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Post by griffith82 on May 2, 2018 22:55:33 GMT
Looks like Amazon UK has the cover art for the Annihilation novel, also another possible push back on the release date to September 30th 2018 More pushbacks? FFS, it's just the story of the Quarian ark, not the entire trilogy novelized. Yeah it’s mostly EA my guess. Pushing it back.
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Post by Ahriman on May 3, 2018 10:39:15 GMT
So any news, updates, or crumbs of information? Looks like Amazon UK has the cover art for the Annihilation novel, also another possible push back on the release date to September 30th 2018 At least this time they actually bothered with proper cover art instead of 15 minutes photoshop skill. Whether it's june or september, it's gonna be interesting date. Last MEA material - kind of a milestone, don't you think?
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Post by griffith82 on May 3, 2018 14:39:43 GMT
Looks like Amazon UK has the cover art for the Annihilation novel, also another possible push back on the release date to September 30th 2018 At least this time they actually bothered with proper cover art instead of 15 minutes photoshop skill. Whether it's june or september, it's gonna be interesting date. Last MEA material - kind of a milestone, don't you think?
A very sad one. I hope it’s not the last we hear of Andromeda.
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Post by Ahriman on May 3, 2018 15:15:39 GMT
At least this time they actually bothered with proper cover art instead of 15 minutes photoshop skill. Whether it's june or september, it's gonna be interesting date. Last MEA material - kind of a milestone, don't you think?
A very sad one. I hope it’s not the last we hear of Andromeda. If I were some EA exec I'd say comissioning more books/comics would be a worthy investment to imitate franchise's life and give it some visibility in news. Thankfully I'm not EA exec and this book might be the last ME material for the next five years or more. And that's the worst part about it, it will never be officially finished.
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Post by griffith82 on May 3, 2018 15:20:56 GMT
A very sad one. I hope it’s not the last we hear of Andromeda. If I were some EA exec I'd say comissioning more books/comics would be a worthy investment to imitate franchise's life and give it some visibility in news. Thankfully I'm not EA exec and this book might be the last ME material for the next five years or more. And that's the worst part about it, it will never be officially finished. I’m not counting Andromeda dead till I hear it officially. I still believe/hope we’ll get a sequel.
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Post by lovelypumpkin on May 8, 2018 16:48:50 GMT
If I were some EA exec I'd say comissioning more books/comics would be a worthy investment to imitate franchise's life and give it some visibility in news. Thankfully I'm not EA exec and this book might be the last ME material for the next five years or more. And that's the worst part about it, it will never be officially finished. I’m not counting Andromeda dead till I hear it officially. I still believe/hope we’ll get a sequel. Same here! Andromeda had a lot of potential, but it was too big and too empty. It wasn't put in the hands of the right team for such a large task. I don't think Andromeda is dead until it is officially announced.
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Post by Croatsky on May 11, 2018 17:08:32 GMT
I’m not counting Andromeda dead till I hear it officially. I still believe/hope we’ll get a sequel. Same here! Andromeda had a lot of potential, but it was too big and too empty. It wasn't put in the hands of the right team for such a large task. I don't think Andromeda is dead until it is officially announced. Let's not put blame on entire team. Clearly most of BW Montreal was staffed with skilled people with love for the franchise. But the leadership and middle management was one that screwed up, with poor vision and decisions that caused BW Edmonton to intervene and get things back on track. Now ME franchise has no team beyond a skeleton crew to maintain ME:A MP and non-game content like books and comics. And that is a huge problem. With Anthem being a decade long planned project for original ME team, BW Montreal gone, DA team not likely to ditch their DA franchise and BW Austin still running SW:TOR, who will take over? A new BW studio? Unlikely, they already did it with BW Montreal. Giving ME to other EA studio? Very unlikely, unlikely BW would just hand over their IP to other EA studio nor would EA do that while BW exists. Expanding BW Edmonton? Possible, but that might overstretched them and cause issues for Anthem and DA. Form a new team between BW Austin and BW Edmonton? Probably the cheapest option, but such move has no set precedent though. This is a major logistical issue for ME to continue. While ME IP is profitable and popular, lack of manpower and infrastructure to continue the franchise is troubling. At least from what we know publically. We won't know for a long time will they pull the plug or continue with brand new team.
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Post by griffith82 on May 11, 2018 17:17:42 GMT
Same here! Andromeda had a lot of potential, but it was too big and too empty. It wasn't put in the hands of the right team for such a large task. I don't think Andromeda is dead until it is officially announced. Let's not put blame on entire team. Clearly most of BW Montreal was staffed with skilled people with love for the franchise. But the leadership and middle management was one that screwed up, with poor vision and decisions that caused BW Edmonton to intervene and get things back on track. Now ME franchise has no team beyond a skeleton crew to maintain ME:A MP and non-game content like books and comics. And that is a huge problem. With Anthem being a decade long planned project for original ME team, BW Montreal gone, DA team not likely to ditch their DA franchise and BW Austin still running SW:TOR, who will take over? A new BW studio? Unlikely, they already did it with BW Montreal. Giving ME to other EA studio? Very unlikely, unlikely BW would just hand over their IP to other EA studio nor would EA do that while BW exists. Expanding BW Edmonton? Possible, but that might overstretched them and cause issues for Anthem and DA. Form a new team between BW Austin and BW Edmonton? Probably the cheapest option, but such move has no set precedent though. This is a major logistical issue for ME to continue. While ME IP is profitable and popular, lack of manpower and infrastructure to continue the franchise is troubling. At least from what we know publically. We won't know for a long time will they pull the plug or continue with brand new team. Their biggest issue was putting so much time into a feature that didn’t pan out. If they hadn’t done that the initial reception likely would have been better. Though some would still have complained regardless.
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Post by Arcian on May 14, 2018 7:45:26 GMT
As long as they go back to the Milky Way, all sins are forgiven.
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Post by jclosed on May 14, 2018 10:39:55 GMT
If they go back to the Milky Way, I won't buy the game at all... Milky Way is milking the franchise, and no fresh new stuff.
Andromeda or nothing... That's my take on it..
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Post by souljahbill14 on May 14, 2018 10:53:10 GMT
As long as they go back to the Milky Way, all sins are forgiven. And all new, even more unforgivable sins, are created.
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Post by griffith82 on May 14, 2018 11:53:58 GMT
As long as they go back to the Milky Way, all sins are forgiven. If they do that they might as well hang an out of business everything must go sign on their door.
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Post by themikefest on May 14, 2018 12:13:02 GMT
Their biggest issue was putting so much time into a feature that didn’t pan out. If they hadn’t done that the initial reception likely would have been better. Though some would still have complained regardless. And had Bioware been given more time to do ME3 the way they originally had planned, the game would be different from what it currently is. Even the ending might be different.
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Post by themikefest on May 14, 2018 12:23:10 GMT
If they go back to the Milky Way, I won't buy the game at all... Milky Way is milking the franchise, and no fresh new stuff. Andromeda or nothing... That's my take on it.. Why do you believe there wouldn't be any new/fresh stuff? If they continue in Andromeda, I likely buy it, but at a discount. As long as they go back to the Milky Way, all sins are forgiven. And all new, even more unforgivable sins, are created. What new unforgivable sins would be created? As long as they go back to the Milky Way, all sins are forgiven. If they do that they might as well hang an out of business everything must go sign on their door. That could happen as well even if they continue in Andromeda
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Post by griffith82 on May 14, 2018 12:29:13 GMT
Their biggest issue was putting so much time into a feature that didn’t pan out. If they hadn’t done that the initial reception likely would have been better. Though some would still have complained regardless. And had Bioware been given more time to do ME3 the way they originally had planned, the game would be different from what it currently is. Even the ending might be different. You mean the Dark Energy plot? That was terrible I read the original outline.
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Post by griffith82 on May 14, 2018 12:30:21 GMT
If they go back to the Milky Way, I won't buy the game at all... Milky Way is milking the franchise, and no fresh new stuff. Andromeda or nothing... That's my take on it.. Why do you believe there wouldn't be any new/fresh stuff? If they continue in Andromeda, I likely buy it, but at a discount. And all new, even more unforgivable sins, are created. What new unforgivable sins would be created? If they do that they might as well hang an out of business everything must go sign on their door. That could happen as well even if they continue in Andromeda I doubt it. It would split the fan base even worse than it is now.
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Post by themikefest on May 14, 2018 12:34:44 GMT
And had Bioware been given more time to do ME3 the way they originally had planned, the game would be different from what it currently is. Even the ending might be different. You mean the Dark Energy plot? That was terrible I read the original outline. No. This. https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/1wyz7e/some_interesting_facts_about_me3s_development/
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Post by souljahbill14 on May 14, 2018 12:44:58 GMT
If they go back to the Milky Way, I won't buy the game at all... Milky Way is milking the franchise, and no fresh new stuff. Andromeda or nothing... That's my take on it.. Why do you believe there wouldn't be any new/fresh stuff? If they continue in Andromeda, I likely buy it, but at a discount. And all new, even more unforgivable sins, are created. What new unforgivable sins would be created? If they do that they might as well hang an out of business everything must go sign on their door. That could happen as well even if they continue in Andromeda 1) Andromeda ends in a way where a sequel was all but a given. BW needs to finish that story. 2) Trying to find a starting point that takes all the variances of ME3’s endings is asking for trouble. The story will fail before it even begins. 3) Any pre-ME1 sequels will have next to no consequence as the future is essentially written. If people thought choices didn’t matter before, a prequel would be more Uncharted than Mass Effect.
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Post by themikefest on May 14, 2018 12:58:18 GMT
1) Andromeda ends in a way where a sequel was all but a given. BW needs to finish that story. It looks like a few things will be finished in the next book. At least in regards to the quarians? I wouldn't have a problem if they chose to do a sequel, but that's more about knowing who the benefactor is, the details behind Garson's murder and what the kett will do with Archon dead. That depends on the story that Bioware wants to tell. You say it will fail while others would give it a pass. I'm not a fan of having a prequel, but if that were to happen, I might purchase the game, if it interests me.
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Post by souljahbill14 on May 14, 2018 13:04:05 GMT
1) Andromeda ends in a way where a sequel was all but a given. BW needs to finish that story. It looks like a few things will be finished in the next book. At least in regards to the quarians? I wouldn't have a problem if they chose to do a sequel, but that's more about knowing who the benefactor is, the details behind Garson's murder and what the kett will do with Archon dead. That depends on the story that Bioware wants to tell. You say it will fail while others would give it a pass. I'm not a fan of having a prequel, but if that were to happen, I might purchase the game, if it interests me. Andromeda’s story is light years ahead of Mass Effect 2’s story and lots of people complain about how bad it is and that’s with a new narrative and characters. A post-War game carrying the baggage of the original trilogy is gonna splinter the fan base just on whatever premise they invent to get all endings back to a single starting point.
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Post by themikefest on May 14, 2018 13:07:01 GMT
People will complain regardless of what Bioware chooses to do.
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Post by souljahbill14 on May 14, 2018 13:35:18 GMT
People will complain regardless of what Bioware chooses to do. That, we both agree on.
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Post by griffith82 on May 14, 2018 16:51:54 GMT
You mean the Dark Energy plot? That was terrible I read the original outline. No. This. https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/1wyz7e/some_interesting_facts_about_me3s_development/ Bah much of that was changed or fixed and imo for the better. Yes some shouldn’t have been cut mainly Javik and Anderson’s scene. Everything else I prefer what we got.
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Post by griffith82 on May 14, 2018 16:53:34 GMT
It looks like a few things will be finished in the next book. At least in regards to the quarians? I wouldn't have a problem if they chose to do a sequel, but that's more about knowing who the benefactor is, the details behind Garson's murder and what the kett will do with Archon dead. That depends on the story that Bioware wants to tell. You say it will fail while others would give it a pass. I'm not a fan of having a prequel, but if that were to happen, I might purchase the game, if it interests me. Andromeda’s story is light years ahead of Mass Effect 2’s story and lots of people complain about how bad it is and that’s with a new narrative and characters. A post-War game carrying the baggage of the original trilogy is gonna splinter the fan base just on whatever premise they event to get all endings back to a single starting point. Exactly. Finish what they started in Andromeda. Best option.
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Post by zallister on May 14, 2018 17:19:50 GMT
I think the best would be a remake of Andromeda. The current game is not a good base for further games.
But this time:
- write it better!
- fill all the emty space!
- remember that Andromeda is a new galaxy, a pioneer setting. You don´t feel that in the whole current game. Now, Andromeda is only an excuse to leave ME3 behind, but is much more.
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