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Post by HK90210 on May 9, 2018 3:34:41 GMT
So...thinking long-term here, what movies would you like to see happen after Avengers 4? My wishlist: 1. Iron Man 5, complete with Peter Parker in a supporting role, the REAL Mandarin as the villain and Tony ending up broken enough physically that being in the suit is no longer an option. Never, ever, ever getting back in that suit again. Give him a cane or something. And maybe Have Morgan Stark, the future son hinted at in Infinity War, take over the Iron Man identity and ACTUALLY be his dad's bodyguard like in the comics!  2. Thor 4, where Thor begins to lose his powers and become similar to his banished self from the first movie. It has something to do with the loss of Asgard in Ragnorok. All sorts of stuff can happen in the middle of the movie, but it ends with Thor remaking Mjolnr, and speaking like his father did in the first film, "Whosoever holds this hammer, if 'they' be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor". He puts the hammer down one last time and walks off into the sunset and reconciled with Jane. Edit: And speaking of Jane, have her get to space somehow. Let the astrophysicist be out in the stars. Maybe meet the Guardians and stuff. 3. Fantastic 4 in the MCU. Nuff said. 4. War Machine, Winter Soldier/White Wolf and Falcon buddy cop/road trip movie. Let's let the supporting guys have their time in the sun, away from the main heroes. |
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Post by Iakus on May 9, 2018 3:46:37 GMT
So...thinking long-term here, what movies would you like to see happen after Avengers 4? My wishlist: 1. Iron Man 5, complete with Peter Parker in a supporting role, the REAL Mandarin as the villain and Tony ending up broken enough physically that being in the suit is no longer an option. Never, ever, ever getting back in that suit again. Give him a cane or something. And maybe Have Morgan Stark, the future son hinted at in Infinity War, take over the Iron Man identity and ACTUALLY be his dad's bodyguard like in the comics! 2. Thor 4, where Thor begins to lose his powers and become similar to his banished self from the first movie. It has something to do with the loss of Asgard in Ragnorok. All sorts of stuff can happen in the middle of the movie, but it ends with Thor remaking Mjolnr, and speaking like his father did in the first film, "Whosoever holds this hammer, if 'they' be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor". He puts the hammer down one last time and walks off into the sunset and reconciled with Jane. Edit: And speaking of Jane, have her get to space somehow. Let the astrophysicist be out in the stars. Maybe meet the Guardians and stuff. 3. Fantastic 4 in the MCU. Nuff said. 4. War Machine, Winter Soldier/White Wolf and Falcon buddy cop/road trip movie. Let's let the supporting guys have their time in the sun, away from the main heroes. 1) A Hawkeye and/or Black Widow movie. Something about their adventures as SHIELD agents. Perhaps that "Budapest" incident that got mentioned in the first Avengers movie? 2) Hulk vs Wolverine story 3) An MCU movie with Namor as the antagonist. An invasion from Atlantis! 4) Avengers 5: House of M 5) War Machine solo movie. |
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Post by Iakus on May 9, 2018 3:49:53 GMT
Now that I think about it, since Planet Hulk has already been raped into Thor: Ragnarok, they won't be able to do an adaptation of World War Hulk (straight up one of the best Marvel stories ever for my money) without totally bastardizing the buildup. Hulk becomes the king of Sakaar after deposing the Red King (not the Grandmaster, why the movie replaced the Red King with the Grandmaster, I will never know, that change was entirely pointless) and takes a wife and has a kid with her, becoming beloved by the people of Sakaar. A massive planet-busting explosion goes off and kills a massive amount of people on Sakaar, including Hulk's wife and (assumed) his son, causing him to fly into an even-stronger-than-usual rage, take the Warbound and the survivors of Sakaar, and bring them to Earth to take revenge on the Illuminati (in the Marvel continuity being Reed Richards, Tony Stark, Doctor Strange, Namor the Submariner, Black Bolt, and Charles Xavier, and the ones who sent him to Sakaar in the first place), believing them to be the ones who caused the explosion. Hulk and co. land in NYC and announce to everyone that they have 24 hours to evacuate and for Tony, Strange, Black Bolt, and Reed to show up so that Hulk can fight them. Hulk beats the everliving shit out of all of them one by one and powers up to possibly his strongest form, Worldbreaker Hulk, but refuses to kill any of them, instead choosing to tarnish their reputation by broadcasting the message that they left for him when they shot him into space, which actually manages to turn a good portion of the human population against them. They wouldn't even need to make it a Hulk solo titled film, it can be something more akin to Captain America: Civil War, where it's more like an Avengers movie just with a single character's name in the title. Make it an Iron Man movie and make Tony the figurehead for the Illuminati (since he is in the comics anyway). Of course, Namor would need to be introduced at some point before this, but that wouldn't be a problem since Marvel and Disney do own the movie rights for him. They could have replaced Xavier and Reed with Black Panther (who worked with the Illuminati but never officially joined them in the comics) and did some mild re-writing to make the Hulk's motivation fit better into the movie continuity. The twist at the end of the story would probably need to be re-worked since it wouldn't really fit into the MCU continuity. The Sentry is an important figure in the book too, but since the Sentry will most likely never appear in the MCU, I wouldn't really be surprised if he got cut. I guess while I'm on the topic of Marvel stories that I wish would have been adapted, I'll also add in Secret Wars (big crossover and the origin of the Venom symbiote), Maximum Carnage (but Venom would be needed since he's a major player there), Demon in a Bottle (wouldn't be a big summer action movie, but it's still a quintessential Iron Man story), and Death of Captain America (the OTHER only good thing to come out of the Civil War comic, but would need some re-writing since Red Skull and Crossbones are big players in the book but are either dead or out of commission in the MCU). Death of Captain America in particular would be an excellent developmental period for Bucky and can be a passing-of-the-torch moment for the Cap mantle, like it was in the book since Bucky actually does take on the role of Captain America for a time following this story. Weren't the Sakaarans Ronan's goons in Guardians of the Galaxy? |
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Post by colfoley on May 9, 2018 4:05:50 GMT
I really think the X-men and maybe F4 could become the tent poles of phase 4. Though I would love an Iron Man 4 to give Tony a proper sendoff.
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Post by o Ventus on May 9, 2018 4:44:13 GMT
Now that I think about it, since Planet Hulk has already been raped into Thor: Ragnarok, they won't be able to do an adaptation of World War Hulk (straight up one of the best Marvel stories ever for my money) without totally bastardizing the buildup. Hulk becomes the king of Sakaar after deposing the Red King (not the Grandmaster, why the movie replaced the Red King with the Grandmaster, I will never know, that change was entirely pointless) and takes a wife and has a kid with her, becoming beloved by the people of Sakaar. A massive planet-busting explosion goes off and kills a massive amount of people on Sakaar, including Hulk's wife and (assumed) his son, causing him to fly into an even-stronger-than-usual rage, take the Warbound and the survivors of Sakaar, and bring them to Earth to take revenge on the Illuminati (in the Marvel continuity being Reed Richards, Tony Stark, Doctor Strange, Namor the Submariner, Black Bolt, and Charles Xavier, and the ones who sent him to Sakaar in the first place), believing them to be the ones who caused the explosion. Hulk and co. land in NYC and announce to everyone that they have 24 hours to evacuate and for Tony, Strange, Black Bolt, and Reed to show up so that Hulk can fight them. Hulk beats the everliving shit out of all of them one by one and powers up to possibly his strongest form, Worldbreaker Hulk, but refuses to kill any of them, instead choosing to tarnish their reputation by broadcasting the message that they left for him when they shot him into space, which actually manages to turn a good portion of the human population against them. They wouldn't even need to make it a Hulk solo titled film, it can be something more akin to Captain America: Civil War, where it's more like an Avengers movie just with a single character's name in the title. Make it an Iron Man movie and make Tony the figurehead for the Illuminati (since he is in the comics anyway). Of course, Namor would need to be introduced at some point before this, but that wouldn't be a problem since Marvel and Disney do own the movie rights for him. They could have replaced Xavier and Reed with Black Panther (who worked with the Illuminati but never officially joined them in the comics) and did some mild re-writing to make the Hulk's motivation fit better into the movie continuity. The twist at the end of the story would probably need to be re-worked since it wouldn't really fit into the MCU continuity. The Sentry is an important figure in the book too, but since the Sentry will most likely never appear in the MCU, I wouldn't really be surprised if he got cut. I guess while I'm on the topic of Marvel stories that I wish would have been adapted, I'll also add in Secret Wars (big crossover and the origin of the Venom symbiote), Maximum Carnage (but Venom would be needed since he's a major player there), Demon in a Bottle (wouldn't be a big summer action movie, but it's still a quintessential Iron Man story), and Death of Captain America (the OTHER only good thing to come out of the Civil War comic, but would need some re-writing since Red Skull and Crossbones are big players in the book but are either dead or out of commission in the MCU). Death of Captain America in particular would be an excellent developmental period for Bucky and can be a passing-of-the-torch moment for the Cap mantle, like it was in the book since Bucky actually does take on the role of Captain America for a time following this story. Weren't the Sakaarans Ronan's goons in Guardians of the Galaxy? Ronan had a bunch of different races working for him in the movie (which doesn’t make a whole ton of sense given he is a Kree supremacist in the movie, but whatever), at least one of which is Sakaaran, yeah. |
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Post by colfoley on May 9, 2018 7:51:57 GMT
As much as this may have pissed off my fiancee...
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Post by CrutchCricket on May 9, 2018 13:31:37 GMT
Nothing suggests that that is actually Bill, as opposed to any random Korbinite. Like how Korg was originally the Kronan that Thor battles in The Dark World, but oh wait no Korg is in Ragnarok instead and that other Kronan is just some other random Kronan who happens to look exactly like Korg.wat  They look nothing alike. What are you, space racist? In all seriousness, putting in a Korbinite that's specifically not Beta Ray Bill is pretty retarded, though even confirming his race is one step closer than we would've otherwise been. But, if this article is to be believed there were plans to have him in the flesh at one point: comicbook.com/marvel/2017/11/04/beta-ray-bill-thor-ragnarok/Hela becoming Lady Death would be an astronomical leap in power, like going from a hand grenade to an atomic bomb. Hela is, for all intents and purposes, an extremely powerful alien, who, while powerful, is still “mortal” in the sense that she can be killed. Lady Death is the very abstract concept of “death” itself, who spans the universe and is one of a very small handful of entities in all of existence who cannot ever be destroyed no matter how hard you try. Again I wasn't suggesting she literally become Death. But I could see her and Thanos working together in the MCU as a nod to that. Can we at least all agree that Doug's still "probably" dead?  (I say "probably", since Korg hasn't exactly the best track record when it comes to prematurely declaring people dead) Although if Doug gets brought back to life in Avengers 4, that would be one epic brick-joke. Well, if you're talking about Old Doug then yes. New Doug is still alive  2. Thor 4, where Thor begins to lose his powers and become similar to his banished self from the first movie. It has something to do with the loss of Asgard in Ragnorok. All sorts of stuff can happen in the middle of the movie, but it ends with Thor remaking Mjolnr, and speaking like his father did in the first film, "Whosoever holds this hammer, if 'they' be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor". He puts the hammer down one last time and walks off into the sunset and reconciled with Jane. Edit: And speaking of Jane, have her get to space somehow. Let the astrophysicist be out in the stars. Maybe meet the Guardians and stuff.  FemThor is the worst piece of shit ever put to inks and I thank New Zealand every day that this shit got smacked down hard in Ragnarok A little disappointed they backtracked this in Infinity War, but a case could be made for its necessity. Besides, MCU Stormbreaker feels like a Kings's weapon. If there should be anything to Thor 4, it should be Thor rebuilding Asgard, and while it's clear it's a new iteration, it's also a return to glory. Otherwise, what I want to see more than anything else is this beautiful bastard:  Whether it's a "Fox Secret project" or MCU (preferably the latter), I needs me my Silver Surver. |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 9, 2018 13:33:23 GMT
So...thinking long-term here, what movies would you like to see happen after Avengers 4? My wishlist: 1. Iron Man 5, complete with Peter Parker in a supporting role, the REAL Mandarin as the villain and Tony ending up broken enough physically that being in the suit is no longer an option. Never, ever, ever getting back in that suit again. Give him a cane or something. And maybe Have Morgan Stark, the future son hinted at in Infinity War, take over the Iron Man identity and ACTUALLY be his dad's bodyguard like in the comics! 2. Thor 4, where Thor begins to lose his powers and become similar to his banished self from the first movie. It has something to do with the loss of Asgard in Ragnorok. All sorts of stuff can happen in the middle of the movie, but it ends with Thor remaking Mjolnr, and speaking like his father did in the first film, "Whosoever holds this hammer, if 'they' be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor". He puts the hammer down one last time and walks off into the sunset and reconciled with Jane. Edit: And speaking of Jane, have her get to space somehow. Let the astrophysicist be out in the stars. Maybe meet the Guardians and stuff. 3. Fantastic 4 in the MCU. Nuff said. 4. War Machine, Winter Soldier/White Wolf and Falcon buddy cop/road trip movie. Let's let the supporting guys have their time in the sun, away from the main heroes. 1) A Hawkeye and/or Black Widow movie. Something about their adventures as SHIELD agents. Perhaps that "Budapest" incident that got mentioned in the first Avengers movie? 2) Hulk vs Wolverine story 3) An MCU movie with Namor as the antagonist. An invasion from Atlantis! 4) Avengers 5: House of M 5) War Machine solo movie. Hulk and Wolverine are tricky, because the Disney deal with Fox could possibly fall out if Comcast wins the bid, and Universal's distribution rights to the Hulk franchise leaves Banner in perpetual secondary character mode. Apparently, Namor is also sketchy due to Universal. I wish Universal and Sony would just give it up and let Disney/Marvel take it all so they can integrate them properly into the MCU. It's not like they'll ever do anything remotely good with it. I feel like even if Disney wins the bid for Fox, they'll probably keep most of the X-Men stuff separate. |
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Post by o Ventus on May 9, 2018 16:57:45 GMT
Nothing suggests that that is actually Bill, as opposed to any random Korbinite. Like how Korg was originally the Kronan that Thor battles in The Dark World, but oh wait no Korg is in Ragnarok instead and that other Kronan is just some other random Kronan who happens to look exactly like Korg.wat They look nothing alike. What are you, space racist? ][be]In all seriousness, putting in a Korbinite that's specifically not Beta Ray Bill is pretty retarded, though even confirming his race is one step closer than we would've otherwise been. But, if this article is to be believed there were plans to have him in the flesh at one point: comicbook.com/marvel/2017/11/04/beta-ray-bill-thor-ragnarok/Plans at one point, yeah. By “looks like Korg”, I meant that the now-nameless-Kronan is a straight mirror image of Korg’s Planet Hulk appearance, down to his body shape, clothing, and skin (?) color. |
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 9, 2018 17:05:12 GMT
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Post by KaiserShep on May 9, 2018 17:23:51 GMT
This tweet is amazing.  I think She Hulk killed me. Drax would approve of ???. He can finally perfect his stealth skills. |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 9, 2018 17:32:57 GMT
wat They look nothing alike. What are you, space racist? ][be]In all seriousness, putting in a Korbinite that's specifically not Beta Ray Bill is pretty retarded, though even confirming his race is one step closer than we would've otherwise been. But, if this article is to be believed there were plans to have him in the flesh at one point: comicbook.com/marvel/2017/11/04/beta-ray-bill-thor-ragnarok/Plans at one point, yeah. By “looks like Korg”, I meant that the now-nameless-Kronan is a straight mirror image of Korg’s Planet Hulk appearance, down to his body shape, clothing, and skin (?) color. The heads certainly look different though. As for skin color....I mean......they're rocks. I guess one should've looked more like limestone, but that'd be whitewashing the kronan. Also that kronan in TDW was huge. Perhaps this was Korg's mom's boyfriend, which he hates. Hey man, thanks for dealing with my mum's boyfriend. |
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Post by Iakus on May 9, 2018 18:51:07 GMT
comicbook.com/marvel/2017/11/04/beta-ray-bill-thor-ragnarok/Hela becoming Lady Death would be an astronomical leap in power, like going from a hand grenade to an atomic bomb. Hela is, for all intents and purposes, an extremely powerful alien, who, while powerful, is still “mortal” in the sense that she can be killed. Lady Death is the very abstract concept of “death” itself, who spans the universe and is one of a very small handful of entities in all of existence who cannot ever be destroyed no matter how hard you try. Again I wasn't suggesting she literally become Death. But I could see her and Thanos working together in the MCU as a nod to that. Doesn't the Cancerverse indicate that Lady Death CAN be killed. But that doing so would be a Very Bad Thing for the universe? |
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Post by colfoley on May 10, 2018 1:23:46 GMT
Normally I am a big fan of Screen prism but this video is...actually a little insulting. I mean did they actually watch the movie? One of the heroes of the day was white for crying out loud.
Now I know some of the themes they brought up are actually in the movie. A large part of Black Panthers success is related to how much members of the black community now have a hero to relate to.and the movie does have a afro futurist vibe to it.
But at the end of the day the movie does not really portray the Wakandans as better than anyone else. Yes in the movie the actions of the United States did create Killmonger...but then so did T'Challa's father. Yes claw did steel vibranium but only with the help of the locals. Everyone made mistakes and everyone had something heroic about them.
Which wouldn't be so bad but they seem to miss the central point of the movie to do so. They seem to advocate the movie says that black people are special snow flakes, but the philosophy of the movie's protagonist (and good guy) was that black people should not rule and can be just as falible as anyone else, wanting to share and give a hand up to people, not rule over them beningly or not. Much like MLK vs. Malcolm X, which ironically enough they also reference. |
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Post by masterwarderz on May 10, 2018 1:59:50 GMT
Normally I am a big fan of Screen prism but this video is...actually a little insulting. But at the end of the day the movie does not really portray the Wakandans as better than anyone else. I know that for a fact(We agree for once!), a bunch of those fictional Africans grunt and growl like fucking Gorillas. That is not to my eye, a superior strain of...erm any particular race, in the modern age. Not to mention the fact, they are still a feudalistic tribal dictatorship led literally by the strongest member of the tribe. ._. But yeah, that scene where they grunt and hoot at the CIA guy to my eye was confirmation that, those ignorant savages aren't superior to anyone. |
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Post by o Ventus on May 10, 2018 2:38:02 GMT
Doesn't the Cancerverse indicate that Lady Death CAN be killed. But that doing so would be a Very Bad Thing for the universe? The only things that can conceivably harm Lady Death would be the Heart of the Universe (which I don’t think is actually canon anymore) and the Ultimate Nullifier, which can destroy or create literally anything that exists or does not exist and can affect anything that isn’t the Living Tribunal or The One Above All (aka the writers). At least, I would assume that the LT wouldn’t be affected by the Nullifier, the LT is a multiversal being and not constrained by the same physics that dictate any single universe and is generally the second most powerful entity in all of Marvel, behind TOAA. Then again the Nullifier is inconsistent; sometimes it’s a universal power, sometimes it’s multiversal. Hell, one time Galactus used it to erase an entire timeline from existence and create a new *multiverse* with it. Death in the Cancerverse isn’t dead herself, she was imprisoned by the Many Angled Ones, with her abilities stripped away. The end effect was the same though, being that nobody could die. |
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 10, 2018 12:05:08 GMT
Normally I am a big fan of Screen prism but this video is...actually a little insulting. I mean did they actually watch the movie? One of the heroes of the day was white for crying out loud.
Now I know some of the themes they brought up are actually in the movie. A large part of Black Panthers success is related to how much members of the black community now have a hero to relate to.and the movie does have a afro futurist vibe to it.
But at the end of the day the movie does not really portray the Wakandans as better than anyone else. Yes in the movie the actions of the United States did create Killmonger...but then so did T'Challa's father. Yes claw did steel vibranium but only with the help of the locals. Everyone made mistakes and everyone had something heroic about them.
Which wouldn't be so bad but they seem to miss the central point of the movie to do so. They seem to advocate the movie says that black people are special snow flakes, but the philosophy of the movie's protagonist (and good guy) was that black people should not rule and can be just as falible as anyone else, wanting to share and give a hand up to people, not rule over them beningly or not. Much like MLK vs. Malcolm X, which ironically enough they also reference. How did Howard Stark get vibranium in the first place to make Cap's shield? He said he just got enough to make the shield, but still. |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 10, 2018 17:54:58 GMT
Normally I am a big fan of Screen prism but this video is...actually a little insulting. I mean did they actually watch the movie? One of the heroes of the day was white for crying out loud.
Now I know some of the themes they brought up are actually in the movie. A large part of Black Panthers success is related to how much members of the black community now have a hero to relate to.and the movie does have a afro futurist vibe to it.
But at the end of the day the movie does not really portray the Wakandans as better than anyone else. Yes in the movie the actions of the United States did create Killmonger...but then so did T'Challa's father. Yes claw did steel vibranium but only with the help of the locals. Everyone made mistakes and everyone had something heroic about them.
Which wouldn't be so bad but they seem to miss the central point of the movie to do so. They seem to advocate the movie says that black people are special snow flakes, but the philosophy of the movie's protagonist (and good guy) was that black people should not rule and can be just as falible as anyone else, wanting to share and give a hand up to people, not rule over them beningly or not. Much like MLK vs. Malcolm X, which ironically enough they also reference. How did Howard Stark get vibranium in the first place to make Cap's shield? He said he just got enough to make the shield, but still.  Ulysses Klaue stole it from Wakanda and sold it to Stark. |
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 10, 2018 18:14:58 GMT
How did Howard Stark get vibranium in the first place to make Cap's shield? He said he just got enough to make the shield, but still. Ulysses Klaue stole it from Wakanda and sold it to Stark. Klaue is... that old? |
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Post by Iakus on May 10, 2018 18:20:52 GMT
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