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Post by dmc1001 on May 29, 2018 20:08:20 GMT
I've definitely done fewer runs on MEA than the MET. That said, when I started playing the MET, all games and DLC were out. If only ME1 were out would I have done as many playthroughs as I have so far? I doubt it. Well for me it’s the length that limits how many I do. Not quality or anything. It still baffles me when people say they’ve done dozens of runs of games like Oblivion and Skyrim. I still love playing them but I can’t play them that often due to length. Yes, true. There's too much going on. And because of the way it's structured I can leave it for months - or even up to a year - and lose nothing. There's no main character, no sense of things needing to be done. You don't even have to remember wha5t you're doing. Just point me at the next quest and we're on our way. Not so with Shepard or Ryder. A lot can be skipped but there's also a definite sense that Action A must be done before Action B can happen. For example, I just met Avitus Rix on Hvarl. It's not possible to find the turian ark until going to Hvarl (I chose Voeld first). I could meet Rix whenever I want but it alters how the game progresses.
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Post by Sharable Horizon on May 30, 2018 19:23:31 GMT
I played ME:A ALOT when it was first released. I completed two full playthroughs and had a blast whilst playing it despite its flaws, however over time the relentless negativity online kind of ruined the experience for me. I’m not sure why as normally crap like that doesn’t bother me. As a result, I stopped playing it and moved on to other things. Three weeks ago however I felt the urge to start playing again and I’m so damn glad I did! I’d forgotten just how much I loved Andromeda. From the lighter tone of the story, to the feeling of driving around and exploring these ruined worlds, I’m having a blast! Scott Ryder version 2.0 is back in business! Edit: Here’s a snap of my current Scott. Sniper, sasser and currently dodging watery death on Kadara!
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Post by griffith82 on May 30, 2018 20:39:02 GMT
I played ME:A ALOT when it was first released. I completed two full playthroughs and had a blast whilst playing it despite its flaws, however over time the relentless negativity online kind of ruined the experience for me. I’m not sure why as normally crap like that doesn’t bother me. As a result, I stopped playing it and moved on to other things. Three weeks ago however I felt the urge to start playing again and I’m so damn glad I did! I’d forgotten just how much I loved Andromeda. From the lighter tone of the story, to the feeling of driving around and exploring these ruined worlds, I’m having a blast! Scott Ryder version 2.0 is back in business! Edit: Here’s a snap of my current Scott. Sniper, sasser and currently dodging watery death on Kadara! Nice!
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Post by dazk on May 30, 2018 23:28:40 GMT
I played ME:A ALOT when it was first released. I completed two full playthroughs and had a blast whilst playing it despite its flaws, however over time the relentless negativity online kind of ruined the experience for me. I’m not sure why as normally crap like that doesn’t bother me. As a result, I stopped playing it and moved on to other things. Three weeks ago however I felt the urge to start playing again and I’m so damn glad I did! I’d forgotten just how much I loved Andromeda. From the lighter tone of the story, to the feeling of driving around and exploring these ruined worlds, I’m having a blast! Scott Ryder version 2.0 is back in business! Edit: Here’s a snap of my current Scott. Sniper, sasser and currently dodging watery death on Kadara! It is an absolute tragedy that a few were so vocal and caused so much friction and damage to the games reputation. I'd loved for Bioware to have hung in there at least for a few more patches, it's such a good game warts and all but a bit moe tweaking would have been great.
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Post by JayKay on May 31, 2018 14:27:12 GMT
I played ME:A ALOT when it was first released. I completed two full playthroughs and had a blast whilst playing it despite its flaws, however over time the relentless negativity online kind of ruined the experience for me. I’m not sure why as normally crap like that doesn’t bother me. As a result, I stopped playing it and moved on to other things. Three weeks ago however I felt the urge to start playing again and I’m so damn glad I did! I’d forgotten just how much I loved Andromeda. From the lighter tone of the story, to the feeling of driving around and exploring these ruined worlds, I’m having a blast! Scott Ryder version 2.0 is back in business! Edit: Here’s a snap of my current Scott. Sniper, sasser and currently dodging watery death on Kadara! That is one handsome Ryder! I'm definitely going to have to do that New Game Plus playthrough soon...
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Post by Sharable Horizon on Jun 2, 2018 2:38:12 GMT
I'm definitely going to have to do that New Game Plus playthrough soon... Ahaha! Go for it mate! I’m regretting not jumping back in sooner - I’m having waaaay to much fun in Andromeda again! For those those with more experience with crafting insane weapons, does anybody have any fun sniper rifle recipes to share? My Scott’s in the market for some really oddball rifles since his Black widow seems to be making the Kett look like chumps!
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Post by dazk on Jun 2, 2018 3:22:28 GMT
I'm definitely going to have to do that New Game Plus playthrough soon... Ahaha! Go for it mate! I’m regretting not jumping back in sooner - I’m having waaaay to much fun in Andromeda again! For those those with more experience with crafting insane weapons, does anybody have any fun sniper rifle recipes to share? My Scott’s in the market for some really oddball rifles since his Black widow seems to be making the Kett look like chumps! Sharable Horizon the person I usually ask is at Element Zero but I am not sure if he has done the math on Sniper Rifles. He has shared with me some great assault rifle, shotgun and pistol/SMG builds.
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Post by Sharable Horizon on Jun 3, 2018 19:02:25 GMT
Cheers mate! Hopefully he sticks his head in at some point. Doing some research on the ol’ interwebz I’ve just found out about combining the isharay with a bio converter which sounds utterly brutal - I must test this!
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 3, 2018 21:15:33 GMT
Starting from last month, I challenge anyone I see referring to Andromeda as "trash" to play it again and get back to me.
So far it's been 4/4 successes.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 3, 2018 21:18:15 GMT
Cheers mate! Hopefully he sticks his head in at some point. Doing some research on the ol’ interwebz I’ve just found out about combining the isharay with a bio converter which sounds utterly brutal - I must test this! I lol'd when I put two and two together and realized that sniper's name is called "Goodbye".
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 3, 2018 21:19:08 GMT
Starting from last month, I challenge anyone I see referring to Andromeda as "trash" to play it again and get back to me. So far it's been 4/4 successes. Wow not bad.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 3, 2018 21:21:09 GMT
Starting from last month, I challenge anyone I see referring to Andromeda as "trash" to play it again and get back to me. So far it's been 4/4 successes. Wow not bad. Funny how people's opinions change after the echoes of internet salt become a distant memory and you get to form your own opinions! Patches helped though of course, not gonna deny that.
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Post by mmoblitz on Jun 4, 2018 11:50:50 GMT
Can it be both? Of course, I just feel the game received globally more hate (for being different) than constructive criticism. Yes, the animations were laughable (at least at launch) and the memes were deserved, but the game would have got a tenth of the hate if it were a new IPBingo! It should have been a new IP. ME should have ended with ME3. They could have created anything they wanted in any style they wanted and may have been better off in the long run. There shouldn't have been anything from the ME universe in the game at all. Just call it Andromeda. IMO, you can't take a franchise like the OT, change/remove almost everything that made the OT great in the first place and expect your new version is going to be well received. The fact that you have "Mass Effect" in the title is going to create expectations whether you want them or not. Underrated? Not in my book. Not when comparing it to the OT. Now if it were a new IP, I might have found the criticism it got a little over the top, but I still wouldn't have liked it since it seemed more like a shooter with a weak story, forgettable characters, and dialog that seemed to be aimed at the GoG fan base, which I'm not.
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Post by river82 on Jun 4, 2018 13:45:03 GMT
Starting from last month, I challenge anyone I see referring to Andromeda as "trash" to play it again and get back to me. So far it's been 4/4 successes. Make it 4/5 - still trash. I do try and like Bioware games and tend to give them repeated attempts. But then again if someone abandoned the game because of the emptiness of the world (Bioware doesn't know what makes exploration exciting), the quality of the dialogue ("my face is tired"), the lack of choices (no renegade), the characters (Cora is annoying, Peebee is annoying, Liam is annoying, Drack is okay though, Jaal is dull) etc, patching the animation isn't going to help that person much ... Combat is good though. Very fun.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 4, 2018 13:55:59 GMT
Starting from last month, I challenge anyone I see referring to Andromeda as "trash" to play it again and get back to me. So far it's been 4/4 successes. Nice. In my case, most of the people I know who played the game at release loved it and most of them were ME fans since ME1. The ones who didn't can't stand open world-like games.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 16:16:42 GMT
Starting from last month, I challenge anyone I see referring to Andromeda as "trash" to play it again and get back to me. So far it's been 4/4 successes. Make it 4/5 - still trash. I do try and like Bioware games and tend to give them repeated attempts. But then again if someone abandoned the game because of the emptiness of the world (Bioware doesn't know what makes exploration exciting), the quality of the dialogue ("my face is tired"), the lack of choices (no renegade), the characters (Cora is annoying, Peebee is annoying, Liam is annoying, Drack is okay though, Jaal is dull) etc, patching the animation isn't going to help that person much ... Combat is good though. Very fun. OK, I gotta know - what's the 5th Mass Effect game that makes it 4/5 successes for Bioware? AFAIK, there's only the Trilogy and ME:A.
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 4, 2018 17:00:36 GMT
Of course, I just feel the game received globally more hate (for being different) than constructive criticism. Yes, the animations were laughable (at least at launch) and the memes were deserved, but the game would have got a tenth of the hate if it were a new IPBingo! It should have been a new IP. ME should have ended with ME3. They could have created anything they wanted in any style they wanted and may have been better off in the long run. There shouldn't have been anything from the ME universe in the game at all. Just call it Andromeda. IMO, you can't take a franchise like the OT, change/remove almost everything that made the OT great in the first place and expect your new version is going to be well received. The fact that you have "Mass Effect" in the title is going to create expectations whether you want them or not. Underrated? Not in my book. Not when comparing it to the OT. Now if it were a new IP, I might have found the criticism it got a little over the top, but I still wouldn't have liked it since it seemed more like a shooter with a weak story, forgettable characters, and dialog that seemed to be aimed at the GoG fan base, which I'm not. There’s the rub. Comparing it to the OT. It’s vastly different and was meant to be. And what is the GoG fan base?
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Post by river82 on Jun 4, 2018 20:26:32 GMT
Make it 4/5 - still trash. I do try and like Bioware games and tend to give them repeated attempts. But then again if someone abandoned the game because of the emptiness of the world (Bioware doesn't know what makes exploration exciting), the quality of the dialogue ("my face is tired"), the lack of choices (no renegade), the characters (Cora is annoying, Peebee is annoying, Liam is annoying, Drack is okay though, Jaal is dull) etc, patching the animation isn't going to help that person much ... Combat is good though. Very fun. OK, I gotta know - what's the 5th Mass Effect game that makes it 4/5 successes for Bioware? AFAIK, there's only the Trilogy and ME:A. He said he challenged 4 people who had previously considered Andromeda trash to revisit the game and reconsider their opinions, and that so far he's had 4 successes. 4/4. I said make it 4/5 because I still considered it "trash"
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jun 4, 2018 20:32:07 GMT
OK, I gotta know - what's the 5th Mass Effect game that makes it 4/5 successes for Bioware? AFAIK, there's only the Trilogy and ME:A. He said he challenged 4 people who had previously considered Andromeda trash to revisit the game and reconsider their opinions, and that so far he's had 4 successes. 4/4. I said make it 4/5 because I still considered it "trash" Make that 4/6. It's still a mediocre game and no amount of patches are going to change that.
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Post by mmoblitz on Jun 4, 2018 22:45:24 GMT
Bingo! It should have been a new IP. ME should have ended with ME3. They could have created anything they wanted in any style they wanted and may have been better off in the long run. There shouldn't have been anything from the ME universe in the game at all. Just call it Andromeda. IMO, you can't take a franchise like the OT, change/remove almost everything that made the OT great in the first place and expect your new version is going to be well received. The fact that you have "Mass Effect" in the title is going to create expectations whether you want them or not. Underrated? Not in my book. Not when comparing it to the OT. Now if it were a new IP, I might have found the criticism it got a little over the top, but I still wouldn't have liked it since it seemed more like a shooter with a weak story, forgettable characters, and dialog that seemed to be aimed at the GoG fan base, which I'm not. There’s the rub. Comparing it to the OT. It’s vastly different and was meant to be. And what is the GoG fan base? I already explained why I and many others compare it to the OT. Your right in it being vastly different. It's ME in eye candy and name only. So, my question would be, if your going to create a game vastly different than the 3 games that preceded it, why not just start fresh and create a whole new IP? Maybe they were hoping the name would elicit more sales? They must have know comparisons were going to be made and when it didn't live up to what came before it, that it was going to get slammed. GoG is Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 4, 2018 23:20:09 GMT
There’s the rub. Comparing it to the OT. It’s vastly different and was meant to be. And what is the GoG fan base? I already explained why I and many others compare it to the OT. Your right in it being vastly different. It's ME in eye candy and name only. So, my question would be, if your going to create a game vastly different than the 3 games that preceded it, why not just start fresh and create a whole new IP? Maybe they were hoping the name would elicit more sales? They must have know comparisons were going to be made and when it didn't live up to what came before it, that it was going to get slammed. GoG is Guardians of the Galaxy. I couldn’t disagree with you more. Especially on the Guardians of the Galaxy comparison.
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Post by dazk on Jun 4, 2018 23:42:38 GMT
There’s the rub. Comparing it to the OT. It’s vastly different and was meant to be. And what is the GoG fan base? I already explained why I and many others compare it to the OT. Your right in it being vastly different. It's ME in eye candy and name only. So, my question would be, if your going to create a game vastly different than the 3 games that preceded it, why not just start fresh and create a whole new IP? Maybe they were hoping the name would elicit more sales? They must have know comparisons were going to be made and when it didn't live up to what came before it, that it was going to get slammed. GoG is Guardians of the Galaxy. Having just played the MET I think MEA is a better game than ME1 and ME2 and only ME3 completely outshines it EXCEPT for combat. That being said that is my personal opinion, I like what I like and I obviously like MEA as I am near finishing my 13th PT. In terms of whether MEA should have been a new IP who cares. That's not how it was launched and rightly or wrongly it is being judged for wearing the ME badge. Again personally I thought the Segway they used to bring MET into MEA based on the evacuation of species because of the Reaper threat was great and plausible and in no way detracts from the game itself. I like the back story and that's all it is, is a back story and I like the continuation of the ME brand in terms of using the same species etc. If I have one complaint it is the continued story arc of the genophage, they could have left that and the Krogan/Salarian antagonism in the Milky Way.
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on Jun 4, 2018 23:44:11 GMT
Starting from last month, I challenge anyone I see referring to Andromeda as "trash" to play it again and get back to me. So far it's been 4/4 successes. Not to be the sour dude, but... I mean, it's not trash, but I can't help to compare it to other games in the trilogy, since Bioware itself did it. If it were another developer, sure, different story, but it's not. One would think it would mantain the same level of quality as other games. Sure, they did try reexploring some concepts, like the Mako/Nomad exploration, present in the first game. Sometimes things became too familiar. Just saying "We're in Andromeda" every two minutes is NOT being on Andromeda. Same cliche: "show, don't tell". Just the presence of the Angara and Kett forces wasn't an "Wow!" factor to me. And I did play it again. I enjoyed it, but not the same as when I replay other games, Mass Effect or not. Sometimes, Andromeda feels a bit weird to me. The pacing is not that good, since you are stuck with different quests through different planets, and sometimes these just unlock properly later ingame. So, yeah. I had my faith it could do something better. Andromeda was good, but not what I(speaking for myself, of course) was expecting from a company such as Bioware.
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on Jun 4, 2018 23:48:56 GMT
There’s the rub. Comparing it to the OT. It’s vastly different and was meant to be. And what is the GoG fan base? I already explained why I and many others compare it to the OT. Your right in it being vastly different. It's ME in eye candy and name only. So, my question would be, if your going to create a game vastly different than the 3 games that preceded it, why not just start fresh and create a whole new IP? Maybe they were hoping the name would elicit more sales? They must have know comparisons were going to be made and when it didn't live up to what came before it, that it was going to get slammed. GoG is Guardians of the Galaxy. And no, it's not like that. It's a spin off, not a direct sequel to the ME Trilogy. The political conflict between races, especially Krogan and Salarians (Tann), that caused the Krogan to leave the Nexus, the mention of the Citadel and a previous galaxy, the Genophage dillema, Asari Commandos, Mass Effect Fields, Biotics, Omni-Tools, Medi-Gel... I could go on for lots of line, but the point is that the elements that made Mass Effect are there (Apart from the Relays, because y'know, Andromeda and all). Just like what makes Dragon Age, for example, isn't the Warden, Hakwe or even the Inquisitor, but things that are there in the background, told and untold by the story.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 5, 2018 2:42:51 GMT
Starting from last month, I challenge anyone I see referring to Andromeda as "trash" to play it again and get back to me. So far it's been 4/4 successes. Make it 4/5 - still trash. I do try and like Bioware games and tend to give them repeated attempts. But then again if someone abandoned the game because of the emptiness of the world (Bioware doesn't know what makes exploration exciting), the quality of the dialogue ("my face is tired"), the lack of choices (no renegade), the characters (Cora is annoying, Peebee is annoying, Liam is annoying, Drack is okay though, Jaal is dull) etc, patching the animation isn't going to help that person much ... Combat is good though. Very fun. You sound like someone who hasn't actually played the game recently so you don't count.
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