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Post by natetrace on Jul 13, 2021 1:15:13 GMT
I have found it interesting that since this new game was announced (and the legendary edition came out) how many have called for or written articles over player choice and the destroy ending being canon. Perhaps it is, maybe it isn’t, but I do find the push for lack of choice in a game about your choices fascinating. I have also seen talk about cutting more renegade options from a future title, such as leaving David in Overlord or just not having that kind of mission at all.
I am a bit worried over how much of a push I am seeing for less choice. There was so much uproar over the lack of choice in 3s finale, and now that doesn’t seem to matter. BioWare have relegated less used paths to Shepards email before, but this would be bigger. Just something I’ve noticed.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Jul 15, 2021 16:27:45 GMT
Ahem. Well it looks like Michael Gamble just tweeted this!
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 15, 2021 18:22:58 GMT
Ahem. Well it looks like Michael Gamble just tweeted this! Snifff Smells like Ark 6.
Edit: Anyway, it wasn't tweeted by Mike.
It was retweeted by Mike
Which isn't the same.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2021 18:43:43 GMT
*sniff* Smells like Teen Spirit *sniff* Smells like money [one of the bases where I was stationed, there was a hog farm off the south end of the runway ... folks would complain when the wind came from that direction ... Billy Mack P ... one of the folks I flew with (who came from a ranch background) would stick his nose up in the air, sniff and say, "smells like money"] Sasha: *sniff* Sasha: you humans are silly, that just smells like your monitor
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 15, 2021 18:50:38 GMT
[one of the bases where I was stationed, there was a hog farm off the south end of the runway We didn't have a runway, but we did have a hog farm and it smelled, woo, did it smell. I can still remember that summer I was stationed there, as the temperature hit 51C in the sun and I was on duty right next to it. Mmm-mmm. Smells like momma's gravy, it does. Anyway, the armour looks very Intitiative-ish and I'm sure that Ark 6 was not referenced in that trailer for shits and giggles. Which is why I say our next protagonist, is some nobody from Ark 6. Which makes Mike's other tweet, about being able to tell who the person standing in front of the Mudskipper is, in the Will Continue trailer, entirely pointless. It's some guy we don't know from Ark 6. Great revelation!
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Jul 15, 2021 18:55:01 GMT
It seems this photo was taken back in 2018. It's not something official but the hints are there.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 15, 2021 19:25:53 GMT
It seems this photo was taken back in 2018. It's not something official but the hints are there. Actually, no. It's just Mike liking some art.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jul 15, 2021 20:15:13 GMT
Speaking of something completely different, I'd love to have the composer for Loki do the music if they want to use different composers, holy damn those were some good soundtracks!
And if you want to see more...
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Jul 15, 2021 20:34:59 GMT
Speaking of something completely different, I'd love to have the composer for Loki do the music if they want to use different composers, holy damn those were some good soundtracks! And if you want to see more... There is a possibility Benjamin Wallfisch (blade runner 2049) might do it. He is the one who compose the teaser music.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 15, 2021 23:11:09 GMT
It seems this photo was taken back in 2018. It's not something official but the hints are there. Actually, no. It's just Mike liking some art. Is that according to your "sources?"
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 15, 2021 23:26:35 GMT
Actually, no. It's just Mike liking some art. Is that according to your "sources?" To quote myself Ahem. Well it looks like Michael Gamble just tweeted this! Snifff Smells like Ark 6. Edit: Anyway, it wasn't tweeted by Mike.
It was retweeted by Mike
Which isn't the same.
So, this Archillect thing is a bot, basically, that reposts pictures from the internet and as N7Pathfinder said, this is a pic from 2018, so this is entirely not anything to do with Will Continue. It's just Mike liking some art. I'm sure Mike has liked Trilogy stuff as well, in the meantime and I wouldn't take those as meaning that Will Continue is a direct sequel to ME3. Chances are, he's liked more Trilogy art than Andromeda art, simply because there is more Trilogy art out there, that chances are he's liked more pieces that come from that. Not everything is an encoded message and even then, they would not be giving any clues at to Will Continue, until either some specific thing about ME, or Bioware making an announcement about their absence from some event, to counter the negative effect of their absence. Like they did with EA Play and the DA4 art they posted.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Jul 16, 2021 0:01:26 GMT
Is that according to your "sources?" To quote myself Snifff Smells like Ark 6. Edit: Anyway, it wasn't tweeted by Mike.
It was retweeted by Mike
Which isn't the same.
So, this Archillect thing is a bot, basically, that reposts pictures from the internet and as N7Pathfinder said, this is a pic from 2018, so this is entirely not anything to do with Will Continue. It's just Mike liking some art. I'm sure Mike has liked Trilogy stuff as well, in the meantime and I wouldn't take those as meaning that Will Continue is a direct sequel to ME3. Chances are, he's liked more Trilogy art than Andromeda art, simply because there is more Trilogy art out there, that chances are he's liked more pieces that come from that. Not everything is an encoded message and even then, they would not be giving any clues at to Will Continue, until either some specific thing about ME, or Bioware making an announcement about their absence from some event, to counter the negative effect of their absence. Like they did with EA Play and the DA4 art they posted. While it might not mean something there are teases, i take this as a tease too. It's a bot but it's weird posting it a few days before ea play... Gamble might post an art since we won't see anything before or after the show or maybe not, whatever that art may be.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 16, 2021 1:51:38 GMT
To quote myself So, this Archillect thing is a bot, basically, that reposts pictures from the internet and as N7Pathfinder said, this is a pic from 2018, so this is entirely not anything to do with Will Continue. It's just Mike liking some art. I'm sure Mike has liked Trilogy stuff as well, in the meantime and I wouldn't take those as meaning that Will Continue is a direct sequel to ME3. Chances are, he's liked more Trilogy art than Andromeda art, simply because there is more Trilogy art out there, that chances are he's liked more pieces that come from that. Not everything is an encoded message and even then, they would not be giving any clues at to Will Continue, until either some specific thing about ME, or Bioware making an announcement about their absence from some event, to counter the negative effect of their absence. Like they did with EA Play and the DA4 art they posted. While it might not mean something there are teases, i take this as a tease too. It's a bot but it's weird posting it a few days before ea play... Gamble might post an art since we won't see anything before or after the show or maybe not, whatever that art may be. I'm sorry, this isn't vibing with me. The idea is that Mike is working on an Andromeda sequel and he is going to hint it by liking and retweeting a post from a bot that randomly reposts art from video games, which happen to coincide on a day close to EA Play. Is this what Mike was banking on, to give his hint? I mean, it's possible, but the coincidence of such an occurrence to be intentional, instead of just incidental, would rank astronomically low.
To put it another way, it's like the creator of a race of synthetic abominations, residing in the same room as the kill switch to its existence, which it gladly explains to you in detail, because you'd have no idea how to operate it otherwise. Why? Why would you choose to do something in such a contrived way? What purpose does it serve? And even as a tease, why not post a picture of ME:A yourself, instead of relying on a bot, to randomly pick a picture? What kind of person operates, under such a train of thought? I'd have said the same fucking thing, if it showed Sheploo next to Miranda and Jack. If this is a tease, it is the most ass backward way of going about it. It's just a retweet of something he thought was cool. People, generally, operate this way. This is something that even Moriarty from Sherlock Holmes wouldn't do. It's like, if a bot that posted guns, posted my favourite rifle, which I don't have, because I don't like guns, and because I liked and retweeted it, it means that I intend to assassinate the PotUS. It's a tiny bit of a stretch.
tl;dr you're reading too much into it.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 16, 2021 2:56:15 GMT
I have found it interesting that since this new game was announced (and the legendary edition came out) how many have called for or written articles over player choice and the destroy ending being canon. Perhaps it is, maybe it isn’t, but I do find the push for lack of choice in a game about your choices fascinating. I have also seen talk about cutting more renegade options from a future title, such as leaving David in Overlord or just not having that kind of mission at all. I am a bit worried over how much of a push I am seeing for less choice. There was so much uproar over the lack of choice in 3s finale, and now that doesn’t seem to matter. BioWare have relegated less used paths to Shepards email before, but this would be bigger. Just something I’ve noticed. Well, considering that the ending choices of ME3 are so wide-sweeping across the galaxy, it would seem logical that any future setting would have to establish a few things as being fixed events in order to function narratively, even if it involves a few retcons to sweep the more problematic elements under the rug. The prospect of BioWare actually investing into the assets and word budget to actually make 3 alternate scenarios that sum up to more than just flavor dialogue just doesn’t seem feasible, especially when looking at how limited choices worked even within the trilogy itself. Far as I can tell, “good writing” seems to be the most common catch-all solution, but that’s just not good enough. I think people have been tricked into thinking that renegade and paragon are meaningful in and of themselves. The choice to leave David with Cerberus would still exist without it. Pushing the merc out the window, or setting the Weyrloc krogan on fire can all exist entirely independent of some kind of personality points system. Do we really need color coding to know the impact of our words or action?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 22, 2021 18:25:46 GMT
"No plans for a remake" Meaning it was considered at some point, but decided against it. Might change, depending on Will Continue's reception. For the next title, that is.
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Post by The Elder King on Jul 22, 2021 19:30:19 GMT
"No plans for a remake" Meaning it was considered at some point, but decided against it. Might change, depending on Will Continue's reception. For the next title, that is. Remake of what, ME?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 22, 2021 19:33:01 GMT
"No plans for a remake" Meaning it was considered at some point, but decided against it. Might change, depending on Will Continue's reception. For the next title, that is. Remake of what, ME? Exactly.
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Post by The Elder King on Jul 22, 2021 19:38:23 GMT
Got it. I said numerous times that I’d actually be interested in a full remake of the trilogy. But people should be flexible in keeping those things in mind: 1) It wouldn’t be released all at once. It’ll be like the original trilogy or FF VII remake. 2) Certain plots and characters could be changed, extended or eliminated. And there are good chances a lot of the original VAs won’t come back (for example, Miranda would definitely have a new VA). Although Hale and Meer would probably be back. I wouldn’t mind all of the above, but I think for a lot of people the risks might not be worth it.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 22, 2021 19:48:37 GMT
Got it. I said numerous times that I’d actually be interested in a full remake of the trilogy. But people should be flexible in keeping those things in mind: 1) It wouldn’t be released all at once. It’ll be like the original trilogy or FF VII remake. 2) Certain plots and characters could be changed, extended or eliminated. And there are good chances a lot of the original VAs won’t come back (for example, Miranda would definitely have a new VA). Although Hale and Meer would probably be back. I wouldn’t mind all of the above, but I think for a lot of people the risks might not be worth it. Without the original cast, bar Robin Sachs and characters, I am not coming back. I'd rather stick with the originals.
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Post by The Elder King on Jul 22, 2021 19:54:05 GMT
Got it. I said numerous times that I’d actually be interested in a full remake of the trilogy. But people should be flexible in keeping those things in mind: 1) It wouldn’t be released all at once. It’ll be like the original trilogy or FF VII remake. 2) Certain plots and characters could be changed, extended or eliminated. And there are good chances a lot of the original VAs won’t come back (for example, Miranda would definitely have a new VA). Although Hale and Meer would probably be back. I wouldn’t mind all of the above, but I think for a lot of people the risks might not be worth it. Without the original cast, bar Robin Sachs and characters, I am not coming back. I'd rather stick with the originals. I know. But it’s going to be hard to get the whole cast back. Aside issues due to scheduling and other works, a few might not want to come back. Even more so considering that in theory any conversations for a remake that would span at least 7-8 years of development, are going to be held after NME’s release.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 22, 2021 19:58:11 GMT
Without the original cast, bar Robin Sachs and characters, I am not coming back. I'd rather stick with the originals. I know. But it’s going to be hard to get the whole cast back. Aside issues due to scheduling and other works, a few might not want to come back. Even more so considering that in theory any conversations for a remake that would span at least 7-8 years of development, are going to be held after NME’s release. Even the public's investment in Will Continue is on thin ice, the moment they start seeing unfamiliar faces.
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Post by The Elder King on Jul 22, 2021 20:06:09 GMT
I know. But it’s going to be hard to get the whole cast back. Aside issues due to scheduling and other works, a few might not want to come back. Even more so considering that in theory any conversations for a remake that would span at least 7-8 years of development, are going to be held after NME’s release. Even the public's investment in Will Continue is on thin ice, the moment they start seeing unfamiliar faces. I don't agree completely. I don't think (a lot of) people are expecting every single character from the OT to be back, or that no new character will be introduced. I do agree howewer that a lot of people will be disappointed after realizing that the basically everyone except Liara (I still think it's dumb, even in this scenario, to not have Grunt back, though) isn't going to be present. But that's on Bioware, as the teaser was obviously going to make people believe NME is a straight out sequel, expecially with the N7 reference. I don't think that this necessarily means NME is doomed, but we already discussed this several times, so we'll have to agree to disagree.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 22, 2021 20:09:54 GMT
I don't think that this necessarily means NME is doomed, but we already discussed this several times, so we'll have to agree to disagree. Do you really think this won't rub people the wrong way?
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Post by The Elder King on Jul 22, 2021 20:19:43 GMT
I don't think that this necessarily means NME is doomed, but we already discussed this several times, so we'll have to agree to disagree. Do you really think this won't rub people the wrong way? I said right before that sentence that people are going to end up disappointed when they'll realize only Liara is back. All I'm saying is that NME not being a straight sequel of MET doesn't mean it'll necessarily fail. Not being clear on the scope of the game, and expecially the protagonist, is definitely going to make it harder. I mean, a new protagonist is going to disappoint most likely the majority of people that is interested in ME, given that there are also people wanting Ryder to come back (even if I think the number is probably smaller).
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 22, 2021 20:24:03 GMT
Do you really think this won't rub people the wrong way? I said right before that sentence that people are going to end up disappointed when they'll realize only Liara is back. All I'm saying is that NME not being a straight sequel of MET doesn't mean it'd necessarily fail. Not being clear on the scope of the game, and expecially the protagonist, is definitely going to make it harder. I mean, a new protagonist is going to disappoint most likely the majority of people that is interested in ME, given that there are also people wanting Ryder to come back (even if I think the number is probably smaller). I agree it's not the reason why it's going to fail, but it will fail. It's going to fail because Bioware can't produce a good replacement and even as any new crew would be compared to the previous one unfavourably so, that even a good one would have a hard time, ME3 made it very difficult to move on, that the rejection of any new crew is a certainty, at this point. In addition to a complete lack of public trust in general, in the face of Bioware. Even the LE is bugged as hell, with bugs that existed in the previous games being ten times more prevalent now. It's a guarantee to satisfy no one.
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