Unpopular opinion: Straight Male romance was shafted.

*Shrug*

To me it's okay to be unhappy because the romance options offered were not to your liking. They can't cater to all types, so it's bound to happen to a lot of people. It's the same feeling when everyone else seem to win the lottery but you ended up with a blank - disappointment.

It's when some people (not referring to anyone in this thread) make it out that BioWare is persecuting them personally on the basis of some weird agenda with absolutely no basis in actual fact that I start rolling my eyes.

(Sorry everyone for the back to back posts. My phone doesn't let me multi-quote.)




I romanced Dorian with a proud Dalish elf. I don't think it's so much that Dorian is a-ok with slavery, just that he hasn't realized how terrible slavery is because he has been so focused on the blood magic problem that Tevinter has. It's ignorance on his part, not malice. We all think slavery is one of the most evil things that humans can do because we've been raised in a society that believes that. Dorian was raised in a society that claims it is better to be a slave in Tevinter than to be poor in the south. He needs his beliefs changed, obviously, but that sort of thing takes time. I like to think my Lavellan is changing his mind, though.

The assumption that Cullen is so popular with women because of his looks in DAI is rather harsh. I love Cullen, but honestly I would've found his looks too 'pretty', but his personality and past story are what makes him my favorite DAI romance. Ever since DAO I've had my eye on Cullen and back then AND in DA2 his looks weren't that great, but I've always rooted for him in the past because he is such a sweetheart and when he became a romance option, I was definitely going to go for that romance no matter what.

As for Blackwall, I saw his romance on Youtube before I even played the game and I couldn't stand him or his romance. When he's in jail and telling his story he sounds more like a whinney, self-serving twit that's feeling sorry for himself, I don't get the feeling of any genuine remorse coming from him.

Ironbull's romance never felt like an actual romance, his part in the relationship just felt too much like an obligation than honest affection.

I've never romanced Solas because to me, he always felt more like a teacher and mentor than he did like a romancable character.

Dorian, I love that guy's personality. His voice actor is frickin' brilliant and hilarious. I love listening to pissy Dorian just as much as I love listening to sensitive, sweet Dorian. He was given a personality that you have to just stand back and watch unfold to completely appreciate it. As for his looks, IMO again too pretty and a hairstyle that completely sucks. But when he gets that emotional tremble in his voice or comes out with that snooty superior attitude that makes me laugh, I can overlook his overly pretty looks and his stupid hairstyle.

I understand what was said about Josphine's mouth. She has a terrible overbite and crappy teeth, her fashion sense makes me cringe also, but her personality is adorable. Her romance was a little too clean for my liking, way too fairytale, but it was 'cute'.

Cass, I loved her personality, but she was too ridgid in action and speaking and I think she could've used a better hairstyle.

Sera, could never romance her, she feels more like a daughter or a niece to me and it just feels wrong.

As for looks, Lelianna and Morrigan were probably the best looking of the females and either one of them would've made nice romance options and I know I keep saying this, but Knight Captain Rylen REALLY should've been a romance option. His personality is frickin'awesome. I wish they would've worked on him.

It was obviously the looks that made me romance the man fondly nicknamed "the Egg"...

The only Bioware romance I found immediately attractive was Alistair, everyone else I only started to find attractive after I actually talked to them (Fenris, Solas, Garrus).

Ah, look...A Misandrist has arrived...

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/billion-wicked-thoughts/201401/what-kind-porn-do-women-the-most

Important quote from that article:-


Whoops...Sorry to burst your bubble of misandric ignorance sweetie...looks like women like to watch the same porn men like to watch...This implies that women like to (according to you that is) watch crude, repugnant and perverted things done by them and to them (to be fair it is not surprising, there is a reason why 50 Shades of Grey is so popular)...Then again, a misandrist is not interested in facts, only hatred of the male sex...

Then let's see...Next you try to label me as a loser, even though it is a fact that more and more men across all cultures in the world are less interested in having romantic relationships with women, less interested in getting married to women and less interested in having children with them, preferring to be bachelors and play video games and watch porn as evidenced by the rise of groups of men like the Grass Eaters in the East and the MGTOW in the West (You do have to marvel at how unappealing women en masse have become to men, when men find pixels on screen more attractive)...I wonder, will you label all these men from different age groups and different cultures as losers ? You probably would, seeing as you are a misandrist...


The piece de resistance of the "kinder, more nurturing, more compassionate, gentler sex" gents...Whitewashing genital mutilation...

So if I state things that are true and backed up by evidence, I am being oppressed ? Gotta love the mental gymnastics at work.

By the way, for the love of all that's holy, please improve your English, or use a good spell checking & grammar checking software - It is getting really painful to read what you type and if this continues, I will not bother replying to you in the future. I already am dealing with people who can't spell properly at work, I don't want to deal with them here.

Tsk tsk tsk....Come now Vivainadx, you can do better than that...

1) My type ? Stating a global fact means I have a type ?

2) Stating general trends = Poor Me & Boo Hoo ? I suppose you hate scientists and mathematicians too, for their livelihood involves working with and stating general trends.

3) You like men but you somehow think that a man who is stating things that are true is not one. Darling you can have both those statements be true. Pick one. That and you are incapable of stating who can be a "real man", since you are biologically not a real man yourself.

4) Celebrate with the female community ? Its nice to see that I can inspire celebrations. You go gals, drinks all around !

5) You are correct on one thing, I will give you that - I have no interest in settling down to have a family. That is simply because I want to live my life as freely and as peacefully as possible. Women and children can grant men many things, but they are only capable of taking a man's freedom and peace of mind away.  That and I do not fancy coming back home to a nagging banshee and a bunch of little goblins after a hard day at work - I prefer to come home to some peace and quiet. Also, I don't want to lose my house, my car and half of my things when the woman inevitably decides to nuke the marriage because she's "not feeling happy anymore".

I'm sorry, but did this person legitimately say it was racist to have a preference? I'm sorry, but no it isn't. Everyone has preferences. It's very rare for people to date outside of their race, check out the statistics. Now. had I said NO ONE should date outside their race, or had I made an argument that one race was superior (you know, the definition of racism) you may have a fair point. I simply said I'm not personally attracted to women of color. This is a personal preference that I can't control and is only a shallow one. admittedly. It has noting to do with anything outside of that.

People like you continue to remove any and all meaning from the word racism and it's incredibly dangerous because eventualy no one is going to believe when someone is legitimately being racist.

Also, to address the bizarre little argument going on above: there is nothing wrong with being a pervert, male or female, as long as there is consent involved. I find this idea of "levels of perversion" to be Orwelian and so vague that it's clearly an attempt to put a proverbial scarlett letter on anyone you deem "wrong". Dangerous.

Yeah, lol. I'm gonna have to agree with you, as someone who enjoyed all of em straight male romances (they ain't even at the level that the gay men get though.) 

I had to laugh with this part. Have you considered that maybe -just maybe- Catilina's first language isn't english? Of course he's gonna have grammar mistakes.
Not replying him for that seems pretty stupid to me.

Ah, this thread...

Where's @brevnau when you need him?

This is not new ground, BioWare make choices about characters, and beyond that players may express romance preferences from the choices available to them. There's no easy line to draw, one person's preference is another person's entitlement.

It did get a little silly, in my view, during the whole 'Cassandra looks like a man' debate.

Remember this?:



Yes, in the past players could view any romanceable character as someone you can be automatically attracted to, to romance, like a magnet, because when you're the protagonist they let you do it, you can do anything... 

But BioWare's story telling has migrated from romance companions as player-centric 'banging subjects' to characters with some level of self-determination, such as Sera being 'just not that into you...'

Personally I think that's a good thing, but people can disagree (politely).

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