Detroit: Become Human

Heimdall

I find it kind of odd. You liked the game, but now you're seeking out long opinion videos that are now retrospectively taking the enjoyment out of it.

So this is basically a Telltale game on steroids, right?

I liked it and shall continue ignoring the hate wagon

Not quite finished yet, I'm up to Kara meeting Rose at the farm....

I don't have a PS4 so I'm watching 3 youtubers play Detroit. Jesse Cox, Northern Lion and Adam Koebel, they have different world states with one killing Todd, one shooting Connor and Simon, one being as robotic as possible with no emotions etc.

It's really satisfying to see their different paths, I'm way more impressed with Detroit than I ever was with Fahrenheit or Beyond 2 Souls. I just wish Marcus's path was more interesting.

They undress the kid a little too much tho.

Bought this game three days ago, and I've made three playthroughs back to back.

No, I'm not addicted or anything

Honestly, the environment and soundtrack are everything in this game. I'm so addicted to Kara's theme. I've explored several different paths with Markus and Connor but when it comes to Kara and her family, I always go with the best path. That theme always guilt trips me into it.

I would rate this game 9/10 for sure. So far, it seems to be my favorite game of 2018. My only complaint would be the sometimes disappearing from the screen QTE's and the irritating camera views.

I honestly think Connor and Hank should have been the main focus of the game because theirs is the story that I think have the fewest problems. 

Truth be told, it was the only one of the three stories that I felt any sort of investment in. Marcus' story had so many problems that I genuinely don't even know where to begin and Kara's story falls flat in large part because Alice feels like such a non-character. She's supposed to be the driving force but it feels like the game thinks I'll care about her just because she looks like a child and that kind of emotional manipulation is so cheap that it just doesn't work with me. One of the reasons that Telltale's Clementine character worked so well was because she was written so well. The writers gave her a personality, a story arc and she had all kinds of moments with the player. She's a character and Alice just.. isn't. She's a blank and I kept waiting for conversations that could help fill out that blank and flesh out her character and those just never came. 

Connor and Hank were both likable and had some semblance of depth to their respective character and while their dynamic wasn't anything new, it was well-executed. It was enjoyable and interesting. Also, Connor felt like he was the only one of the three characters who was actually, you know, becoming human. It wasn't just a switch that was flipped. It was a process. 

You won't believe it, but I had a similar thought. Not that Alice would be a dog, but that it would have been good to have a dog/droid relationship inherited from a dog/human. Like if Carl had a dog and in some timelines Markus ends up with that dog somehow.

It's because it's exceedingly difficult. I've only played through it twice, the first time on hard, the second easy. I failed the QTEs miserably the first time on hard, and barely got through them on easy mode.

Having just played my first play through, this is exactly as I described it 
As someone who love(d  ) Telltale too I thought that this would agree with me and I really did enjoy it. I need to replay it many times more as there's stuff I know I didn't uncover, mistakes I made and need to put right, and I want to make some very different decisions to compare outcomes. Having spoken with friends who have played it none of us had the exact same experience. I think it's going to become the game I go back to when I need a break from the 60-crazy high number of hours games I usually find myself playing.

I found it really hard to roleplay in this game, and haven't actually finished it even though I very much enjoy the premise.

For instance, Kara. I don't understand the choices you're presented with. If androids in this setting were programmed to put the safety of children above pretty much everything else - which wouldn't be unlikely - then her natural course of action would be to take Alice out of that household and bring her straight to a police station and present her recorded evidence of the father's criminal behavior.

Not to take a child with her to live on the street and try to flee the country. If anything, her actions are a greater threat to Alice than the girl's father's were.

Markus is slightly easier to figure out a clear arc for. Playing him as a naive and idealistic creature feeling lost and trying to create a community while being willing to take losses without retaliation because he knows his people's "lives" will never have the intrinsic value of humans' is interesting and touching, and it makes his inevitable failure to secure "rights" for his people very tragic, and his trouble controlling his followers a lesson in ill-conceived radical activism.

Connor is the best though. As someone who does not in any way shape or form believe in the potential sentience of computers, playing one who is entirely certain about that and not existentially dissatisfied at all is a joy. Making every choice a question of how to most efficiently achieve his purpose is fun, and playing him as eager to please and awkwardly trying to get along with people outside emergencies is also just a joy. A smarmy, apologetic terminator.

At some point I'll definitely play it through to the end.

I really like this game, but I still think the writer would have done better to treat androids like androids instead of copy-pasting civil rights imagery and overly anthropomorphizing them.

Kara’s plot was also more interesting before the twist.

Connor is by far my favorite part of the game. I think I’m going to do a replay soon.