Unpopular opinion: Straight Male romance was shafted.

There's no real point to "SJW" anymore since each person applies it in accordance to their own definition. When I once asked for clarification on the term, I recieved several different accounts on what it meant.

So a pretty good looking man who has pleasant interactions with women. In other news, water is wet.

In general, women are only going to be nice towards men who are good looking or rich or kiss their ass 24/7 or any combination of the three. In fact if you are man who is rich enough and good looking enough, you can get away with pretty much anything.

Now if you are a man who is not good looking (below average height for instance), not rich, and not pandering to women 24/7,  you are not going to have pleasant interactions with women because women do not have anything they can exploit from you. You are not good looking (subpar genes), not rich (no resources), not worshiping the ground they walk on (cannot be easily manipulated).

It is what it is.

I have mental illness as well, but I find the idea of "trigger words" to be ridiculous. You can't expect everyone to not say thing that won't bother you. It's also really not comparable. Arguing in favor of free speech is not the same thing as complaining about everything and trying to control everyone.

Oh, I agree with you on the consentual part, as long as it's also age appropriate, but after that, yeah, it does become a perversion. Porn that was filmed unconsentually or has non-age appropriate sex between people or non-humans, is a peversion, IMO, whether you're male of female, viewing it.

Whatever happens in consentually staged porn that doesn't include minors or animals, I'm not concerned with, but to knowingly watch and enjoy an actual rape or the abuse of a child or a snuff film, yeah, I'd call that a perversion.

I wasn't trying to be deliberately vague, i was more concerned about addressing his broad man vs woman comments and point out that it isn't watching porn that makes you a pervert, it's the type of porn you watch, whether you're male or female. Maybe my wording wasn't the best, I hope I clarified my meaning better.

The difference is that there is no sense, because the Bioware staff do not see...

They want us to go to Facebook/Tumblr/Reddit/Twitter for discussions instead tho...



eww.

I didn't want to get invovled in this kind of discussion, but I have to adress some of your views, which to me seem a bit narrow:

1. Women only like bad guys.
I'm a straight woman and I would have preferred a Varric romance over all the supposedly good looking males in all three games. Why? Because he is actually a very nice guy with a great character- that is the difference between a nice guy like Varric and a nice guy like Kaidan. Kaidan is a stereotype, I got the impression, the developers did not even bother to make a fully fleshed out character out of him, while Varric has a lot to say and a lot of backstory (I'm talking about Kaidan in ME 1 since I have not played the other parts yet, so maybe he gets better there?).
So it's not about nice versus bad, but about interesting character versus boring character. And I'm not the only straight woman with that opinion, just look at the different character sections on this or the old board and you will see, that a lot of women would actually have preferred sane, reliable and sweet Varric over raging mage hater Fenris or mad Anders in DA2 for example. And no, not every woman likes drama in a romance. But in my experience most game lovestories, regardless of gender, have a bit of drama, to keep the story interesting, for example Aerie and Jaheira in Baldurs Gate 2 (not to mention Anomen - the worst romance ever), Bastila in KOTOR, Morrigan, Leliana and Alistair in DAO (Zevran was surprsingly undramatic  - and is still one of my favorite romances for exactly that reason) or our winner concerning drama queens: DA2, where really every romanceable character has his or her very own little drama and angst going on (therefore the wish for Varric - or Aveline for that matter).  So I'm not sure, how that is exactly a woman thing, since a lot of male players seem to love Aerie, Jaheira, Bastila, Morrigan, Leliana, Isabella or Merrill for either that reason or despite it.


2. Women only like good looking men
See my first point: Varric - favorite male in all games. And I have a huge crush on Orsino in DA2, an elderly not very handsome elf. Many female players like Solas, whose nickname 'egghead' is well earned. Maybe those girls like drama, but maybe they just like a well fleshed out character, because I have to admit, although I'm not the biggest Solas fan, he is well written and his true identity came out as a surprise.

I wrote this to give you a female gamers perspective, because you claim to know so much about us, but in fact know so little, I had to intervene here. You can argue, that this is subjective, but so are your claims. This whole discussion is subjective, it's about personal preferances in a fictional lovestory and imo, there is no objective right or wrong answer. If the threadstarter is unhappy with the li choices for his character, it's as right as the claim of others, that the same li choices are their favorites. But to claim as a man to know how all female players feel or what they think, is a bit exaggerated, don't you think? I'm a woman and I don't claim to know, how all the other woman tick and I certainly would not dare to claim to know, how all the male player here tick.

Oh - and btw: I wont think less of you because you like to watch porn or you like to live alone, that is a) none of my business and you don't hurt anyone in doing that. I would think less of you, if you hurt other living beings, but that is not gendergated, I would hate men and women equally for doing that, so please don't feel oppressed anymore 

I think, women don't like the whiny jerks. My advice: stop whining, be gentleman!

No, it's the taking the "everybody knows" generalities for granted as fact, that can deceive oneself out of possibilities. And that's very often what a good story is about...and why it almost always involves drama, dramatic or colorful characters, suspension of disbelief, and things that stimulate the imagination.

*fastening her cape and start bursting into a villanous song*

Best thing to do, when dealing with certain kind of persons in the internet, I guess



Totally agree with you. I'm still waiting for the scientific proof apart from one article about Porn and women

(Offtopic: bunnies are the coolest)

Yeah, I'm beginning to realise that. Should have been warned by the comments, but then, I'm an optimist

Sifr

So what you're saying is that Varric....is Batman.

nana nana nana nana !