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Post by samhain444 on Aug 20, 2018 14:47:37 GMT
I doubt that's going to happen Mass Effect Andromeda was a disaster for EA and Bioware They won't touch it again It would be smarter to do smaller games and focusing on Storytelling But it's up to Bioware And after Anthem we will probably get DA4 So we will see in which direction they go It wouldn’t serve them to runaway from their problems again like they did with ME3. And they didn't even really run away from ME3...they created the Free DLC Extended Cut to address fan concerns and launched three more planned SP DLCs (Leviathan, Omega, Citadel). By the time 2013 was over, the game was in good shape and Shepard's story was done. I think if they left the Mass Effect 3 endings "as-is" they would have hurt their SP DLCs sales and the franchise's future so I think that's the lesson the could look to for ME:A's future - continue to improve. ME:A had a mixed launch but it was still a money-maker and the game is still being played while all the haters have moved on to hate on other things as haters often do. The worst thing BioWare could do is not acknowledge the story they started and leave all the dangling threads of narrative unresolved. So far, it hasn't been addressed in either "Nexus Uprising" nor "Initiation" and I'm not sure how the Benefactor/Jien Garson, the Remnant/Jardaan/Opposition, Fate of Ellen Ryder, or the future of Angara or Kett subplots could be addressed in "Annihilation" this November when it's essentially about the Quarian Ark's travel to Heleus. None of the media released by BioWare post-launch has addressed anything after the Andromeda Initiative's arrival in Heleus. If you objectively look at both the Original Trilogy and ME:A, I don't think it's hard to see which has the clearer pathway for a more sustainable future. Realistically, for more "Mass Effect" games to be set in the Milky Way post-"Original Trilogy", they are going to have to choose a canon ending which could prove to be significantly more problematic for BioWare than just trying to put more effort into a wide-open narrative opportunity available to them in Heleus. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 20, 2018 15:46:50 GMT
Had the reapers not interfered, the quarians would have destroyed the geth , possibly before Shepard showed up. <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.960000000000036px; height: 2.8400000000000034px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_77954204" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="2.8400000000000034"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 2.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_76815810" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="2.8400000000000034"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 2.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 83px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_86757491" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="2.8400000000000034"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 2.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: 83px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_38412540" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="2.8400000000000034"></iframe> Had the Reapers not interfered, the geth would never have attacked Eden Prime. The quarians took advantage of a situation that Sovereign, in particular, created. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 20, 2018 15:48:40 GMT
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Post by themikefest on Aug 20, 2018 15:52:26 GMT
destroy is the way to go. The game gives no reason to choose the green or blue
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Post by themikefest on Aug 20, 2018 15:54:25 GMT
"Had the Reapers not interfered, the geth would never have attacked Eden Prime. The quarians took advantage of a situation that Sovereign, in particular, created. Would Sovereign use the Collectors to attack Eden Prime? |
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 20, 2018 16:00:06 GMT
"Had the Reapers not interfered, the geth would never have attacked Eden Prime. The quarians took advantage of a situation that Sovereign, in particular, created. Would Sovereign use the Collectors to attack Eden Prime? I don't know. As far as well can tell, the attack was specifically to find the Prothean beacon. That humans were killed or turned into husks seemed to be unrelated to harvesting to create a human Reaper. Obviously, I don't know what the Collectors are for, but they seem to be only about harvesting. Also, Sovereign was probably deemed capable of handling the situation. When he failed, Sovereign stepped in by taking control of the Collectors.
Short answer: maybe. But then that would remove the geth from the equation, leaving them hidden away in the Perseus Veil.
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Post by sil on Aug 20, 2018 17:31:31 GMT
I still think one of the mistakes Bioware made with Andromeda is saying that it was a stand alone game that may get a sequel, rather than saying it's the birth of a new trilogy with our decisions carrying over. That was one of the great features of Mass Effect, and knowing there is a future would've kept people playing for longer to prepare for sequels.
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Post by samhain444 on Aug 20, 2018 17:57:25 GMT
I still think one of the mistakes Bioware made with Andromeda is saying that it was a stand alone game that may get a sequel, rather than saying it's the birth of a new trilogy with our decisions carrying over. That was one of the great features of Mass Effect, and knowing there is a future would've kept people playing for longer to prepare for sequels. I think the reason (or at least one of them) was they didn't want to lock themselves into a series of games like the Original Trilogy. "Mass Effect" was designed to part of a trilogy so they had to build the 2nd and 3rd game out with that in mind while also attempting to account for all the choices people made. By not stating, "this will be a new trilogy" or "there will be a direct sequel", they are free to take the series where they want with the fear of contradicting themselves. |
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Post by sil on Aug 20, 2018 18:58:29 GMT
I still think one of the mistakes Bioware made with Andromeda is saying that it was a stand alone game that may get a sequel, rather than saying it's the birth of a new trilogy with our decisions carrying over. That was one of the great features of Mass Effect, and knowing there is a future would've kept people playing for longer to prepare for sequels. I think the reason (or at least one of them) was they didn't want to lock themselves into a series of games like the Original Trilogy. "Mass Effect" was designed to part of a trilogy so they had to build the 2nd and 3rd game out with that in mind while also attempting to account for all the choices people made. By not stating, "this will be a new trilogy" or "there will be a direct sequel", they are free to take the series where they want with the fear of contradicting themselves. It also made them look far less certain of the quality of their product. When they made ME1, they made it clear it was part of a trilogy, they obviously didn't have the same confidence this time and it showed. |
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Post by samhain444 on Aug 20, 2018 19:10:48 GMT
I think the reason (or at least one of them) was they didn't want to lock themselves into a series of games like the Original Trilogy. "Mass Effect" was designed to part of a trilogy so they had to build the 2nd and 3rd game out with that in mind while also attempting to account for all the choices people made. By not stating, "this will be a new trilogy" or "there will be a direct sequel", they are free to take the series where they want with the fear of contradicting themselves. It also made them look far less certain of the quality of their product. When they made ME1, they made it clear it was part of a trilogy, they obviously didn't have the same confidence this time and it showed. I guess... I mean, for me personally, I don't know why they had to announce a sequel to demonstrate anything. They never did it with the "Dragon Age" and the fact you could carry Shepard's actions over the course of 3 games was unique to that series. My understanding through the respective devs comments that I read on the subject was by Mass Effect 3, accounting for the thousands of variables created by the past two games (Especially by Mass Effect 2) was a pain in ass they didn't want to repeat. |
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Post by ahglock on Aug 21, 2018 0:58:41 GMT
I think the reason (or at least one of them) was they didn't want to lock themselves into a series of games like the Original Trilogy. "Mass Effect" was designed to part of a trilogy so they had to build the 2nd and 3rd game out with that in mind while also attempting to account for all the choices people made. By not stating, "this will be a new trilogy" or "there will be a direct sequel", they are free to take the series where they want with the fear of contradicting themselves. It also made them look far less certain of the quality of their product. When they made ME1, they made it clear it was part of a trilogy, they obviously didn't have the same confidence this time and it showed. I agree with your premise but not for those reasons. My issue if there is a MEA2 and 3 they don effed up just like ME1-3 where they hadn't mapped the entire story in advance. I am fine with continuing in Andromeda but drop the current plot have MEA1s ending be conclusion enough to that arc, maybe some side quests to tie up loose ends. But start a new plot designed from the get go as a trilogy where they know where the story is going.(hopefully with a different protagonist, I did not like Ryder and I really did not like the SAM wonder powers. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 21, 2018 1:03:54 GMT
They did plan for future games. They've even said this in interviews how some things, like the Jardaan or Scourge or the Mysterious Benefactor are part of the megastory of the Andromeda games. They also talked about how we'll expand more and more into the galaxy as the games progress. All they said was they were leaving it open to continue with Ryder or do something like they did with the Dragon Age games where the next game will have a new protagonist as they continue the story.
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Post by melbella on Aug 21, 2018 1:17:08 GMT
If Ryder isn't the PC in another Andromeda game, s/he should be the new leader of the AI. Fast forward enough years and Tann will have died from old age, assuming Kesh didn't finally figure out how to turn him into a salaricicle.  |
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 21, 2018 1:32:48 GMT
If Ryder isn't the PC in another Andromeda game, s/he should be the new leader of the AI. Fast forward enough years and Tann will have died from old age, assuming Kesh didn't finally figure out how to turn him into a salaricicle. Or into a Krogan happy meal. 😁 |
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Post by ahglock on Aug 21, 2018 1:41:14 GMT
They did plan for future games. They've even said this in interviews how some things, like the Jardaan or Scourge or the Mysterious Benefactor are part of the megastory of the Andromeda games. They also talked about how we'll expand more and more into the galaxy as the games progress. All they said was they were leaving it open to continue with Ryder or do something like they did with the Dragon Age games where the next game will have a new protagonist as they continue the story. They had story hooks for the future, but they didn't really write the fundamentals of the arc as they were not sure they would even do a arc. |
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Post by General Mahad on Aug 21, 2018 5:25:56 GMT
My kingdom for a Mass Effect sequel in the Milky Way galaxy. I'll take any of the endings even the green vomit ending. I will not take Synthesis, thank you. And Control is outright creepy. Destroy is the way to go. Agreed, I hate Control and the Green Goo ending but I'm desperate for Mass Effect's return to the galaxy of milk and honey. |
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Aug 21, 2018 8:25:19 GMT
They did plan for future games. They've even said this in interviews how some things, like the Jardaan or Scourge or the Mysterious Benefactor are part of the megastory of the Andromeda games. They also talked about how we'll expand more and more into the galaxy as the games progress. All they said was they were leaving it open to continue with Ryder or do something like they did with the Dragon Age games where the next game will have a new protagonist as they continue the story. I have my fears that they'll not include ryder in the next game given their reception, but i really hope they do. |
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 21, 2018 22:25:08 GMT
destroy is the way to go. The game gives no reason to choose the green or blue Actually there is. You just don't like it. |
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Post by themikefest on Aug 21, 2018 22:58:08 GMT
destroy is the way to go. The game gives no reason to choose the green or blue Actually there is. You just don't like it. And what reason is it that I don't like? |
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 21, 2018 23:15:27 GMT
Actually there is. You just don't like it. And what reason is it that I don't like? The implication that's where we'd eventually end up. As for Control my guess is from what I've seen of you, you hate every choice the catalyst gives you. |
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Post by themikefest on Aug 21, 2018 23:37:18 GMT
The implication that's where we'd eventually end up. Where is it that we'll eventually end up? So there's no reason you can come up with? Isn't that what I said? Incorrect. I like seeing the reapers fall over destroyed. |
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 21, 2018 23:44:55 GMT
The implication that's where we'd eventually end up. Where is it that we'll eventually end up? So there's no reason you can come up with? Isn't that what I said? Incorrect. I like seeing the reapers fall over destroyed. Synthesis. And for the record it doesn't surprise me that you only pick destroy. I wouldn't be surprised if you use MEHEM. |
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Post by Phantom on Aug 21, 2018 23:48:07 GMT
do you believe in Universal Harmony and Balance? if you like Synthesis, you might believe in Universal Harmony and Balance.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 21, 2018 23:48:43 GMT
Synthesis. And for the record it doesn't surprise me that you only pick destroy. I wouldn't be surprised if you use MEHEM. Oh yeah. The green crap. Hopefully I'm dead before that happens. Of course I only pick destroy. Surprise. I don't use MEHEM since I play on the ps3. |
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Aug 22, 2018 0:04:48 GMT
Where is it that we'll eventually end up? So there's no reason you can come up with? Isn't that what I said? Incorrect. I like seeing the reapers fall over destroyed. Synthesis. And for the record it doesn't surprise me that you only pick destroy. I wouldn't be surprised if you use MEHEM. This is another example of you trying (badly) to bully people for having (gasp) a different opinion than yours. Shocking. Synthesis may be where humanity ends up, but it most definitely is not where all life in the Galaxy will go. My cat has no interest in being a hybrid, and no reason. If you say that Synthesis only happens to "intelligent" life, who draws that line, and does evolution stop there? The joy you bring to parties, never seems to amaze me. Edit: and so what if any of us use MEHEM, or whatever other mod we want? It's my game. |
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