What's with all the Anthem hate?

It's easy to hate EA the now an for YouTubers to get clicks thus money from making videos about them.

BioWare is known for a certain type of game with certain features, Anthem does none of that that we know of.


Personally im looking forward to it an to see BioWares take on the whole MMO-Lite genre so to speak an to top it of its actually got my m8's interested who previously would never have touched a BioWare game, just wasn't there thing.

Yeah I'd say that just about covers it.

Oh good, I'd been hoping that William a.k.a. Your Anthem would pop in.

Some really solid videos from your channel, William, I think it deserves more subs than it has, down to you being a new channel I guess.
I've upgraded this thread to a 'followed channel' like we do with AI BaGGs ' 'Anthem Insider'.
We probably won't have too many of these, just a few of the better quality ones and thanks for coming by.

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And you went for a juicy topic, I think I'll duck for a few pages... 

I'm sure a healthy dose of Dragon Age* will introduce doubt to that confident sounding declaration.

*A series which has completely flipped design philosophy with each iteration (strategic Origins, action sequel, exploration threequel).

I don't think Anthem has been in development that long, my reading and of course its all about interpretation is that Anthem went into development around March 2013 just after Citadel DLC was released which is just before Destiny 1 was released in September 2014.  It is rumored that Destiny development started in 2010 under project name "Tiger".

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I believe in doing new things is the only way to grow and it relates to the ending issues of Mass Effect 3 for me for at times I wonder if it was that they never had any internal decent to what was happening there because over the years it became a form of group think.

Innovative as in mechanics, not necessarily the type of game it is such as your mentioned "multiplayer looter-shooter/live service/microtransaction" game. They are doing a slew of things differently than other games within that typing such as Destiny. Sure this isn't Bioware's usual game type, but whoever said they had to stick to one style of gameplay and never improve or evolve it? At the end of the day, Bioware is a business. If they see a trend that they can implement into their games and do it better than any other game before it? I think they should go for it! Gaming has unfortunately shifted away from the good ol' KOTOR and original Bioware days and moved towards shooters. Bioware has to keep up or they will miss out on maximizing their profits. You have to commend them for sticking to their story-telling roots and character development roots for the most part though. Of course, there are exceptions. But at the end of the day, it is simple business. 

Now, I'm genuinely sorry if you think this is an EA cash grab. I would be on the same page with you if the game had loot boxes, which would have totally turned me off of Anthem. I refuse to support EA loot-box games anymore. However, please refer to my video on microtransactions in Anthem as it might ease your mind in regards to the game being another "EA cash grab." Everything in the in-game store can be earned in-game without any strings attached. Aside from what you pay to get the game, the payments can end there. All in-store items will also be cosmetic only. Will there be people that forgo earning the items in-game and do direct purchases? Absolutely. Where will the money go? I'm sure some will go into Bioware and EA's pockets, but I'm sure they will use it to maintain the live service similar to Warframe. But this is just a guess and not fact. Unfortunately, we live in an age in the gaming world where microtransactions are in almost every major game title. (Games like MHW being the RARE exceptions.) However, as long as you don't buy in-store items, it really doesn't effect you. I'm not defending EA's microtransactions and I'm not defending any game that utilizes this practice, I miss the old days when you bought a game and that was the end of the payments, but this is a decent compromise. Cosmetics only that can be earned through regular gameplay? That sounds a lot better than loot boxes with cosmetics and game enhancements such as xp boosts, weapons, mods, etc that can only be purchased with real money. 

Ultimately, it is up to you whether you want to buy Anthem or not. For people like me it puts a Bioware spin on the oversaturated "multiplayer looter-shooter/live service/microtransaction" genre. I'm looking forward to seeing Bioware's take on this, watch them develop their story, and most of all? Just enjoy playing a game that by every indication is going to be a knock out. 

I remain cautiously optimistic for right now, with a healthy amount of skepticism. Anthem has a good deal of potential to be a solid MMO-lite experience, but this change in direction will undoubtedly alienate some of the mainstream Bioware fanbase. While that can be looked at as a negative, I do think developers need to have majority say over the direction they wish to take their games. I think most of the vocalized hatred surrounding the game is primarily due to feelings of uncertainty. Andromeda left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths, Dragon Age: Inquisition (while reviewed positively overall) was a mixed bag for some fans, and EA's recent controversies and history of studio closures certainly hasn't helped either. With the way initial reception of games like Destiny and The Division turned out, people are worried that Bioware is not only committing the same mistakes in making an MMO-lite game, but that they'll also stray from what made them famous in the first place should Anthem be successful; a claim I don't buy into.

At the end of the day, while I think a majority of gamers who are interested in Anthem are generally excited for the game, I don't think it's wrong to be skeptical of the game either. Skepticism is what helps to keep the developer and publisher in check, and the game will most certainly face criticism upon release; primarily due to likely bugs/balance issues. Outside of people being so gung-ho against developers trying something new, the only other thing that bugs me is people making statements about the game that are false or based on pre-conceived notions. For example, Jon Warner (the games director) has stated numerous times there won't be lootboxes in Anthem, but some spiteful people will still go on to say "there will be lootboxes in Anthem".

Should people feel obligated to like Anthem? No.

Should people have to root for Anthem to succeed? No.

Should people need to give Anthem a chance? Depends. If you aren't interested in Anthem or the genre its in, why would you also care to give it a chance (as you'll never play it anyway)?

Should people be willing to let Anthem's success be based on how complete and worthwhile an experience it is for the genre its in, and not cloud their opinions solely on basal fears and misconceptions? Absolutely.

I don't normally like but this gets a like for a restrained and objective explanation.

Aye, for those who come to Bioware for strong, story driven, singleplayer experiences, Anthem was never likely to appeal. Why the confusion? In any case, very best of luck with the channel William. 

I don't think there is "Anthem hate" - ppl rather express their deep disapproval for Bioware directly. Some see it as the means to watch the company go under.
Me - I don't really care. Show me a finished product and I can tell maybe.

I wonder what the OP would say about Anthem not this topic of maybe not  having Text Chat in Anthem? Maybe Not According to Creative Director - Anthem 

"Anthem News - Anthem Creative Director Brenon Holmes has taken to Reddit to try to explain why the game may not feature any text-based chat channels. The team is facing an FCC deadline to implement accessibility options in game that can include full text-to-speech options. As a result, Anthem will probably exclude even the most basic text chat channels including zone, clan or general."


forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/475068/no-text-chat-in-anthem-maybe-not-according-to-creative-director-anthem-mmorpg-com/p1

I'm not so sure that it is as simple as being associated with EA any more . I think that the fans have stepped back and taken a good hard look at what Bioware has put out over the years and has  come to the conclusion that Bioware is simply dropping the ball. The writing and their creative genius has really taken a hit over the years. They simply are not the Rock Stars of gaming that they had been in the past. And one of the  things I have to back that statement up is that we as fans are getting used to the rumor  that the very future of Bioware is dependent on the success of Anthem. And we as fans are becoming OK with that.