presence" of the Ai/Catalyst might.
Lets say there are multiple galaxies that the Catalyst visited. The Reapers are its theoretical solution to its hypothesis in the Milky Way. Perhaps the Jardann (which is somewhat similar to synthesis) are its solution to its hypothesis in the Andromeda Galaxy (which, if SAM is like EDI with Reaper code, makes COMPLETE sense as to why it can interface so easily).
And personally I feel that the energy cloud of doom has something to do with the crucible. Regardless of the ending (well, other than refuse lol), that type of energy being unleashed is going to leave some after effects on the galaxy(s), just like radiation fallout from a nuclear bomb. It might be immediate, it might be long term and something that doesn't really become apparent for hundreds of years...but SOMETHING is going to happen. For all we know that same energy cloud is also in the Milky Way....
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Post by Iakus on Jul 6, 2021 3:22:13 GMT
The Reapers themselves don't have to travel galaxies or exist outside the Milky Way. However, the "presence" of the Ai/Catalyst might. Lets say there are multiple galaxies that the Catalyst visited. The Reapers are its theoretical solution to its hypothesis in the Milky Way. Perhaps the Jardann (which is somewhat similar to synthesis) are its solution to its hypothesis in the Andromeda Galaxy (which, if SAM is like EDI with Reaper code, makes COMPLETE sense as to why it can interface so easily). And personally I feel that the energy cloud of doom has something to do with the crucible. Regardless of the ending (well, other than refuse lol), that type of energy being unleashed is going to leave some after effects on the galaxy(s), just like radiation fallout from a nuclear bomb. It might be immediate, it might be long term and something that doesn't really become apparent for hundreds of years...but SOMETHING is going to happen. For all we know that same energy cloud is also in the Milky Way.... I like the idea. But let's face it, Andromeda and everything in it was an *sspull by Bioware as they tried to run as fast and as hard from the mess they made in the Milky Way as possible.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 6, 2021 11:36:39 GMT
The Reapers themselves don't have to travel galaxies or exist outside the Milky Way. However, the "presence" of the Ai/Catalyst might. What if a reaper did travel to Andromeda? This is something I've posted before. A reaper is sent to Andromeda to study. Something happens to the reaper causing it to crash into a nearby planet. The kett send scouts to the Heleus cluster to study before sending the Archon. These scouts find a giant looking object. It turns out to be the reaper. Realizing it has tech they never seen before, they decide to bring the unknown whatever back to their homeworld. Over time, the kett are indoctrinated. Eventually Archon is sent to the Heleus cluster to start exalting any species found. I would be curious how father Ryder was able to upload reaper code into the sam implant? Better yet, where did he, or was it the benefactor, get the reaper code? If not, I would be curious where Alec or the benefactor found the technology to have the sam be similar to edi. You mean the scourge? If that's the case, the wave had no effect on the ships? Or did it? That wave would have to be very powerful to be able to cause the scourge. Why I say that? Look at low ems. The player sees Earth being scorched yet the planet the SR2 crashes on is still in good condition. Is it because the wave lost some it's effect? Is so, then I don't see it causing the scourge.
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Post by Iakus on Jul 6, 2021 14:13:51 GMT
The Reapers themselves don't have to travel galaxies or exist outside the Milky Way. However, the "presence" of the Ai/Catalyst might. What if a reaper did travel to Andromeda? This is something I've posted before. A reaper is sent to Andromeda to study. Something happens to the reaper causing it to crash into a nearby planet. The kett send scouts to the Heleus cluster to study before sending the Archon. These scouts find a giant looking object. It turns out to be the reaper. Realizing it has tech they never seen before, they decide to bring the unknown whatever back to their homeworld. Over time, the kett are indoctrinated. Eventually Archon is sent to the Heleus cluster to start exalting any species found. I would be curious how father Ryder was able to upload reaper code into the sam implant? Better yet, where did he, or was it the benefactor, get the reaper code? If not, I would be curious where Alec or the benefactor found the technology to have the sam be similar to edi. You mean the scourge? If that's the case, the wave had no effect on the ships? Or did it? That wave would have to be very powerful to be able to cause the scourge. Why I say that? Look at low ems. The player sees Earth being scorched yet the planet the SR2 crashes on is still in good condition. Is it because the wave lost some it's effect? Is so, then I don't see it causing the scourge. An interesting thought, but the exaltation process seems to keep the kett completely organic. I wonder how father Ryder OR the twins would feel about having Reaper code swimming around in their brains? As far as we've noted the Scourge is an inactive, if destructive-if-contacted force that specifically targets Remtech and nothing else.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jul 6, 2021 16:30:19 GMT
So now there are RUMORS that BioWare will bring Shepard back like Captain America (aka being frozen in ice for years) to fight again. As much as I love the MCU version of Captain America that worked I'm not sure it would work here because you will have to do a very controversial story that Marvel Comics tried with Spider-Man in the 90s the infamous Spider-Man: The Clone Saga (google it) and a story so convoluted, stupid, and downright insulting that it ruined Spider-Man for years until JMS was hired to save the character. The only way I can see that working is that the Shepard that woke up at Project Lazarus was a clone and that this will be the return of the one true "real" Shepard from ME1 it would bypass much of the endings and reset Shepard back to almost square one and would also mean that the Shepard in ME2 and ME3 was a clone and it that stupid shit didn't work for Spider-Man.
I would rather take a shitty MEA2 over that kind of drek no matter how polished it is it's still drek. IMHO there are some sci-fi concepts like frozen in ice, clones, time travel, and multiverse variants work once or when they're used very sparingly and/or very creatively, but when used like this they come off as just bad pandering fan service that results in bad pandering fan service crap that no one will like and will just piss away any goodwill that ME:LE got you back. So pardon me if I'm not into characters returning via frozen in ice, clones, time travel, or multiverse variants because Marvel and especially DC have just made those kind of stories basically an old joke that wasn't ever all that funny to begin with.
BioWare should just do a remake of ME1 (like in the same vein as Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3, and/or Final Fantasy VII: Remake) a direct sequel to MEA, or leave it on ice.
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Post by mtheillusive on Jul 6, 2021 19:12:58 GMT
The Reapers themselves don't have to travel galaxies or exist outside the Milky Way. However, the "presence" of the Ai/Catalyst might. What if a reaper did travel to Andromeda? This is something I've posted before. A reaper is sent to Andromeda to study. Something happens to the reaper causing it to crash into a nearby planet. The kett send scouts to the Heleus cluster to study before sending the Archon. These scouts find a giant looking object. It turns out to be the reaper. Realizing it has tech they never seen before, they decide to bring the unknown whatever back to their homeworld. Over time, the kett are indoctrinated. Eventually Archon is sent to the Heleus cluster to start exalting any species found. I would be curious how father Ryder was able to upload reaper code into the sam implant? Better yet, where did he, or was it the benefactor, get the reaper code? If not, I would be curious where Alec or the benefactor found the technology to have the sam be similar to edi. You mean the scourge? If that's the case, the wave had no effect on the ships? Or did it? That wave would have to be very powerful to be able to cause the scourge. Why I say that? Look at low ems. The player sees Earth being scorched yet the planet the SR2 crashes on is still in good condition. Is it because the wave lost some it's effect? Is so, then I don't see it causing the scourge. I do like the idea of a single Reaper going to Andromeda and it being discovered by the Kett. The Kett are fully against AI though, so are they indoctrinated? Or was it a thing where they said hey, we'll do all the genetic harvesting around here before any more of these machines show up? And...perhaps both scenarios are possible? Where a Reaper was sent to investigate/check on the Catalyst created Jardann, and along the way something happens, and it's derelict self is found by the Kett? There's ALOT of possibilities! If I remember correctly, SAM was partially created by illegal tech given to Alec from the Shadow Broker. And personally I still think that Cerberus is involved and that Harper is his daughter lol. I remember when, in the epilogue, if you read the logs on how some group is trying to make the Remnant version of Subject Zero, and Cora is nearby all like..."yea just working with the science team...chea".... My headcannon is she knows a lot more than what she acts like. There's a reason she is ALWAYS standing next to the SR2 model in the Pathfinder headquaters half the time.... The wave from the crucible devastated Earth on low EMS, much like the scourge did to all the planets in its vicinity. The ships that got hurt though were generally only the Remnant ships, and if it just happen to be tech associated with the Catalyst...well...
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Post by mtheillusive on Jul 6, 2021 19:23:44 GMT
So now there are RUMORS that BioWare will bring Shepard back like Captain America (aka being frozen in ice for years) to fight again. As much as I love the MCU version of Captain America that worked I'm not sure it would work here because you will have to do a very controversial story that Marvel Comics tried with Spider-Man in the 90s the infamous Spider-Man: The Clone Saga (google it) and a story so convoluted, stupid, and downright insulting that it ruined Spider-Man for years until JMS was hired to save the character. The only way I can see that working is that the Shepard that woke up at Project Lazarus was a clone and that this will be the return of the one true "real" Shepard from ME1 it would bypass much of the endings and reset Shepard back to almost square one and would also mean that the Shepard in ME2 and ME3 was a clone and it that stupid shit didn't work for Spider-Man.
I would rather take a shitty MEA2 over that kind of drek no matter how polished it is it's still drek. IMHO there are some sci-fi concepts like frozen in ice, clones, time travel, and multiverse variants work once or when they're used very sparingly and/or very creatively, but when used like this they come off as just bad pandering fan service that results in bad pandering fan service crap that no one will like and will just piss away any goodwill that ME:LE got you back. So pardon me if I'm not into characters returning via frozen in ice, clones, time travel, or multiverse variants because Marvel and especially DC have just made those kind of stories basically an old joke that wasn't ever all that funny to begin with.
BioWare should just do a remake of ME1 (like in the same vein as Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3, and/or Final Fantasy VII: Remake) a direct sequel to MEA, or leave it on ice.
I heard about that. Talk about PERMANETLY killing the fanbase lol When I first heard about it I assumed that they meant that, with a high EMS Destroy, Shepard falls back to Earth (cause, that's the only nearby planet....and the only nearby planet with a breathable atmosphere....just saying... ), survives atmospheric re-entry with no functional armor, and all his Cerberus upgrades kept him alive somehow, before being frozen in ice like Captain America for decades or centuries (perhaps the North or South Pole?), and then is found by Liara, who sees his helmet even though it got annihilated in London. Sounds astronomically stupid? Well...it is (even crazier than ME2! And thats saying something) But yall said yall want big bad Shepard back.... You sure about that? I wasn't able to see the article on FB btw. I'm assuming this is the same one? : gamerant.com/mass-effect-4-marvel-captain-america-similarities/
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 6, 2021 20:17:25 GMT
So now there are RUMORS that BioWare will bring Shepard back like Captain America (aka being frozen in ice for years) to fight again. I'm not in the mood to have "young" Shepard return to find their crew aged or dead, especially if it involves aged LIs, so as to introduce a new crew that won't live up to it and because some Shepards would just remain faithful to their LIs. Also, the clone idea and the "one" Shepard. As I've said, Shepard should only return as a vehicle for the old crew's return, not in an isolated manner. It doesn't rid you of a new cast of characters that will just be rejected again.
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Post by Iakus on Jul 6, 2021 20:35:45 GMT
So now there are RUMORS that BioWare will bring Shepard back like Captain America (aka being frozen in ice for years) to fight again. As much as I love the MCU version of Captain America that worked I'm not sure it would work here because you will have to do a very controversial story that Marvel Comics tried with Spider-Man in the 90s the infamous Spider-Man: The Clone Saga (google it) and a story so convoluted, stupid, and downright insulting that it ruined Spider-Man for years until JMS was hired to save the character. The only way I can see that working is that the Shepard that woke up at Project Lazarus was a clone and that this will be the return of the one true "real" Shepard from ME1 it would bypass much of the endings and reset Shepard back to almost square one and would also mean that the Shepard in ME2 and ME3 was a clone and it that stupid shit didn't work for Spider-Man.
I would rather take a shitty MEA2 over that kind of drek no matter how polished it is it's still drek. IMHO there are some sci-fi concepts like frozen in ice, clones, time travel, and multiverse variants work once or when they're used very sparingly and/or very creatively, but when used like this they come off as just bad pandering fan service that results in bad pandering fan service crap that no one will like and will just piss away any goodwill that ME:LE got you back. So pardon me if I'm not into characters returning via frozen in ice, clones, time travel, or multiverse variants because Marvel and especially DC have just made those kind of stories basically an old joke that wasn't ever all that funny to begin with.
BioWare should just do a remake of ME1 (like in the same vein as Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3, and/or Final Fantasy VII: Remake) a direct sequel to MEA, or leave it on ice.
I heard about that. Talk about PERMANETLY killing the fanbase lol When I first heard about it I assumed that they meant that, with a high EMS Destroy, Shepard falls back to Earth (cause, that's the only nearby planet....and the only nearby planet with a breathable atmosphere....just saying... ), survives atmospheric re-entry with no functional armor, and all his Cerberus upgrades kept him alive somehow, before being frozen in ice like Captain America for decades or centuries (perhaps the North or South Pole?), and then is found by Liara, who sees his helmet even though it got annihilated in London. Sounds astronomically stupid? Well...it is (even crazier than ME2! And thats saying something) But yall said yall want big bad Shepard back.... You sure about that? I wasn't able to see the article on FB btw. I'm assuming this is the same one? : gamerant.com/mass-effect-4-marvel-captain-america-similarities/ Hell, it's not like Shepard hasn't been brought back from atmospheric reentry of a planet while wearing damaged armor before...
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 6, 2021 21:25:25 GMT
I heard about that. Talk about PERMANETLY killing the fanbase lol When I first heard about it I assumed that they meant that, with a high EMS Destroy, Shepard falls back to Earth (cause, that's the only nearby planet....and the only nearby planet with a breathable atmosphere....just saying... ), survives atmospheric re-entry with no functional armor, and all his Cerberus upgrades kept him alive somehow, before being frozen in ice like Captain America for decades or centuries (perhaps the North or South Pole?), and then is found by Liara, who sees his helmet even though it got annihilated in London. Sounds astronomically stupid? Well...it is (even crazier than ME2! And thats saying something) But yall said yall want big bad Shepard back.... You sure about that? I wasn't able to see the article on FB btw. I'm assuming this is the same one? : gamerant.com/mass-effect-4-marvel-captain-america-similarities/Hell, it's not like Shepard hasn't been brought back from atmospheric reentry of a planet while wearing damaged armor before... Yeah, but imagine the prologue Nurse: Commander Shepard? You have been encased in ice for 600 years. I'm afraid all your friends are dead. Shepard: Fuck. Nurse: Except Liara. Shepard: FUCK!
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Post by Iakus on Jul 6, 2021 21:33:04 GMT
Hell, it's not like Shepard hasn't been brought back from atmospheric reentry of a planet while wearing damaged armor before... Yeah, but imagine the prologue Nurse: Commander Shepard? You have been encased in ice for 600 years. I'm afraid all your friends are dead. Shepard: Fuck. Nurse: Except Liara. Shepard: FUCK!
"When they brought you in, you were nothing but-" "'Meat and tubes' Yeah yeah, I've heard it before"
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jul 6, 2021 23:31:07 GMT
Yeah, but imagine the prologue Nurse: Commander Shepard? You have been encased in ice for 600 years. I'm afraid all your friends are dead. Shepard: Fuck. Nurse: Except Liara. Shepard: FUCK! I like Liara, but man you made me LOL I really don't want more Shepard other than mentions (unless it's some kind of expansion on the ending of ME3). Aside from the issue about dead companions I really feel their story has run its course, and digging them up (literally?) would only reopen a lot of old wounds (not to mention people would likely not accept any new story to be as good as the old rose-tinted one from the OT). So I'm with Petrakus on this one.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jul 7, 2021 18:01:33 GMT
I think the next game should give the option of some less appealing hairstyles, you should have the option of a mullet for example or imagine having a player character with Joe Exotic's hair MacGyver max mullet plz!
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Post by turianlannister on Jul 7, 2021 18:42:54 GMT
I think the next game should give the option of some less appealing hairstyles, you should have the option of a mullet for example or imagine having a player character with Joe Exotic's hair MacGyver max mullet plz! That reminds me I saw a photoshop of Garrus with MacGyver's hair, it was captioned MacGarrus
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Post by turianlannister on Jul 7, 2021 20:53:51 GMT
Found it
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Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
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Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 7, 2021 22:25:51 GMT
I really don't want more Shepard other than mentions (unless it's some kind of expansion on the ending of ME3). Aside from the issue about dead companions I really feel their story has run its course, and digging them up (literally?) would only reopen a lot of old wounds (not to mention people would likely not accept any new story to be as good as the old rose-tinted one from the OT). So I'm with Petrakus on this one. ME3's endings killed my interest in the setting and it is, frankly, too bleak to think about it. Anything else that happens, that doesn't undo it and in a substantial way, Bioware can have my blessing in making it, but I don't even want to know it exists.
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