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Currently watching Raised by Wolves, not sure how I'd rate it or my opinion but to say I am enjoying it and it's intriguing. Up to episode 9 waiting for the last 3 episodes to become available, well assume there are 3 more. I quite enjoy this show myself, though a couple of the kids make me want humanity to die, like Campion and the kid with the fauxhawk.
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Post by dazk on Sept 29, 2020 0:17:09 GMT
Currently watching Raised by Wolves, not sure how I'd rate it or my opinion but to say I am enjoying it and it's intriguing. Up to episode 9 waiting for the last 3 episodes to become available, well assume there are 3 more. I quite enjoy this show myself, though a couple of the kids make me want humanity to die, like Campion and the kid with the fauxhawk. yeah Campion truly is painful, the other kid is pretty dreadful as well but they are well written in terms of the part they play in the social dynamic they are in. There is always one of each of that type of kid in any large group of kids. I am very keen to see where it goes and what is manipulating Marcus and others. Do you find the voice audio quite hard to hear during the show? I am watching it with my 18 year old son and even he has trouble making out what they say sometimes and we have had to rewind and turn it up? What episode are you up to?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Sept 29, 2020 22:53:39 GMT
Caught up with S2E6 of The Boys...
That hospital riot/breakout looks like the stuff of nightmares.
The reveal of Stormfront (not that she old, we knew that) was...interesting. Makes me wonder if there was a big schism between Vought (the man) and the company that bears his name, given that he'd nailed (in the 1930s) what they've apparently been searching decades for.
Disclaimer: I haven't read the comics, so maybe it's all explained there?
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Sept 29, 2020 23:06:51 GMT
There's a new doc on Netflix about Challenger. I've seen programmes about it before but this one is so much more interesting.
For once they're giving focus to the other astronauts who died, not just the civilian Christa, and showing tonnes of archive footage about the shuttle program.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Oct 1, 2020 12:23:00 GMT
I'm going backwards for TV. I dropped House midway S3 and went to CSI LV. There's no S1 (I was looking to starting with S1), only S11 until the finale so I started with that. Now in S12 and Catherine Willows joined the FBI after 12 eps. I definitely miss Grissom and now I'm going to miss Catherine all over again. *sigh* Her replacement's ok but she's not Marg Helgenberger / Catherine Willows.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 2, 2020 20:38:32 GMT
Finished The Witcher season 1 the other day. Background info: I am a massive fan of the games. Had Witcher 1 at release, played it probably about 3 times. Finished Witcher 2 twice and did 2 and a half playthroughs of Witcher 3 (one of witch was with all DLCs and took me about 150 hours because I am a completionist). However, for some reason I only started to read the books last week 9at the same time I started the tv show) and am still on the first set of short stories (aka the last wish). So I do know the general background form what people tell us about it in the games (e.g. Ciri's backstory is somewhat summarized by a tavern owner in Witcher 1 and the Strigga short story is the intro, etc.) but I don't have the direct comparison to the later novels yet. Coming from that vantage point, I gotta say I really liked the series. I think it works super well as somewhat of a prequel/origin story to the games. Yes, not every thing fits perfectly, Ciri is a little old in the series and there is a lot of other small details but in general, I think just the style of things fit remarkably well. Henry Cavill does an outstanding job as Geralt. He brings the exact right amounts of stoicism with occasional outbursts that I know and love from from the games. Also visually, I can definitely get behind this being the same character, sure, the face is different but the posture, movement and the look of his equipment and clothing just hits it perfectly. Even his voice actually is fairly close to Doug Cockle from the games. Brilliant. The same goes for Yen, She matches her counterpart in Witcher 3 very well and I can easily pretend this is just the same person. Also, seeing her backstory was quite gratifying. I was planning to do another Triss romance on my current half-finished playthrough but having seen the backstory here (or at least the beginnings of it) not choosing Yen simply doesn't feel right anymore. Young Dandelion was also a delight to me. He brings some very necessary humor o the show and I have to admit, I found his songs to be quite catchy (especially the "Valley of Plenty" one. here, it really helps that the series takes place quite a while before the games, so you can chalk up any differences between the characters to some development in between. Triss is a bit different both visually and in character from the games but that's ok. After all, she is a mage and I can sort of see how she might have changed here appearance (although yes, the series makes that transformation out to be a little more ... horrifying than I would have thought, maybe afterwards they can still do it magically or something. It's ok, they couldn't make everything exactly the same after all. As for other complaints that people had when the trailers came out last year, like the Nilfgardian armor, I didn't mind at all, I thought visually the show was great (well, the golden Dragon was a little underwhelming I have to admit but otherwise, it was pretty good). The one thing I understand is that people complained that the jumbled time lines were very confusing. I didn't have a problem with it but I think that's because I already had a very good understanding of most of the characters and their relationships to another, not to mention how mages and witchers basically don't age like normal people (they really should have hammered down that fact a little more I think). So yea, for someone who is really coming into this without any preconceptions about what's going on and who's who, I can see how that story telling structure might have been very confusing. Over all, I'd say it was very well done, can't wait for season 2. 9/10 coins tossed to our Witcher. You may or my not find your opinion of the TV show changed for the worse after reading the novels. *g* Even knowing why they felt they had to change a lot of details it was still frustrating for me. Brokilon got so butchered... my gawd. The most important short story a total mess. You're righty they based TV Geralt on game Geralt. Which I liked for the most part. But neither of the two do book Geralt justice. As much as I love W3 myself, it's not overly faithful to the characters. Or rather, with background knowledge Geralt "feels" like book Geralt if you pick the appropriate dialogue choices but judging by comments from gamers who never read the novels, what's actually on screen is very different. If you know what I mean? You can play the games in a way that is totally contrary to his book personality. Which is fine for an RPG. But the leeway creates this weird disconnect between how some players see Geralt and what he's like in the novels. Let me know about your reading experience!
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Post by AnDromedary on Oct 2, 2020 21:16:38 GMT
You may or my not find your opinion of the TV show changed for the worse after reading the novels. *g* Even knowing why they felt they had to change a lot of details it was still frustrating for me. Brokilon got so butchered... my gawd. The most important short story a total mess. You're righty they based TV Geralt on game Geralt. Which I liked for the most part. But neither of the two do book Geralt justice. As much as I love W3 myself, it's not overly faithful to the characters. Or rather, with background knowledge Geralt "feels" like book Geralt if you pick the appropriate dialogue choices but judging by comments from gamers who never read the novels, what's actually on screen is very different. If you know what I mean? You can play the games in a way that is totally contrary to his book personality. Which is fine for an RPG. But the leeway creates this weird disconnect between how some players see Geralt and what he's like in the novels. Let me know about your reading experience! I am curious. I think it might be different if you played the games/watched the series first and then read the books but we'll see. I can already see how game Geralt is not particularly faithful to book Geralt though. Just yesterday, I did a few more quests on my current (third) Witcher 3 playthrough and I came across a moment where I wanted to play Geralt close to what I learned about him thus far in the books but it wasn't possible. Here is what happened: In an allay between the houses just south of Novigrad, I came upon a group of elves harassing a human. The elves accused the human of selling tainted fisstech to their children, from which the children died. They were about to lynch him for this crime. The human insisted that he never did such a thing and on further inquiry, the elves admitted that they had searched him already and had found no fisstech on him but they said that he had already just sold it all. Now, you had two dialogue option: 1. You cannot just condemn this man for a crime without any proof. (which will obviously lead to you killing the elves in defense of the human) 2. Do with him as wish. Now, in the short stories of "The Last Wish" it is very clear that Gerald tries not to interfere in such affairs. He doesn't really believe in a lesser evil and hie tries his best not to get entangled in these kinds of affairs. The whole "The Lesser Evil" short story with Renfri drives this point home to no end and also, Geralt's accounts of his first encounter with a "monster" (aka, a rapist) shortly after he left Kaer Morhen for the first time also makes the same point. He doesn't get involved unless there is a real monster to deal with, struggles between sentients (humans, elves, dwarfs, etc.), he avoids like the plague. So, I chose option 2 because I figured that's what book Geralt would do, basically shrugging and say "Do as you wish, doesn't involve me.". But when I clicked the option, Geralt's actual line was "Selling fisstech to children is wrong. This man deserves to die." Then he watches the elves slaughter the dude and the elves thank Geralt for siding with them afterwards. That was already a situation where I realized, maybe it doesn't quite fit.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 3, 2020 9:00:23 GMT
I can already see how game Geralt is not particularly faithful to book Geralt though. Just yesterday, I did a few more quests on my current (third) Witcher 3 playthrough and I came across a moment where I wanted to play Geralt close to what I learned about him thus far in the books but it wasn't possible. Here is what happened: In an allay between the houses just south of Novigrad, I came upon a group of elves harassing a human. The elves accused the human of selling tainted fisstech to their children, from which the children died. They were about to lynch him for this crime. The human insisted that he never did such a thing and on further inquiry, the elves admitted that they had searched him already and had found no fisstech on him but they said that he had already just sold it all. Now, you had two dialogue option: 1. You cannot just condemn this man for a crime without any proof. (which will obviously lead to you killing the elves in defense of the human) 2. Do with him as wish. Now, in the short stories of "The Last Wish" it is very clear that Gerald tries not to interfere in such affairs. He doesn't really believe in a lesser evil and hie tries his best not to get entangled in these kinds of affairs. The whole "The Lesser Evil" short story with Renfri drives this point home to no end and also, Geralt's accounts of his first encounter with a "monster" (aka, a rapist) shortly after he left Kaer Morhen for the first time also makes the same point. He doesn't get involved unless there is a real monster to deal with, struggles between sentients (humans, elves, dwarfs, etc.), he avoids like the plague. So, I chose option 2 because I figured that's what book Geralt would do, basically shrugging and say "Do as you wish, doesn't involve me.". But when I clicked the option, Geralt's actual line was "Selling fisstech to children is wrong. This man deserves to die." Then he watches the elves slaughter the dude and the elves thank Geralt for siding with them afterwards. That was already a situation where I realized, maybe it doesn't quite fit. Yes. However, it's more complicated than that, you'll see. Geralt doesn't WANT to get involved because he knows the outcome is going to be ugly either way. And worse, he'll get blamed in the end, most likely. BUT his strong morality compels him to intervene all the time. He's in constant conflict with himself. He's a disillusioned idealist who has learned that helping people is pointless most of the time because most people are awful. So in that particular case he'd probably stay clear unless he knew for certain somebody was being set up. He'll do what's right though if a truly innocent person is about to get butchered for fun. He'll not watch somebody drown babies or something and not interfere. Of course a videogame needs quests. Overall I thought most of them were more or less in line with the general idea of the characters. The biggest failure of W3 was Yennefer. The TV show gets her right (her backstory is NOT in the novels in so much detail though btw), the game ignored her entire character development... If the TV show already made you think Yen is the only woman for Geralt, you'll love the books. It's an epic complicated love story. The most surprising thing about the novels to me was how much I disliked Triss! She is a very different character. Very annoying and gullible. I'm curious how the TV show will proceed from there. She was a heroine at Sodden Hill but that doesn't change her behavior in the future...
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Post by Noxluxe on Oct 3, 2020 15:35:04 GMT
Am currently re-watching the first season of Punisher on Netflix. Hope some other network picks it up soon. Jon Bernthal is too amazing in that role for it to be over already. Yes. However, it's more complicated than that, you'll see. Geralt doesn't WANT to get involved because he knows the outcome is going to be ugly either way. And worse, he'll get blamed in the end, most likely. BUT his strong morality compels him to intervene all the time. He's in constant conflict with himself. He's a disillusioned idealist who has learned that helping people is pointless most of the time because most people are awful. So in that particular case he'd probably stay clear unless he knew for certain somebody was being set up. He'll do what's right though if a truly innocent person is about to get butchered for fun. He'll not watch somebody drown babies or something and not interfere. Of course a videogame needs quests. Overall I thought most of them were more or less in line with the general idea of the characters. The biggest failure of W3 was Yennefer. The TV show gets her right (her backstory is NOT in the novels in so much detail though btw), the game ignored her entire character development... If the TV show already made you think Yen is the only woman for Geralt, you'll love the books. It's an epic complicated love story. The most surprising thing about the novels to me was how much I disliked Triss! She is a very different character. Very annoying and gullible. I'm curious how the TV show will proceed from there. She was a heroine at Sodden Hill but that doesn't change her behavior in the future... Agreed, at least on the first paragraph. Book Geralt tries very hard to avoid getting put in positions where he has to make difficult choices, because he's just too soft-hearted to do the 'smart' thing and leave well enough alone when the chips are down. Which invariably ends in a bloodbath. Because he's fundamentally just unable to stand by and watch people suffer. His 'Witcher's Code of Neutrality' is just an excuse to avoid getting into sticky and complicated situations in the first place. In my estimation, Book Geralt in that particular scenario would try to walk away from the lynching, turn right around and come back, kill the elves when they refused to let up, and then brow-beat himself for months afterwards when it turned out they were right about the man, promising himself never to interfere like that again. And then he'd do the exact same thing all over again next time he ran into a similar situation, because he can't stop himself from trying to be a goody-two-shoes. That said, if you want to be really consistent then Game Geralt is technically not entirely Book Geralt at all. Rather, he's a completely new Geralt who has his own formative experiences and forms his own philosophies in the first two games while suffering from amnesia, who then goes on to amalgamate those lessons and experiences into Book Geralt when he regains his old memories. Meaning that Game Geralt can, in fact, be perfectly capable of leaving innocents to suffer if it isn't his business, having finally learned that lesson during his amnesia. Couldn't disagree more with the idea that Show Yennefer trumps W3 Yennefer though. Hell no. The show does her a huge disservice by turning her into a selfish, volatile teenage girl, while the games at least somewhat do her justice. Which isn't to say that she comes out of the books smelling like a spring rose either, frankly. And Triss undeniably makes some mistakes in the books too, but I still really enjoy her.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 3, 2020 16:41:22 GMT
Couldn't disagree more with the idea that Show Yennefer trumps W3 Yennefer though. Hell no. The show does her a huge disservice by turning her into a selfish, volatile teenage girl, while the games at least somewhat do her justice. Which isn't to say that she comes out of the books smelling like a spring rose either, frankly. And Triss undeniably makes some mistakes in the books too, but I still really enjoy her. Good point about Geralt's amnesia. It's a handy excuse for behavior not 100% in line with the novels. You can't really compare young Yen to mommy Yen in the game. While I would argue that CDPR totally ignored her character development which Ciri kicked off and went with bitch!Yen from when she first got involved with Geralt, it's still a totally different situation. Imo the show did a very good job translating Yen's central conflict and extending the bits we get about her past into a coherent backstory. Yen is pretty damn bitchy and awful to Geralt in the novels too until Ciri melts her icy exterior and finally gives her motherhood. Makes perfect sense to me that Yen got high on power and admiration for a while after all the abuse and ridicule as a kid. Even in the books Yen loves to be desired. (Let's be honest, all women do. ) And she's almost jealous that Ciri is so pretty naturally. The creepy orgy totally happened. I had forgotten but it's implied. She sleeps around on Geralt, doesn't really get along with Dandelion, and isn't very friendly with most people for a long time. Yen was a bitter bitter woman. It's just that we don't get to spend that much time with bitch!Yen in the novels. We see her change fairly quickly. The TV show fills the blanks on what she was like before she found her family and her purpose in a way that I personally buy. The only thing that I didn't like was the whole infertility business as a choice. I prefer the book version, I find it more tragic even though technically it's not I suppose. Not a fan of crying about a choice later regretted. I can't really feel the same level of sympathy somehow... How did you picture her as a young sorceress? What did you think was totally off? That said, I liked Yen's appearance a lot more in the game, her voice too. The TV actress does a wonderful job though portraying this complex woman's pain. I liked Yen's scenes the best actually, as mentioned before in the Netflix thread.
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Post by Noxluxe on Oct 3, 2020 19:06:59 GMT
Good point about Geralt's amnesia. It's a handy excuse for behavior not 100% in line with the novels. You can't really compare young Yen to mommy Yen in the game. While I would argue that CDPR totally ignored her character development which Ciri kicked off and went with bitch!Yen from when she first got involved with Geralt, it's still a totally different situation. Imo the show did a very good job translating Yen's central conflict and extending the bits we get about her past into a coherent backstory. Yen is pretty damn bitchy and awful to Geralt in the novels too until Ciri melts her icy exterior and finally gives her motherhood. Makes perfect sense to me that Yen got high on power and admiration for a while after all the abuse and ridicule as a kid. Even in the books Yen loves to be desired. (Let's be honest, all women do. ) And she's almost jealous that Ciri is so pretty naturally. The creepy orgy totally happened. I had forgotten but it's implied. She sleeps around on Geralt, doesn't really get along with Dandelion, and isn't very friendly with most people for a long time. Yen was a bitter bitter woman. It's just that we don't get to spend that much time with bitch!Yen in the novels. We see her change fairly quickly. The TV show fills the blanks on what she was like before she found her family and her purpose in a way that I personally buy. The only thing that I didn't like was the whole infertility business as a choice. I prefer the book version, I find it more tragic even though technically it's not I suppose. Not a fan of crying about a choice later regretted. I can't really feel the same level of sympathy somehow... How did you picture her as a young sorceress? What did you think was totally off? That said, I liked Yen's appearance a lot more in the game, her voice too. The TV actress does a wonderful job though portraying this complex woman's pain. I liked Yen's scenes the best actually, as mentioned before in the Netflix thread. My problem isn't so much that 'that's how she was when she was young', it's that her appearances on the show span roughly 100 years of her life, and by the time her timeline catches up with Geralt's and Ciri's and she's more than a century old she's still a petulant brat who takes everything personally, whines about being unfairly treated, resents authority on principle and blames others for "taking" what she herself insisted on sacrificing voluntarily. In the books she isn't that immature, she's just absolutely miserable and way smarter and more focused on her goals than everybody else, which combine to make her uniquely terrible at dealing with people's bullshit. And what makes her intimidating and powerful is her willpower, ruthlessness and razor-sharp intellect, not some hidden well of power that activates when she gets really passionate. Which is another thing. Feelings-based superpowers that the heroes just happen to activate in their most desperate hour that simply wins the battle for them is textbook deus ex machina. The Battle of Sodden had great potential for showing people with diverse powers working sensibly together to compliment and synergize their strengths against an overpowering enemy force, and Yennefer could have looked like a real badass by being the one to mastermind and administrate it, innovating and outthinking the enemy while inspiring the others with her determination in a grueling battle of attrition. Or, for that matter, by playing to her actual strengths (in the show) and using her affinity for portals to adjudicate her own mages strategically for maximum effect and minimal casualties. But no, instead they went with "Just let yourself loose, you're so much more powerful than you know!", and then she won the battle for the good guys because she's actually just that powerful. The end. Never mind that it leaves the show with a garbage theme about letting your feelings explode all over the place being a productive thing to do. Yuck. I liked her well enough until she first met with Vilgefortz, and it became clear that she wasn't actually going to grow up even after a century. That made me lose interest pretty much on the spot.
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Post by dazk on Oct 3, 2020 23:29:59 GMT
After reading all this I kind of feel glad I gave up on the books half way through the first one.
MY biggest regret was the casting of Triss, it still annoys me even having liked the show and her actress.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 4, 2020 20:43:22 GMT
The Boys S2E7...uh..."mind blown"?
They were wearing their message loud and proud, and while I personally agree with what they were selling, I'd really like shows to be a bit more subtle about it.
Really starting to wonder if how Starlight's power is dependent on electricity is going to tie in to Stormfront and defeating her and/or Homelander. Although, I see it has been renewed for at least one more season, so it seems unlikely they'd kill off blond Darth Vader before the end.
Looking forward to the finale.
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 5, 2020 15:51:38 GMT
The Boys S2E7...uh..."mind blown"? They were wearing their message loud and proud, and while I personally agree with what they were selling, I'd really like shows to be a bit more subtle about it. Really starting to wonder if how Starlight's power is dependent on electricity is going to tie in to Stormfront and defeating her and/or Homelander. Although, I see it has been renewed for at least one more season, so it seems unlikely they'd kill off blond Darth Vader before the end. Looking forward to the finale. After what happened in this episode, I imagine the whole setting will just be straight up chaos now. I guess one more season’s about all they could possibly squeeze out of that, which is fine by me. I would like to see how that electricity sapping ability plays into things. Man I look forward to seeing the literal feminazi get eliminated somehow lol
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 5, 2020 20:56:01 GMT
My problem isn't so much that 'that's how she was when she was young', it's that her appearances on the show span roughly 100 years of her life, and by the time her timeline catches up with Geralt's and Ciri's and she's more than a century old she's still a petulant brat who takes everything personally, whines about being unfairly treated, resents authority on principle and blames others for "taking" what she herself insisted on sacrificing voluntarily. In the books she isn't that immature, she's just absolutely miserable and way smarter and more focused on her goals than everybody else, which combine to make her uniquely terrible at dealing with people's bullshit. And what makes her intimidating and powerful is her willpower, ruthlessness and razor-sharp intellect, not some hidden well of power that activates when she gets really passionate. Which is another thing. Feelings-based superpowers that the heroes just happen to activate in their most desperate hour that simply wins the battle for them is textbook deus ex machina. The Battle of Sodden had great potential for showing people with diverse powers working sensibly together to compliment and synergize their strengths against an overpowering enemy force, and Yennefer could have looked like a real badass by being the one to mastermind and administrate it, innovating and outthinking the enemy while inspiring the others with her determination in a grueling battle of attrition. Or, for that matter, by playing to her actual strengths (in the show) and using her affinity for portals to adjudicate her own mages strategically for maximum effect and minimal casualties. But no, instead they went with "Just let yourself loose, you're so much more powerful than you know!", and then she won the battle for the good guys because she's actually just that powerful. The end. Never mind that it leaves the show with a garbage theme about letting your feelings explode all over the place being a productive thing to do. Yuck. I liked her well enough until she first met with Vilgefortz, and it became clear that she wasn't actually going to grow up even after a century. That made me lose interest pretty much on the spot. You're not wrong there. I didn't consider the timeline spanning a hundred years... We'll see next season if the show just made the petulant child period too long or if that version of Yennefer is supposed to be Hissrich's particular interpretation of the character. Book Yen is definitely way past the rebellious phase. She's very calm, reserved even when it comes to her feelings. She guards her true self carefully which fools most people, but not Geralt. I did like the last episode best though. You're right that unleashing her power like that was a bit lame. Now that I think about it, in the game Yen did not participate in trashing the place of Lara Dorren and looked rather annoyed that Geralt indulged Ciri's outburst. So points to CDPR there, I guess. *g* What I did like a lot though was the way Yen was almost paralyzed with fear the whole time and not really contributing much. For all her bravado she was a scared child, and I found the tender scene with Tissaia very sweet. Their relationship was well done. Even if that's not 100% book Yen, I liked the narrative from a psychological perspective. It made sense within the show. Compared to the absolute crime that was the oddly cool and barely shown relationship between Yen and Ciri in the game, I find the interpretation of Yen's "origin story" less problematic so far.
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Post by Noxluxe on Oct 6, 2020 11:28:33 GMT
The Boys S2E7...uh..."mind blown"? They were wearing their message loud and proud, and while I personally agree with what they were selling, I'd really like shows to be a bit more subtle about it. Really starting to wonder if how Starlight's power is dependent on electricity is going to tie in to Stormfront and defeating her and/or Homelander. Although, I see it has been renewed for at least one more season, so it seems unlikely they'd kill off blond Darth Vader before the end. Looking forward to the finale. Agreed. There's entertainment that wants to explore things deeply and boldly and let its audience decide exactly what to take away from it, and entertainment that knows exactly what it's trying to say and sacrifices the exploration aspect in order to make a point instead. It feels like between season 1 and 2, The Boys transitioned from one into the other. I agree with the general message too, but the hamfisted and single-minded nature of it takes away from the impact and sense of validity it might have had by trusting its audience to come to those conclusions themselves by being less openly partisan. And no offense to Americans, but as a non-American viewer it's hard not to lose interest when something that otherwise deals with universally applicable themes just descends into American political factions basically picking on each other. I first thought the white supremacy angle could be interesting and believable as a source of 'narcissistic supply' for Homelander, the exploration of which which would say more about both his character and those kinds of ideologies than any amount of depicted right-wing rallies could. But clearly the showrunners had other ideas. And yeah, they've really been pushing the Starlight - electricity thing all season. I could see them doing it just to make her feel less overpowered compared to the other protagonists than she did in the first season, but the general lack of subtlety indicates otherwise. Denethor was awesome as Billy's dad though. I could watch him brag to himself about how tough his son turned out all day long. If Lenny turns up alive, he should be played by David Wenham. You're not wrong there. I didn't consider the timeline spanning a hundred years... We'll see next season if the show just made the petulant child period too long or if that version of Yennefer is supposed to be Hissrich's particular interpretation of the character. Book Yen is definitely way past the rebellious phase. She's very calm, reserved even when it comes to her feelings. She guards her true self carefully which fools most people, but not Geralt. I did like the last episode best though. You're right that unleashing her power like that was a bit lame. Now that I think about it, in the game Yen did not participate in trashing the place of Lara Dorren and looked rather annoyed that Geralt indulged Ciri's outburst. So points to CDPR there, I guess. *g* What I did like a lot though was the way Yen was almost paralyzed with fear the whole time and not really contributing much. For all her bravado she was a scared child, and I found the tender scene with Tissaia very sweet. Their relationship was well done. Even if that's not 100% book Yen, I liked the narrative from a psychological perspective. It made sense within the show. Compared to the absolute crime that was the oddly cool and barely shown relationship between Yen and Ciri in the game, I find the interpretation of Yen's "origin story" less problematic so far. More scenes between Yennefer and Ciri would have been nice, definitely. I do find the ones we get very touching though. Yen impulsively kissing Geralt out of pure gratitude for bringing her daughter back, and her happy pride upon finding out that her little girl grew up to be beautiful are both powerful moments that stick out to me, and which made a similar kind of reunion between Kassandra and her mother in AC:Odyssey feel very lazily written in comparison. And I never saw them as frosty, just Yennefer as a fairly responsible and authoritarian parent. Which makes sense to me, considering how much motherhood means to her in and of itself. No wonder she takes it very seriously. It's also a nice contrast to Geralt's attitude. To her, the important thing is that Ciri is safe and sensible. To him, it's that she's properly prepared for the life and dangers ahead of her, which sometimes means putting yourself at risk and getting to know your limits. Very much a classic mom/dad dichotomy. As I said, I found Show!Yennefer interesting and engaging up until it turned out that she wasn't going to mature fully, which seemed like a very clear decision by the show to bank on girl power brownie points at the cost of making the character a bit pathetic. With an added bit of disorientation when she suddenly changed color. But while I dislike her writing in the last few episodes the acting certainly never felt forced. The actress did a great job portraying intense desperation, ambition and loneliness contrasted with a cool and disinterested façade. In those moments when battling the Jinn and while summoning the fire she certainly looks and sounds like someone giving everything she has, and that helps a lot.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 6, 2020 19:54:12 GMT
And yeah, they've really been pushing the Starlight - electricity thing all season. I could see them doing it just to make her feel less overpowered compared to the other protagonists than she did in the first season, but the general lack of subtlety indicates otherwise. Other than her and Lamp Lighter (who could only manipulate flame, not create it), and Doppelganger who couldn't hold one form for "too long" - do any of the other featured Supes have limitations or dependencies on their powers? I know Homelander is a 'Superman metaphor', but he doesn't appear to require sunlight (unless they said it in S1 and I missed it). Denethor was awesome as Billy's dad though. I could watch him brag to himself about how tough his son turned out all day long. If Lenny turns up alive, he should be played by David Wenham. I'm in. While we're at it, throw Cate Blanchett as his foul-mouthed ex-girlfriend. Make it a real LotR reunion.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Oct 6, 2020 20:14:03 GMT
I'm going backwards for TV. I dropped House midway S3 and went to CSI LV. There's no S1 (I was looking to starting with S1), only S11 until the finale so I started with that. Now in S12 and Catherine Willows joined the FBI after 12 eps. I definitely miss Grissom and now I'm going to miss Catherine all over again. *sigh* Her replacement's ok but she's not Marg Helgenberger / Catherine Willows. The first few seasons can't be beat. It's great up to around the time of the Miniature Killer but it kinda fades after that. The seasons with Laurence Fishburne aren't great, but then it improved with Ted Danson. I always found Catherine to be a bitch with a pole up her ass, personally
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 6, 2020 20:19:03 GMT
I always found Catherine to be a bitch with a pole up her ass,
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Post by Noxluxe on Oct 6, 2020 20:56:20 GMT
Other than her and Lamp Lighter (who could only manipulate flame, not create it), and Doppelganger who couldn't hold one form for "too long" - do any of the other featured Supes have limitations or dependencies on their powers? I know Homelander is a 'Superman metaphor', but he doesn't appear to require sunlight (unless they said it in S1 and I missed it). I'm in. While we're at it, throw Cate Blanchett as his foul-mouthed ex-girlfriend. Make it a real LotR reunion. Well, there was Translucent and his vulnerable intestines, and Homelander's inability to see through zinc (but not lead, like Superman). Maeve supposedly crushed her wrist somehow while saving a bus, so while her invulnerability shields her from machine guns it must have limitations of some kind. It's possible all the heroes are vulnerable from the inside, or it could just have been because Translucent's power specifically concerned his skin. One detail that I think is really nice is that Homelander can't leverage his full strength in mid-air, he needs to brace against the ground or another solidly rooted surface to transfer the full energy, which is an issue Superman doesn't have. In Superman's case, it's explained away as a kind of powerful close-range telekinetic control over everything he touches, rather than strict physical strength. It's always been one of those unmentioned secondary powers that he would simply have to have in order to be able to, say, catch a plane. The fact that Homelander can't do those sorts of things lend him a sense of physical realism that really appeals to me. The scene onboard the plane where he explains why he can't just fly out and carry it was a great moment showcasing that, as was Kimiko's brother being able to knock him out of the air with a train. Fun fact: The comic's Homelander is a bit of a meathead compared to the show's version. Instead of taking a moment to consider why trying to ram the plane straight would probably be disastrous, he simply does it, tearing the plane to pieces by complete accident. Hughie, upon waking up in the hospital: "Where am I?" Mother's Milk: "You are in the house of Elrond. A few more hours, and you would have been beyond our aid. But you have some strength in you, my dear hobbit."
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 7, 2020 2:17:35 GMT
It's possible all the heroes are vulnerable from the inside I wouldn't put it past the show to make that a metaphor for character versus (public) perception. They're super heroes, perfect on the outside, but underneath, they're just as fallible/vulnerable as everyone else. Just get Arya Stark in there for a big Vought Christmas staff function, but nano-bombs in the dessert.
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Post by Noxluxe on Oct 7, 2020 10:59:35 GMT
I wouldn't put it past the show to make that a metaphor for character versus (public) perception. They're super heroes, perfect on the outside, but underneath, they're just as fallible/vulnerable as everyone else. Just get Arya Stark in there for a big Vought Christmas staff function, but nano-bombs in the dessert. Yup, that'd probably work on at least a few of them. I hope it isn't that on the nose, though. Anthony Starr has mentioned that Homelander's primary weakness is his emotional fragility, and that's pretty evident from the show without it needing to be explicitly pointed out in a big "they're all actually as vulnerable as we are!" moment.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Oct 8, 2020 14:00:58 GMT
Having watched the Challenger documentary I've tried a couple more on Netflix. American Murder: The Family Next Door was fascinating in that most of it was original footage filmed by the victim, and from the body cam of the cop coming to investigate that day, and from the interrogation room. Worth a watch, but then I'd suggest googling the case to see the info the documentary left out. (There were much worse things that they didn't mention) The big surprise for me was Wild Wild Country. I clicked on it randomly, a show about an Indian cult setting up shop in Oregon didn't inspire me at all but OMG I binge watched the whole series in less than a week. It's really about politics, religion, prejudice, and how people bend the rules in the United States to try and get what they want, then spiral out of control when it doesn't work. Everything happened in the 80s so you get the full picture with all the consequences, and what happened next to all the participants. It was brilliantly told, with the story of the Oregonians clashing with the hippy sex cultists getting crazier and crazier each episode. If you wrote it ppl would say it was too far fetched, but all of this happened and the story is told by those who were there. So if it doesn't appeal to you, go try it anyway. It's a hell of a ride. And in the end I sympathised mostly with the Republican, gun wielding cowboys the most. Who knew?
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Post by dazk on Oct 8, 2020 22:42:49 GMT
Having watched the Challenger documentary I've tried a couple more on Netflix. American Murder: The Family Next Door was fascinating in that most of it was original footage filmed by the victim, and from the body cam of the cop coming to investigate that day, and from the interrogation room. Worth a watch, but then I'd suggest googling the case to see the info the documentary left out. (There were much worse things that they didn't mention) The big surprise for me was Wild Wild Country. I clicked on it randomly, a show about an Indian cult setting up shop in Oregon didn't inspire me at all but OMG I binge watched the whole series in less than a week. It's really about politics, religion, prejudice, and how people bend the rules in the United States to try and get what they want, then spiral out of control when it doesn't work. Everything happened in the 80s so you get the full picture with all the consequences, and what happened next to all the participants. It was brilliantly told, with the story of the Oregonians clashing with the hippy sex cultists getting crazier and crazier each episode. If you wrote it ppl would say it was too far fetched, but all of this happened and the story is told by those who were there. So if it doesn't appeal to you, go try it anyway. It's a hell of a ride. And in the end I sympathised mostly with the Republican, gun wielding cowboys the most. Who knew? Thanks for reminding me re Challenger keep forgetting. The others sound good too.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Oct 9, 2020 9:39:54 GMT
Started on Damages. I like the concept but the turnings, loopings and back stabbings just not my cup of tea. Went to Hawaii Five O (modern version not the old one though I watched that too as a kid) and it's a typical fast pace cop show. my eyes at the ending of the pilot; of course they couldn't find the body of the baddie, he's just going to show up again later (I wish writers would stop doing that). Also at the second ep when the second MC opened the suspect's paper bag to check what's in it and promptly fished out a pistol with his bare hand. Yep, you're a real super duper cop. You just whazooo the evidence with your fingerprints.
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