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Post by PillarBiter on Jun 26, 2018 7:24:35 GMT
I would also like to point out that BioWare shut down old BSN and tried to cover it up with a piss poor excuse of there being more social media to use and connect with fans.
If they do feel disheartened reading this forum, maybe they shouldn't have nuked their moderated forum and tried to lie about their reasoning. BioWare are bunch of snowflakes. They can't tell the difference between criticism and toxicity? No wonder they're sucking making games now. Actually, I was there at the time and it really WAS a very toxic place to be, with mostly the fans being triggered snowflakes. I understand them taking action back then, but closing the forum might have been a cheap way out, though.
PS: I love the irony of this post.
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Post by cloud9 on Jun 26, 2018 7:32:58 GMT
BioWare are bunch of snowflakes. They can't tell the difference between criticism and toxicity? No wonder they're sucking making games now. Actually, I was there at the time and it really WAS a very toxic place to be, with mostly the fans being triggered snowflakes. I understand them taking action back then, but closing the forum might have been a cheap way out, though.
PS: I love the irony of this post.
If people put death threats and throwing temper tantrums on people who make the game, then they are not fans. They're bunch of stupid idiots who just want chaos. Real fans give constructive criticism and advice when it comes to improving story, character, game design, or whatever. But outright shutdown the forum because of those idiots, and not putting real moderators to keep the peace? That's their fault.
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Post by cloud9 on Jun 26, 2018 23:22:08 GMT
As I said: BioWare are a bunch of snowflakes.
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Post by linksocarina on Jun 29, 2018 17:38:07 GMT
As I said: BioWare are a bunch of snowflakes. So is yongyea, if his videos are any evidence of it.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 29, 2018 17:47:11 GMT
Are people still spreading misinformation like that around?
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Post by smilesja on Jun 29, 2018 17:48:30 GMT
I would also like to point out that BioWare shut down old BSN and tried to cover it up with a piss poor excuse of there being more social media to use and connect with fans.
If they do feel disheartened reading this forum, maybe they shouldn't have nuked their moderated forum and tried to lie about their reasoning. BioWare are bunch of snowflakes. They can't tell the difference between criticism and toxicity? No wonder they're sucking making games now. I’ve heard during the release of ME3, the forums were really toxic.
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Post by simit on Jun 29, 2018 17:51:41 GMT
EA really seems to be yongyEAs viagra
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Post by linksocarina on Jun 29, 2018 17:57:47 GMT
Are people still spreading misinformation like that around? Oh that was said. But it's also not wrong to an extant. Not sure how this makes them snowflakes though.
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Post by bshep on Jun 29, 2018 18:31:47 GMT
Are people still spreading misinformation like that around? Always. Haters gonna hate and youtubers love the clicks.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 29, 2018 18:38:48 GMT
EA really seems to be yongyEAs viagra Yong does jump on any excuse to 'fuck EA!'
And to be fair, I think we've wrung the juice out of this topic. Please continue to discuss if you wish, but I'm going to anchor it.
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Post by correctamundo on Jun 29, 2018 22:59:14 GMT
Are people still spreading misinformation like that around? Trolls, not people.
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Post by cloud9 on Jun 30, 2018 9:19:19 GMT
Criticism is an important part of creativity, both from yourself and others. If they can’t take criticism.... sigh. And this is coming from an ultra sensitive person here. If i don’t get good criticism in my job I get suspicious. edit: that said doomsaying is not productive. Productive critique is. Harassing is bad. Constant end is neighing is boring and unproductive. Be productive I guess.
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Post by deus on Jun 30, 2018 13:15:01 GMT
I think bioware just needs to stop caring what the rabid "fans" complain about and just make the games they want to.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 30, 2018 19:11:15 GMT
Are people still spreading misinformation like that around? Welcome to the Internet, my friend.
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Post by cloud9 on Jun 30, 2018 21:41:58 GMT
I think bioware just needs to stop caring what the rabid "fans" complain about and just make the games they want to. Look at Andromeda and look where that got them.
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Post by Addictress on Jul 2, 2018 4:53:16 GMT
In my experience with the BSN, this one, and the old official one, I've found the fans posting to be more negative. But that's because, going to and signing up to a fan forum, typically means that they have more invested in the game, and that they're "bigger" fans. The typical person who buys games, they don't even finish them, I'm the same way with many games, especially if I'm busy or a lot of games are coming out. For example I haven't finished the newest Assassin's Creed yet, and it took me almost a month to finish God of War. So I don't bother to go on their fan sites, only fan sites I frequent, is BioWare, though no game in over a year leads to not much to talk about. Except SWTOR which I go to that forum frequently. And WoW, which I go to their official forum as well as MMO Champion frequently. But with BioWare games, I have more Shepards than I have fingers and toes, likewise for the Warden. And it wouldn't surprise me to hear that in the lower numbers compared to other members of the community. And when you have Mass Effect 3 come out and end the way it ended, of course the people who invested significant time into the game are going to be disappointed and go online to voice negative reactions, same with Andromeda. I don't recall Inquisition getting a lot of negative reactions, I think it was more mixed. As for Anthem, well it's clearly a game that is not typical of a BioWare game, so a BioWare fan forum created for fans of BioWare games, are going to be more negative towards it. And if anybody is surprised by that, then they just aren't paying attention, especially if it's part of the Dev team. [They are not SofaJockey ] If they honestly believe that BioWare fans are going to run out and buy this game because they say it feels BioWare even though what they show says otherwise, then, they're just deluding themselves.
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Post by ahglock on Jul 4, 2018 2:28:29 GMT
BioWare are bunch of snowflakes. They can't tell the difference between criticism and toxicity? No wonder they're sucking making games now. Actually, I was there at the time and it really WAS a very toxic place to be, with mostly the fans being triggered snowflakes. I understand them taking action back then, but closing the forum might have been a cheap way out, though.
PS: I love the irony of this post.
I was there too, I think the toxicity is overstated. Were there some really big jerks, sure but overall it wasn't that bad.
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Post by deus on Jul 4, 2018 4:58:22 GMT
I think bioware just needs to stop caring what the rabid "fans" complain about and just make the games they want to. Look at Andromeda and look where that got them. What are you talking about? They changed Sara because people bitched that she was ugly.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 4, 2018 5:23:14 GMT
I think bioware just needs to stop caring what the rabid "fans" complain about and just make the games they want to. Look at Andromeda and look where that got them. It got them Andromeda, Andromeda was fan service to the extreme every other decision was designed around "feedback" from the internet. Look at the major changes to the game and a lot of those features and changes were based on what people were complaining about from the first three games.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 4, 2018 5:55:51 GMT
I would also like to point out that BioWare shut down old BSN and tried to cover it up with a piss poor excuse of there being more social media to use and connect with fans.
If they do feel disheartened reading this forum, maybe they shouldn't have nuked their moderated forum and tried to lie about their reasoning. I'm pretty sure that they just decided that their time and money would be better spent elsewhere. They're being paid to make games, after all, not to mediate petty arguments between strangers.
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Post by General Mahad on Jul 4, 2018 20:16:56 GMT
I would also like to point out that BioWare shut down old BSN and tried to cover it up with a piss poor excuse of there being more social media to use and connect with fans.
If they do feel disheartened reading this forum, maybe they shouldn't have nuked their moderated forum and tried to lie about their reasoning. I'm pretty sure that they just decided that their time and money would be better spent elsewhere. They're being paid to make games, after all, not to mediate petty arguments between strangers. Then don't lie about it, and admit upright "We are shutting down because you guys are toxic."
Boom, honesty and much more respect.
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Post by cloud9 on Jul 6, 2018 23:21:43 GMT
As I said: BioWare are a bunch of snowflakes. So is yongyea, if his videos are any evidence of it. Um, he does have sources to back up his claim, and the evidence is irrefutable at this point.
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Post by linksocarina on Jul 6, 2018 23:41:27 GMT
So is yongyea, if his videos are any evidence of it. Um, he does have sources to back up his claim, and the evidence is irrefutable at this point. Oh I never said the quotes were wrong. I have the same sources of course. Problem is he's akin to the likes of Sean Hannity, for the lack of a better comparison. It's punditry of the facts, his videos. It's low hanging fruit.
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Post by cloud9 on Jul 8, 2018 4:20:49 GMT
I'm pretty sure that they just decided that their time and money would be better spent elsewhere. They're being paid to make games, after all, not to mediate petty arguments between strangers. Then don't lie about it, and admit upright "We are shutting down because you guys are toxic."
Boom, honesty and much more respect.
I mean if that's the case why didn't they put real moderators to keep the peace, instead of outright shutting the forum down because they can't take toxicity?
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 10, 2018 15:35:03 GMT
EA really seems to be yongyEAs viagra Yong does jump on any excuse to 'fuck EA!'
And to be fair, I think we've wrung the juice out of this topic. Please continue to discuss if you wish, but I'm going to anchor it. What does the anchor actually do? - Nevermind - I just learned. Unbumpable.
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