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Post by Beerfish on Jun 2, 2018 13:46:17 GMT
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Post by Sifr on Jun 2, 2018 14:46:15 GMT
I've watched most of The Walking Dead despite the fact that, if I'm honest with myself, I kind of hate it for the relentless cynicism and the way anybody who doesn't embrace "kill or be killed" usually ends up looking stupid. I haven't seen the 8th season yet, but Rick has been a point of frustration for me for a while - I don't think he's a very good leader, practically or morally, and it's not clear to me why everybody still follows him. I probably won't miss him if the show continues without him, but I'm not sure I'll ever see the series as anything other than a car wreck that I can't look away from for some reason. These "lyrics" to the theme sum up most of my problems with the show;
Sure, it's a parody, but they're not wrong about how Rick's group come across as harbingers of death and destruction wherever they go. Alexandria had survived for over two years without any problems before Rick's group showed up, at which point, they were attacked by Wolves, a horde of Walkers and then entered into a protracted conflict with Negan. Strange how the the local leadership and population quickly started to dwindle after Rick's group arrived, usually as a result of something Rick's group did (intentionally or otherwise). Guess that Rick's group didn't need to seize control as they initially discussed, since it ended up falling into their hands by default. At this point, are there any of the original Alexandrians even left?
I haven't really been able to root for Rick (or most of the group) since the prison, as they've become stuck in a recurring loop of poor decisions, hypocrisy and self-righteousness. Half the time Rick comes across as no less tyrannical of a leader than Negan (or the Governor), except that he has better PR. |
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Post by Iakus on Jun 3, 2018 0:26:42 GMT
I gave the first episode of Reverie a try. It has the potential to be quite good, if they don't fall into a "patient of the week" cycle. A little bit Total Recall, a little bit The Matrix.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jun 3, 2018 10:47:45 GMT
Watching Handmaids Tale and American Gods. Handmaids is as depressing and awesome as Season 1.
American Gods is....odd. And oddly addictive. Definitely hooked.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2018 16:57:38 GMT
Watching Handmaids Tale and American Gods. Handmaids is as depressing and awesome as Season 1. American Gods is....odd. And oddly addictive. Definitely hooked. Couldn't do Handmaid's Tale. Girlfriend suggested I try it so maybe we both could watch it together. Newp newp newp. I liked American Gods but odd is a pretty nice way to describe it.  My girlfriend couldn't get into it though. I quite like Ian Mcshane, he solidifies anything he's in for me. It was a book I was recommended a few times years ago. Never did get around to reading it. This'll suffice.  |
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jun 3, 2018 20:44:39 GMT
Watching Handmaids Tale and American Gods. Handmaids is as depressing and awesome as Season 1. American Gods is....odd. And oddly addictive. Definitely hooked. Couldn't do Handmaid's Tale. Girlfriend suggested I try it so maybe we both could watch it together. Newp newp newp. I liked American Gods but odd is a pretty nice way to describe it.  My girlfriend couldn't get into it though. I quite like Ian Mcshane, he solidifies anything he's in for me. It was a book I was recommended a few times years ago. Never did get around to reading it. This'll suffice.  Fair enough on Handmaids. It can be brutal to watch. In the first season we were never able to watch more than two episodes in a sitting, we were just drained after it. We watched the first three of the second season in one go, but only because the second one and start of the third had a ray of hope running through them. |
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Post by frosted on Jun 4, 2018 2:28:20 GMT
Watching Handmaids Tale and American Gods. Handmaids is as depressing and awesome as Season 1. American Gods is....odd. And oddly addictive. Definitely hooked. As far as the TV show "American Gods" goes, it's an excellent show that I have enjoyed and I recommend it along with Neil Gaiman's book of the same title.  With "Handmaid's Tale" though, I found the book an enjoyable one in the late eighties, during that more optimistic time in American history. Although the book is still an excellent read, as a woman, I can see how it is regarded as extremely depressing by this generation of female readers. I don't blame them in light of current events. The TV show is excellent, but I don't follow it closely due to the potential similarity current events. It's painful to watch. Handmaid's Tale will definitely leave many with the feeling that the separation of church and state is a good thing... |
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jun 4, 2018 2:36:48 GMT
Watching Handmaids Tale and American Gods. Handmaids is as depressing and awesome as Season 1. American Gods is....odd. And oddly addictive. Definitely hooked. As far as the TV show "American Gods" goes, it's an excellent show that I have enjoyed and I recommend it along with Neil Gaiman's book of the same title. *snip* With "Handmaid's Tale" though, I found the book an enjoyable one in the late eighties, during that more optimistic time in American history. Although the book is still an excellent read, as a woman, I can see how it is regarded as extremely depressing by this generation of female readers. I don't blame them in light of current events. The TV show is excellent, but I don't follow it closely due to the potential similarity current events. It's painful to watch. Handmaid's Tale will definitely leave many with the feeling that the separation of church and state is a good thing... Yeah, enjoying American Gods. Up to the third (or fourth??) episode...the flashback one which tells the story of Shadow meeting his wife and her...um..."changes" . I get it - in terms of Handmaid being too painful to watch. When people who are excellent at what they do, want to force you to think outside of a comfort zone the results are - predictably - uncomfortable. |
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Post by frosted on Jun 4, 2018 2:47:49 GMT
I honestly watch The Walking Dead at this point as a "tradition" more than anything else. It's one of the few tv shows I watch on the tv. At this point it feels like they're continuing it for the sake of keeping the show on, they always come up with some story or excuse to never end the series. Don't get me wrong, it's not like I dislike it, but it feels like they are just dragging this thing. The ending itself of last season was pretty cool though (you know exactly which part I'm talking about if you watch the series).Yes, it was, but... I found the suggestion of Maggie and certain others feeling the need to make Rick pay for his decision about Negan a bit much... When the show finally does wind down, I'd like to either see a cure discovered or see the virus mutate and burn itself out. I'd also like to see an origin story for the virus. |
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jun 4, 2018 3:08:09 GMT
I honestly watch The Walking Dead at this point as a "tradition" more than anything else. It's one of the few tv shows I watch on the tv. At this point it feels like they're continuing it for the sake of keeping the show on, they always come up with some story or excuse to never end the series. Don't get me wrong, it's not like I dislike it, but it feels like they are just dragging this thing. The ending itself of last season was pretty cool though (you know exactly which part I'm talking about if you watch the series).Yes, it was, but... I founded the suggestion of Maggie and certain others feeling the need to make Rick pay for his decision about Negan a bit much... When the show finally does wind down, I'd like to either see a cure discovered or see the virus mutate and burn itself out. I'd also like to see an origin story for the virus. Yeah - very much. The reason I have no interest in Fear the Walking Dead is because - before it came out - I just assumed it would deal with this very subject. Then it premiered only to reveal it was "more of the same" just in a different part of the country. The only reason I'd watch a prequel show would be to discover things the "main" show didn't show or tell me. |
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Post by CHRrOME on Jun 4, 2018 12:44:07 GMT
I honestly watch The Walking Dead at this point as a "tradition" more than anything else. It's one of the few tv shows I watch on the tv. At this point it feels like they're continuing it for the sake of keeping the show on, they always come up with some story or excuse to never end the series. Don't get me wrong, it's not like I dislike it, but it feels like they are just dragging this thing. The ending itself of last season was pretty cool though (you know exactly which part I'm talking about if you watch the series).Yes, it was, but... I founded the suggestion of Maggie and certain others feeling the need to make Rick pay for his decision about Negan a bit much... When the show finally does wind down, I'd like to either see a cure discovered or see the virus mutate and burn itself out. I'd also like to see an origin story for the virus. I agree 100% on that. Also about the virus, it's like they kinda wanted to tell the viewers at some point more about how all started, but then scrapped all that in favor of "survival TV zombie" kinda thingy which was super trendy back then. There's a side show "Fear The Walking Dead" ? never seen it, but I've got the impression is just another money maker series, not something done to explain anything really. |
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Post by CHRrOME on Jun 4, 2018 12:53:01 GMT
BTW, if you guys are not aware, or perhaps heard about, but are not sure if watching or not:
Counterpart. I highly recommend it. It's kind of "parallel universe" type of thing, but it's more so "parallel Planet Earth" .
And I finished watching The Terror last weekend, it's really good (it also was very appropriate since it finally started to get some cold where I live). Although I don't see how a second season would work for this one, but we'll see. Plus if any of you watch GoT or watched Rome back then, you'll recognize a couple of people here.
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Jun 4, 2018 13:31:46 GMT
I've watched most of The Walking Dead despite the fact that, if I'm honest with myself, I kind of hate it for the relentless cynicism and the way anybody who doesn't embrace "kill or be killed" usually ends up looking stupid. I haven't seen the 8th season yet, but Rick has been a point of frustration for me for a while - I don't think he's a very good leader, practically or morally, and it's not clear to me why everybody still follows him. I probably won't miss him if the show continues without him, but I'm not sure I'll ever see the series as anything other than a car wreck that I can't look away from for some reason. These "lyrics" to the theme sum up most of my problems with the show;
Sure, it's a parody, but they're not wrong about how Rick's group come across as harbingers of death and destruction wherever they go. Alexandria had survived for over two years without any problems before Rick's group showed up, at which point, they were attacked by Wolves, a horde of Walkers and then entered into a protracted conflict with Negan. Strange how the the local leadership and population quickly started to dwindle after Rick's group arrived, usually as a result of something Rick's group did (intentionally or otherwise). Guess that Rick's group didn't need to seize control as they initially discussed, since it ended up falling into their hands by default. At this point, are there any of the original Alexandrians even left?
I haven't really been able to root for Rick (or most of the group) since the prison, as they've become stuck in a recurring loop of poor decisions, hypocrisy and self-righteousness. Half the time Rick comes across as no less tyrannical of a leader than Negan (or the Governor), except that he has better PR. Yeah, in that episode where Morgan came across Ezekiel's Kingdom group, I thought to myself, "Whatever you all do, don't let Rick find this place." The last time I watched, I think one of Deanna's sons was still alive in Alexandria, and maybe that guy Tobin that Carol was apparently in a relationship with at some point. But it definitely seems like Rick's group just brought a bunch of misery and death to the Alexandrians. It was especially ridiculous how, after that zombie snuck in at the end of Season 5, he started posturing in front of them about how this showed that they "needed" his group and he'd teach them how to survive - but the zombie only got in because one of Rick's group (Gabriel) didn't lock the gate properly. The only thing Rick's group accomplished that the Alexandrians might not have done on their own was to discover that big pit of walkers. But then Rick's plan for dealing with the walkers still got a bunch of people killed, left the town vulnerable to the Wolves, and nearly failed altogether except for the fact that the walkers all just marched right into a fire. Like you, I've had trouble really "rooting" for most of the characters. I suppose I've watched partly out of curiosity as to whether the writers or the characters will recognize the cynicism for what it is and step away from it somehow. It seemed like they might be doing that with Morgan, but his transition from mourning father to randomly violent psycho to pacifist to, well, whatever the hell he was towards the end of S7 never made a whole lot of sense to me. |
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Post by Nayawk on Jun 4, 2018 20:49:09 GMT
There's a side show "Fear The Walking Dead" ? never seen it, but I've got the impression is just another money maker series, not something done to explain anything really. I gave Fear the Walking Dead a go, I struggled though the first season but in the end it wasn't good enough for me to go back for more. Again there isn't any real attempt to explain origins or find a cure, at least in the first season. |
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Post by Nayawk on Jun 4, 2018 21:10:34 GMT
I still have season 3 of Fargo on my DVR that I need to get round to watching. Season 1 was good, season 2 was awesome, hopefully season 3 carries on the trend.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 4, 2018 21:31:04 GMT
Oh, nice! 
Yes, the first season is a little tedious to watch at times but stick with it. The show really takes of at the end of season 1 and season 2-4 are among the best that character driven SciFi has to offer. Even though the show (and especially season 5) suffered from almost being canceled after season 4, it is still one of the most thought out plots of any TV series I've seen.
As a bonus, it's the closest you'll probably get to Mass Effect: The TV Show. 
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You have to filter out a lot of cheese. The first season is rough to get through as the groundwork is being laid and... there's a lot of groundwork. There's also a lot of cheese. It's really, really, cheesy. Can't stress that enough. There are many parts that have not aged well, beyond all the flaws it had to begin with. But. It is so worth it. You grit through S1 then all of a sudden, things start to make more sense. A shittonne of bad things happen, and some catalyst moments really spur things forward. You start to look back at some of the batshit random things that went on in S1 and realize much of it was foreshadow. S3 comes around and you have established story-lines and plots that IMHO you really can sink your teeth into. They are going places, it's worth the effort. The main caste may grab you or not at first, as the series develops I can promise you the characters do as well. I've never seen anything since that could quite compare to the story arcs of Londo and G'kar. Again IMHO, G'kar is in the running for best developed character on screen. Any screen, bar none. *** Basically what I am trying to say is it's really hard to get into. So hard that I don't blame anyone for not managing it nowadays. I can promise you it's worth it though. Damn, almost convinced myself to do a rewatch. Hrmm... |
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 5, 2018 1:24:12 GMT
You have to filter out a lot of cheese. The first season is rough to get through as the groundwork is being laid and... there's a lot of groundwork. There's also a lot of cheese. It's really, really, cheesy. Can't stress that enough. There are many parts that have not aged well, beyond all the flaws it had to begin with. But. It is so worth it. You grit through S1 then all of a sudden, things start to make more sense. A shittonne of bad things happen, and some catalyst moments really spur things forward. You start to look back at some of the batshit random things that went on in S1 and realize much of it was foreshadow. S3 comes around and you have established story-lines and plots that IMHO you really can sink your teeth into. They are going places, it's worth the effort. The main caste may grab you or not at first, as the series develops I can promise you the characters do as well. I've never seen anything since that could quite compare to the story arcs of Londo and G'kar. Again IMHO, G'kar is in the running for best developed character on screen. Any screen, bar none. *** Basically what I am trying to say is it's really hard to get into. So hard that I don't blame anyone for not managing it nowadays. I can promise you it's worth it though. Damn, almost convinced myself to do a rewatch. Hrmm... Agree on G'kar, so many quotable lines. But don't forget Garibaldi! His ark is one of the best I've seen in a series.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 2:35:46 GMT
Spoilered cause I'ma gonna talk about some spoilery stuff. The kind of spoilery stuff you don't want to know even in glancing, so don't click it if you're considering sinking your teeth into it.  Agree on G'kar, so many quotable lines. But don't forget Garibaldi! His ark is one of the best I've seen in a series.
Garibaldi's arc of addiction is fantastic. Yet that's how I'd sum it up, relatively succinctly. The thing that was standing in the way of Garibaldi being Garibaldi was a bottle that he had to beat, or get to the bottom of lol. There's more to it of course, and really I'm still saying it's 9.9/10 with much more going on and resolved...
But...
G'kar is the natural 10/10 for me. A contender for top. Garibaldi does a 360° with a twist and ultimately ends up doing well in roughly the same direction he's been going in from the start. G'kar on the other hand is different people. He goes 180°, a much more difficult direction IMO. His character wasn't set and just needed a course correction like Garibaldi. G'kar moves through things that should change him fundamentally and they do. I would never have expected S1 G'kar to go from topical season 1 near-comic-relief-level villain to one-eyed rebel leader warrior-priest espousing religious philosophy that actually makes good sense in reality! And to have that progression happen fairly smoothly... (Fairly...)
If you're reading the spoilery bits that you damned well shouldn't be this is another reason to watch the show. I'm picking between great and greatest. And that's just scratching the surface. |
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Post by CHRrOME on Jun 5, 2018 17:03:57 GMT
I still have season 3 of Fargo on my DVR that I need to get round to watching. Season 1 was good, season 2 was awesome, hopefully season 3 carries on the trend. Trust me it does (imo), and you'll see maybe some familiar faces... |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 5, 2018 22:10:19 GMT
Can't stop thinking about Star Wars.
I'm hoping that that Star Wars TV series comes out soon and that it's based off the scripts for the original Star Wars Underworld TV show that Lucas was working on.
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Post by Lady Artifice on Jun 5, 2018 22:16:02 GMT
I really need to get started on American Gods. I liked the book.
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I really need to get started on American Gods. I liked the book. If you're fine with them adding and changing stuff, you'll probably like it. |
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Post by Lady Artifice on Jun 5, 2018 22:18:04 GMT
I doubt I'll watch another season of Altered Carbon, after...
They killed off Poe, who was one of the only things I loved about the series.
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