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Post by izut on Apr 8, 2018 14:30:51 GMT
I still think they'll try to milk the Trilogy as much as possible. Origin DLC bundles are one of the reasons why I think so - they're selling ALL possible DLCs and addons in those bundles. Hoodie, Sophie, Guns, Armors etc that were parts of deluxe and collector editions included. I don't mind, I finally have everything I wanted when it comes to MET.
They'll probably do at least some kind of porting or remake of MET because PS4 owners can't play it.
And I'm crossing my fingers for Nintendo Switch port, with all DLCs. It's a great opportunity to interest new gamers and give fans a new way to enjoy the game. I'd buy the whole thing for the 3rd time and play it whenever and wherever I want.
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 8, 2018 15:42:35 GMT
There's likely going to be more mass effect at some point, I don't see any other reason why else they added save game setup functionality to the ME version of the DA keep, but I wouldn't expect it any time soon. They'll be focused on Anthem for the time being, and if that does well we will probably see a DA sequel first. They also said to keep your ME3 saves and that turned out to be pointless. Yeah, I understand. To both. My expectations are along the lines of: 2019 - No ME news. Anthem. DA4 news. --- ANTHEM YEAR 2020 - No or little ME news. DA4. Anthem updates continue. --- DA4 YEAR 2021 - Little or some ME news. Anthem updates may continue. DA4 updates continue. (a 'live service' year) 2022 - We know by this time whether Mass Effect is coming or not, or whether they'll do some Anthem 2 or somesuch. Release this year? Or 2023? Or 2024? Early-to-mid 2020s Mass Effect if at all, most likely to me. Next gen, cross gen at least. They squandered the shot at a Montreal made MEA2 for around 2020, and if it goes later than mid-2020s, which is doubtful for franchise potential, we may be talking absolute reboot, remake of trilogy, whatever. I have the strong feeling it depends on Anthem. Part of why so much is being devoted to it. It does poorly, all is at risk. It does okay, I don't know. It does well, Mass Effect may come. It does absolutely fantastic, a gigantic moneymaker Bioware may become the Anthem studio, even to the point of leaving DA behind. ME3 saves applied to DLC, which technically did address the ending (Extended Cut) and campaign progress (the others, but especially Citadel). Perhaps they had plans for a more plot impactful DLC than Citadel, but we got Citadel and it used our kept saves. Mass Effect Archives added that choice timeline, yes. I do expect any next game (that isn't a far away reboot or remake), to utilize this feature to color the game with references, nods, and extents of consequences, less or more like DAI did, without the game hinging on it (as arguably ME2 almost did, and ME3 significantly did). A direct MEA sequel isn't looking too likely now IMO, but I'd be pretty surprised if Bioware decided to leave all the plot of MEA behind. Its easy to imagine another adventure with another protagonist, but somewhat like DAI, using mission arcs to address both loose threads from MEA and returning concepts from MET (we're past the 'fresh start' phase; I expect nostalgiabucks even if not a full return to Shepard's Story).
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 8, 2018 15:52:47 GMT
They also said to keep your ME3 saves and that turned out to be pointless. I think they're making the ME version of DA keep so that if ME comes back they could reboot it again, or move to another name title and let you set your world state like DA. That would probably be their safest bet. Not going back to the MW and having to handwave and retcon a bunch of stuff, and not giving more of Ryder and the crew for people that didn't like ME:A. It worked with Inquisition after DA:2, and they'll probably give it a try for ME if the series comes back. They could also give it another try at attracting a new generation of fans, using the whole you didn't have to play previous ME games to jump in here. When the EA exec said it had to be fresh and relevant if they brought ME back, he's probably talking about something like this. I think they're most likely to do a fresh environment (at least mostly, and not counting expansions), with a fresh story, but utilize tools and fanbase to fill that out with references or even some relevance of older games. They did the 'fresh start' with MEA and there's no need to do that again, so I can see an even 'newer start' but this start not being so exclusively fresh. Newer as in an even newer approach than Pathfinder to N7, or Tempest to Normandy, or Nexus to Citadel, or Kett/Remnant to Reapers, but allowing references and relevance to be more direct when they do happen. Our Ryder and co. come from the Milky Way. Enough time or events could pass, for all we know, that we could play someone NOT from the Milky Way, or at least has various ways of being even less tied to it. Expand into the Andromeda galaxy or elsewhere, but keep more of the past alongside. Salvage as much of a MEA2 as they can handle, but being okay now if any particular thing is determined to be something they can't handle. As in, such a new direction on what would be a MEA2, that it isn't MEA2. They'll know there's still a lot of more silent gamers that like and appreciate material from MEA so they wouldn't actually drop everything from that game, but I don't at all expect to be in the Tempest again with mostly same characters and Ryder protagonist. Not based on EA communications so far, at least. And there's enough talk of communications, bridging, and returning elements from the MET in MEA (IMO) that I only see such things increasing, even if we wouldn't get a 'returning only to MW and MW issues' game. Even DA2 had most of its plot relate to DAI, even if in not necessarily the smoothest ways. Even DAO set a lot of the tone and characters of DAI, even if in rarely necessary ways. Yes MET is another beast, so I don't expect the same thing, but I do think Mass Effect has at least gotten past its supposedly required new start phase, and it can get to the meatier stuff that we see hinted or started throughout, but almost never followed through within MEA itself. TLDR I think they could do a more true soft reboot (that is, super new but clearly part of a continuity) than MEA tried to be. MEA, in my opinion, was too stuck in the mud of escaping and not offending people too much about ME3.
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 8, 2018 16:12:40 GMT
I still think they'll try to milk the Trilogy as much as possible. Origin DLC bundles are one of the reasons why I think so - they're selling ALL possible DLCs and addons in those bundles. Hoodie, Sophie, Guns, Armors etc that were parts of deluxe and collector editions included. I don't mind, I finally have everything I wanted when it comes to MET. They'll probably do at least some kind of porting or remake of MET because PS4 owners can't play it. And I'm crossing my fingers for Nintendo Switch port, with all DLCs. It's a great opportunity to interest new gamers and give fans a new way to enjoy the game. I'd buy the whole thing for the 3rd time and play it whenever and wherever I want. I can see a Switch port and full collection happening before a next game, for sure.
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Post by ayenari on Apr 9, 2018 4:24:34 GMT
There's likely going to be more mass effect at some point, I don't see any other reason why else they added save game setup functionality to the ME version of the DA keep, but I wouldn't expect it any time soon. They'll be focused on Anthem for the time being, and if that does well we will probably see a DA sequel first. They also said to keep your ME3 saves and that turned out to be pointless. As has already been stated, Bioware telling people via social media to hold onto their saves locally, and bioware as a developer putting in work to facilitate that save data access on their end isn't the same thing. Even more so when that feature went live well after Bioware Montreal ceased to exist. It's not a confirmation that a mass effect game is going to happen, it is however a sign EA sees value in the IP beyond just burying it and forgetting about it.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 9, 2018 16:04:17 GMT
They also said to keep your ME3 saves and that turned out to be pointless. As has already been stated, Bioware telling people via social media to hold onto their saves locally, and bioware as a developer putting in work to facilitate that save data access on their end isn't the same thing. Even more so when that feature went live well after Bioware Montreal ceased to exist. It's not a confirmation that a mass effect game is going to happen, it is however a sign EA sees value in the IP beyond just burying it and forgetting about it. Yeah it's more a let's be prepared for anything sort of situation.
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Post by cooldude on Apr 19, 2018 13:23:48 GMT
Is there be a 2nd game for Andromeda and will it be with EA ??
Will we ever find out who killed Garson, Who is the benefactor is ? My money is on a complete reboot of the Mass Effect series. Because by the time they get around to making another Mass Effect game, no one is going to care about the old Mass Effects; We're likely looking at a 6-10 year gap until we hear anything about Mass Effect again.
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 19, 2018 14:05:21 GMT
Is there be a 2nd game for Andromeda and will it be with EA ??
Will we ever find out who killed Garson, Who is the benefactor is ? My money is on a complete reboot of the Mass Effect series. Because by the time they get around to making another Mass Effect game, no one is going to care about the old Mass Effects; We're likely looking at a 6-10 year gap until we hear anything about Mass Effect again. Andrew Wilson said that "...even if you look at Mass Effect, and while there was some polarizing sentiment in that franchise, it's actually performed really well, and player engagement is really strong..." in the latest earnings call. That could mean there is going to be another Mass Effect game sooner then you think, but it probably won't be until a new Dragon Age game which seems to be BioWare's MO by rotating their releases by franchise. My understanding from what I have been reading is that "Player Engagement" is what the publishers want to see more then copies sold for that is people sticking around and spending money for next to no effort on their part. Even if it is that long I don't think players are going to forget the first Mass Effect trilogy and move on. People still hold Westwood Studios against EA and that studio was closed fifteen years ago and there doesn't seem to be any sign of that dislike going away anytime soon. Besides if people aren't caring about the original trilogy I don't see a point of making a reboot for those always seem to be blatant nostalgia grabs. If anything in that scenario you describe I think a different approach to the game would be more likely then a rehash of the first games.
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 19, 2018 17:21:40 GMT
My money is on a complete reboot of the Mass Effect series. Because by the time they get around to making another Mass Effect game, no one is going to care about the old Mass Effects; We're likely looking at a 6-10 year gap until we hear anything about Mass Effect again. Andrew Wilson said that "...even if you look at Mass Effect, and while there was some polarizing sentiment in that franchise, it's actually performed really well, and player engagement is really strong..." in the latest earnings call. That could mean there is going to be another Mass Effect game sooner then you think, but it probably won't be until a new Dragon Age game which seems to be BioWare's MO by rotating their releases by franchise. My understanding from what I have been reading is that "Player Engagement" is what the publishers want to see more then copies sold for that is people sticking around and spending money for next to no effort on their part. Even if it is that long I don't think players are going to forget the first Mass Effect trilogy and move on. People still hold Westwood Studios against EA and that studio was closed fifteen years ago and there doesn't seem to be any sign of that dislike going away anytime soon. Besides if people aren't caring about the original trilogy I don't see a point of making a reboot for those always seem to be blatant nostalgia grabs. If anything in that scenario you describe I think a different approach to the game would be more likely then a rehash of the first games. Plus a reboot would be more risky than MEA2.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 19, 2018 17:45:58 GMT
I wouldn't rule out a reboot. When DA4's lead writer left he said that while he had intended a direct sequel to DAI about Solus, he also believed they might do a complete DA reboot. If they do it there, where DA games were all successful, it doesn't seem like it's impossible that they would do the same for ME. It's not what I would want, especially since I think they'd try to pepper it with additional ways to pay for more content. Like stuff we got in the OT that was included would become something we need to pay for. It's part of why I'm against a reboot or a remaster.
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 20, 2018 4:02:59 GMT
I wouldn't rule out a reboot. When DA4's lead writer left he said that while he had intended a direct sequel to DAI about Solus, he also believed they might do a complete DA reboot. If they do it there, where DA games were all successful, it doesn't seem like it's impossible that they would do the same for ME. It's not what I would want, especially since I think they'd try to pepper it with additional ways to pay for more content. Like stuff we got in the OT that was included would become something we need to pay for. It's part of why I'm against a reboot or a remaster. Anything is possible, but I think it would be a mistake since both Mass Effect and Dragon Age are about the story and rebooting it really won't improve upon the original releases unlike a game that is based more on mechanics and systems. I don't go out and buy a novel over again because they released a new version with a new cover for I own a previous printing and I can go back to that and get the same out of it as buying it again. Combine that with things that people might not like such as changing choices or events that might be liked or enjoyed as they are now, it just seems really risky over releasing something new without the baggage of being compared to what happened before.
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Post by SalMasRac on Apr 20, 2018 5:11:07 GMT
maybe they will wait for the mass effect movie to come out and then base a reboot game on the movie and call it Mass Effect The Movie The Game The Movie Game
I won't be buying it
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 20, 2018 5:25:05 GMT
maybe they will wait for the mass effect movie to come out and then base a reboot game on the movie and call it Mass Effect The Movie The Game The Movie Game If that's the case, we'll be waiting forever.
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Post by SwobyJ on May 2, 2018 7:27:51 GMT
I tend to feel that some Bioware people's definition of 'reboot' isn't the normal one.
I just don't see them totally dropping existing threads.
MEA was in many ways basically a 'soft reboot', but they still framed it as more of a 'fresh start' that still continues a few old things and has room left open to draw whatever they want from the past.
Sure with 4-6 (however you look at it) years between DA games there's an opportunity to give a very fresh take on the setting, being in the north and all, but something like scrapping the Solas plot doesn't just seem like a mistake, it seems idiotic. However, it 'minimized' to becoming just one of the several major threads in a story that ups the scales (not necessarily just in overt epicness, mind you)? Well sure.
And what may be 4-6 years between ME(A) games can be similar, though perhaps with more of a push to not feel as beholden to MEA as DA could be to DAI.
Either way, it'd be a giant task to truly reboot either IP, and otherwise something really really hard to just ignore plotlines already set up. Not impossible, but you'd be facing both an upset fanbase and a potentially confused mainstream audience.
If there's anything I want additional Bioware studios for, it isn't necessarily something like 'The new Mass Effect studio' (like Montreal), but one that can be more experimental with 'secondary' games they want to try anyway. Dragon Age tactics, Mass Effect versus, Dragon Age cards, Jade Empire mobile game audience testing... all that. Get that energy out there while chugging away at the working main series.
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Post by griffith82 on May 2, 2018 12:50:34 GMT
I tend to feel that some Bioware people's definition of 'reboot' isn't the normal one. I just don't see them totally dropping existing threads. MEA was in many ways basically a 'soft reboot', but they still framed it as more of a 'fresh start' that still continues a few old things and has room left open to draw whatever they want from the past. Sure with 4-6 (however you look at it) years between DA games there's an opportunity to give a very fresh take on the setting, being in the north and all, but something like scrapping the Solas plot doesn't just seem like a mistake, it seems idiotic. However, it 'minimized' to becoming just one of the several major threads in a story that ups the scales (not necessarily just in overt epicness, mind you)? Well sure. And what may be 4-6 years between ME(A) games can be similar, though perhaps with more of a push to not feel as beholden to MEA as DA could be to DAI. Either way, it'd be a giant task to truly reboot either IP, and otherwise something really really hard to just ignore plotlines already set up. Not impossible, but you'd be facing both an upset fanbase and a potentially confused mainstream audience. If there's anything I want additional Bioware studios for, it isn't necessarily something like 'The new Mass Effect studio' (like Montreal), but one that can be more experimental with 'secondary' games they want to try anyway. Dragon Age tactics, Mass Effect versus, Dragon Age cards, Jade Empire mobile game audience testing... all that. Get that energy out there while chugging away at the working main series. I think a lot of people don’t get what reboot means. A reboot of ME would be like the Kelvin timeline of Star Trek. Very different but also the same and we’d get the same result if not worse from the fan base. Very split opinions. Very risky move.
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Post by alanc9 on May 2, 2018 16:12:05 GMT
My understanding of the case for rebooting is a bit fuzzy, but I thought that it's meant to draw non-fans in.
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Post by Sanunes on May 2, 2018 16:38:46 GMT
My understanding of the case for rebooting is a bit fuzzy, but I thought that it's meant to draw non-fans in. To me its a fresh start and not aimed at anyone in particular. The thing is the population will need to be willing to accept the reboot might not be what they remember about the first take on the game and to me that is something that should concern EA or BioWare if they are remotely thinking of this option. To me that is why the reboot of Tomb Raider in 2014 worked out the way it did was because people were willing to accept the new Lara Croft and I am just not sure if people would be willing to have a Shepard that doesn't function like they did in the first three Mass Effect games.
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Post by griffith82 on May 2, 2018 18:06:37 GMT
My understanding of the case for rebooting is a bit fuzzy, but I thought that it's meant to draw non-fans in. To me its a fresh start and not aimed at anyone in particular. The thing is the population will need to be willing to accept the reboot might not be what they remember about the first take on the game and to me that is something that should concern EA or BioWare if they are remotely thinking of this option. To me that is why the reboot of Tomb Raider in 2014 worked out the way it did was because people were willing to accept the new Lara Croft and I am just not sure if people would be willing to have a Shepard that doesn't function like they did in the first three Mass Effect games. I’m not fond of a reboot and hope they don’t.
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