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Post by GalentheYounger on Oct 6, 2016 2:32:45 GMT
Firstly, thanks to those who are trying to help me avoid spoilers. I sincerely appreciate it, and I do want to go into this game blind (one of the rare times I have actually done so) I was originally going to do Anders, no question, but (luckily I didn't see spoilers) I have seen people on other message boards moan and groan about whatever anders does in the end, or something, which made me hesitate. I usually prefer human romances. They are more comfortable for me. I am planning to be pro - templar but not necessarily anti - mage. I was hoping for a situation similar to inquisition - where it was like yeah, I chose the Templars in the beginning, but I'm not a total jerk to mages. Will/Should this effect my decision? I also would like a happy ending, because, hey, that's me. Kaidan's ending was lukewarm for me and I did like the Cullen one, although a bit abrupt. I haven't yet finished Origins but the demon baby thing with Alistair gives me, as Raj says from the Big Bang Theory, the 'heeby jeebies.' I appreciate all of your comments. 
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 6, 2016 2:38:02 GMT
Firstly, thanks to those who are trying to help me avoid spoilers. I sincerely appreciate it, and I do want to go into this game blind (one of the rare times I have actually done so) I was originally going to do Anders, no question, but (luckily I didn't see spoilers) I have seen people on other message boards moan and groan about whatever anders does in the end, or something, which made me hesitate. I usually prefer human romances. They are more comfortable for me. I am planning to be pro - templar but not necessarily anti - mage. I was hoping for a situation similar to inquisition - where it was like yeah, I chose the Templars in the beginning, but I'm not a total jerk to mages. Will/Should this effect my decision? I also would like a happy ending, because, hey, that's me. Kaidan's ending was lukewarm for me and I did like the Cullen one, although a bit abrupt. I haven't yet finished Origins but the demon baby thing with Alistair gives me, as Raj says from the Big Bang Theory, the 'heeby jeebies.' I appreciate all of your comments. ...define "happy." The mage vs. Templar decision in this game is much less nuanced and more of a caricature than in DAI, in my opinion. It will definitely drive you towards rivalry with Anders, though as stated you can still romance him this way.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 6, 2016 2:43:01 GMT
Firstly, thanks to those who are trying to help me avoid spoilers. I sincerely appreciate it, and I do want to go into this game blind (one of the rare times I have actually done so) I was originally going to do Anders, no question, but (luckily I didn't see spoilers) I have seen people on other message boards moan and groan about whatever anders does in the end, or something, which made me hesitate. I usually prefer human romances. They are more comfortable for me. I am planning to be pro - templar but not necessarily anti - mage. I was hoping for a situation similar to inquisition - where it was like yeah, I chose the Templars in the beginning, but I'm not a total jerk to mages. Will/Should this effect my decision? I also would like a happy ending, because, hey, that's me. Kaidan's ending was lukewarm for me and I did like the Cullen one, although a bit abrupt. I haven't yet finished Origins but the demon baby thing with Alistair gives me, as Raj says from the Big Bang Theory, the 'heeby jeebies.' I appreciate all of your comments. ...define "happy." The mage vs. Templar decision in this game is much less nuanced and more of a caricature than in DAI, in my opinion. It will definitely drive you towards rivalry with Anders, though as stated you can still romance him this way. Anders rival not a happy romance... rather sad or very sad/tragic. True, not totally excluded the happy end.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 6, 2016 2:43:46 GMT
Merrill.
Of the two options, Fenris.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 6, 2016 2:48:04 GMT
Firstly, thanks to those who are trying to help me avoid spoilers. I sincerely appreciate it, and I do want to go into this game blind (one of the rare times I have actually done so) I was originally going to do Anders, no question, but (luckily I didn't see spoilers) I have seen people on other message boards moan and groan about whatever anders does in the end, or something, which made me hesitate. I usually prefer human romances. They are more comfortable for me. I am planning to be pro - templar but not necessarily anti - mage. I was hoping for a situation similar to inquisition - where it was like yeah, I chose the Templars in the beginning, but I'm not a total jerk to mages. Will/Should this effect my decision? I also would like a happy ending, because, hey, that's me. Kaidan's ending was lukewarm for me and I did like the Cullen one, although a bit abrupt. I haven't yet finished Origins but the demon baby thing with Alistair gives me, as Raj says from the Big Bang Theory, the 'heeby jeebies.' I appreciate all of your comments. If you want to know the romance end: Anders and pro-templar Hawke romance rather sad/tragic. (I never had done.) Fenris' romance can be happy with pro-mage or pro-templar, friendship or rivalry, no matter. If Hawke have enough rivalry/friendship rate, Fenris happily follow pro-mage Hawke. Can be sad, if Hawke have not enough friendship/rivalry rate (not counting the romance bug).
Pro-Templar Hawke: FENRIS for 100% happy end (not counting the romance bug).
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Post by phoray on Oct 6, 2016 3:00:00 GMT
How about this.
Since you're not going for Isabella anyway, know you don't have to commit to anybody before Act 2.
Play Act 1. If you are more friendship points with Anders, go for Anders.
If you are more rival points with Anders, know that this will not be a happy relationship, and go to Fenris.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 6, 2016 3:11:45 GMT
How about this. Since you're not going for Isabella anyway, know you don't have to commit to anybody before Act 2. Play Act 1. If you are more friendship points with Anders, go for Anders. If you are more rival points with Anders, know that this will not be a happy relationship, and go to Fenris. Pro-Templar ending while Hawke and Anders in friendship also rather sad, as I see... but I never tried this way.
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Post by phoray on Oct 6, 2016 3:47:35 GMT
How about this. Since you're not going for Isabella anyway, know you don't have to commit to anybody before Act 2. Play Act 1. If you are more friendship points with Anders, go for Anders. If you are more rival points with Anders, know that this will not be a happy relationship, and go to Fenris. Pro-Templar ending while Hawke and Anders in friendship also rather sad, as I see... but I never tried this way. The Mages vs Templar debate in Inquisition os water compared to the literal blood in Kirkwall. I could be pro templar, in my own way, In Inquisition without being too far off what I thought was right. Also, allying with either side does not mean you support them and every detail they work towards. The OP says pro templar but refers to Inquisition. I question whether they will stick to Templar ideals in the dirty chaos of Kirkwall. Think Thrask. Think Samson. Even Templars didn't want mages to be in the Kirkwall Circle. So, it may end up that OP will be more pro mage freedom than they thought. Or even be pro templar till the very end, because that last decision is pretty effed up, and then switch sides. So, what kind and how many points they get with Anders in act 1 is a pretty good clue of whether or not OP would have a happy relationship with Anders.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Oct 6, 2016 6:39:45 GMT
 Anders~! Firstly, thanks to those who are trying to help me avoid spoilers. I sincerely appreciate it, and I do want to go into this game blind (one of the rare times I have actually done so) I was originally going to do Anders, no question, but (luckily I didn't see spoilers) I have seen people on other message boards moan and groan about whatever anders does in the end, or something, which made me hesitate. I usually prefer human romances. They are more comfortable for me. I am planning to be pro - templar but not necessarily anti - mage. I was hoping for a situation similar to inquisition - where it was like yeah, I chose the Templars in the beginning, but I'm not a total jerk to mages. Will/Should this effect my decision? I also would like a happy ending, because, hey, that's me. Kaidan's ending was lukewarm for me and I did like the Cullen one, although a bit abrupt. I haven't yet finished Origins but the demon baby thing with Alistair gives me, as Raj says from the Big Bang Theory, the 'heeby jeebies.' I appreciate all of your comments. Like others have said, the mage/templar rift isn't as subtle in DA2 like in DAI. Anders is a rebel mage all the way down to his DNA. In regards to his "drama" I will say that he's complicated. It is not necessarily a "smooth" ride like with Cullen or Kaidan but rewarding if you stick with him, and there are a lot of subtleties that get lost in the game. (So, just really try to pay attention, is what I'm saying.  Don't let others influence you, just try to form your own opinions.) "Happy" ending is possible but I cannot say is guaranteed -- depends on you, really. For me it is happy and romantic. I wouldn't suggest rivaling him your first time if you can help it. I would even encourage you to pursue him with a male if you don't romance him the first time with your femHawke because there's important information only a maleHawke learns because of gender-restrictions in his content, which hurts his character. Fenris is more aligned with the "templar-Circle" side, so you might get along better with him. I might compare his romance more to Kaidan in terms of angst level and general structure. I really like the way it ends as well -- which is to say I think it was worth it and wasn't disappointed at all. Unlike some others here I've never encountered the flirt bug that prevents you from romancing him. It probably would be best to feel out these characters before committing. Anders isn't for everyone, but neither is Fenris. I think only through interacting with these guys for yourself will you know what to do. Romancing Anders first might be wise because of the story IF nothing else.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 8:50:51 GMT
Firstly, thanks to those who are trying to help me avoid spoilers. I sincerely appreciate it, and I do want to go into this game blind (one of the rare times I have actually done so) I was originally going to do Anders, no question, but (luckily I didn't see spoilers) I have seen people on other message boards moan and groan about whatever anders does in the end, or something, which made me hesitate. I usually prefer human romances. They are more comfortable for me. I am planning to be pro - templar but not necessarily anti - mage. I was hoping for a situation similar to inquisition - where it was like yeah, I chose the Templars in the beginning, but I'm not a total jerk to mages. Will/Should this effect my decision? I also would like a happy ending, because, hey, that's me. Kaidan's ending was lukewarm for me and I did like the Cullen one, although a bit abrupt. I haven't yet finished Origins but the demon baby thing with Alistair gives me, as Raj says from the Big Bang Theory, the 'heeby jeebies.' I appreciate all of your comments. You can play neutral-ish (until the very end), though it might leave you in the middle ground with some of the companions, who can be very one side or the other. The mage/templar conflict is a lot more in your face than it is in DAI, though. My advice is to not pick a romance right away. Dig through all the conversation options, since there's a lot of character back story that's hidden away. Mix up your party for the same reasons (and do the unimportant sounding side quests in Act 1). I'd pick Fenris, though  It's a bit hard without going into spoiler territory, but I've always found Anders romance a bit squicky. He's a bit on the clingy and obsessive side.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Oct 6, 2016 16:55:00 GMT
Firstly, thanks to those who are trying to help me avoid spoilers. I sincerely appreciate it, and I do want to go into this game blind (one of the rare times I have actually done so) I was originally going to do Anders, no question, but (luckily I didn't see spoilers) I have seen people on other message boards moan and groan about whatever anders does in the end, or something, which made me hesitate. I usually prefer human romances. They are more comfortable for me. I am planning to be pro - templar but not necessarily anti - mage. I was hoping for a situation similar to inquisition - where it was like yeah, I chose the Templars in the beginning, but I'm not a total jerk to mages. Will/Should this effect my decision? I also would like a happy ending, because, hey, that's me. Kaidan's ending was lukewarm for me and I did like the Cullen one, although a bit abrupt. I haven't yet finished Origins but the demon baby thing with Alistair gives me, as Raj says from the Big Bang Theory, the 'heeby jeebies.' I appreciate all of your comments. You can play neutral-ish (until the very end), though it might leave you in the middle ground with some of the companions, who can be very one side or the other. The mage/templar conflict is a lot more in your face than it is in DAI, though. My advice is to not pick a romance right away. Dig through all the conversation options, since there's a lot of character back story that's hidden away. Mix up your party for the same reasons (and do the unimportant sounding side quests in Act 1). I'd pick Fenris, though  It's a bit hard without going into spoiler territory, but I've always found Anders romance a bit squicky. He's a bit on the clingy and obsessive side. My wife called it endless devotion.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Oct 6, 2016 16:59:18 GMT
Neither my wife or i use mods and i personally strongly dislike mods. My wife just thinks Anders is adorable and rugged in general. Only one who might rival Anders in looks for her is Sebastian. Not sure what you're referring to in regards to the spoilers. Sebastian is quite adorable, true. Why don't you like mods? As for the spoilers...um, really? melbella answered already, though I suppose I can explain in greater detail in a spoiler tag, if you want. It was mostly a tongue-in-cheek response, though, about why Anders is inferior I just don't think him blowing up the chantry is enough to ruin an Anders romance. If you're with someone, you're with them for a reason and should stick by them. My wife knew going in what he does and didn't care because she feels love is important enough to see through no matter what. I don't romance men, but i too had no problem with his solution.
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 6, 2016 17:19:43 GMT
Sebastian is quite adorable, true. Why don't you like mods? As for the spoilers...um, really? melbella answered already, though I suppose I can explain in greater detail in a spoiler tag, if you want. It was mostly a tongue-in-cheek response, though, about why Anders is inferior I was just surprised that you didn't know what the *spoiler* referred to, that's all. As I said, my post was (mostly) tongue-in-cheek.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 6, 2016 17:27:12 GMT
Sebastian is quite adorable, true. Why don't you like mods? As for the spoilers...um, really? melbella answered already, though I suppose I can explain in greater detail in a spoiler tag, if you want. It was mostly a tongue-in-cheek response, though, about why Anders is inferior I just don't think him blowing up the chantry is enough to ruin an Anders romance. If you're with someone, you're with them for a reason and should stick by them. My wife knew going in what he does and didn't care because she feels love is important enough to see through no matter what. I don't romance men, but i too had no problem with his solution. I romanced Anders, but my Hawke not for (only) his love supported him, I also support him, if my Hawke in love with Fenris. For a long-term love I think, need similar values, similar thinking, at least in the most important things. Because the love NOT conquers everything... (The question is: what is the important thing... for example in the case of Anders it is the mage-issue, but in the case of Fenris this is the slavery.)
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Post by Sah291 on Oct 6, 2016 19:29:44 GMT
Firstly, thanks to those who are trying to help me avoid spoilers. I sincerely appreciate it, and I do want to go into this game blind (one of the rare times I have actually done so) I was originally going to do Anders, no question, but (luckily I didn't see spoilers) I have seen people on other message boards moan and groan about whatever anders does in the end, or something, which made me hesitate. I usually prefer human romances. They are more comfortable for me. I am planning to be pro - templar but not necessarily anti - mage. I was hoping for a situation similar to inquisition - where it was like yeah, I chose the Templars in the beginning, but I'm not a total jerk to mages. Will/Should this effect my decision? I also would like a happy ending, because, hey, that's me. Kaidan's ending was lukewarm for me and I did like the Cullen one, although a bit abrupt. I haven't yet finished Origins but the demon baby thing with Alistair gives me, as Raj says from the Big Bang Theory, the 'heeby jeebies.' I appreciate all of your comments. Well, I'll just say that I did romance Anders first and I did like having seen his story first, but I can't tell you why without spoilers that would ruin it. However, I guess you have already seen enough to know he is a controversial character. He does have a path to a happy ending, though that might be up to interpretation for some. He does have a path that is not so happy, depending on choices. Most of the romances have a crisis point, if you make certain choices or fail to do their quests. No, the tone isn't like DAI. I can't say why without spoilers, but DA2 is the game about the lead up to the war you saw in DAI and all the political turmoil and conflict that ensued in Kirkwall. It's also a more personal story, about Hawke and his/her family. I really don't know what to say without spoiling you. I love Anders and his romance, and it was worth it, but it may or may not be your cup of tea. I don't know. I guess just go for it if you are curious. You can see if it was your cup of tea, and can always romance someone else in a second playthrough. The game is worth playing more than once, definitely.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Oct 6, 2016 21:47:58 GMT
GalentheYounger : something about Anders, not spoiling the story or anything, just an aspect of his character/romance for reference It should maybe also be stated that Anders will almost automatically be attracted to Hawke -- not so dissimilar as Kaidan in ME1. He also has strong feelings and isn't afraid to share them. Some people don't like it. I, however, don't get any negative impressions/feelings from it. I like that he's more forward than other LIs. You romance him and romances you right back. Sebastian is quite adorable, true. Why don't you like mods? As for the spoilers...um, really? melbella answered already, though I suppose I can explain in greater detail in a spoiler tag, if you want. It was mostly a tongue-in-cheek response, though, about why Anders is inferior I just don't think him blowing up the chantry is enough to ruin an Anders romance. If you're with someone, you're with them for a reason and should stick by them. My wife knew going in what he does and didn't care because she feels love is important enough to see through no matter what. I don't romance men, but i too had no problem with his solution. Welcome to the fandom, friend. I'm strongly and firmly in Anders' camp no matter what but have not and will not resort to shit-slinging Fenris to prove some "point."
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Post by Duke Cameron on Oct 6, 2016 23:15:00 GMT
GalentheYounger : something about Anders, not spoiling the story or anything, just an aspect of his character/romance for reference It should maybe also be stated that Anders will almost automatically be attracted to Hawke -- not so dissimilar as Kaidan in ME1. He also has strong feelings and isn't afraid to share them. Some people don't like it. I, however, don't get any negative impressions/feelings from it. I like that he's more forward than other LIs. You romance him and romances you right back. I just don't think him blowing up the chantry is enough to ruin an Anders romance. If you're with someone, you're with them for a reason and should stick by them. My wife knew going in what he does and didn't care because she feels love is important enough to see through no matter what. I don't romance men, but i too had no problem with his solution. Welcome to the fandom, friend. I'm strongly and firmly in Anders' camp no matter what but have not and will not resort to shit-slinging Fenris to prove some "point." When did i say anything bad about Fenris other then that i thought Anders was a better looking guy?
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Post by Duke Cameron on Oct 6, 2016 23:20:05 GMT
I was just surprised that you didn't know what the *spoiler* referred to, that's all. As I said, my post was (mostly) tongue-in-cheek. Oh, i knew what you meant. I was just asking for confirmation since i don't think his actions were a relationship breaker. I guess the way i asked did sound like i didn't know. Sorry.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Oct 6, 2016 23:25:08 GMT
GalentheYounger : something about Anders, not spoiling the story or anything, just an aspect of his character/romance for reference It should maybe also be stated that Anders will almost automatically be attracted to Hawke -- not so dissimilar as Kaidan in ME1. He also has strong feelings and isn't afraid to share them. Some people don't like it. I, however, don't get any negative impressions/feelings from it. I like that he's more forward than other LIs. You romance him and romances you right back. Welcome to the fandom, friend. I'm strongly and firmly in Anders' camp no matter what but have not and will not resort to shit-slinging Fenris to prove some "point." When did i say anything bad about Fenris other then that i thought Anders was a better looking guy? Oh, no no. That wasn't directed at you. It was just a general statement. I'm super protective of Anders.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Oct 6, 2016 23:34:34 GMT
When did i say anything bad about Fenris other then that i thought Anders was a better looking guy? Oh, no no. That wasn't directed at you. It was just a general statement. I'm super protective of Anders. It's okay, I know how you feel. There's just some characters that i couldn't do without.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2016 0:03:43 GMT
I was just surprised that you didn't know what the *spoiler* referred to, that's all. As I said, my post was (mostly) tongue-in-cheek. Oh, i knew what you meant. I was just asking for confirmation since i don't think his actions were a relationship breaker. I guess the way i asked did sound like i didn't know. Sorry. Spoilers for DA2/Anders and DAI/Solas romances. I do, but that's because I dislike the lying and manipulation that go along with it (I dated an Anders .... it's a lot less fun than it sounds). FWIW I disliked Solas' romance for the same reason.
Fenris' honesty is one of things that I loved about him.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Oct 7, 2016 0:27:46 GMT
Oh, i knew what you meant. I was just asking for confirmation since i don't think his actions were a relationship breaker. I guess the way i asked did sound like i didn't know. Sorry. Spoilers for DA2/Anders and DAI/Solas romances. I do, but that's because I dislike the lying and manipulation that go along with it (I dated an Anders .... it's a lot less fun than it sounds). FWIW I disliked Solas' romance for the same reason.
Fenris' honesty is one of things that I loved about him. My wife's example is a better example because she actually romanced him. ( I don't romance men) She simply believes that love conquers all, everything. The explosion, the not letting Hawke in on the plan, the murder that comes with the explosion , etc. As long as he loves Hawke and vise versa that"s all that mattered. I had no problem with it simply because i agree with him.
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falloutsheldon
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Post by GalentheYounger on Oct 7, 2016 0:45:15 GMT
Well. I just bought DAII today and am booting it up as we speak. Wish me luck, everyone! I'm going to go through Act I and see who I like better - thanks for all the help. 
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Add a cookie for just $1.99 (plus tax)!
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dragontartare
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 7, 2016 1:13:34 GMT
Well. I just bought DAII today and am booting it up as we speak. Wish me luck, everyone! I'm going to go through Act I and see who I like better - thanks for all the help. Don't forget to report back!
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ღ I am a golem. Obviously.
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Post by phoray on Oct 7, 2016 1:32:39 GMT
Well. I just bought DAII today and am booting it up as we speak. Wish me luck, everyone! I'm going to go through Act I and see who I like better - thanks for all the help. ZOMG, I shall live again precariously through your first time play through. Nothing is better than a first time play through. Please report back!
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