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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 10, 2018 8:03:45 GMT
All a film could do is present a different Shepard to the one you played, it can’t “butcher” the character you played. Your Shepherd still exists in your game. There are differences. Most games have outcomes that are set. You might get to make some minor changes but it's still the same story. With Mass Effect, the changes are significant, from the gender and sexuality of your Shepard right on down to the existence/extinction of rachni, geth, quarians and krogan. That doesn't even account for the endings. As for it not mattering where the game is concerned, I disagree. People will claim its events are canon and it will cause not just controversy but bitterness. The Kaidan/Ashley choice alone is already divisive and it'll just end with either "Kaidan was boring so I'm glad he's dead" or "Ashley was racist so I'm glad she's dead". (Though, tbh, Kaidan won't appeal to most of the men the came tends to cater to and that will just annoy me.) No, I'm going to pass on this. I don't ultimately see any good coming out of this, especially if Paragon Lost is any indicator of the quality of a Mass Effect movie.
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 10, 2018 8:13:11 GMT
SofaJockey : Wouldn't this thread be better suited for Mass Effect Story, Lore and General Discussion? It deals with ME1 not MEA. You're not wrong, the only reason I'm reluctant to move it right now is because it's generating such a healthy discussion, and because a film adaptation is a kind of contemporary topic. I've made a link in the ME Story forum back here and we could still move it later when it quietens down.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 9:04:35 GMT
SofaJockey : Wouldn't this thread be better suited for Mass Effect Story, Lore and General Discussion? It deals with ME1 not MEA. You're not wrong, the only reason I'm reluctant to move it right now is because it's generating such a healthy discussion, and because a film adaptation is a kind of contemporary topic. I've made a link in the ME Story forum back here and we could still move it later when it quietens down. No worries. Sounds good to me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 10:08:26 GMT
All a film could do is present a different Shepard to the one you played, it can’t “butcher” the character you played. Your Shepherd still exists in your game. There are differences. Most games have outcomes that are set. You might get to make some minor changes but it's still the same story. With Mass Effect, the changes are significant, from the gender and sexuality of your Shepard right on down to the existence/extinction of rachni, geth, quarians and krogan. That doesn't even account for the endings. As for it not mattering where the game is concerned, I disagree. People will claim its events are canon and it will cause not just controversy but bitterness. The Kaidan/Ashley choice alone is already divisive and it'll just end with either "Kaidan was boring so I'm glad he's dead" or "Ashley was racist so I'm glad she's dead". (Though, tbh, Kaidan won't appeal to most of the men the came tends to cater to and that will just annoy me.) No, I'm going to pass on this. I don't ultimately see any good coming out of this, especially if Paragon Lost is any indicator of the quality of a Mass Effect movie. Well said. It's also completely possible to go without any number of NPC character side stories without getting into the mess of presenting a "canon" Shepard to the public at all. If the reason for not going with an ME:A movie to show is that it could further "taint" the franchise and "offend" those who did not like ME:A holds ANY validity, then there is an equally strong reason for not going with a mainstreamed Shepard and risking offending any player who did not play as that sort of Shepard. Adapting ME1's script is simply not necessary to making a Mass Effect movie or TV show. Another argument that was and continues to be used against ME:A is that there's so much of the Milky Way left unexplored - that there's just so many stories left untold in that universe that they never had to leave the Milky Way at all. WELL... if there's room in the Milky Way universe for making a new game, then there's certainly room for making a movie or TV show about something other than the main MET plot. Apart from that, I just think that whatever movie or TV show they try to do with Mass Effect would, most likely, be mediocre at best. Paragon Lost was, IMO, an utter joke of a movie - certainly no where near the quality of original animated sci-fi movies like Wall-E or The Iron Giant.
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All a film could do is present a different Shepard to the one you played, it can’t “butcher” the character you played. Your Shepherd still exists in your game. There are differences. Most games have outcomes that are set. You might get to make some minor changes but it's still the same story. With Mass Effect, the changes are significant, from the gender and sexuality of your Shepard right on down to the existence/extinction of rachni, geth, quarians and krogan. That doesn't even account for the endings. As for it not mattering where the game is concerned, I disagree. People will claim its events are canon and it will cause not just controversy but bitterness. The Kaidan/Ashley choice alone is already divisive and it'll just end with either "Kaidan was boring so I'm glad he's dead" or "Ashley was racist so I'm glad she's dead". (Though, tbh, Kaidan won't appeal to most of the men the came tends to cater to and that will just annoy me.) No, I'm going to pass on this. I don't ultimately see any good coming out of this, especially if Paragon Lost is any indicator of the quality of a Mass Effect movie. I could maybe have been a bit clearer. I understand that some (many?) people do feel this way, and I know I'm not going to change any minds. Just that it's something I don't feel, even remotely, so I find it quite interesting that others feel strongly about it. As far as I'm concerned it would simply be a story about one of the possible Shepards we could have played. An alternative universe to the one I played, if you like. Sex and sexuality changes included. I could even argue that because it was an option, and that others probably did play Shepard that way, it might even seem less of a problem than when films mess with an established character. ie. They'd pick one of the possible characters and go with it, instead of changing the character. In my mind anyway. As for the canon argument, I wouldn't care about that either. I already know most people played Broshep while I preferred Femshep. He was on all the boxes and in the trailers, after all. I'm sure everyone thinks as their own Shepard as the "real" Shepard, and I'm in the minority anyway. If anyone wanted to think of the film version as canon, it would make no difference to me. It might matter more if there was going to be a continuation of his/her story, but since Shepard is alive/dead/cyborg/AI god, I don't see how that is going to happen without picking a canon anyway (which would probably mean alive and still human).
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Post by dagless on Apr 10, 2018 19:12:27 GMT
If the reason for not going with an ME:A movie to show is that it could further "taint" the franchise and "offend" those who did not like ME:A holds ANY validity, then there is an equally strong reason for not going with a mainstreamed Shepard and risking offending any player who did not play as that sort of Shepard. I think the main reason they wouldn't do ME:A is that far fewer people liked it. It might offend fewer hardcore fans, but it doesn't exactly scream commercial success either.
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If the reason for not going with an ME:A movie to show is that it could further "taint" the franchise and "offend" those who did not like ME:A holds ANY validity, then there is an equally strong reason for not going with a mainstreamed Shepard and risking offending any player who did not play as that sort of Shepard. I think the main reason they wouldn't do ME:A is that far fewer people liked it. It might offend fewer hardcore fans, but it doesn't exactly scream commercial success either. I say that is an unknown. If it's a great, well written movie, it would override any ill feelings about the game. Note - I'm not talking about redoing the ME:A story in film, I'm talking about a new story that picks up after ME:A's current story left off. It's wide open as to what it would be about. It could introduce new species, new characters and even lead the whole thing back to the Milky Way to connect with the Old Trilogy without disturbing it. If people are "offended" by a new story in a different media even if it's well written and produced (and even before it comes out), then THEY have the problem. A lot of movie goers don't even play video games. They are two different media. Whereas, a badly adapted ME1 movie will hurt the franchise just as easily as an ME:A one would. Just add it to the growing junk pile of mediocre video-gamish movies. As I said above though, I really don't care if they do any side story they want to do. Just leave Shepard out of it and they shouldn't offend anyone regardless of how they played the games. It's only those still lobbying for a remake of the same old game (ironically, not because they loved it all, but because they hated the endings) that are blocking any new ideas from hitting the franchise. THEY have the problem. I'm also really not looking forward to seeing a bunch of threads and videos pop up ranting in detail about how this or that little thing in the movie breaks away from the ME1 game lore. Furthermore, I resent your classing ME:A fans as something less that MET "hardcore" fans. I'm willing to bet I'm every bit as much an MET hardcore fan as you. I've played the entire Trilogy well over 25 times now, not including partial replays. I've also played ME:A at least 8 times now. I'm just not insisting the Bioware put a canon stamp on a particular type of Shepard (white male renegade per the majority) or put a canon stamp on the Destroy ending. I don't need them to do that in order to still enjoy the Trilogy right through to the end. At this stage, what I want Bioware to create is something completely new... not a rehash of the old game story. I wish Hollywood would get off this current remake everything trend and actually come up with some fresh new ideas as well.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 10, 2018 23:35:01 GMT
Shepard's death would need to be handled very differently. It was bad enough in a video game, but killing and reviving the main character within the first 5 minutes of a movie would be absurd. Killing and reviving the character might actually become kind of a joke. It was silly enough in the game, but it being a game made it easier to overlook. A movie wouldn’t be so lucky. Like, what? Why the frack are we bringing some dead soldier back? What good is that? The one unique thing about Shepard, being the cypher, ceased to be useful after the Race Against Time.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 11, 2018 2:53:45 GMT
To the point about the Omega 4 relay, the existence of the IFF doesn’t necessarily mean that the relay was around that long. The relay could conceivably have been constructed much later, even during the end of the Prothean cycle. The reapers would already have the IFF for each other, and could just as well equip that special relay with it too.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 11, 2018 3:13:48 GMT
If the reason for not going with an ME:A movie to show is that it could further "taint" the franchise and "offend" those who did not like ME:A holds ANY validity, then there is an equally strong reason for not going with a mainstreamed Shepard and risking offending any player who did not play as that sort of Shepard. I think the main reason they wouldn't do ME:A is that far fewer people liked it. It might offend fewer hardcore fans, but it doesn't exactly scream commercial success either. OTOH, far fewer people would be upset if "their" Ryder wasn't represented. We wouldn't have one of the major issues (animations, which were fixed anyway) and get a tighter story that doesn't leave us with major unresolved plots. That would take care of most of the problems people had. With Shepard, it's an issue. I've detailed it in other posts and not going to rehash it here.
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Post by Felya87 on Apr 11, 2018 13:10:21 GMT
I would welcome a tv show in the ME world, or even amovie, as long as is a side story. I would love something about Garrus and his team on Omega, for example, but I would prefer even more something completely unrelated but who touch all the places and groups we have know in the trilogy. But an adaptation of the trilogy? No. I would never be able to stomach a Shapard that is not mine. Even just the fact thst it would probably be male would not sit well with me. I firmly believe a MShep/Liara would be pushed in, and as a Garrusmancer, I would not be interested in that Shepard.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 11, 2018 15:25:47 GMT
I dunno. Liara's the LI for sure, but I think FShep would work just fine.
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Post by dagless on Apr 11, 2018 19:19:51 GMT
I think the main reason they wouldn't do ME:A is that far fewer people liked it. It might offend fewer hardcore fans, but it doesn't exactly scream commercial success either. OTOH, far fewer people would be upset if "their" Ryder wasn't represented. We wouldn't have one of the major issues (animations, which were fixed anyway) and get a tighter story that doesn't leave us with major unresolved plots. That would take care of most of the problems people had. With Shepard, it's an issue. I've detailed it in other posts and not going to rehash it here. That may be the case, but no studio would touch Andromeda with a barge pole. That was my point. A major film isn't going to be catering for hardcore fans, but looking for universal appeal. The millions of casuals who played it, the millions more who heard of it but didn't actually play, plus everyone else who might just be interested in a sci fi film. The original ME has: €pic $tory Well Lov€d Character$ Iconic $hip The Nostalgia £actor ME:A was utterly slated on release. Even after most of the technical problems were fixed, the chief complaints about ME:A are story and characters. If someone's going to gamble a couple of hundred million dollars on one of those, there's just no contest.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 11, 2018 21:12:03 GMT
I think people are overestimating how many people would be turned off by this, and making it more complicated than it is. You would think during the movie, the action will pause, then red and white flags will pop up in the corners of the screen, and Shepard will make a choice.
You're basically talking about Shepard vs Saren in a back and forth, action on the story planets, Sovereign appearing, a huge space fight, and Shepard beating Saren and saving the day. In between all of this you would have Liara mind melding with Shepard giving clues into the reapers and their motivations. Maybe even add some flashbacks if it's a TV series and you have time.
As for some choices. 82% of people played male Shepard, and Kaiden was only alive in 17% of ME3 playthroughs. Add to that some people in both categories probably did both, the number of people who solely played Femshep or only rescued Kaiden is probably small. Then out of that or any of the other things that may be decided, how many people will actually care? And by care, I mean will not go see the movie because of it.
Saren dies and causes Sovereign to die in everybody's playthrough.
I doubt they would make an ME movie at this point, but ME1 would not be that hard to put on film. You could not even address most of the choices from the game because they don't impact the first game aside from Virmire, and players clearly have a preference there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 22:09:11 GMT
OTOH, far fewer people would be upset if "their" Ryder wasn't represented. We wouldn't have one of the major issues (animations, which were fixed anyway) and get a tighter story that doesn't leave us with major unresolved plots. That would take care of most of the problems people had. With Shepard, it's an issue. I've detailed it in other posts and not going to rehash it here. That may be the case, but no studio would touch Andromeda with a barge pole. That was my point. A major film isn't going to be catering for hardcore fans, but looking for universal appeal. The millions of casuals who played it, the millions more who heard of it but didn't actually play, plus everyone else who might just be interested in a sci fi film. The original ME has: €pic $tory Well Lov€d Character$ Iconic $hip The Nostalgia £actor ME:A was utterly slated on release. Even after most of the technical problems were fixed, the chief complaints about ME:A are story and characters. If someone's going to gamble a couple of hundred million dollars on one of those, there's just no contest. I actually don't think they'll touch ME1 or the MET with a barge pole either. They've sat on that idea for years now and not been convinced to act on it yet... and nothing has changed about it. If it was such a great, no fail cash cow idea, they would have jumped on it ages ago. Whatever obstacles that prevented them from being sold on it up until now still exist.
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Apr 11, 2018 22:46:27 GMT
I actually think ME1 could be compressed into a reasonably entertaining and complete 2-hour movie. Obviously the side missions have to go, but you could preserve the basic core of the game. First off, shorten up the action sequences to 5-10 minutes at a time rather than the longer stretches of running around and shooting in the game. Then break it down as follows: - The Normandy launches and goes to Eden Prime to fill in the backstory, introduce Saren, and have Shepard receive the vision. Bring Liara in here, under the premise of the Council and Alliance recruiting her for her prothean expertise, and Shepard's squad finds her in the course of saving the colony.
- The Citadel investigation is mostly the same, with Tali, Garrus, and Wrex all coming on board and Shepard getting appointed a Spectre.
- The next mission is set somewhere along the lines of Noveria, with allusions to Cerberus and illegal experiments popping up, but instead of the genophage subplot, they find Saren attempting to breed an army of rachni drones at the Binary Helix facility. The STG show up and the same improvised nuke plan is hatched to wipe out the drones. Shepard obtains the cipher from the rachni queen instead of from Shiala, and the confrontations with Sovereign and Saren take place before the lab is destroyed.
- From here you can mostly continue with the game's timeline: Shepard's crew "goes rogue" to get to Ilos, they talk to Vigil, and they use the Conduit in order to return for the Battle of the Citadel.
ME2, if they did want to adapt it, would probably benefit from doing away with the whole "Shepard dies and comes back" thing - it seemed mostly an excuse to put Shepard with Cerberus, which was itself an excuse for being "darker and edgier." Instead, just send Shepard's crew off to investigate the colony disappearances with an assignment to bring in some additional off-the-books operatives so as to avoid drawing too much attention via reassignments of Alliance or other Council species soldiers. This could still account for pretty much all the ME2 crew except Miranda. For ME3, I think the main changes to make (in addition to compressing the story, of course) would be to have the Reapers starting to cause trouble around the outskirts rather than have a full-blown invasion in progress, with the attack on Earth not beginning until closer to the end of the movie. For the missions, I'd focus on Sur'Kesh/Tuchanka, Leviathan, and maybe a combination of Horizon and Cronos. Instead of the geth and quarians going to war and the Reaper code upload decision, just have the geth remain non-heretic after the events of ME2 and show up to save somebody's bacon unexpectedly at some point.
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Post by dagless on Apr 12, 2018 5:17:18 GMT
I actually don't think they'll touch ME1 or the MET with a barge pole either. They've sat on that idea for years now and not been convinced to act on it yet... and nothing has changed about it. If it was such a great, no fail cash cow idea, they would have jumped on it ages ago. Whatever obstacles that prevented them from being sold on it up until now still exist. I didn't mean it couldn't fail, only that there's some potential. The rights have changed hands a couple of times, and a apparently a few people had a crack at the script, but that's about all we heard. If the latest fad had been for space opera rather than superheros, I think it might have happened. (Although I never really understood the logic of everyone competing with the same thing anyway). Even then, it would need to do what every other computer game adaption has failed to do and actually be half decent.
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Post by river82 on Apr 12, 2018 5:46:46 GMT
I actually don't think they'll touch ME1 or the MET with a barge pole either. They've sat on that idea for years now and not been convinced to act on it yet... and nothing has changed about it. If it was such a great, no fail cash cow idea, they would have jumped on it ages ago. Whatever obstacles that prevented them from being sold on it up until now still exist. I didn't mean it couldn't fail, only that there's some potential. The rights have changed hands a couple of times, and a apparently a few people had a crack at the script, but that's about all we heard. If the latest fad had been for space opera rather than superheros, I think it might have happened. (Although I never really understood the logic of everyone competing with the same thing anyway). Even then, it would need to do what every other computer game adaption has failed to do and actually be half decent. It's a massive risk. Sci-fi is expensive to make, so I don't think Hollywood will risk it. Especially considering Mass Effect has taken a hit to its reputation in recent years. There's plenty of popular novels and comics out there for Hollywood to mine so I don't think we'll ever be seeing ME on the big screen even if there's a sudden sci fi fad in Hollywood.
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The next mission is set somewhere along the lines of Noveria, with allusions to Cerberus and illegal experiments popping up, but instead of the genophage subplot, they find Saren attempting to breed an army of rachni drones at the Binary Helix facility. The STG show up and the same improvised nuke plan is hatched to wipe out the drones. Shepard obtains the cipher from the rachni queen instead of from Shiala, and the confrontations with Sovereign and Saren take place before the lab is destroyed. Yeah, this is the kind of thing I’d expect, if anyone did get round to it. However another obvious way to fit in more planets, areas or story arcs into a film is to split the squad. Few films just follow one character around anyway. Cutting between locations breaks up the film and also gives other characters a bit more screen time. It’s easier to deal with than just showing everything in a linear fashion. So maybe drop Kaiden, Garrus and Liara off to investigate Noveria, while the rest go to Virmire. This of course removes the big choice moment of who to sacrifice, but maybe that’s not a bad thing. You can easily kill of one them off and have Shephard blame him/herself anyway, without an obvious gamey decision. Although that does screw up your cypher idea, so maybe something else would be needed to put info in Sheps head. Perhaps talking to Sovereign triggers something? I’d also consider having Garrus find Tali as part of his own investigation before even meeting Shepard. That plot could be spread over the Eden Prime and Council stuff, and even expanded a little, showing Garrus trying to find dirt on Saren and Tali being hunted.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 18:08:37 GMT
I didn't mean it couldn't fail, only that there's some potential. The rights have changed hands a couple of times, and a apparently a few people had a crack at the script, but that's about all we heard. If the latest fad had been for space opera rather than superheros, I think it might have happened. (Although I never really understood the logic of everyone competing with the same thing anyway). Even then, it would need to do what every other computer game adaption has failed to do and actually be half decent. It's a massive risk. Sci-fi is expensive to make, so I don't think Hollywood will risk it. Especially considering Mass Effect has taken a hit to its reputation in recent years. There's plenty of popular novels and comics out there for Hollywood to mine so I don't think we'll ever be seeing ME on the big screen even if there's a sudden sci fi fad in Hollywood. Exactly my feelings. Whatever problems caused them to back away from doing a ME movie in the past is still there (cost, decent script, etc.) and they are now compounded by the hits the franchise has taken to it's reputation. Those hits don't just limit the idea of making an ME:A movie, they affect any ME1, ME2, or ME3 movie as well. My opinion (and it is just an opinion), the "taint" affects them all equally; it's only some people in the fan base that want to differentiate. The general movie-going public won't make that sort of distinction. If they do manage to pitch any sort of ME idea to Hollywood, where the rubber will hit the road will solely be based on the quality of that movie or TV series. If it's good (i.e. much better than the average video-game movie), it will have a good impact on the prospect of future games. If not good, it will be just another hit to the franchise's reputation.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 20:37:26 GMT
As for some choices. 82% of people played male Shepard, and Kaiden was only alive in 17% of ME3 playthroughs. Add to that some people in both categories probably did both, the number of people who solely played Femshep or only rescued Kaiden is probably small. Then out of that or any of the other things that may be decided, how many people will actually care? And by care, I mean will not go see the movie because of it. I certainly wouldn't. I'm not terribly keen on watching youtubes with other people's interpretations of Shepard - I wouldn't even want to see trailers of any movie starring some screenwriters' version of Shepard. Not only no, but hell no.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 13, 2018 23:10:32 GMT
I think people are overestimating how many people would be turned off by this, and making it more complicated than it is. You would think during the movie, the action will pause, then red and white flags will pop up in the corners of the screen, and Shepard will make a choice. You're basically talking about Shepard vs Saren in a back and forth, action on the story planets, Sovereign appearing, a huge space fight, and Shepard beating Saren and saving the day. In between all of this you would have Liara mind melding with Shepard giving clues into the reapers and their motivations. Maybe even add some flashbacks if it's a TV series and you have time. As for some choices. 82% of people played male Shepard, and Kaiden was only alive in 17% of ME3 playthroughs. Add to that some people in both categories probably did both, the number of people who solely played Femshep or only rescued Kaiden is probably small. Then out of that or any of the other things that may be decided, how many people will actually care? And by care, I mean will not go see the movie because of it. Saren dies and causes Sovereign to die in everybody's playthrough. I doubt they would make an ME movie at this point, but ME1 would not be that hard to put on film. You could not even address most of the choices from the game because they don't impact the first game aside from Virmire, and players clearly have a preference there. For games that feel personalized, I have to say that I have little to no interest in any adaptation of it. It'd really have to be considered so amazing you might nerdgasm all over yourself when watching it, and even then I'd be pretty skeptical. It's that personalized feel that helps Mass Effect maintain that allure, like Dragon Age, and other games that follow a similar model. And to make it worse, the movie would lose so much of what made the world interesting, because it could never take its time to focus on the various histories of the setting. As for how many people would go see it, the people who know or care about Mass Effect are likely a pretty small percentage of the population, so however many of them even refuse to go see it probably won't matter. Regular people by and large would just go see it because it's a big-budget action scifi movie. Thinking more about this, part of me would probably enjoy seeing how people rip into the internal logic of the film adaptation, assuming it follows the same basic plot as the game. At the same time, I'd feel a bit sad to watch Mass Effect be affected by the same curse that dooms all video game movies to be turrible.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 14, 2018 5:12:31 GMT
As for some choices. 82% of people played male Shepard, and Kaiden was only alive in 17% of ME3 playthroughs. Add to that some people in both categories probably did both, the number of people who solely played Femshep or only rescued Kaiden is probably small. Then out of that or any of the other things that may be decided, how many people will actually care? And by care, I mean will not go see the movie because of it. I certainly wouldn't. I'm not terribly keen on watching youtubes with other people's interpretations of Shepard - I wouldn't even want to see trailers of any movie starring some screenwriters' version of Shepard. Not only no, but hell no. I wouldn't see it. If Kaidan isn't going to have a major squadmate role, that movie can go fuck itself.
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 28, 2018 15:31:23 GMT
If they ever make a Mass Effect movie, it should be an original story featuring original characters. Trying to encapsulate even one third of Shepard’s journey will only rile the overly obsessive fans (who can’t even deal with the idea of a “canon ending” to the trilogy for the sake of progress). It would not likely be able to give those previously unacquainted with the characters any real appreciation for Shepard and his crew. It’s pointless.
In an imaginary scenario in which it would be viable, an ongoing series set in the ME Universe could be cool. I’d love to see the setting brought to life. I just don’t see anyone doing right by it, nor any reason to specifically try to retell the story from the game. VG films are nearly universally terrible.
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