I cannot defend BioWare regarding SJW stuff anymore. That's it.

Jan 27, 2018 14:07:47 GMT @carefull said:

Well, to be honest, if the strength lies with making a very precisely animated story for one and only one character, with the story tightly tailored to that character's background and relationships, nothing says this character cannot be a female romancing males. But since there is no game out there like that, I cannot really have an empirical experience. All the seven games I have played with fixed leads were with a male with the exception of Bayonetta, and they were inferior in every way to BioWARE's games. That's seven games vs one you keep quoting, the Witcher 3. It's an exceptional game in every way.

Sure, nothing says that it can't, but nothing says that it will have as a large a target audience as TW3 had.

On average, females and males have different tastes in games.

I think I mentioned it before: I was part of the kickstarter for Divinity Original Sin 2, which is a tactical turn-based RPG, they had a survey during that time for their backers, which included gender.

I was not particularly surprised when the results were around 5% female (I suspect that it was something like 2% actually, but I don't remember), and around 1% or less who preferred not to answer the question.

With Tyranny, according to this survey, 92% of the people who answered the survey were male, 6% were female, and 2% didn't answer.

I'm guessing that with "Life is Strange", or various other genres, things might be different.

This is simply a matter of supply and demand.

Again, I'm not objecting to you getting your figurative pound of flesh, it's just that I likely won't find a game aimed at giving you said pound of flesh particularly interesting, as obviously we have different tastes.

The point is, TW3 was a good game which was aimed at a demographic that you obviously don't belong to, since you value other things which this particular game didn't offer.

And no, you can't simply make a game like TW3 which would please everyone, I simply don't think that's particularly realistic, which is something that I tried explaining multiple times in this thread.

In any case, we are debating in circles here. So unless you have something new to say on this topic aside from assertions about TW3 based on nothing but preconceptions, I'll agree to disagree and stop here,

since I don't have much more to say on this topic that I haven't said already.

Jan 27, 2018 19:10:38 GMT SofaJockey said:

oh ok, I thought the point was about something significant.

What were the "minor" social and political narratives that disappointed its legion of fans?

I can think of quite a few personally, but as a mod you've seen examples raised here before, and you likely dismiss them all as completely innocent.

It really comes down to how much credit you are willing to give Bioware, and whether you think that them inviting Sarkeesian (or other things) are an indication of their political agenda, which obviously I do.

I mean, if I asked what Bioware's position on the political spectrum is, I don't think many people would say that it's on the right...

Which isn't something I care about, as long as their politics are largely kept out of their products.

But things add up, sometimes it's design decisions, characters, preaching on progressive hot-topics, inviting Sarkeesian over for a tea... At this point you need to be rather naive not the see the theme.