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Post by tatann on Mar 14, 2019 21:39:06 GMT
Guys, I was just pointing that Andromeda got better with time, while Anthem is revealing to be a bigger mess everyday. I'm certainly not saying releasing an unfinished game is acceptable, the state of MEA is the reason I stopped having faith in current Bioware. And before you ask why I'm lurking here, it's because I love Mass Effect, not Bioware, not DA, just Mass Effect
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Post by NotN7 on Mar 14, 2019 21:44:42 GMT
Guys, I was just pointing that Andromeda got better with time, while Anthem is revealing to be a bigger mess everyday. I'm certainly not saying releasing an unfinished game is acceptable, the state of MEA is the reason I stopped havijust ng faith in current Bioware.And before you ask why I'm lurking here, it's because I love Mass Effect, not Bioware, not DA, Mass Effect Then if that's the case WHY ARE YOU IN THE Anthem Threads? OH! I know no one is posting in the Mass effect threads no more so you have no one else to complain to?
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Post by Mobius Y on Mar 14, 2019 21:46:59 GMT
Yeah ‘cuz Mass Effect 3’s multiplayer was jam-packed with variety content and almost completely bug-free at release. Well there was a number of kits already ready to unlock, no? And we had Eric. He who buffeth and nerfeth and provided so many man-hours of forum PvP content it wouldn't fit in any of today's releases anymore. So did Andromeda... And if I felt like furthering this tangential conversation while being nitpicky, I’d point out the only reason there was direct player-to-Eric communication on a daily basis regarding Mass Effect 3’s multiplayer was because at the time there was an official BioWare online forum. Which, obviously, was shut down before Andromeda even released. But this is an Anthem subforum so I’ll shut the fuck up.
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Post by tatann on Mar 14, 2019 22:51:43 GMT
Guys, I was just pointing that Andromeda got better with time, while Anthem is revealing to be a bigger mess everyday. I'm certainly not saying releasing an unfinished game is acceptable, the state of MEA is the reason I stopped havijust ng faith in current Bioware.And before you ask why I'm lurking here, it's because I love Mass Effect, not Bioware, not DA, Mass Effect Then if that's the case WHY ARE YOU IN THE Anthem Threads? OH! I know no one is posting in the Mass effect threads no more so you have no one else to complain to? Because "Mass Effect died for this" Also I could return the favor, asking what fanboys are doing in the anthem SKEPTICISM thread, which existed before the game came out And finally... "6 years of development" PS : "notN7" ? What are you even doing here ? Only N7 should be allowed in this forum (that's right, I can play dumb too)
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Post by OdanUrr on Mar 15, 2019 2:52:35 GMT
Looks like Schreier is working on an Anthem article.
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Post by shinobiwan on Mar 15, 2019 3:02:46 GMT
Looks like Schreier is working on an Anthem article. I hate Jason's reviews but his investigative journalism is top notch. Looking forward to finally getting some glimpse of what the fuck happened here.
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Post by shinobiwan on Mar 15, 2019 3:14:03 GMT
Well there was a number of kits already ready to unlock, no? And we had Eric. He who buffeth and nerfeth and provided so many man-hours of forum PvP content it wouldn't fit in any of today's releases anymore. So did Andromeda... And if I felt like furthering this tangential conversation while being nitpicky, I’d point out the only reason there was direct player-to-Eric communication on a daily basis regarding Mass Effect 3’s multiplayer was because at the time there was an official BioWare online forum. Which, obviously, was shut down before Andromeda even released. But this is an Anthem subforum so I’ll shut the fuck up. Me3 had plenty of content at launch. I had more fun with the ME3 demo than all of Anthem. ME3 also started getting significant new content within a month. The vanguard glitch is the only major bug I can recall. MEA may have started with a comparable amount of kits, but the vast majority of them were almost unplayably bad. The game launched in an awful state where combo and power damage was anemic, only one gun was really worth using (vanquisher), and melee kits were insanely OP. Then they trickled out like one kit a month (iirc, none with new powers until warp at the very end), dropped lootpocalypse, then pulled the plug. As to dev interaction, we had that until their game launched and it became clear Anthem was dogshit. Eric at least stuck it out through the ending fiasco.
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Post by shinobiwan on Mar 15, 2019 3:15:52 GMT
You left out the best part of that thread - armor and shields appear to scale THE WRONG FUCKING WAY as your item level goes up.
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Post by NotN7 on Mar 15, 2019 3:28:28 GMT
Then if that's the case WHY ARE YOU IN THE Anthem Threads? OH! I know no one is posting in the Mass effect threads no more so you have no one else to complain to? Because "Mass Effect died for this" Also I could return the favor, asking what fanboys are doing in the anthem SKEPTICISM thread, which existed before the game came out And finally... "6 years of development" PS : "notN7" ? What are you even doing here ? Only N7 should be allowed in this forum (that's right, I can play dumb too) OH really it did? prove it, and 2, I have posted a few post that showed my skepticism of Anthem and 3, you sure I'm a guy? and you should look at your P.S. yes it makes you look dumb. have a nice day.
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Post by wright1978 on Mar 15, 2019 6:58:45 GMT
Looks like Schreier is working on an Anthem article. Intrigued at what he’ll uncover
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 15, 2019 8:59:09 GMT
You left out the best part of that thread - armor and shields appear to scale THE WRONG FUCKING WAY as your item level goes up. The fuck? Lol.
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Post by river82 on Mar 15, 2019 9:30:43 GMT
Jason Schreier makes an appearance:
- I keep seeing people spread this idea that EA forced BioWare to make an online game. Not true. EA actually gives its studios a lot of autonomy. Executive pressure is more subtle than "Make this game!" - it's resource maneuvering and "Where's your version of FIFA Ultimate Team?" - YouTubers propagate the narrative that EA forced BioWare to make a Destiny clone, which is very much false. EA's pressures are more subtle and complicated than that. - (responding to a statement which said EA forced Bioware to ship early) That's true. Having to plan releases around a fiscal calendar is totally fucked up and unsustainable. But, on the flip side, the game had been in development since 2012-2013. Not unreasonable for EA executives to look at that timeline and say enough is enough - "Where's your version of FIFA Ultimate Team?" doesn't mean that every game literally has to do playing cards and loot boxes. It means "Where's your long-term revenue stream?" EA isn't interested in putting big money into video games unless they can have a revenue tail - that's not EA going to BioWare and saying "you need to make us a Destiny clone" - it's EA saying "if you want resources, show us how your game is going to make long-term revenue." Huge difference there! - (in response to a question asking whether Anthem was meant to be Bioware's long term revenue cow so they can continue DA and ME) Nah. DA4 was rebooted to be a live service game too - Assassin's Creed Odyssey is a single-player game with a live revenue stream. EA studios get plenty of pressure to do online stuff, but it's not like Andrew Wilson came to BioWare and said "make a Destiny clone." BioWare's leadership chose this path. - (Asked whether Anthem had problems with Frostbite and if EA can still force devs to use it even with all the problems) Yes and yes.
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Post by saandrig on Mar 15, 2019 9:31:08 GMT
You left out the best part of that thread - armor and shields appear to scale THE WRONG FUCKING WAY as your item level goes up. The fuck? Lol. Yeah, the higher your gear score, the more damage you take. Funny. But! There are some tests that indicate that melee and Ultimate damage are tied to your AVERAGE gear score. Not the gear score number, but the average score of all your pieces (a 75 points Legendary and a 61 MW give average of 68). So any Epic you have basically kills your melee/Ultimate to the ground. You may have Epics with huge bonuses to melee/Ultimate (I have, used them and the results were pathetic, so I do believe this to be true) and your calculations may show that your damage should be 3x better than your MW loadout. Wrong! Just put all MW gear and you will deal much more melee/Ultimate damage no matter the gear stats, even if the Epic slots gave you 200% more melee on paper. But wait, there is more! The best melee/Ultimate multiplier is actually tied to your weapon slot. So for best results - just use any Legendary weapon you got (stats don't matter) and you will deal more melee/Ultimate damage than a MW that has 100% bonuses for that. Conclusion? The more Legendaries you have on, the higher your average gear score is and the better your melee/Ultimate becomes no matter the gear stats. After patch 1.03 (the culprit) I have seen Interceptors in GM2 with full Legendaries and crappy gear stats (according to them) and their melee is off the fucking charts. I got just 5 Legendary pieces I can use on my Interceptor, but I will try to get more (no Support gear) just for the lulzies. This is why there is no point having a stat page. Stats mean nothing in this game.
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Post by General Mahad on Mar 15, 2019 11:49:54 GMT
You left out the best part of that thread - armor and shields appear to scale THE WRONG FUCKING WAY as your item level goes up. So what your saying is this game is a failure of a lootbox shooter, a failure of game design, and a failure of logic in general.
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 15, 2019 11:59:35 GMT
Ye, saw that. It doesn't look good. Why is it all fucked up so bad?
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Post by lennybusker on Mar 15, 2019 12:20:17 GMT
Ye, saw that. It doesn't look good. Why is it all fucked up so bad? media.giphy.com/media/YzvPqrOVoS9tC/giphy.gifSo equipping a Legendary gives you a massive boost simply because it's a Legendary, and not because of any stats on it at all. Jesus H. Christ. This is so fucking embarrassing. Queue lots of "iM hAvInG fUn tHo" defenders.
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 15, 2019 12:22:45 GMT
Ye, saw that. It doesn't look good. Why is it all fucked up so bad? media.giphy.com/media/YzvPqrOVoS9tC/giphy.gifSo equipping a Legendary gives you a massive boost simply because it's a Legendary, and not because of any stats on it at all. Jesus H. Christ. This is so fucking embarrassing. Queue lots of "iM hAvInG fUn tHo" defenders. Fuck inscriptions. Don't you dare try out making a build with them, just get a Legendary.
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Post by shinobiwan on Mar 15, 2019 12:36:44 GMT
Ye, saw that. It doesn't look good. Why is it all fucked up so bad? media.giphy.com/media/YzvPqrOVoS9tC/giphy.gifSo equipping a Legendary gives you a massive boost simply because it's a Legendary, and not because of any stats on it at all. Jesus H. Christ. This is so fucking embarrassing. Queue lots of "iM hAvInG fUn tHo" defenders. It's such a massive boost that you can thrash stronghold bosses in seconds. Ironically, if you have all legendaries, you have absolutely no incentive to defeat a stronghold boss.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Mar 15, 2019 12:39:24 GMT
Jason Schreier makes an appearance: - I keep seeing people spread this idea that EA forced BioWare to make an online game. Not true. EA actually gives its studios a lot of autonomy. Executive pressure is more subtle than "Make this game!" - it's resource maneuvering and "Where's your version of FIFA Ultimate Team?" - YouTubers propagate the narrative that EA forced BioWare to make a Destiny clone, which is very much false. EA's pressures are more subtle and complicated than that. - (responding to a statement which said EA forced Bioware to ship early) That's true. Having to plan releases around a fiscal calendar is totally fucked up and unsustainable. But, on the flip side, the game had been in development since 2012-2013. Not unreasonable for EA executives to look at that timeline and say enough is enough - "Where's your version of FIFA Ultimate Team?" doesn't mean that every game literally has to do playing cards and loot boxes. It means "Where's your long-term revenue stream?" EA isn't interested in putting big money into video games unless they can have a revenue tail - that's not EA going to BioWare and saying "you need to make us a Destiny clone" - it's EA saying "if you want resources, show us how your game is going to make long-term revenue." Huge difference there! - (in response to a question asking whether Anthem was meant to be Bioware's long term revenue cow so they can continue DA and ME) Nah. DA4 was rebooted to be a live service game too - Assassin's Creed Odyssey is a single-player game with a live revenue stream. EA studios get plenty of pressure to do online stuff, but it's not like Andrew Wilson came to BioWare and said "make a Destiny clone." BioWare's leadership chose this path. - (Asked whether Anthem had problems with Frostbite and if EA can still force devs to use it even with all the problems) Yes and yes.Been saying for a while that there is something very wrong with Bioware's project management and talent these days seeing how much development time they get and how underwhelming the results are... While one could deduce from Schreier's post that Anthem was perhaps rebooted halfway through development from a singleplayer shooter to a GaaS looter shooter they obviously were ill equipped to pull off well just to appease EA's non specific pressuring, there is no excuse for bad game design. Get new talent who can do what you want to do. TALK to people who have experience, LEARN from them. Horizon Zero Dawn is proof that you can do something you have no experience with and do it very well IF YOU CONSULT THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS. How Anthem released with the exact same issues as looter shooters from ten years ago is just mind boggling. Either they live in a total bubble where they keep grossly overestimating their competences or they rebooted Anthem way too late to pull of something better than what we got. In either case, that's on Bioware.
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