I cannot defend BioWare regarding SJW stuff anymore. That's it.

Anita Sarkeesian is still relevant in some way? I had completely forgotten that she exists. I don't remember all the crap I saw on youtube once, thank goodness.

Yeah, except the thing is, A isn't bad and also isn't actually happening. Science-fiction has always been political because the entire function of the genre, ever since its inception, has been to examine current society through the lens of possible futures. There's no way a legit science-fiction enthusiast could possibly be ignorant of that fact.

A scant few game developers and publishers are putting diversity and diversity-positive content in their games, either because they think it's the right thing to do, or because they think it will make them the most money. They are not the least bit interested in changing your opinion or anyone else's in regard to these issues, because anyone with half a brain already knows that's a big fat waste of time.

The only thing happening here is that you and others are upset that a piece of media you consumed contained the wrong messages (ones you didn't like). You're all now going out of your way to complain about those messages, and racking your brain to come up with reasons for why those messages should be removed. Criticizing the message itself would expose you, so you all rack your brains to come up with tangential complaints: it's 'preachy', it's 'pandering', blah blah blah blah blah.

But it's all a big smokescreen, because the truth is there is no way for creators to inject diversity into their work in any way that you would all actually accept. The best they can reasonably hope for is that some of you will arbitrarily decide that some particular character is 'okay' because they 'didn't shove it in your face too much', like that one gay guy who's allowed to hang with you because he dresses and acts like a 'real man' and doesn't talk about icky gay stuff around you.

Wow, I don't remember all that 'politics' being in MEA.

I thought the whole 'pronoun' debate related to Trans people:
That Trans-Men are addressed as 'he' and Tran's-women 'she'

And Asari could pick their pronoun if I recall.

That doesn't seem very controversial to me to be included in a game.

Your courtesy is appreciated.

But people making a storm because they are 'upset by SJW content' such as this bemuses me.
And if BioWare were making a kind point to make the game world welcoming for everyone, I have no issue with that.

As for concerns you may have over 'lawmaking' that has nothing to do with a BioWare game, surely.

*leafs through the thread*

lol... guess I've missed nothing of substance.

It actually did pull me out of MEA momentarily when there was discussion of some asari using the male pronoun.  It didn't make sense to me.  However, I didn't dwell on it.

I thought Krem and the chargers were on the whole pretty successful.
The discussion in the tavern was a little preachy at times, but nothing to be upset about.

We'll all encounter areas of lore, plot or approach in a multi-hour game that would not be as we'd expect, 
but some of the complaints about Krem (as you've raised him) was out of all proportion to the content.

And that is just what i thought.  I do think there is a story behind this imo whether it be a complaint or just one of the writers going too far.  We'll probably never know.

I see. Didn't share that feeling about the conversation's place, myself. But as I said, my Inquisitors don't really have that conversation.

As for the qunari, AFAIK nothing's said about the qunari taking someone at their word for this. Wouldn't gender assignment be handled by the tamassrans in the exact same way that they handle assigning everything else?

Considering the Qunari were retconned after Origins, it's probably better to not delve too deeply into Qunari lore

It just gets confusing, then you have to do mental gymnastics to explain the inconsistencies and ... ugh

It's hard to make the retcon charge stick. What Sten says in Origins doesn't actually contradict what we learn in DAI, largely because the Warden isn't permitted to ask some questions. This is consistent with both the writers setting us up to misinterpret the Qun -- a strategy pursued at several other places in the series -- or with the writers taking advantage of the ambiguous dialogue to do a retcon. I haven't seen any data that can resolve this.