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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 12, 2018 5:25:33 GMT
I don’t see what the point of removing it is. They should’ve just removed the insignia. The lower tier Pathfinder armors still have the N7 clearly visible. they might have just done that too. As I said its been a while since I looked into it. Ok so I’m at the research terminal, and I can still craft all of the N7 gear. I can’t remember if it was ever something we could purchase from a vendor, but we can still technically make the armor if we want.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 12, 2018 5:34:11 GMT
Good. Please reserve judgment until after playing. You may or may not like it but it's way too easy to fall into the trap of "I like/hate this because everyone says I should." And it can get overwhelming. Welcome, and I hope you have fun! On the other hand I think its hard not to form opinions on something as you are doing said thing and your opinions can vary wildly until you get to the 'finished product'. Plus in games like this too one's playing experience can vary wildly simply by the order of which you do things and how fast you do certain things. I guess. My opinion has changed since I first began playing MEA, not necessarily for the better, but I still enjoy the game. Got my heart set on a Scott/Jaal romance because I've heard it's sweet. Had meant to do it last run but unbeknownst to me the fling you could have with Reyes now counts as a true romance and I wasn't about to start over just to do that. It can wait until my next run (though that may end up being Sara/Peebee depending on reviews I hear about it in the character & romance sub-forum).
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Post by colfoley on Mar 12, 2018 5:37:14 GMT
On the other hand I think its hard not to form opinions on something as you are doing said thing and your opinions can vary wildly until you get to the 'finished product'. Plus in games like this too one's playing experience can vary wildly simply by the order of which you do things and how fast you do certain things. I guess. My opinion has changed since I first began playing MEA, not necessarily for the better, but I still enjoy the game. Got my heart set on a Scott/Jaal romance because I've heard it's sweet. Had meant to do it last run but unbeknownst to me the fling you could have with Reyes now counts as a true romance and I wasn't about to start over just to do that. It can wait until my next run (though that may end up being Sara/Peebee depending on reviews I hear about it in the character & romance sub-forum). Mine too honestly. But I think that happen to a lot of games you play a lot of. My last PT of DA I was even getting long in the tooth and that is my favorite game of all time. So I have not played DA I in a year or so as a result...going to be doing it again soon.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 12, 2018 5:38:08 GMT
they might have just done that too. As I said its been a while since I looked into it. Ok so I’m at the research terminal, and I can still craft all of the N7 gear. I can’t remember if it was ever something we could purchase from a vendor, but we can still technically make the armor if we want. Yeah, that's what I almost always craft. Just mad it last month so its still there +biotic power!! Personally I think they should have re-branded it or required some kind of quest chain where you unofficially get N7 designation. Also weird to me that the N7 is the biotic gear, I suspect most N7s have no biotic potential as its the human special forces.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 12, 2018 5:42:22 GMT
I don't think I'll play again for a good while. I did 5 playthroughs in 2017, it was my 'most played' game that year. But props to those who are still enjoying it. I may still pop in for some MEAMP when the mood strikes. I usually have huge gaps between plays so it always feel newish. And after my first NG+ I wont be doing that again. The only challenge I've found is really early in the game when you still suck at everything. Maybe way past level 80 a challenge kicks in or if I focus on powers that I don't like. But I don't think I'll ever max all 3 trees on the same character like that.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 12, 2018 5:58:58 GMT
Sometimes I think the pro BSN faction and the anti BSN faction have fought so long we have essentially become a married couple and all of this bickering is just people who really like each other and aren't that serious about it. Or they are serious about it and which I say let them duke it out. I'll bring the popcorn...
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 12, 2018 6:03:33 GMT
I originally refused to wear N7 armor on the grounds that I "didn't earn it". Then I decided that the whole idea of coming to Andromeda was to leave the past as much in the past as possible. Then I thought about Avitus Rix. His being a Spectre didn't count for much in Andromeda, other than that it probably meant he was a great fighter (which is why I make him become pathfinder regardless of what he wants). Similarly, the only N7 in Andromeda (that we know of) was Alec Ryder and he's dead. What we do know is that Scott and Sara received some informal N7 training from their father, which is why they're more capable than they ought to be given their youth and relatively brief time in the Alliance before Daddy's work on artificial intelligence ruined their careers forever.
Point is, I'm no longer concerned with whether or not it's been "earned". Whichever Ryder you play is the Pathfinder and needs armor that's superior to anything else around, given the types of battles s/he engages in. Nostalgia is a poor reason to go in to battle unprepared.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 12, 2018 6:16:45 GMT
I originally refused to wear N7 armor on the grounds that I "didn't earn it". Then I decided that the whole idea of coming to Andromeda was to leave the past as much in the past as possible. Then I thought about Avitus Rix. His being a Spectre didn't count for much in Andromeda, other than that it probably meant he was a great fighter (which is why I make him become pathfinder regardless of what he wants). Similarly, the only N7 in Andromeda (that we know of) was Alec Ryder and he's dead. What we do know is that Scott and Sara received some informal N7 training from their father, which is why they're more capable than they ought to be given their youth and relatively brief time in the Alliance before Daddy's work on artificial intelligence ruined their careers forever. Point is, I'm no longer concerned with whether or not it's been "earned". Whichever Ryder you play is the Pathfinder and needs armor that's superior to anything else around, given the types of battles s/he engages in. Nostalgia is a poor reason to go in to battle unprepared. On the mechanics of the gear I agree(god I hated the customization system), but getting the symbol should have required earning it IMO. I suspect with your father having been one the ryder kids would respect that.
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Post by Kabraxal on Mar 12, 2018 6:59:42 GMT
One thing this playthrough taught me... we need beter team AI and a cover button. I am finally insanity running and I have died waaaaaaay too much. ME2, mostly because of the Collector ship, killed me maybe 100 times. Maybe. This... at least 250. Fuck Jaal’s loyalty mission and Behemoths. Just fuck em.
Love the story and character still... obviously if I’m banging my head up against that tedious wall. How you know a true great from the oretenders... will I suffer tedium to 100 percent you.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 12, 2018 10:45:25 GMT
Point is, I'm no longer concerned with whether or not it's been "earned". Whichever Ryder you play is the Pathfinder and needs armor that's superior to anything else around, given the types of battles s/he engages in. Nostalgia is a poor reason to go in to battle unprepared. Significant head canon inbound: I had Ryder wear it after Habitat-7 as an homage to Alec and as bravado. I view it as Alec's armor, albeit for Sara Ryder, *cough* extensively customized. And I took care to don Pathfinder armor immediately before my final save, so that the next New Game+ playthrough would have me with base armor.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 12, 2018 12:00:38 GMT
I originally refused to wear N7 armor on the grounds that I "didn't earn it". Then I decided that the whole idea of coming to Andromeda was to leave the past as much in the past as possible. Then I thought about Avitus Rix. His being a Spectre didn't count for much in Andromeda, other than that it probably meant he was a great fighter (which is why I make him become pathfinder regardless of what he wants). Similarly, the only N7 in Andromeda (that we know of) was Alec Ryder and he's dead. What we do know is that Scott and Sara received some informal N7 training from their father, which is why they're more capable than they ought to be given their youth and relatively brief time in the Alliance before Daddy's work on artificial intelligence ruined their careers forever. Point is, I'm no longer concerned with whether or not it's been "earned". Whichever Ryder you play is the Pathfinder and needs armor that's superior to anything else around, given the types of battles s/he engages in. Nostalgia is a poor reason to go in to battle unprepared. On the mechanics of the gear I agree(god I hated the customization system), but getting the symbol should have required earning it IMO. I suspect with your father having been one the ryder kids would respect that. Except for one thing. The Alliance and their military ranking system does not exist in Andromeda. I just watched Black Panther the other night. One character is handed some armor to wear but the person she's giving it to says something along the lines of her not being one of the warriors who wears it (meaning it's privileged). The other person responds with a comment about it being armor and to just put it on. While I might see your point about the N7 part itself, and I do get that, it's a fault of the game for forcing it. Therefore, I'm not going to deny Ryder putting it on simply because BioWare decided the symbol needed to be there.
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Post by souljahbill14 on Mar 12, 2018 14:19:05 GMT
My Vanguard Scott uses the N7 Helmet, arms, and legs but the HyperGuardian chest. I used to care about keeping a set “complete” but now 3 of my 4 Ryder’s have 1 piece of armor not a part of the set. Only my Explorer Sarah wears a complete (Pathfinder) armor set.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 12, 2018 15:27:31 GMT
My Vanguard Scott uses the N7 Helmet, arms, and legs but the HyperGuardian chest. I used to care about keeping a set “complete” but now 3 of my 4 Ryder’s have 1 piece of armor not a part of the set. Only my Explorer Sarah wears a complete (Pathfinder) armor set. I was never really one for complete armor, especially in ME3. My favorite setup was the Hahne-Kedar mixed with Serrice Council with the only N7 bit being the helmet.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 12, 2018 15:51:56 GMT
My Vanguard Scott uses the N7 Helmet, arms, and legs but the HyperGuardian chest. I used to care about keeping a set “complete” but now 3 of my 4 Ryder’s have 1 piece of armor not a part of the set. Only my Explorer Sarah wears a complete (Pathfinder) armor set. I was never really one for complete armor, especially in ME3. My favorite setup was the Hahne-Kedar mixed with Serrice Council with the only N7 bit being the helmet. Hahne-kedar is the best armour to mix and match for 5 of the classes. Save for Vanguard, only the that armour that boosts melee damage works for Vanguards.
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Post by xassantex on Mar 12, 2018 17:12:02 GMT
i'm doing a new run as soldier, Ghost + turbocharge is silly , and that's only a Ghost 1 on Insanity !!
I never craft stuff , i sell everything ! and buy whatever i need/want . I wore the N7 in a Biotic run. I had read that Bradley says something if you wear the complete armor, but i didn't get that so, whatever. This time it will be Hyperguardian .
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 12, 2018 17:18:12 GMT
I was never really one for complete armor, especially in ME3. My favorite setup was the Hahne-Kedar mixed with Serrice Council with the only N7 bit being the helmet. Hahne-kedar is the best armour to mix and match for 5 of the classes. Save for Vanguard, only the that armour that boosts melee damage works for Vanguards. I always considered the actual benefits of each armor set to be rather negligible in ME3. That percentage boost of any given perk doesn't really seem to give me a meaningful difference in how effectively I kill things, even on higher difficulty. I'm basically in it for the look.
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Post by molochicken on Mar 13, 2018 9:43:46 GMT
I have started a NG+ recently. Since I dropped MEA June last year, I got a lot of patched weapons and automatic augmentation to go through. Considering I am now lv90, there are also some end game weapons to go for. Here are some of them:
King of anything - automatic Valkyrie X Automatic bio converter Hesh X Bio converter Dhan X 2 vintage heat sink Ishray X for switching Rebalanced field coil Ishray X Beam emmiter/ tracking plasma Soned X Sticky grenade launcher Talon X Eletric conduit PAW X Automatic Reegar X Tracking Plasma Piranha X Automatic/ bio converter Shadow X Automatic Sweeper X Battle field assist module Black Widow X Melee buffing Ruzad with Hpyerguardian chest X Full set Remnant armour X with all kinetic coils Head, Hands and Leg Kett Armor X Full set Maverick armour X(Annoying leg is still bugged)
I am not even half way down the list. There are so many items and research to go for.Probably need 3rd playthrough to get all of them.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 13, 2018 15:08:15 GMT
Hahne-kedar is the best armour to mix and match for 5 of the classes. Save for Vanguard, only the that armour that boosts melee damage works for Vanguards. I always considered the actual benefits of each armor set to be rather negligible in ME3. That percentage boost of any given perk doesn't really seem to give me a meaningful difference in how effectively I kill things, even on higher difficulty. I'm basically in it for the look. Me, too, but my preference is for the N7 look. That's not necessarily the same look I seek in MEA, where I prefer Hyperguardian. There are some helmets in MEA that I really dislike.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 13, 2018 15:24:47 GMT
I always considered the actual benefits of each armor set to be rather negligible in ME3. That percentage boost of any given perk doesn't really seem to give me a meaningful difference in how effectively I kill things, even on higher difficulty. I'm basically in it for the look. Me, too, but my preference is for the N7 look. That's not necessarily the same look I seek in MEA, where I prefer Hyperguardian. There are some helmets in MEA that I really dislike. If I had one complaint about the Hyperguardian, it's that every dead male we find is wearing it lol. I guess it didn't work out so well for them.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 14, 2018 2:14:36 GMT
I suppose I'll do annual for now. Almost through my second playthrough of the game on pc with a few mods. Less playable but it looks prettier than on PS4.
There's a point when you're around 20 to 30 hours in where you just go "Man, I like this game a lot." and then around the end missions or the tail-end of the Ryder Family Secrets questline the game quietly dies again for me. It's so stuck in retreading ME1's formula to a T and the core story has intrigue rooted in the parts that IMO failed in ME3, as intriguing as they started to become here. It's hard not to like the fanservice revealed in those logs though, but idk man, this game is such a mixed bag of potential and stuff that was never gonna be any good.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 14, 2018 4:24:12 GMT
I always considered the actual benefits of each armor set to be rather negligible in ME3. That percentage boost of any given perk doesn't really seem to give me a meaningful difference in how effectively I kill things, even on higher difficulty. I'm basically in it for the look. Me, too, but my preference is for the N7 look. That's not necessarily the same look I seek in MEA, where I prefer Hyperguardian. There are some helmets in MEA that I really dislike. Is the Hyperguardian gear the same as the gear as the outlaws wear?
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 14, 2018 4:29:04 GMT
I suppose I'll do annual for now. Almost through my second playthrough of the game on pc with a few mods. Less playable but it looks prettier than on PS4. There's a point when you're around 20 to 30 hours in where you just go "Man, I like this game a lot." and then around the end missions or the tail-end of the Ryder Family Secrets questline the game quietly dies again for me. It's so stuck in retreading ME1's formula to a T and the core story has intrigue rooted in the parts that IMO failed in ME3, as intriguing as they started to become here. It's hard not to like the fanservice revealed in those logs though, but idk man, this game is such a mixed bag of potential and stuff that was never gonna be any good. It was a mixed bag of potential that will NEVER be realized. Hence, even if you like the game, you're left feeling like the entire thing wasn't released. I find that problematic, which is why it will never come close to having the same level of playthroughs as the MET, or even any single game in the MET. Regardless of which of them you play, you know it a future, a history or both. MEA seems to have none of that - which would be fine as a standalone but it wasn't written as being such.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 14, 2018 4:32:21 GMT
Me, too, but my preference is for the N7 look. That's not necessarily the same look I seek in MEA, where I prefer Hyperguardian. There are some helmets in MEA that I really dislike. Is the Hyperguardian gear the same as the gear as the outlaws wear? Not sure. Others obviously seem to think so. I don't believe I've played enough to take note. I first found the MET about two years ago. A year later, I'd played the ENTIRE TRILOGY more times than I'd played MEA in that same span so I haven't looked at it enough to notice.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 14, 2018 4:38:24 GMT
Is the Hyperguardian gear the same as the gear as the outlaws wear? Not sure. Others obviously seem to think so. I don't believe I've played enough to take note. I first found the MET about two years ago. A year later, I'd played the ENTIRE TRILOGY more times than I'd played MEA in that same span so I haven't looked at it enough to notice. Same here. I blanked out most of what was going on MEA after the first 5 hours into it. Hell, I can't even remember what weapons I used!😀
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 14, 2018 4:56:19 GMT
Not sure. Others obviously seem to think so. I don't believe I've played enough to take note. I first found the MET about two years ago. A year later, I'd played the ENTIRE TRILOGY more times than I'd played MEA in that same span so I haven't looked at it enough to notice. Same here. I blanked out most of what was going on MEA after the first 5 hours into it. Hell, I can't even remember what weapons I used!😀 Next run I'll probably notice more. That said, I imagine I'll eventually reinstall TW3 (it was on another computer that died and I haven't gotten around to reinstalling it - also, haven't even finished a single run) and also have high hopes for Cyberpunk 2077, whenever that finally sees the light of day. Anyway, main thing I remember is that I liked the look of the HyperGuardian helmet. I also liked the "C8" on it, which made it feel more like it was tied to your "rank" as Pathfinder (even though it wasn't). Based on my two minutes of Google research (well, DuckDuckGo, but whatever), HyperGuardian was meant to be a civilian friendly alternative to Colossus armor. Colossus armor was my favorite armor in ME1 and vanished in ME2/3.
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