Everything that was wrong with Andromeda. A video that sums it up well.

Ah, you're one of those...

(Not taking that ridiculous bait.)

No one said it didn't make money, I'm sure it sold well early.  But making money doesn't  mean it met expectations.  Even for arguments sake, if you take your numbers (5-6 million) that's below the expectations they set of 6 - 10 million, so what exactly is the disagreement here?  It missed projections, the only question is by how much.

People also need to learn making money doesn't automatically mean meeting expectations or satisfaction.  Since I'm psyched to go see Avengers: Infinity Wars next week I'll use that as an example.

I guarantee 200% Disney is expecting this movie to become the next billion dollar grossing film, especially after what we just saw with Black Panther.  Now say it makes 800 million.  It probably cost about 400 million to make and market.  Now Disney will still go to it's investors and the media and say the movie was financially successful, had one of the biggest openings ever, helped them make earnings, etc, all of which would be true.  But behind closed doors Disney would be disappointed if Infinity Wars finished with 800 million in gross earnings and they would have people looking into what went wrong.

I've never said ME:A didn't make money, I've always said the same thing.  It sold well early, but when it came time to make DLC and they looked at things like how many people finished it, finished it more than once, last time people played, how many people still had it installed, etc and they didn't feel the market was there for additional content.

I have a serious sense of deja vu from conversations in the infamous Katoku thread of almost a year ago.  Regardless, the data supporting your calculations is not new info.  We've been arguing the different nauances between terms like "selling well" and "meeting expectations" for eons.  Both sides on this issue are clearly deadlocked.  Those who feel that it did not sell as badly as some are implying remain convinced of their stance and those who are saying the sales were an unmitigated disaster remain convinced of their stance.  The truth, no doubt, is somewhere in the middle... but when someone says that they just seem to get it from both sides then.  At this point, only new sales figures (which only EA can provide) have any realistic hope of unlocking this deadlock.  Massaging the same old data over and over again is simply not going to do anything at this point.  As I said above... it's not a good chance they'll say anything, but it is the only chance for new data.

Expecting somewhere in sales between 7-9 million units for ME:A?  Yep, it's crazy.  Blake Jorgensen was setting it up for failure with that projection.

The projections I quoted were from a investor's conference.

Better view than the CFO?

Actually Blake never said anything like 6-10 millions. He expected 30-50% of MEAs lifetime sales in the first quarter. According to him ME3 sold almost 6 millions so 50% of that would be 3 millions. He goes on to say that the would expect about the same performance for MEA. But if they would sell 2 millions in the first quarter that would equally fulfil his expectations. He never implies anything about 6-9(10) millions. He only references the performance of ME3 and expects MEA to perform in the same vicinity.

"...you all played yourself?" 


How does this statement even makes sense in the given context?  Thanks for your usual nothing contribution to the topic.

Only problem here is that your not quoting Blake himself. What is even more fun is that you didn't bother to read your own source!   It is either that or your math are in need of a fresh up. Close to 6 millions is all he says, ever. 30-50% of those close to six in the first quarter. Nothing else.

Don’t feed the troll.

He said he expected 3 million at launch.  Not 1.8 to 3 million which would be what you;re trying to say, 30-50% of 6 million.   He said 3 million.  If you're expecting three million, there;s no need to give a range if your goal is six million.  I'm expecting three million in the first few days, which will be 50% of the projected sales of 6 million.  That's what he would have said.  But he said he expected 30 - 50% of the games lifetime sales to occur at launch, and he expected 3 million at launch.