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Post by gangrelbeckett on Jul 31, 2018 19:15:16 GMT
I honestly believe DA 4 Companions to this date are already fixed. I would assume that the DA 4 Release could be 2020/2021.
David Gaider spoke about Maevaris in this Interview roughly two years before DAI Release. Sorry but its too late for Aaron and Vaea at this point. Maybe if DA 4 have less Companion Dialogue than DAI but that sounds unlikely.
Personally I see Maevaris being more of an adviser-like character than a companion. Even if she is a companion however there is no rule against more than one returning character. DA2 had three of the eight be returning characters: Anders, Isabela, Merrill. DAI had five of the twelve in our group be returning characters: Cassandra, Cole, Cullen, Leliana, Varric. Each game had almost half the cast be from previous things. Well for this Adviser/ Major important Character i see more Dorian (and Charter) fitting this role. For the Companions Calpernia, Harding and Maevaris.
Harding is the new familiar Bridge Companion (DAA Oghren, DA 2 Anders and DAI Varric) Calpernia is the promoted minor Character (DA 2 Merrill + Isabela and DAI Cassandra) Maevaris is the Character who original came from another Medium (DAI Cole)
And more than 3 familiar faces i would not expect for the DA 4 Companions.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 31, 2018 19:22:04 GMT
Personally I see Maevaris being more of an adviser-like character than a companion. Even if she is a companion however there is no rule against more than one returning character. DA2 had three of the eight be returning characters: Anders, Isabela, Merrill. DAI had five of the twelve in our group be returning characters: Cassandra, Cole, Cullen, Leliana, Varric. Each game had almost half the cast be from previous things. Well for this Adviser/ Major important Character i see more Dorian (and Charter) fitting this role. For the Companions Calpernia, Harding and Maevaris.
Harding is the new familiar Bridge Companion (DAA Oghren, DA 2 Anders and DAI Varric) Calpernia is the promoted minor Character (DA 2 Merrill + Isabela and DAI Cassandra) Maevaris is the Character who original came from another Medium (DAI Cole)
And more than 3 familiar faces i would not expect for the DA 4 Companions.
Eh, Dorian might be an adviser but I can see him just being a prominent NPC who is connected to Maevaris. Charter I definitely agree would be an adviser if she is in our roster. I don't think and really hope Calpernia won't be in the roster. Yeah unfortunately Harding is all but certain to be returning. Depends how many will be in our group. If we have nine companions again and three advisor-tier characters I see it as more likely to have more than three than not, just following their pattern. Tessa, Marius, and Aaron may not and instead be characters attached to the plots of other characters(Charter for Tessa, Calpernia for Marius, Vaea for Aaron). And we haven't read the other comic yet so can't really say. For all we know this comic may add stuff that will support whether or not characters will be getting a group slot for DA4.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Jul 31, 2018 19:30:42 GMT
Dorian is mostly the one from the Group who aren´t Companions who has the most Screentime. A lot more than Solas i assume.
Maevaris would make Sense. She would be the next logical Step after Krem. The first true Transgender Companion.
Calpernia and Harding they have their Fans. Also within Bioware.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 31, 2018 19:37:05 GMT
Dorian is mostly the one from the Group who aren´t Companions who has the most Screentime. A lot more than Solas i assume. Maevaris would make Sense. She would be the next logical Step after Krem. The first true Transgender Companion. Calpernia and Harding they have their Fans. Also within Bioware. Oh, I agree that Dorian will have quite a bit of screentime. But I can see Bioware not making him part of the group again. As I said, I think Maevaris would fit better as an adviser but I can see them going either way with her. I know they do. Calpernia I don't see them making a companion or part of the group simply because there are as many who hate her as like her so forcing her on those fans would not go well. Maybe she appears as a NPC, but that I think will be it or at least how far it should go. Harding as I said is all but confirmed really, which kind of sucks since that is a wasted companion slot. I don't hate her or anything, I just feel indifferent towards her and do not get why she is so popular.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Jul 31, 2018 20:01:29 GMT
But I can see Bioware not making him part of the group again. Well Dorian is likely one of the candidates for the new Archon. Therefore Dorian must be connected with the DA 4 Hero. I wish Bioware won´t do this Archon election for DA 4 but i am afraid my Wish won´t happen. Who said that Bioware will force these Players with Calpernia?
If you don´t like her then don´t recruit her. Like Sten, Velanna, Fenris, Sera or Vivienne before. Calpernia would be of course an optional DA 4 Companion.
Also Bioware really loves that you don´t have to like everyone in each DA Party.
Harding and Maevaris plus a complete new Warrior would be likely the fixed Start Party.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 1, 2018 10:13:55 GMT
Harding and Maevaris plus a complete new Warrior would be likely the fixed Start Party.
To be honest I can't see Maevaris as a starting companion because that would be too low level for her. She is a Magister of some standing and has been around for longer than Dorian, so it would really stretch credibility for her to be running around as a level 1-3 character. It seems far more likely that if she is a companion at all, you would recruit her at a later stage more appropriate to her status in society, like Vivienne. It is entirely possible we could start with the PC and temporary companions, as we did in DAO, then possibly be befriended by one permanent companion who connects you into the story whilst the others fall by the wayside.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Aug 1, 2018 10:33:15 GMT
Well Dorian is likely one of the candidates for the new Archon. Eh I don't see why. Radonis seems like a reasonable fellow, from the bit we see in Magekiller. I'd prefer the writers just develop him as Archon instead of replacing him.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 1, 2018 11:02:14 GMT
Well Dorian is likely one of the candidates for the new Archon. Eh I don't see why. Radonis seems like a reasonable fellow, from the bit we see in Magekiller. I'd prefer the writers just develop him as Archon instead of replacing him. I think the assumption is based off the fact that in DAO and DAI we were asked to make choices about who should become leader of a state. In DAO we had to do it twice, dwarves and Ferelden, whereas in DAI we were only concerned with the control of Orlais but were also asked for our input about who should be Divine, which almost counts as a head of state. It would make a refreshing change not to be involved in selecting a leader of a state or organisation in DA4. In any case, unless the law of Tevinter is changed by us, Dorian would not qualify as a candidate for Archon specifically because he is now a Magister and according to World of Thedas since the Black Age people have not been eligible for the role if they hold a seat in either the Magisterium or a rank in the Chantry. In order words you cannot be both Archon and Black Divine. Also the Magisterium only get to elect a new Archon if the old one dies without naming an heir. However, it wouldn't be the first time previously stated lore has been changed in subsequent games, so it could happen that Dorian would be put forward as candidate should the need arise.
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Post by leadintea on Aug 1, 2018 11:04:30 GMT
Well Dorian is likely one of the candidates for the new Archon. Eh I don't see why. Radonis seems like a reasonable fellow, from the bit we see in Magekiller. I'd prefer the writers just develop him as Archon instead of replacing him. Yup. I also don't wanna play kingmaker again just because I'm the PC. Leave it to people well versed in those matters.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Aug 1, 2018 11:06:32 GMT
so it could happen that Dorian would be put forward as candidate should the need arise. Put forward by whom? I doubt he has many fans in the Magisterium lining up to kiss his ring.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Aug 2, 2018 8:18:40 GMT
To be honest I can't see Maevaris as a starting companion because that would be too low level for her. She is a Magister of some standing and has been around for longer than Dorian, so it would really stretch credibility for her to be running around as a level 1-3 character. It seems far more likely that if she is a companion at all, you would recruit her at a later stage more appropriate to her status in society, like Vivienne. Same could be said about the high ranking Seeker Cassandra, DA 2 Battle Veteran Varric and even Solas.
For the Story it would make Sense that the Inquisition would recruit someone from their close Allies in Tevinter (The Lucerni).
Of course its possible but Bioware hadn´t done this since Origins.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Aug 10, 2018 12:57:58 GMT
Nunzio DeFilippis also made a comment about this topic.
"Since you asked me to comment... I can say that the characters in these miniseries (Vaea, Ser Aaron, Olivia, Calix, plus people like Granger and Marquette in Knight Errant and a couple of others in Deception) were conceived of by me and Christina. But then those concepts were discussed with the Bioware story team and our editors at Dark Horse and visually designed by Fernando with feedback from Bioware. So we "created" them, but not alone.
There's been wonderful collaboration all around here. I can't speak to a Dragon Age 4 - I can't even confirm if there will be a new game. The purpose of these stories and characters is to explore the world of Thedas through the eyes of new characters who add to the lore. This was probably true when Greg Rucka conceived of Tessa and Marius too.
Would I love it if the characters we came up with ended up in a game? Absolutely. But that's never been their true purpose. Vaea and Ser Aaron were designed to have an adventure in Knight Errant, and then follow up on that adventure with a journey into Tevinter that would make them cross paths with new characters like Olivia and Calix.
The Dark Horse and Bioware teams have let us create stories that (when strung together) will give us a complete look at a lot of these characters. Our bigger hope is to keep their journey going in more comics. The games are not really our agenda - all we want to do is play with the world in a way that fits how the team at Bioware need and want it to go.
Lastly, in the page you showed - that IS Olivia and she's doing the narration, talking about Calix, who you can also see on the page. The cover image is also Olivia - she's a con artist and can be anyone she needs to be at any time, given enough time and enough tools. I hope that info helps." I would claim that is very unlikely that we will see the Comic Characters in major roles. Maybe Tessa and Marius but they are for my taste very bland.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Aug 10, 2018 13:17:05 GMT
Nunzio DeFilippis also made a comment about this topic.
"Since you asked me to comment... I can say that the characters in these miniseries (Vaea, Ser Aaron, Olivia, Calix, plus people like Granger and Marquette in Knight Errant and a couple of others in Deception) were conceived of by me and Christina. But then those concepts were discussed with the Bioware story team and our editors at Dark Horse and visually designed by Fernando with feedback from Bioware. So we "created" them, but not alone.
There's been wonderful collaboration all around here. I can't speak to a Dragon Age 4 - I can't even confirm if there will be a new game. The purpose of these stories and characters is to explore the world of Thedas through the eyes of new characters who add to the lore. This was probably true when Greg Rucka conceived of Tessa and Marius too.
Would I love it if the characters we came up with ended up in a game? Absolutely. But that's never been their true purpose. Vaea and Ser Aaron were designed to have an adventure in Knight Errant, and then follow up on that adventure with a journey into Tevinter that would make them cross paths with new characters like Olivia and Calix.
The Dark Horse and Bioware teams have let us create stories that (when strung together) will give us a complete look at a lot of these characters. Our bigger hope is to keep their journey going in more comics. The games are not really our agenda - all we want to do is play with the world in a way that fits how the team at Bioware need and want it to go.
Lastly, in the page you showed - that IS Olivia and she's doing the narration, talking about Calix, who you can also see on the page. The cover image is also Olivia - she's a con artist and can be anyone she needs to be at any time, given enough time and enough tools. I hope that info helps." I would claim that is very unlikely that we will see the Comic Characters in major roles. Maybe Tessa and Marius but they are for my taste very bland. thank you for this, it's very interesting to hear and read ^^
I'm glad not all of the characters will appear in the new game, maybe as some small parts or referenced (like they did with Rhys and Evangeline) I'd love to see Tessa and Marius, but I won't lose any sleep over it either if they won't appear in the game
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Aug 10, 2018 13:38:21 GMT
I'd love to see Tessa and Marius, but I won't lose any sleep over it either if they won't appear in the game Well i would assume that they will at least be mentioned by Charter and Calpernia. But its also ok if Bioware would kill them Offscreen or in the Comics.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 10, 2018 15:42:29 GMT
Put forward by whom? I doubt he has many fans in the Magisterium lining up to kiss his ring. By the writers of course. I'm not saying that logically it would make any sense but then logically Vivienne should never have been a candidate for Divine seeing as she had neither any prior connection with the Chantry (apart from having been in a Circle at one time) and more importantly the fact she is a mage. I was gobsmacked when I got to the party and was told she was Divine, having not realised it was even a possibility before then. To my mind, even if Radonis has no natural heirs, as a responsible Archon he would have ensured he had nominated a successor. The fact that Halward had been intimating that his son might one day be Archon would suggest that possibly when he was part of Radonis' inner circle he might have been trying to influence him into nominating Dorian. However, once Halward had his fall from grace as the result of the scandal created by his ham fisted kidnapping of his son from another man's estate, it is likely he knew that any hopes he had of Dorian being made Radonis' heir had been well and truly scuppered, which is why he went ahead and made him a Magister. Radonis' choice may not be common knowledge and only stated in a legal document somewhere that can be brought out on his demise. However, if he wasn't responsible enough to nominate an heir, then normal procedures would apply. Frankly I do not see how our PC could in anyway be part of this but you could equally say that about our previous kingmaker activities, so I suppose it is not out of the question.
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Post by TabithaTH on Aug 10, 2018 19:17:01 GMT
Frankly I do not see how our PC could in anyway be part of this but you could equally say that about our previous kingmaker activities, so I suppose it is not out of the question. Why stop at Archon, the PC can probably make him the next Black Divine if they wish . Frankly I’m tired of constantly having to deal with politics my PC never have any reason/interest in. The only time it made any sense was when my Dwarf Noble Warden got her revenge on her backstabbing sob of brother.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 10, 2018 22:12:16 GMT
Nunzio DeFilippis also made a comment about this topic.
"Since you asked me to comment... I can say that the characters in these miniseries (Vaea, Ser Aaron, Olivia, Calix, plus people like Granger and Marquette in Knight Errant and a couple of others in Deception) were conceived of by me and Christina. But then those concepts were discussed with the Bioware story team and our editors at Dark Horse and visually designed by Fernando with feedback from Bioware. So we "created" them, but not alone.
There's been wonderful collaboration all around here. I can't speak to a Dragon Age 4 - I can't even confirm if there will be a new game. The purpose of these stories and characters is to explore the world of Thedas through the eyes of new characters who add to the lore. This was probably true when Greg Rucka conceived of Tessa and Marius too.
Would I love it if the characters we came up with ended up in a game? Absolutely. But that's never been their true purpose. Vaea and Ser Aaron were designed to have an adventure in Knight Errant, and then follow up on that adventure with a journey into Tevinter that would make them cross paths with new characters like Olivia and Calix.
The Dark Horse and Bioware teams have let us create stories that (when strung together) will give us a complete look at a lot of these characters. Our bigger hope is to keep their journey going in more comics. The games are not really our agenda - all we want to do is play with the world in a way that fits how the team at Bioware need and want it to go.
Lastly, in the page you showed - that IS Olivia and she's doing the narration, talking about Calix, who you can also see on the page. The cover image is also Olivia - she's a con artist and can be anyone she needs to be at any time, given enough time and enough tools. I hope that info helps." I would claim that is very unlikely that we will see the Comic Characters in major roles. Maybe Tessa and Marius but they are for my taste very bland. I don't see how this says that this means they are unlikely to appear in major roles. Most of it is vague usual PR speak since they can't comment about a game that hasn't even been officially announced let alone details of it. It could be true that they won't, and that sucks because I like them far more than any of the ingame characters requested to join the roster, but it also adds evidence that they could since they did say that they collaborated a lot with Bioware with these characters so that goes against a previous argument made for why they wouldn't. To be honest I think Bioware is keeping their options open at this point, seeing if these characters are popular enough to see if they deserve the effort into making them into the game and what role they would have.
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Post by Walter Black on Aug 11, 2018 14:26:41 GMT
Nunzio DeFilippis also made a comment about this topic.
"Since you asked me to comment... I can say that the characters in these miniseries (Vaea, Ser Aaron, Olivia, Calix, plus people like Granger and Marquette in Knight Errant and a couple of others in Deception) were conceived of by me and Christina. But then those concepts were discussed with the Bioware story team and our editors at Dark Horse and visually designed by Fernando with feedback from Bioware. So we "created" them, but not alone.
There's been wonderful collaboration all around here. I can't speak to a Dragon Age 4 - I can't even confirm if there will be a new game. The purpose of these stories and characters is to explore the world of Thedas through the eyes of new characters who add to the lore. This was probably true when Greg Rucka conceived of Tessa and Marius too.
Would I love it if the characters we came up with ended up in a game? Absolutely. But that's never been their true purpose. Vaea and Ser Aaron were designed to have an adventure in Knight Errant, and then follow up on that adventure with a journey into Tevinter that would make them cross paths with new characters like Olivia and Calix.
The Dark Horse and Bioware teams have let us create stories that (when strung together) will give us a complete look at a lot of these characters. Our bigger hope is to keep their journey going in more comics. The games are not really our agenda - all we want to do is play with the world in a way that fits how the team at Bioware need and want it to go.
Lastly, in the page you showed - that IS Olivia and she's doing the narration, talking about Calix, who you can also see on the page. The cover image is also Olivia - she's a con artist and can be anyone she needs to be at any time, given enough time and enough tools. I hope that info helps." I would claim that is very unlikely that we will see the Comic Characters in major roles. Maybe Tessa and Marius but they are for my taste very bland. I don't see how this says that this means they are unlikely to appear in major roles. Most of it is vague usual PR speak since they can't comment about a game that hasn't even been officially announced let alone details of it. It could be true that they won't, and that sucks because I like them far more than any of the ingame characters requested to join the roster, but it also adds evidence that they could since they did say that they collaborated a lot with Bioware with these characters so that goes against a previous argument made for why they wouldn't. To be honest I think Bioware is keeping their options open at this point, seeing if these characters are popular enough to see if they deserve the effort into making them into the game and what role they would have. But WHY do you want them in the game? Familiarity? Comfort? The fact that they are, at least on surface levels, "nicer" and "safer" versions of darker and more complex characters? That you think making them Companions could be a sign that Bioware IS turning the franchise in a lighter and more idealistic direction?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 11, 2018 21:36:10 GMT
I don't see how this says that this means they are unlikely to appear in major roles. Most of it is vague usual PR speak since they can't comment about a game that hasn't even been officially announced let alone details of it. It could be true that they won't, and that sucks because I like them far more than any of the ingame characters requested to join the roster, but it also adds evidence that they could since they did say that they collaborated a lot with Bioware with these characters so that goes against a previous argument made for why they wouldn't. To be honest I think Bioware is keeping their options open at this point, seeing if these characters are popular enough to see if they deserve the effort into making them into the game and what role they would have. But WHY do you want them in the game? Familiarity? Comfort? The fact that they are, at least on surface levels, "nicer" and "safer" versions of darker and more complex characters? That you think making them Companions could be a sign that Bioware IS turning the franchise in a lighter and more idealistic direction? What do you mean when you ask familiarity or comfort?
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Post by isaidlunch on Aug 12, 2018 10:09:25 GMT
There's no way that Harding as a companion is happening. Fan favorite or not, she's a high-ranking member of the Inquisition and would be immediately recognized. You might as well have the PC run around with a neon sign saying "Hi Solas!".
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 12, 2018 11:48:06 GMT
There's no way that Harding as a companion is happening. Fan favorite or not, she's a high-ranking member of the Inquisition and would be immediately recognized. You might as well have the PC run around with a neon sign saying "Hi Solas!". I think it is more likely that if she appears at all it will be as an adviser/link to the Inquisitor. It is also why I would rule out Marius/Tessa because Solas would be well aware of who they are too. Anyone who has played a prominent part with the Inquisition, either in game or in the comics, would not qualify as new people that Solas doesn't know. Vaea and Ser Aeron might just qualify as they only had a connection with the Inquisition after the events of Trepasser. As for Olivia and Calix who knows? They might pop up in connection with the main or a sub-plot without becoming companion material or if there is a war table again they could be mentioned there. If the whole reason for putting the Inquisitor on the side lines is to give us a clean break going into Tevinter, then why not go the whole hog and have a new PC and new companions with familiar faces just being people we encounter along the way?
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Aug 12, 2018 12:25:40 GMT
I don't see how this says that this means they are unlikely to appear in major roles. Most of it is vague usual PR speak since they can't comment about a game that hasn't even been officially announced let alone details of it. Well he could be "lying" but i find his response very honest. A typical PR Answer would more be "Can´t talk about" or "You have to wait" If any of these Comic Characters are Companions or something else Important then are already included in the Game. Especial the Companions with their Tons of Dialogue must fix early on in Development.
I don´t think that Solas have ever paid much attention to a dwarven Lead Scout.
You can also argue that Solas knows a lot about Dorian and his Lucerni Faction. Regardless the Lucerni would be very likely one of the major Factions in DA 4. Well this Part will likely go to Charter.
I see Harding more as the Recruiter of the new Hero and the Connection between DAI and DA 4. She is our Bridge Companion this Time after Oghren, Anders and Varric.
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 12, 2018 15:20:42 GMT
There's no way that Harding as a companion is happening. Fan favorite or not, she's a high-ranking member of the Inquisition and would be immediately recognized. You might as well have the PC run around with a neon sign saying "Hi Solas!". I'm not sure what's the problem? Solas is perfectly aware Inquisition is after him - he's the one who enabled them by saving their collective arses from Qunari and basically told them what he's up to. So even if we assume that Inquisition's plan requires the involvement of people Solas doesn't know, I think it's fairly apparent that there are parts of this cat and mouse game that will be obvious to everyone involved. The rest depends on how the story will be shaped.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 12, 2018 17:13:19 GMT
There's no way that Harding as a companion is happening. Fan favorite or not, she's a high-ranking member of the Inquisition and would be immediately recognized. You might as well have the PC run around with a neon sign saying "Hi Solas!". I'm not sure what's the problem? Solas is perfectly aware Inquisition is after him - he's the one who enabled them by saving their collective arses from Qunari and basically told them what he's up to. So even if we assume that Inquisition's plan requires the involvement of people Solas doesn't know, I think it's fairly apparent that there are parts of this cat and mouse game that will be obvious to everyone involved. The rest depends on how the story will be shaped. Yeah. That's part of why I don't see that line as evidence of the Inquisitor not continuing as the protagonist. Just because they say they'll find people Solas doesn't know doesn't mean that they are going to leave everything to those people.
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