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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 8, 2018 16:46:03 GMT
The dark energy plot was way worse than what we got. I like what we got and never bought into IT. The crucible as a trap is just the IT folks grasping at straws. The EC solved any issues I had. I do think the Crucible was a trap but do not in any way believe in IT. Too many holes and, as you say, grasping at straws. Having just did a Cronos Station to the end run, I looked immediately at what IT suggested, which was the comment that no one made it to the beam. At the time that was said, Shepard was lying on the ground and could easily be thought dead. But Shepard gets up and into the beam. That's confirmed when Hackett gets a report that Shepard made it to the Citadel. Am I supposed to think the Catalyst put the thought in Shepard's head that Hackett received a report about Shepard making to the Citadel? Makes no sense and should make Shepard doubt what was being experienced if that were true. No, IT was a nice idea to deal with hatred of the endings - and even compelling at some points - but it doesn't hold up. Neither does Synthesis Space Magic but then I never choose it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 8, 2018 16:58:58 GMT
There is an interesting moment in Leviathan. When Shepard asks the Leviathan about the Crucible, it has a strange look (which is purposely animated rather than some kind of bug) and answers in an ambiguous way. I wouldn't be surprised if the Leviathans had some kind of hand in its creation. As a weapon against the Reapers? Possibly. After all, they created the Catalyst/Intelligence and were actually waiting for the Reapers to find a solution. Maybe the Crucible would be their means of attempting to speed up the process. Also, the idea that anyone from a previous cycle could come up with a device that is 100% compatible with the Citadel is kind of crazy. The Leviathan were probably the only ones who could do it. So, yeah, the Leviathan or the Catalyst itself are the most likely originators of the Crucible. Mind you, I think the Leviathan would be credible threat in a future ME game, especially while the galaxy is rebuilding. I just wouldn't want Shepard be the hero again. Shepard, if alive, needs some time to rest and heal.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 8, 2018 16:59:25 GMT
Why didn't anyone make a run to the beam after the reaper flew away? Did everyone suffer from temporary blindness? I would say the way that scene happened was so that Anderson and Shepard can have that touchy-feely scene.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 8, 2018 17:04:47 GMT
Why didn't anyone make a run to the beam after the reaper flew away? Did everyone suffer from temporary blindness? I would say the way that scene happened was so that Anderson and Shepard can have that touchy-feely scene. Probably true but it was only really touchy-feely with the Extended Anderson Conversation.
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Post by Thedefdref on Aug 8, 2018 17:08:47 GMT
Soo.....
Didn't Bioware say that they would like to do smaller games aswell? And they said that they have teams working on something in the Mass Effect Universe So I think the next Mass Effect game will probably be something set in the past Like First-Contact war Or Krogan Rebellion That way they can earn back their customers trust, by proving that they are still able to tell great storys (much easier in a smaller game) Doing MEA2 right after MEA's disaster would be really stupid to be honest I doubt that they would risk putting so many resources into another big ME that fast
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Post by natetrace on Aug 8, 2018 17:30:03 GMT
As I said in the other thread, I predict a sequel or expansion size addition to Andromeda. Honestly I look forward to smaller size games. I am going to have two kids next year, my wife and I work full time, hell yes I'm in favor of scaling back the size of games.
I would love a smaller 20 hour max game where we deal a fatal blow to the Kett or fight batarians in the early days of humanity being part of the galactic community.
I say batarians because after the brief first contact war, I think Batarian slavery poses a bigger threat than the turians.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 8, 2018 18:01:36 GMT
Why didn't anyone make a run to the beam after the reaper flew away? Did everyone suffer from temporary blindness? I would say the way that scene happened was so that Anderson and Shepard can have that touchy-feely scene. Probably true but it was only really touchy-feely with the Extended Anderson Conversation. Another reason I miss my PC. I missed that scene when I did my last run on Xbox. It baffles me that they didn't add that back in with the EC.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 8, 2018 18:06:26 GMT
Why didn't anyone make a run to the beam after the reaper flew away? Did everyone suffer from temporary blindness? I would say the way that scene happened was so that Anderson and Shepard can have that touchy-feely scene. Well, the Mass Effect universe is known for doing the most dumb ass shit ever...
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Post by abedsbrother on Aug 8, 2018 18:59:21 GMT
Games I'd like to see:
1. We'll play as a new, original character who works on rebuilding the Milky Way after the Reaper war. Choices from the original trilogy can be imported, but there will be no Shepard. Their story is finished. An opportunity for a "soft" Milky Way reboot that could be immediately familiar and new at the same time.
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2. We'll play as a new, original character in Andromeda who is part of the first scouting group to go beyond the Heleus cluster. Emphasis on outposts, survival, and political implications of tracking and finding living Jardaan (who perhaps view themselves as an apex-level species?). Not saying it needs to go full Fallout 4, but it'd be cool to be able to actually build settlements as part of a larger meta-game of research and survival in a new cluster. It'd be great to play as a mercenary - more akin to Shepard as a Cerberus agent in ME2. Opportunity with that approach to create your character and make them of any species you want - which is something fans have wanted for some time. A mercenary turian who thinks Avitus Rix is a coward, an asari who is ashamed of her species after the Sarissa debacle, a angry batarian newly arrived in Andromeda after experiencing horrors at the hands of the Kett on the Paarchero - so many different possibilities and backstories. Return Mass Effect to its RPG roots while retaining the engaging combat from MEA.
The game we'll probably get: A soulless attempt to reboot Andromeda for only $10 a month.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Aug 8, 2018 19:04:08 GMT
Soo..... Didn't Bioware say that they would like to do smaller games aswell? And they said that they have teams working on something in the Mass Effect Universe So I think the next Mass Effect game will probably be something set in the past Like First-Contact war Or Krogan Rebellion That way they can earn back their customers trust, by proving that they are still able to tell great storys (much easier in a smaller game) Doing MEA2 right after MEA's disaster would be really stupid to be honest I doubt that they would risk putting so many resources into another big ME that fastThey can still make a dlc/expansion, while working on a new big ME. It won't be a risk nor a waste of resources.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Aug 8, 2018 19:17:04 GMT
Games I'd like to see: 1. We'll play as a new, original character who works on rebuilding the Milky Way after the Reaper war. Choices from the original trilogy can be imported, but there will be no Shepard. Their story is finished. An opportunity for a "soft" Milky Way reboot that could be immediately familiar and new at the same time. OR 2. We'll play as a new, original character in Andromeda who is part of the first scouting group to go beyond the Heleus cluster. Emphasis on outposts, survival, and political implications of tracking and finding living Jardaan (who perhaps view themselves as an apex-level species?). Not saying it needs to go full Fallout 4, but it'd be cool to be able to actually build settlements as part of a larger meta-game of research and survival in a new cluster. It'd be great to play as a mercenary - more akin to Shepard as a Cerberus agent in ME2. Opportunity with that approach to create your character and make them of any species you want - which is something fans have wanted for some time. A mercenary turian who thinks Avitus Rix is a coward, an asari who is ashamed of her species after the Sarissa debacle, a angry batarian newly arrived in Andromeda after experiencing horrors at the hands of the Kett on the Paarchero - so many different possibilities and backstories. Return Mass Effect to its RPG roots while retaining the engaging combat from MEA. The game we'll probably get: A soulless attempt to reboot Andromeda for only $10 a month. Well they said that they wanted different protagonist from now on in each mass effect so it might happen.... Overall i like your idea but i would've preferred it after ryder's story is finished.
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Post by Phantom on Aug 8, 2018 20:20:11 GMT
I would support a game or a major segment that the Hero does deal with the batarian in a greater capacity.
For example, within my Mass Effect fantasy game, One of the groups you have to deal with is a Batarian Commando and his death squad and the aftermath of their bombing of a multi species nightclub.
Shelby(a Cerberus Nemesis) ropes Scotty(a Cerberus Engineer) and PC(a Cerberus Phantom) into attempting to Batarian's bombing at the Nightclub. The Explosion opens a hole to the Keeper Tunnels under the NightClub. Several Civilians were in the tunnels with the "heroes" and Batarian commandos and some husks kills the cilivans. Ulimately the "heroes" escape and Keepers seals all of the exits into their tunnels. Batarian Commando will escape back to batarian space. Shelby, Scotty and the PC get recruited to Cerberus by Tessa(a gorgeous tall blonde) and they find ties between a Turian Commander, Asari Engineer and Batarian Warden and their ties to Saren.
Batarian Warden runs a Prison that contents slaves for Sale to Buyers in Batarian Space and Terminus Systems. Shelby is a former Slave in that Prison. Well she does flip out that they are going there. In Short, The Prison is a major planet within context of the story. Including an expanded back story of Mindor and much of the slave raids by the Batarians. why Batarians resent humanity great deal and their plans to screw them over on the galatic stage. Batarian Warden has glowing soulless black eyes that are insanely creepy.
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Post by Thedefdref on Aug 8, 2018 21:48:19 GMT
They can still make a dlc/expansion, while working on a new big ME. It won't be a risk nor a waste of resources I doubt that's going to happen Mass Effect Andromeda was a disaster for EA and Bioware They won't touch it again It would be smarter to do smaller games and focusing on Storytelling But it's up to Bioware And after Anthem we will probably get DA4 So we will see in which direction they go
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Post by melbella on Aug 9, 2018 0:36:47 GMT
I would've found it interesting to see a version of ME1 from Sarens perspective, from when he found Sovereign to the Battle of the Citadel. Maybe, but we'd really be seeing his descent into madness as the indoctrination continued to take root. It might make a good DLC to explain why Saren thought he could make use of Sovereign in any way - were his initial reasons to save organic life or instead to gain more power? Considering what we know about him, power-seeking doesn't seem all that unreasonable.
I vote power. At the end of Revelations, Saren is pretty excited about how he's going to use this new weapon that's fallen into his lap against humans.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 9, 2018 0:56:17 GMT
Games I'd like to see: 1. We'll play as a new, original character who works on rebuilding the Milky Way after the Reaper war. Choices from the original trilogy can be imported, but there will be no Shepard. Their story is finished. An opportunity for a "soft" Milky Way reboot that could be immediately familiar and new at the same time. OR 2. We'll play as a new, original character in Andromeda who is part of the first scouting group to go beyond the Heleus cluster. Emphasis on outposts, survival, and political implications of tracking and finding living Jardaan (who perhaps view themselves as an apex-level species?). Not saying it needs to go full Fallout 4, but it'd be cool to be able to actually build settlements as part of a larger meta-game of research and survival in a new cluster. It'd be great to play as a mercenary - more akin to Shepard as a Cerberus agent in ME2. Opportunity with that approach to create your character and make them of any species you want - which is something fans have wanted for some time. A mercenary turian who thinks Avitus Rix is a coward, an asari who is ashamed of her species after the Sarissa debacle, a angry batarian newly arrived in Andromeda after experiencing horrors at the hands of the Kett on the Paarchero - so many different possibilities and backstories. Return Mass Effect to its RPG roots while retaining the engaging combat from MEA. The game we'll probably get: A soulless attempt to reboot Andromeda for only $10 a month. Well they said that they wanted different protagonist from now on in each mass effect so it might happen.... Overall i like your idea but i would've preferred it after ryder's story is finished.So would I
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Post by General Mahad on Aug 9, 2018 15:36:39 GMT
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I'll take any of the endings even the green vomit ending.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 9, 2018 23:44:01 GMT
Well they said that they wanted different protagonist from now on in each mass effect so it might happen.... Overall i like your idea but i would've preferred it after ryder's story is finished.So would I Me too but I'll take what I can get.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 11, 2018 17:49:47 GMT
Had the reapers not interfered, the quarians would have destroyed the geth , possibly before Shepard showed up.
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Post by ahglock on Aug 11, 2018 21:31:08 GMT
Had the reapers not interfered, the quarians would have destroyed the geth , possibly before Shepard showed up. Which in a way proves the Reapers core premise might be wrong. But Bioware went wussy and decided to go the AI and organics can be friends route for Andromeda.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 11, 2018 23:04:41 GMT
Well, of course the Reapers' core premise is wrong They're the bad guys.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 18:10:32 GMT
They've always been the bad guys. They've been the main antagonist of the entire trilogy.
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Post by ahglock on Aug 18, 2018 21:13:12 GMT
Well, of course the Reapers' core premise is wrong They're the bad guys. Plenty of bad guys are right about the issues but just wrong in their solution.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 19, 2018 1:13:35 GMT
Had the reapers not interfered, the quarians would have destroyed the geth , possibly before Shepard showed up. Which in a way proves the Reapers core premise might be wrong. But Bioware went wussy and decided to go the AI and organics can be friends route for Andromeda. The Reapers are definitely wrong. Javik tells of the zha who were interlinked with the zha'til. He also mentions how the zha'til took over the minds of the organics to which they were bound. Problem here is that it didn't happen until the Reapers made it happen.
How about the geth? Sure they drove off the quarians but they didn't pursue. When did they become aggressive? After Sovereign showed up.
The core premise only works if the Reapers force it to work.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 19, 2018 3:56:10 GMT
They can still make a dlc/expansion, while working on a new big ME. It won't be a risk nor a waste of resources I doubt that's going to happen Mass Effect Andromeda was a disaster for EA and Bioware They won't touch it again It would be smarter to do smaller games and focusing on Storytelling But it's up to Bioware And after Anthem we will probably get DA4 So we will see in which direction they go It wouldn’t serve them to runaway from their problems again like they did with ME3.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 19, 2018 12:03:56 GMT
I doubt that's going to happen Mass Effect Andromeda was a disaster for EA and Bioware They won't touch it again It would be smarter to do smaller games and focusing on Storytelling But it's up to Bioware And after Anthem we will probably get DA4 So we will see in which direction they go It wouldn’t serve them to runaway from their problems again like they did with ME3. Indeed it would likely cause them even more issues by simply abandoning it. As people would then start questioning whether they're up to telling a complete story any more I know I would and I doubt I'd be the only one. After all say what you like about the ending at least the trilogy was a complete story. We can't say that about MEA yet in my book yet given the various plot holes. In my opinion the ykind of have 2 choices now that we know they aren't doing DLC to solve this problem release a book to tell us the end to that story or continue it into an expansion/new game. Either way they still have work to do and they know it.
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