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Post by Fogg on Mar 14, 2019 7:24:34 GMT
Big player drop incoming. Everyone that subscribed to Origin Access Premier to play the game early and only pay 15 bucks, their first month is up.
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Post by saandrig on Mar 14, 2019 8:21:34 GMT
Big player drop incoming. Everyone that subscribed to Origin Access Premier to play the game early and only pay 15 bucks, their first month is up. Waiting for Bioware's announcement that huge loot drop rate changes are coming on the 16th 😁 As a side note, isn't it funny how they edited the Road map message? Now it's a "goal" and not a promise. Sounds like they are not sure if they can deliver even that bare bones content.
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 14, 2019 8:35:43 GMT
Big player drop incoming. Everyone that subscribed to Origin Access Premier to play the game early and only pay 15 bucks, their first month is up. Waiting for Bioware's announcement that huge loot drop rate changes are coming on the 16th 😁 As a side note, isn't it funny how they edited the Road map message? Now it's a "goal" and not a promise. Sounds like they are not sure if they can deliver even that bare bones content. Time is eaten up by squashing critical bugs. A dilemma for the content planned in a competitive environment.
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Post by saandrig on Mar 14, 2019 9:11:48 GMT
Waiting for Bioware's announcement that huge loot drop rate changes are coming on the 16th 😁 As a side note, isn't it funny how they edited the Road map message? Now it's a "goal" and not a promise. Sounds like they are not sure if they can deliver even that bare bones content. Time is eaten up by squashing critical bugs. A dilemma for the content planned in a competitive environment. Well, 6 years well spent 😁 The months after launch is always the best time to squash critical bugs (bonus points for putting it as "content" in a Road map). Because their internal testing was so "sufficient" and a beta was not required. And who needs a beta when you can take your customers's money and then tell them to go find bugs in specific areas of your game and report them. Just like in, you know, a beta. You don't even need to pay for testers or a QA team, there are enough suckers out there to not only do it for free, but actually pay you full AAA price for the privilege 😀 But all is fine, because the LoD items are the most generous offering ever in video game history. Ben Irving said it, so it must be true.
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Post by Sylvae on Mar 14, 2019 9:25:44 GMT
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Post by saandrig on Mar 14, 2019 9:30:23 GMT
It's just a more elaborate "we hear you" and "we are working". Gee, who wouldn't expect them to listen to their customers and work 😁 I'll wait to see their actions. So far their latest attempts were not confidence inspiring.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Mar 14, 2019 10:58:56 GMT
I wouldn't call that "6 years well spent". 6 years from Baldur's Gate I till KOTOR or since KOTOR till ME2... now those are very good 6 years.
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Post by saandrig on Mar 14, 2019 11:27:33 GMT
I wouldn't call that "6 years well spent". 6 years from Baldur's Gate I till KOTOR or since KOTOR till ME2... now those are very good 6 years. Wearing the cap with 100% sarcasm resistance? 😁
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Post by shinobiwan on Mar 14, 2019 11:32:46 GMT
Except he basically didn't say anything of substance, then blamed the community for not being "constructive." Sorry, when the game is this messed up overall, reporting issues one by one isn't going to cut it. We can only be "constructive" as he seems to mean it if we are given something to work with. If anyone is still on the fence at this point and holding out hope, now's the time to put the controller down. I know I am - at least it's nice that we got our confirmation a few months earlier than we got it for Andromeda.
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 14, 2019 12:57:54 GMT
It's just a more elaborate "we hear you" and "we are working". Gee, who wouldn't expect them to listen to their customers and work 😁 I'll wait to see their actions. So far their latest attempts were not confidence inspiring.
Bio should by now realize their internal testing was very poor. Actually, they dropped the ball.
Being transparent with your customers when you sold them a turd can be very daunting and exhausting. Blaming customers for their "unrealistic expectations" and negative reactions is ludicrous.
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Post by CHRrOME on Mar 14, 2019 13:00:05 GMT
I wouldn't call that "6 years well spent". 6 years from Baldur's Gate I till KOTOR or since KOTOR till ME2... now those are very good 6 years. It's almost as if they just can't get things together anymore. I wonder if they're still battling with Frosbite, or they genuinely have so many internal issues (people leaving, people getting in, etc) they just can't put out a good game.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Mar 14, 2019 13:09:25 GMT
I wouldn't call that "6 years well spent". 6 years from Baldur's Gate I till KOTOR or since KOTOR till ME2... now those are very good 6 years. Wearing the cap with 100% sarcasm resistance? 😁 Sorry, so many people around with no avatars who use Windows XP era emojis tbh!
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Post by lennybusker on Mar 14, 2019 16:30:48 GMT
www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/b0r02x/thunderbolt_of_yvenia_is_bugged_on_storm_testing/tldr: Thunderbolt's lightning proc does 76% less damage on Storm than on everyone else for no apparent reason. I thought it felt different on different javs but I never bothered to actually check. Someone in the comments raises a very valid point: how can you trust anything in this game? This is why testing is so important. People who don't pay attention to things might have a rosy picture of gear itemization at the masterwork level because hey, there are lots of different MW effects and inscriptions to chase down and let's say you like lightning damage, well if you grab a few different things that boost lightning damage you're like awesome, all right, got my build let's rock and roll. But does it actually work, or is it just placebo? Tests are showing over and over that a large portion, maybe even a majority of items and effects in this game flat out don't work. The stalwart defenders and fanboys will say "oh well, it's just a bug, iM hAviNg fUn so who cares, they'll fix it" like they said with the absolute travesty of the level 1 weapon scaling issue. But reasonable people will learn these things and become rightfully upset at the plethora of broken mechanics. It also shows a flaw in the review process - how many reviewers knew that so many things under the hood were broken? How much lower might Anthem's critic scores have been if it were apparent?
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Post by shinobiwan on Mar 14, 2019 16:36:39 GMT
The stalwart defenders and fanboys will say "oh well, it's just a bug, iM hAviNg fUn so who cares, they'll fix it There are fewer and fewer of these by the day and the rest of what's left of the community is losing its tolerance for it. I'm about as big of a Bioware fan as it gets, but I've basically moved on at this point. I log in once in a while, but usually log off shortly thereafter in disgust. I follow the Reddit sub and this forum to satiate my morbid curiosity primarily, and then in the offchance Bioware shows signs of turning things around. So far, they've only made it clearer that they won't.
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Post by tatann on Mar 14, 2019 16:45:46 GMT
www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/b0r02x/thunderbolt_of_yvenia_is_bugged_on_storm_testing/tldr: Thunderbolt's lightning proc does 76% less damage on Storm than on everyone else for no apparent reason. I thought it felt different on different javs but I never bothered to actually check. Someone in the comments raises a very valid point: how can you trust anything in this game? This is why testing is so important. People who don't pay attention to things might have a rosy picture of gear itemization at the masterwork level because hey, there are lots of different MW effects and inscriptions to chase down and let's say you like lightning damage, well if you grab a few different things that boost lightning damage you're like awesome, all right, got my build let's rock and roll. But does it actually work, or is it just placebo? Tests are showing over and over that a large portion, maybe even a majority of items and effects in this game flat out don't work. The stalwart defenders and fanboys will say "oh well, it's just a bug, iM hAviNg fUn so who cares, they'll fix it" like they said with the absolute travesty of the level 1 weapon scaling issue. But reasonable people will learn these things and become rightfully upset at the plethora of broken mechanics. It also shows a flaw in the review process - how many reviewers knew that so many things under the hood were broken? How much lower might Anthem's critic scores have been if it were apparent? I know you dislike (hate ?) Andromeda, but it deserved to be reviewed a few months post release, after a few improvements were made (mainly some animations since the writing couldn't be saved) I also think Anthem should be reviewed in a few months, but this time just for the lolz
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 14, 2019 17:47:16 GMT
www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/b0r02x/thunderbolt_of_yvenia_is_bugged_on_storm_testing/tldr: Thunderbolt's lightning proc does 76% less damage on Storm than on everyone else for no apparent reason. I thought it felt different on different javs but I never bothered to actually check. Someone in the comments raises a very valid point: how can you trust anything in this game? This is why testing is so important. People who don't pay attention to things might have a rosy picture of gear itemization at the masterwork level because hey, there are lots of different MW effects and inscriptions to chase down and let's say you like lightning damage, well if you grab a few different things that boost lightning damage you're like awesome, all right, got my build let's rock and roll. But does it actually work, or is it just placebo? Tests are showing over and over that a large portion, maybe even a majority of items and effects in this game flat out don't work. The stalwart defenders and fanboys will say "oh well, it's just a bug, iM hAviNg fUn so who cares, they'll fix it" like they said with the absolute travesty of the level 1 weapon scaling issue. But reasonable people will learn these things and become rightfully upset at the plethora of broken mechanics. It also shows a flaw in the review process - how many reviewers knew that so many things under the hood were broken? How much lower might Anthem's critic scores have been if it were apparent? I know you dislike (hate ?) Andromeda, but it deserved to be reviewed a few months post release, after a few improvements were made (mainly some animations since the writing couldn't be saved) I also think Anthem should be reviewed in a few months, but this time just for the lolz That's nice and dandy but it dint make me try out the MP after the shit zhey served through launch culminating in lootocalypse. Maybe customers should just buy a few months after launch. Let's call it "post-ordering".
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Post by lennybusker on Mar 14, 2019 18:16:30 GMT
www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/b0r02x/thunderbolt_of_yvenia_is_bugged_on_storm_testing/tldr: Thunderbolt's lightning proc does 76% less damage on Storm than on everyone else for no apparent reason. I thought it felt different on different javs but I never bothered to actually check. Someone in the comments raises a very valid point: how can you trust anything in this game? This is why testing is so important. People who don't pay attention to things might have a rosy picture of gear itemization at the masterwork level because hey, there are lots of different MW effects and inscriptions to chase down and let's say you like lightning damage, well if you grab a few different things that boost lightning damage you're like awesome, all right, got my build let's rock and roll. But does it actually work, or is it just placebo? Tests are showing over and over that a large portion, maybe even a majority of items and effects in this game flat out don't work. The stalwart defenders and fanboys will say "oh well, it's just a bug, iM hAviNg fUn so who cares, they'll fix it" like they said with the absolute travesty of the level 1 weapon scaling issue. But reasonable people will learn these things and become rightfully upset at the plethora of broken mechanics. It also shows a flaw in the review process - how many reviewers knew that so many things under the hood were broken? How much lower might Anthem's critic scores have been if it were apparent? I know you dislike (hate ?) Andromeda, but it deserved to be reviewed a few months post release, after a few improvements were made (mainly some animations since the writing couldn't be saved) I also think Anthem should be reviewed in a few months, but this time just for the lolz It's definitely another flaw in the review process. I was thinking about this the other day. Only thing I could come up with is that review websites should try keeping a review tracker, maybe even show a graph of review score over time. I think it's fair to update the review if there are substantial changes to the game (or simply new information about the game comes to light in Anthem's case). The Division at launch versus The Division 1.8 is easily a 2 or 3 point improvement, IMO. Usually game sites will have plenty of articles about the game saying "hey they fixed stuff it's actually good now!" but it'd be even better if they actually showed that in their review score. In Anthem's case it would be completely fair for a 6/10 reviewer to go back and say "yeah it's even more broken than I realized (link link link), as of now I'm downgrading to a 4/10, will update the score as bugs are fixed". It might even light more of a fire under the devs' asses.
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Post by CHRrOME on Mar 14, 2019 18:42:40 GMT
I know you dislike (hate ?) Andromeda, but it deserved to be reviewed a few months post release, after a few improvements were made (mainly some animations since the writing couldn't be saved) I also think Anthem should be reviewed in a few months, but this time just for the lolz Why? Nor Anthem nor MEA were on early access, they released both games with a 60 dollar price tag. This is what I keep bringing up, everyone expects games to be a broken mess on release, and thus we should tolerate it after months or years have passed and they finally fixed most of the game's issues. That's just wrong. The game is not ready? don't release it. You do, then expect backlash.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 14, 2019 18:48:15 GMT
www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/b0r02x/thunderbolt_of_yvenia_is_bugged_on_storm_testing/tldr: Thunderbolt's lightning proc does 76% less damage on Storm than on everyone else for no apparent reason. I thought it felt different on different javs but I never bothered to actually check. Someone in the comments raises a very valid point: how can you trust anything in this game? This is why testing is so important. People who don't pay attention to things might have a rosy picture of gear itemization at the masterwork level because hey, there are lots of different MW effects and inscriptions to chase down and let's say you like lightning damage, well if you grab a few different things that boost lightning damage you're like awesome, all right, got my build let's rock and roll. But does it actually work, or is it just placebo? Tests are showing over and over that a large portion, maybe even a majority of items and effects in this game flat out don't work. The stalwart defenders and fanboys will say "oh well, it's just a bug, iM hAviNg fUn so who cares, they'll fix it" like they said with the absolute travesty of the level 1 weapon scaling issue. But reasonable people will learn these things and become rightfully upset at the plethora of broken mechanics. It also shows a flaw in the review process - how many reviewers knew that so many things under the hood were broken? How much lower might Anthem's critic scores have been if it were apparent? I know you dislike (hate ?) Andromeda, but it deserved to be reviewed a few months post release, after a few improvements were made (mainly some animations since the writing couldn't be saved) I also think Anthem should be reviewed in a few months, but this time just for the lolz Call me crazy, but I remember a time when released games were "ready for prime time"
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Post by saandrig on Mar 14, 2019 19:02:27 GMT
I know you dislike (hate ?) Andromeda, but it deserved to be reviewed a few months post release, after a few improvements were made (mainly some animations since the writing couldn't be saved) I also think Anthem should be reviewed in a few months, but this time just for the lolz Call me crazy, but I remember a time when released games were "ready for prime time" You are crazy. Can't expect developers to actually do a proper job. They haven't taken your lunch GaaS money yet.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Mar 14, 2019 19:50:16 GMT
What is this Gaas you are talking about?
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Post by bigbad on Mar 14, 2019 20:48:40 GMT
ME3MP was done by Bioware's Montreal office, as was Andromeda. Bioware Montreal was terminated, and some but not all of its employees were brought into EA Motive, also in Montreal, to work on different projects. Meant Montreal, sorry. So many studios names out there I mix shit up quite a lot. They created Rocket League afterwards. A mulitplayer game with millions of players that is doing well for years. For ME3's multiplayer they did the technical stuff to actually make it work, they balanced grinding vs. reward so that people liked to keep on playing it, etc. Interesting... I wonder if that had something to do with the fact that MEAMP is horrendous compared to ME3MP. Probably, because it feels like if a whole new team did that one and not the exact same people. I think you're onto something. I never understood how MEAMP managed to be so shitty compared to ME3MP (other than jet packs messing with movement diversity). This could help explain it.
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Post by Mobius Y on Mar 14, 2019 21:27:54 GMT
Meant Montreal, sorry. So many studios names out there I mix shit up quite a lot. Interesting... I wonder if that had something to do with the fact that MEAMP is horrendous compared to ME3MP. Probably, because it feels like if a whole new team did that one and not the exact same people. I think you're onto something. I never understood how MEAMP managed to be so shitty compared to ME3MP (other than jet packs messing with movement diversity). This could help explain it. Yeah ‘cuz Mass Effect 3’s multiplayer was jam-packed with variety content and almost completely bug-free at release.
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 14, 2019 21:32:37 GMT
I think you're onto something. I never understood how MEAMP managed to be so shitty compared to ME3MP (other than jet packs messing with movement diversity). This could help explain it. Yeah ‘cuz Mass Effect 3’s multiplayer was jam-packed with variety content and almost completely bug-free at release. Well there was a number of kits already ready to unlock, no? And we had Eric. He who buffeth and nerfeth and provided so many man-hours of forum PvP content it wouldn't fit in any of today's releases anymore.
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Post by Mobius Y on Mar 14, 2019 21:33:17 GMT
The stalwart defenders and fanboys will say "oh well, it's just a bug, iM hAviNg fUn so who cares, they'll fix it" like they said with the absolute travesty of the level 1 weapon scaling issue. But reasonable people will learn these things and become rightfully upset at the plethora of broken mechanics. It also shows a flaw in the review process - how many reviewers knew that so many things under the hood were broken? How much lower might Anthem's critic scores have been if it were apparent? Let me get this straight. Despite that I have learned and am aware of almost every catalogued issue and bug in Anthem, I’m still “unreasonable” because I’m not upset? Don’t get me wrong, I have my gripes, disappointments, and annoyances, but I’m far from upset. That still doesn’t meet your criteria, though.
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