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Post by Beregond5 on Oct 7, 2016 11:34:30 GMT
Well. I just bought DAII today and am booting it up as we speak. Wish me luck, everyone! I'm going to go through Act I and see who I like better - thanks for all the help. Good luck and have fun! 
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Post by Toyish Batphone on Oct 8, 2016 14:50:40 GMT
Fenris.
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Post by kalvarez on Oct 9, 2016 21:33:37 GMT
I loved the Cullen, alistair and Kaidan romances- ranked here: Kaidan>Cullen>Alastair (for me) and would like a similar pleasant experience. You're basically me  I loved those three romances in that exact same orden. I just love fluffy romances. I went with Anders.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 9, 2016 21:36:34 GMT
I loved the Cullen, alistair and Kaidan romances- ranked here: Kaidan>Cullen>Alastair (for me) and would like a similar pleasant experience. You're basically me  I loved those three romances in that exact same orden. I just love fluffy romances. I went with Anders. Haha, rival Anders not as fluffy  If you read the thread, you can see: falloutsheldon want to support templars.
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Post by GalentheYounger on Oct 10, 2016 19:13:28 GMT
Well, reporting back in. Almost done with Act 1. I have to say, I really like Fenris' gravelly voice. But I most likely will go with Anders. I'm finding it more difficult to be pro mage, as I am biased because of Cullen and DAI, but I'm mostly calling it as I see it.
Now the question becomes - Should I do a rivalmance or a friendmance with Anders? I've heard from a friend that has played this before that rivalmance Anders is like the 'real' him and the friendmance Anders is not really him but something else controlling him.
Which one is better? Remember, I like happy endings...
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Post by Catilina on Oct 10, 2016 19:23:56 GMT
Well, reporting back in. Almost done with Act 1. I have to say, I really like Fenris' gravelly voice. But I most likely will go with Anders. I'm finding it more difficult to be pro mage, as I am biased because of Cullen and DAI, but I'm mostly calling it as I see it. Now the question becomes - Should I do a rivalmance or a friendmance with Anders? I've heard from a friend that has played this before that rivalmance Anders is like the 'real' him and the friendmance Anders is not really him but something else controlling him. Which one is better? Remember, I like happy endings... I think the friendship romance have happy end, but have sad end too, the rivalry rather sad or very sad. (I don't think, I ever will be able for it) Cullen do not hate my rebel mage Hawkes, and don't will be sad, if your Hawke is pro-mage. He was able to hear the negative criticism (Act 1: "Maybe you right, I will check it." – not accurate quote, but some similar, what he said, when Hawke arguing with him)
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Post by phoray on Oct 10, 2016 19:28:01 GMT
Well, reporting back in. Almost done with Act 1. I have to say, I really like Fenris' gravelly voice. But I most likely will go with Anders. I'm finding it more difficult to be pro mage, as I am biased because of Cullen and DAI, but I'm mostly calling it as I see it. Now the question becomes - Should I do a rivalmance or a friendmance with Anders? I've heard from a friend that has played this before that rivalmance Anders is like the 'real' him and the friendmance Anders is not really him but something else controlling him. Which one is better? Remember, I like happy endings... Beind super pro mage freedom with Anders may equate to a happy ending. That would be a friendmance. If you were truly pro freedom for mages, than this route would be the happiest. The way I've seen the difference between the two Anders best described: Friend Anders is more one with Justice. He is not fighting himself. He is calm and knows what he must do- confidence. Sureness. Rival Anders seems kind of miserable. He seems at war with Justice; Hawke is telling him to be the opposite of what Justice is telling him what to be. He's emotionally chewed up between the two people that have the biggest affect on his life. Like a devil and an angel on his shoulder, except which is the devil and which is the angel?
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Post by Catilina on Oct 10, 2016 19:40:39 GMT
Major spoiler!The rivalmance interesting, if you want to see, how a man can lost his faith, and slowly himself. Justice never will disappear until Anders die. In the rivalmance he forced rival not only with Hawke but also with Justice, and at the end, he will lost his belief in his purpose, and probably will lost himself in the fight with Justice. This is the very sad end. – As I see. Yes, in rivalmance Anders probably will be again that "nice, uncertain" guy, who he was in Awakening, but he was also angry and sad, and cynical, as I saw him. AND: Awakening-Anders was alone inside, but he will be NOT alone again.)
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Oct 10, 2016 21:40:08 GMT
Well, reporting back in. Almost done with Act 1. I have to say, I really like Fenris' gravelly voice. But I most likely will go with Anders. I'm finding it more difficult to be pro mage, as I am biased because of Cullen and DAI, but I'm mostly calling it as I see it. Now the question becomes - Should I do a rivalmance or a friendmance with Anders? I've heard from a friend that has played this before that rivalmance Anders is like the 'real' him and the friendmance Anders is not really him but something else controlling him. Which one is better? Remember, I like happy endings... I would say that phoray hit the nail on the head. Friendmance is more supportive of him and trying to help him keep control of himself. As it is, it's easier to friend Anders by helping mages -- with him in your party. (Generally I consider this to be the happier path with him.) What is your current reputation level with Anders?
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Post by GalentheYounger on Oct 14, 2016 18:29:18 GMT
Well, reporting back in. Almost done with Act 1. I have to say, I really like Fenris' gravelly voice. But I most likely will go with Anders. I'm finding it more difficult to be pro mage, as I am biased because of Cullen and DAI, but I'm mostly calling it as I see it. Now the question becomes - Should I do a rivalmance or a friendmance with Anders? I've heard from a friend that has played this before that rivalmance Anders is like the 'real' him and the friendmance Anders is not really him but something else controlling him. Which one is better? Remember, I like happy endings... Beind super pro mage freedom with Anders may equate to a happy ending. That would be a friendmance. If you were truly pro freedom for mages, than this route would be the happiest. The way I've seen the difference between the two Anders best described: Friend Anders is more one with Justice. He is not fighting himself. He is calm and knows what he must do- confidence. Sureness. Rival Anders seems kind of miserable. He seems at war with Justice; Hawke is telling him to be the opposite of what Justice is telling him what to be. He's emotionally chewed up between the two people that have the biggest affect on his life. Like a devil and an angel on his shoulder, except which is the devil and which is the angel? Thanks for the advice. In this game I'm actually more pro mags because of the narrative, and I just started act 2. Sorry for all the questions, but I'm not very familiar with the DA lore and am much better with Mass Effect. Why is the Circle of Magi so bad? Isn't it good for them to have a safe place to train and be with other mages? Thanks
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Post by Sah291 on Oct 14, 2016 19:00:26 GMT
Beind super pro mage freedom with Anders may equate to a happy ending. That would be a friendmance. If you were truly pro freedom for mages, than this route would be the happiest. The way I've seen the difference between the two Anders best described: Friend Anders is more one with Justice. He is not fighting himself. He is calm and knows what he must do- confidence. Sureness. Rival Anders seems kind of miserable. He seems at war with Justice; Hawke is telling him to be the opposite of what Justice is telling him what to be. He's emotionally chewed up between the two people that have the biggest affect on his life. Like a devil and an angel on his shoulder, except which is the devil and which is the angel? Thanks for the advice. In this game I'm actually more pro mags because of the narrative, and I just started act 2. Sorry for all the questions, but I'm not very familiar with the DA lore and am much better with Mass Effect. Why is the Circle of Magi so bad? Isn't it good for them to have a safe place to train and be with other mages? Thanks That was the original intent and purpose of the Circle, but in Dragon Age people in Thedas fear mages, and they aren't schools. They are mandatory and children are taken away from families to live there, and they are not allowed to choose or leave without Templar supervision...among other things. I would say it is kind of like how biotics are seen in ME, except that they haven't really been integrated into normal society yet. Southern Thedas and the Chantry fear mages because the ancient mage ruled Tevinter Imperium had slavery, and their prophet, Andraste, fought a slave rebellion against the empire. She taught magic should not rule over man, but Chantry takes this literally to mean mages should not rule period, and they cannot own property or have political power. They also believe a group of ancient mages, Tevinter Magisters, caused the Maker to turn away from them when they tried to break into the Golden City and make themselves gods. Corypheus was one of those original Magisters who supposedly did this.
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Post by phoray on Oct 14, 2016 19:10:57 GMT
Beind super pro mage freedom with Anders may equate to a happy ending. That would be a friendmance. If you were truly pro freedom for mages, than this route would be the happiest. The way I've seen the difference between the two Anders best described: Friend Anders is more one with Justice. He is not fighting himself. He is calm and knows what he must do- confidence. Sureness. Rival Anders seems kind of miserable. He seems at war with Justice; Hawke is telling him to be the opposite of what Justice is telling him what to be. He's emotionally chewed up between the two people that have the biggest affect on his life. Like a devil and an angel on his shoulder, except which is the devil and which is the angel? Thanks for the advice. In this game I'm actually more pro mags because of the narrative, and I just started act 2. Sorry for all the questions, but I'm not very familiar with the DA lore and am much better with Mass Effect. Why is the Circle of Magi so bad? Isn't it good for them to have a safe place to train and be with other mages? Thanks Also, mages aren't allowed to have children. If a female mage gets pregnant, they are forced to put the child in a Chantry Orphanage. Can't get marriedm can't own property. Rarely, if ever, leave the Circle. Your graduation can literally kill you and it doesn't even ensure the very thing they claim it does; that you will never be possessed by a spirit.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 14, 2016 20:08:28 GMT
Beind super pro mage freedom with Anders may equate to a happy ending. That would be a friendmance. If you were truly pro freedom for mages, than this route would be the happiest. The way I've seen the difference between the two Anders best described: Friend Anders is more one with Justice. He is not fighting himself. He is calm and knows what he must do- confidence. Sureness. Rival Anders seems kind of miserable. He seems at war with Justice; Hawke is telling him to be the opposite of what Justice is telling him what to be. He's emotionally chewed up between the two people that have the biggest affect on his life. Like a devil and an angel on his shoulder, except which is the devil and which is the angel? Thanks for the advice. In this game I'm actually more pro mags because of the narrative, and I just started act 2. Sorry for all the questions, but I'm not very familiar with the DA lore and am much better with Mass Effect. Why is the Circle of Magi so bad? Isn't it good for them to have a safe place to train and be with other mages? Thanks It would be fine, if the Circles would be schools and libraries, and a places, where mages could be together. But the Circles are rather prisons, and the Templars can do any cruelty against the mages without consequences.
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Post by bella on Oct 22, 2016 19:03:16 GMT
This thread has made me want to do a new DA2 playthrough with an Anders rivalmance  Never tried it before, and I'm in the mood for some real angsty shit. I see the OP has gone with Anders already, yay! My canon Hawke definitely flirted with Fenris as well (mostly because of the voice *ahem*), but ended up going with Anders, a friendmance. I remember being very satisfied with it in the end, would definitely recommend.
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Post by kalasaurus on Oct 31, 2016 8:51:03 GMT
Woah, reading through this thread makes me want to do a DA trilogy run again! I don't have DA2 on Origin (I originally played on PS3), so I'll have to look into it. I will say this, my first play through was as a pro-Mage Mage in a friendmance with Anders. I too went in completely blind, it really was worth it in the end imo. I was in complete shock and disbelief. It really added to the drama/immersion for me... so yes, Anders all the way
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Post by bella on Oct 31, 2016 11:15:38 GMT
I was in complete shock and disbelief. It really added to the drama/immersion for me... so yes, Anders all the way I was pretty pissed off at him, and personally felt betrayed  All the while thinking "what an odd thing to feel about a video game" hahah.
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Post by kalasaurus on Oct 31, 2016 11:19:02 GMT
I was in complete shock and disbelief. It really added to the drama/immersion for me... so yes, Anders all the way I was pretty pissed off at him, and personally felt betrayed  All the while thinking "what an odd thing to feel about a video game" hahah. Oh, me too. I may or may not have started swearing at the screen
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Post by kalasaurus on Oct 31, 2016 11:55:20 GMT
Inquisition spoilers: I must have a knack for picking LIs in the Dragon Age franchise, because my first romance in Inquisition...also without knowing the ending...was Solas.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 31, 2016 15:30:22 GMT
I was in complete shock and disbelief. It really added to the drama/immersion for me... so yes, Anders all the way I was pretty pissed off at him, and personally felt betrayed  All the while thinking "what an odd thing to feel about a video game" hahah. So much people feel betrayed, but he always said, that the mage freedom is more important for him than his life, love and every others... This was not secret. He lied once, about the separation. Later he admits it. I never felt that he betray Hawke (yes, as best friend/lover I was angry him for not telling everything and I also have Hawke, who refused to help, because he was angry for his distrust), but Hawke can betray him, if s/he want. (When he ask Hawke to distraction, Haweke can see, that he wants this, not because he want to feeds the kittens in the Chantry – because the refugees eaten them...  )
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Post by bella on Oct 31, 2016 19:44:38 GMT
I was pretty pissed off at him, and personally felt betrayed  All the while thinking "what an odd thing to feel about a video game" hahah. So much people feel betrayed, but he always said, that the mage freedom is more important for him than his life, love and every others... This was not secret. He lied once, about the separation. Later he admits it. I never felt that he betray Hawke (yes, as best friend/lover I was angry him for not telling everything and I also have Hawke, who refused to help, because he was angry for his distrust), but Hawke can betray him, if s/he want. (When he ask Hawke to distraction, Haweke can see, that he wants this, not because he want to feeds the kittens in the Chantry – because the refugees eaten them...  ) The reasons for my feeling betrayed are exactly as you describe - as a best friend/lover I felt pissed at him for not telling me the whole truth, and basically using me. I also felt annoyed at myself for letting myself get into this mess, because how could I say no. DA2 provided a whole variety of emotions for me, haha. Also, kalasaurus Ha! I'm jealous. I went for Cullen in my first PT so I didn't get the whole "holy fuck my LI is an elven God" bombshell dropped on me out of the blue. But all of my subsequent PTs have been all about Solas, so..
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Post by kalasaurus on Oct 31, 2016 20:24:49 GMT
So much people feel betrayed, but he always said, that the mage freedom is more important for him than his life, love and every others... This was not secret. He lied once, about the separation. Later he admits it. I never felt that he betray Hawke (yes, as best friend/lover I was angry him for not telling everything and I also have Hawke, who refused to help, because he was angry for his distrust), but Hawke can betray him, if s/he want. (When he ask Hawke to distraction, Haweke can see, that he wants this, not because he want to feeds the kittens in the Chantry – because the refugees eaten them...  ) The reasons for my feeling betrayed are exactly as you describe - as a best friend/lover I felt pissed at him for not telling me the whole truth, and basically using me. I also felt annoyed at myself for letting myself get into this mess, because how could I say no. DA2 provided a whole variety of emotions for me, haha. Also, kalasaurus Ha! I'm jealous. I went for Cullen in my first PT so I didn't get the whole "holy fuck my LI is an elven God" bombshell dropped on me out of the blue. But all of my subsequent PTs have been all about Solas, so.. Indeed, my reasoning was clouded by the smokescreen of friendship/romance with Anders. There were, of course, a lot of glaring red-flags to Anders' inevitable betrayal, but, like in real life, I tend to let things like friendship/loving someone prevent me from seeing their less desirable attributes. Also, I bolded the lie mentioned by Catilina- that's a really big thing to lie about! I think it's okay to be upset about that  . I think he's a great character, but on my first playthrough I was really blindsided! Oh yeah... I only picked Solas because I was playing as a super-elfy Lavellan and it fit role-playing wise... but then I really came to love him! But, oh man, was it a roller-coaster haha. I practically had a meltdown on the Solas thread trying to mend my broken heart. Damn you, Solas!
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Post by Catilina on Oct 31, 2016 20:54:12 GMT
The reasons for my feeling betrayed are exactly as you describe - as a best friend/lover I felt pissed at him for not telling me the whole truth, and basically using me. I also felt annoyed at myself for letting myself get into this mess, because how could I say no. DA2 provided a whole variety of emotions for me, haha. Also, kalasaurus Ha! I'm jealous. I went for Cullen in my first PT so I didn't get the whole "holy fuck my LI is an elven God" bombshell dropped on me out of the blue. But all of my subsequent PTs have been all about Solas, so.. Indeed, my reasoning was clouded by the smokescreen of friendship/romance with Anders. There were, of course, a lot of glaring red-flags to Anders' inevitable betrayal, but, like in real life, I tend to let things like friendship/loving someone prevent me from seeing their less desirable attributes. Also, I bolded the lie mentioned by Catilina- that's a really big thing to lie about! I think it's okay to be upset about that  . I think he's a great character, but on my first playthrough I was really blindsided! Oh yeah... I only picked Solas because I was playing as a super-elfy Lavellan and it fit role-playing wise... but then I really came to love him! But, oh man, was it a roller-coaster haha. I practically had a meltdown on the Solas thread trying to mend my broken heart. Damn you, Solas! He had reason to lie. And later he told, that he lied about the indirigents and the separating, and that why he lied about it. It was never in question, that the freedom of the Mages is more important to him, than anything and anyone else. This is hard, but I can't call betrayal He also refers to what he wanted, only vaguely.
Hawke can betray him, can chase away him, and can kill him. He only once lied to Hawke.
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Post by kalasaurus on Oct 31, 2016 20:57:10 GMT
Indeed, my reasoning was clouded by the smokescreen of friendship/romance with Anders. There were, of course, a lot of glaring red-flags to Anders' inevitable betrayal, but, like in real life, I tend to let things like friendship/loving someone prevent me from seeing their less desirable attributes. Also, I bolded the lie mentioned by Catilina- that's a really big thing to lie about! I think it's okay to be upset about that  . I think he's a great character, but on my first playthrough I was really blindsided! Oh yeah... I only picked Solas because I was playing as a super-elfy Lavellan and it fit role-playing wise... but then I really came to love him! But, oh man, was it a roller-coaster haha. I practically had a meltdown on the Solas thread trying to mend my broken heart. Damn you, Solas! He had reason to lie. And later he told, that he lied about the indirigents and the separating, and that why he lied about it. It was never in question, that the freedom of the Mages is more important to him, than anything and anyone else. He also refers to what he wanted, only vaguely. Ok, I'm not getting into this lol. I guess it all comes down to a matter of different perspectives, but regardless of his motivations, lying to blow up a chantry is a big lie.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 31, 2016 21:07:16 GMT
He had reason to lie. And later he told, that he lied about the indirigents and the separating, and that why he lied about it. It was never in question, that the freedom of the Mages is more important to him, than anything and anyone else. He also refers to what he wanted, only vaguely. Ok, I'm not getting into this lol. I guess it all comes down to a matter of different perspectives, but regardless of his motivations, lying to blow up a chantry is a big lie. Virtually he says the truth: "It easy to support the freedom, if no one died to achive it." This is quite clearly, as I see, no lie. Hawke an see the truth, if s/he want to see the truth, and can remain blind and innocent, if s/he want.
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Post by kalasaurus on Oct 31, 2016 21:08:19 GMT
I suppose I should also add that I understand Anders' motivations and am sympathetic to the mages' plight, but I was referring to the feeling of being blindsided/betrayed on my first playthrough.
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