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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Mar 2, 2018 15:07:39 GMT
I think last time we encountered such a bastard on Plat, we left him after two revives to die. I think he left also... theres a limit for my friendlines
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 3, 2018 14:56:52 GMT
I still play the MP several times a week (because my best gaming buddy won't play anything else) and I think it's pretty awful. I'm far too lazy and disconnected to go into every reason why, but here's a few of them. I will never, ever pre order another Bioware game. If Anthem reviews say it's the best game ever and EA hasn't loaded it full of paywalls, PTW loot boxes and RNG loot boxes, I'll still wait for it to hit the bargain bin. And that's just the MP game, I'm not even going to get into the horribleness of the SP game. See the below video if you want a run down of that POS. That video and blogger is.. prejudiced to say the least, typical sonyboy crying for developer to entertain him and which can't accept the fact that majority prefers gameplay and freedom in games first of all, and linear scripted interactive movie is secondary thing. Andromeda is far from perfect, especially first unpatched version, but it has it's good sides with graphics, combat, character progression (which sucks in most modern games) and main quests (plus arks/loyality missions) are OK. And also size matters, show me 2017 100-hour single player game of AAA-quality.. mm.. none, sorry. Of course, original trilogy ME or TES5/GTA5/Witcher3 are better then MEA, but well those are one of the best games in all history, you can't expect every new game with similar gameplay to surpass them. I can't listen to that guy
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Post by gnperdue on Mar 3, 2018 18:08:41 GMT
Unfortunately that's a rather short boon because they also tend to get downed quite fast... And never self-reviving, because that would eat into their profits. It drives me crazy when those folks won’t recive themselves to get a full extraction, or to help with a really tight wave 6 objective. I mean, they stand to make way more credits on success than they spend on a consumable. So why not use one?
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Post by Scathane on Mar 4, 2018 3:02:31 GMT
I can't listen to that guy Why not? #honestquestion
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 4, 2018 9:44:00 GMT
I can't listen to that guy Why not? #honestquestion whiney and annoying
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Post by reyzaburrel on Mar 6, 2018 8:14:25 GMT
I still play the MP several times a week (because my best gaming buddy won't play anything else) and I think it's pretty awful. I'm far too lazy and disconnected to go into every reason why, but here's a few of them. I will never, ever pre order another Bioware game. If Anthem reviews say it's the best game ever and EA hasn't loaded it full of paywalls, PTW loot boxes and RNG loot boxes, I'll still wait for it to hit the bargain bin. And that's just the MP game, I'm not even going to get into the horribleness of the SP game. See the below video if you want a run down of that POS. That video and blogger is.. prejudiced to say the least, typical sonyboy crying for developer to entertain him and which can't accept the fact that majority prefers gameplay and freedom in games first of all, and linear scripted interactive movie is secondary thing. Andromeda is far from perfect, especially first unpatched version, but it has it's good sides with graphics, combat, character progression (which sucks in most modern games) and main quests (plus arks/loyality missions) are OK. And also size matters, show me 2017 100-hour single player game of AAA-quality.. mm.. none, sorry. Of course, original trilogy ME or TES5/GTA5/Witcher3 are better then MEA, but well those are one of the best games in all history, you can't expect every new game with similar gameplay to surpass them. Andromeda sucked donkey dongs! The story was mediocre, the animations were amateur, the games engine was terrible, the characters weren't interesting, the gameplay was boring, and so on. There is no good side of this game. Majority of it was bad. Sorry, I had to correct your sentence, but "Show me a game in 2017 thats a single player of AAA quality?" Wait hold up, what AAA quality? Where was that? There was no AAA quality in the game. The main studio didn't even work on the game and left it in the hand of a bunch of amateurs.Oh and to answer you question about naming another SP title in 2017 that you can put 100+ hour in and thats of AAA quality. Uhh, Persona 5. Uhh, Breath of the Wild. Uhh, Horizon ZD. Uhh, Nioh. You're welcome.
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Post by snowleopard25 on Mar 6, 2018 18:54:53 GMT
That video and blogger is.. prejudiced to say the least, typical sonyboy crying for developer to entertain him and which can't accept the fact that majority prefers gameplay and freedom in games first of all, and linear scripted interactive movie is secondary thing. Andromeda is far from perfect, especially first unpatched version, but it has it's good sides with graphics, combat, character progression (which sucks in most modern games) and main quests (plus arks/loyality missions) are OK. And also size matters, show me 2017 100-hour single player game of AAA-quality.. mm.. none, sorry. Of course, original trilogy ME or TES5/GTA5/Witcher3 are better then MEA, but well those are one of the best games in all history, you can't expect every new game with similar gameplay to surpass them. Andromeda sucked donkey dongs! The story was mediocre, the animations were amateur, the games engine was terrible, the characters weren't interesting, the gameplay was boring, and so on. There is no good side of this game. Majority of it was bad. Sorry, I had to correct your sentence, but "Show me a game in 2017 thats a single player of AAA quality?" Wait hold up, what AAA quality? Where was that? There was no AAA quality in the game. The main studio didn't even work on the game and left it in the hand of a bunch of amateurs.Oh and to answer you question about naming another SP title in 2017 that you can put 100+ hour in and thats of AAA quality. Uhh, Persona 5. Uhh, Breath of the Wild. Uhh, Horizon ZD. Uhh, Nioh. You're welcome. Thanks for your input. Out of curiosity (since this is the multiplayer forum), which multiplayer games did you put 100+ hours into in 2017? (Nioh has MP, but the others have no MP at all...)
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Post by tatann on Mar 6, 2018 19:29:44 GMT
Andromeda sucked donkey dongs! The story was mediocre, the animations were amateur, the games engine was terrible, the characters weren't interesting, the gameplay was boring, and so on. There is no good side of this game. Majority of it was bad. Sorry, I had to correct your sentence, but "Show me a game in 2017 thats a single player of AAA quality?" Wait hold up, what AAA quality? Where was that? There was no AAA quality in the game. The main studio didn't even work on the game and left it in the hand of a bunch of amateurs.Oh and to answer you question about naming another SP title in 2017 that you can put 100+ hour in and thats of AAA quality. Uhh, Persona 5. Uhh, Breath of the Wild. Uhh, Horizon ZD. Uhh, Nioh. You're welcome. Thanks for your input. Out of curiosity (since this is the multiplayer forum), which multiplayer games did you put 100+ hours into in 2017? (Nioh has MP, but the others have no MP at all...) Coop multiplayer games of course, otherwise it's too easy
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Post by gnperdue on Mar 7, 2018 20:11:13 GMT
Does anyone know how much longer BioWare will run the Strike Team servers? I am afraid they’ll stop at the 1 year anniversary...
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Post by vanelsa on Mar 7, 2018 22:09:27 GMT
Does anyone know how much longer BioWare will run the Strike Team servers? I am afraid they’ll stop at the 1 year anniversary... I figured that these were mostly automated, aside from those APEX missions that gave out free APEX Elite or Celebratory Packs or those that used the Remnant Vault map. I'm hoping that they'll continue like the ME3MP servers for many more years, but who knows outside of EA and Bioware?
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Post by gnperdue on Mar 8, 2018 3:20:20 GMT
I think they’re automated too, but automated isn’t free. Anyway, I hope they’re up for a long time too...
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Post by smeckie on Mar 8, 2018 12:33:10 GMT
Bartolo Colon is my best example of how badly they missed on this game This game was a giant shit sandwich with a shit flavored ice cream for dessert.
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Post by gnperdue on Mar 8, 2018 12:44:26 GMT
They did release a beta for full price but the final game is great.
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Post by Arkhne on Mar 8, 2018 19:50:19 GMT
They did release a beta for full price but the final game is great. If you discount the character design, and the dialogue in SP, and the character design, dialogue, and balance in MP. And ignore all the bugs that still plague both SP and MP, yeah, sure, once you discount all that, it's "great". I'm not saying that it's without merit, but "great" really is too far a stretch. Yes, it has come a LONG way since the original release, but it is STILL buggy, and the writting is abysmal.
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Post by gnperdue on Mar 8, 2018 20:07:10 GMT
The writing is fully in-line for the game category. Writing dialog for a game this big is hard. Games with good writing tend to be short and linear, which is fine, but I like bigger games too.
As for bugs, etc., again, there are a few that are irritating, but any game that gets hundreds of hours of play is always going to have a harder time than a short, linear title.
In other words, you have to keep difficulty of execution in mind when judging a game. Compared to its peers, MEA is pretty darn good, at least now. The multiplayer was pretty bad out of the box and I feel people still penalize it for that today, even though today’s game is very different from the launch title.
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Post by Arkhne on Mar 8, 2018 20:34:33 GMT
The writing is fully in-line for the game category. Writing dialog for a game this big is hard. Games with good writing tend to be short and linear, which is fine, but I like bigger games too.
As for bugs, etc., again, there are a few that are irritating, but any game that gets hundreds of hours of play is always going to have a harder time than a short, linear title. In other words, you have to keep difficulty of execution in mind when judging a game. Compared to its peers, MEA is pretty darn good, at least now. The multiplayer was pretty bad out of the box and I feel people still penalize it for that today, even though today’s game is very different from the launch title. Take a look at ME2, then take a look at ME3's Citadel DLC. One is how you write sci-fi, one is how you right drivel for idiots. It's not about linearity or size, it's about treating your characters and players as immature morons. You seem to be totally hung up on linear vs open-world, but fact of the matter is, shitty coding is shitty coding, regardless of the world you set it in. Bugs are INEXCUSABLE in games developed by a studio. And the places where they ARE excusable (indie devs) are also the places where they are dealt with quicker, and often completely eradicated. Contrasting Junkware AAA that seem to treat ever release as an alpha-test, and final products with gamebreaking bugs is not only acceptable, but the best that they can aim for with their "budget concerns". But I see you're just going to totally ignore all this, as you're clearly an apologist defending shitty products with massive price tags just because they have your prefered logo on the box.
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Post by gnperdue on Mar 8, 2018 21:10:14 GMT
Well, you can swear a lot, but that isn’t analysis. Nobody will mistake any of the Mass Effect games as being written by David Mamet. I loved ME2 and 3, but they were only marginally better written than MEA, and it is hard to pick apart the effects of nostalgia.
Now, you’re right I give the game some slack because I like the Mass Effect universe so much and love is a funny thing. When you really like something, you can overlook faults that might drive another person crazy. Welcome to marriage, LOL.
The fundamental point I want to get across to anyone who might be reading this who maybe worked on the game or maybe will work on another game is this - MEA launched as a beta, and that was a serious mistake, but it grew into a really fun game and I appreciate the efforts. For anyone thinking about picking it up for the first time, if for some odd reason you’re reading this, I really encourage you to give it a shot. It is a bit too grindy, but the core game really is a lot of fun and some of the best Mass Effect combat ever.
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Post by poultrymancer on Mar 8, 2018 21:28:30 GMT
Kinda thought this board had long since seen its last real disagreement - mostly because I didn't think there remained in the world any two people who gave any quantity of shits.
Riveting stuff though; please continue.
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Post by Arkhne on Mar 8, 2018 23:18:13 GMT
Well, you can swear a lot, but that isn’t analysis. Nobody will mistake any of the Mass Effect games as being written by David Mamet. I loved ME2 and 3, but they were only marginally better written than MEA, and it is hard to pick apart the effects of nostalgia. Now, you’re right I give the game some slack because I like the Mass Effect universe so much and love is a funny thing. When you really like something, you can overlook faults that might drive another person crazy. Welcome to marriage, LOL. The fundamental point I want to get across to anyone who might be reading this who maybe worked on the game or maybe will work on another game is this - MEA launched as a beta, and that was a serious mistake, but it grew into a really fun game and I appreciate the efforts. For anyone thinking about picking it up for the first time, if for some odd reason you’re reading this, I really encourage you to give it a shot. It is a bit too grindy, but the core game really is a lot of fun and some of the best Mass Effect combat ever. Let me put it in terms you might understand since you seem to want to ignore the information for choice of language. Lets start with something easy that any MP player can tell you happens frequently. Sound bug, BioWare whines "It's a Frostbite issue, we can't fix it." In what other Frostbite game does this happen? I personally have 6 Frostbite games, on two seperate platforms, with more hours than ME:A, not even once has ANY of them had that, and same story from every other person I've spoken to who plays Frostbite games. So no, it's not a Frostbite issue, it's a bad code by BioWare issue. As for the Writing I mentioned, in what Universe would a habitual failure like Liam have been in a supposedly elite Crisis Response squad? Guy couldn't even react to a smoke alarm telling him it needed a new battery without setting fire to the house to see if it was working. No, this is writters treating their audience like morons because they're willing to overlook everything because they slapped a "Mass Effect by BioWare" logo on it. This is not marriage, if my wife treating my like a moron like that, we wouldn't be married, we respect each other. Welcome to an abusive relationship where you're so mentally beaten by your partner that you don't believe that you deserve any better. The fundamental point that I want to get across is not "can I have fun with this now-discount-bin-inhabitting title that I can get on sale?" (if you can get a game that you're even vaguely interested in for less than a movie ticket, it's worth the risk, because if you play it for more than 2hrs, you're better off), it's that the state of the games market has become just like that abusive relationship I mentioned, because of people who should know better, throwing their money at games before they're even released and defending unfinished, often buggy products, just because they have their favourite brand logo on it. It's Nike vs Adidas all over again, except now it's not braindead teenagers, it's nerds, a group who prides themselves on their intellect. Was this any clearer for you?
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Post by vanelsa on Mar 8, 2018 23:49:50 GMT
Kinda thought this board had long since seen its last real disagreement - mostly because I didn't think there remained in the world any two people who gave any quantity of shits. Riveting stuff though; please continue. And I thought that you had left this board. Have you been enjoying my Platinum solos? Have a favorite among them?
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Post by gnperdue on Mar 9, 2018 0:38:09 GMT
Arkhne, the issues you raise are generally either not that bad or not that unusual. I’ve logged hundreds of hours with MEA by now and while yes, I’ve seen some bugs, they’re not really a big deal. Things were bad at launch, but in MP, that was mostly balance. All the facial animations are not problematic, and they’re fixed now anyway for when I do get around to the campaign.
If they really bother you so much, what are you doing here? I don’t think posting incessant streams of negative commentary is going to improve anything. At this point, the bugs are documented and we live with them. Or not. Whichever you prefer. All I know is that the game as it stands today, while not perfect, is a ton of fun and way better in the experience of playing it than it’s reputation suggests.
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Post by gnperdue on Mar 9, 2018 0:40:48 GMT
Kinda thought this board had long since seen its last real disagreement - mostly because I didn't think there remained in the world any two people who gave any quantity of shits. Riveting stuff though; please continue. And I thought that you had left this board. Have you been enjoying my Platinum solos? Have a favorite among them? I’ve learned a lot from the Gold solos too. You should consider some runs with only rare and uncommon guns (and characters), just to showcase some of them, etc.
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Post by q5tyhj on Mar 9, 2018 0:53:24 GMT
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Post by vanelsa on Mar 9, 2018 0:58:30 GMT
And I thought that you had left this board. Have you been enjoying my Platinum solos? Have a favorite among them? I’ve learned a lot from the Gold solos too. You should consider some runs with only rare and uncommon guns (and characters), just to showcase some of them, etc. Yes, I've been thinking of that too. Any suggestions?
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Post by gnperdue on Mar 9, 2018 1:12:10 GMT
All Uncommons run! Let’s see Turian Soldier with a Cyclone, Salarian Infiltrator with a Widow (or Raptor), Krogan Vanguard with a Ruzad, Asari Adept with a Disciple, etc.
The tough part is all the Uncommon pistols are bad. The characters are all pretty good, although for flavor reasons I have a lot of trouble accepting the Krogan Engineer, LOL.
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