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Post by gangrelbeckett on Aug 6, 2018 15:47:58 GMT
I find it kinda amusing that almost everyone talks only about Solas and that he will be only major Villian in DA 4. Maybe he will be the Endboss but there atleast two other Candidates for Big Baddies.
Archon Radonis and the Ariqun (the former Rasaan from the Comics) Its difficult to to assesses Radonis but the Ariqun appears to me very antagonistic. Also as the Head of the Ben-Hassrath she could be the driving Force behind the Qunari Invasion.
Also i would prefer that she is more the Villian on the Qunari Side rather than new Arishok. I really don´t to be forced to kill Sten.
Is Ariqun a bigger Threat than Solas? Maybe not. Atleast she only wants to conquer Thedas rather than destroying it like Solas.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 6, 2018 18:52:48 GMT
I think it is almost guaranteed we will see Rasaan in the next game. World of Thedas 2 says the following:
"A successor to the Arishok was chosen in 9:34, a sten who had travelled much in non-Qunari lands, and since then Rasaan has been at his side almost constantly. She was most recently seen at the fortress of Akhaaz on Seheron. There are many rumours that the new Arishok is amassing a force of dreadnoughts - perhaps for an eventual invasion. If this is true, it seems likely that the humans of Thedas will soon see a great deal more of Rasaan than they care to."
Well, we know the rumours about invasion were true so I think your wish will be granted. I also think it more likely they will make her the antagonist we have contact with rather than the Arishok simply because we have already fought one Arishok and also to keep his identity a bit more vague for the sake of those people who will argue he died in the cage where they left him.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Aug 6, 2018 19:20:12 GMT
I think it is almost guaranteed we will see Rasaan in the next game. World of Thedas 2 says the following: If this is true, it seems likely that the humans of Thedas will soon see a great deal more of Rasaan than they care to."Thanks. I didn´t know about that. I believe that Bioware will retcon Sten in this case.
Not as bad like Leliana or Anders but Bioware will likely focus on One Arishok.
They can use an replacement but this will only limit the Arishok Screentime.
Also we don´t see Sten actual Death in Origins. Old Videogame Rule if you don´t see a body he/she/it isn´t dead. Duncan may be an exception. Maybe someone else free Sten from his cage. Lame but possible. Same with his Sword. I don´t think that Sten could be appointed to new Arishow without his Sword. So he find his Sword over the years by himself. But i don´t want that this Quest would be equalized. Therefore i would suggest that finding Stens Sword means that we have earned his Respect and that Sten speaks in high volumes about the Warden in DA 4.
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Post by azarhal on Aug 6, 2018 21:06:39 GMT
I don't see the point of reconning Sten just so there can be a pointless mention of the DAO Warden made by an antagonist during a totally unrelated conversation in the next game. They never bothered doing that before.
Beside, like gervaise21 said, the Arishok was a huge part of DA2 main plot, I doubt Bioware has any interest in making another game where he's the point of focus. Rasaan on the other way is all new.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 6, 2018 21:08:38 GMT
I expect the Arishok to show up in a big way. After all, he is the leader of the Qun army which is currently invading Tvinter. If any of the Triumvirate will be appearing, it is him.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Aug 6, 2018 21:29:30 GMT
I don't see the point of reconning Sten just so there can be a pointless mention of the DAO Warden made by an antagonist during a totally unrelated conversation in the next game. They never bothered doing that before. Well it depends of the Situation but could be mentioned in the right Occasions. First its a new Arishok (the former Sten)
Second who said that he is the Villian on the Qunari Side? I could imagine that he is more of a tragic (Anti)Hero than the DA 2 Arishok. Maybe he could be an Ally if choose the Qunari over Tevinter.
Rasaan/Ariqun is more of a Warmonger.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 7, 2018 7:37:13 GMT
I expect the Arishok to show up in a big way. After all, he is the leader of the Qun army which is currently invading Tvinter. If any of the Triumvirate will be appearing, it is him. Rasaan has a very particular role in the Qun. She is essentially the second in command to the Ariqun, having already been nominated as her successor by the rest of the priesthood, and she is the chief advisor to the Arishok on her behalf. She essentially tells the Arishok the will of the Qun and then he finds ways to implement it. Now the current Rasaan was in post during the time of the last Arishok but for some reason was not with him on his mission in the south or when he was shipwrecked in Kirkwall. Had she been there it is possible things might have turned out differently. He was unwilling to ask for aid, thus admitting his original mission had been a failure, and so presumably whatever reason Rasaan had not been required to travel with him remained valid. May be he had told her he didn't need her on what he regarded as a relatively simple task. Whatever the case, Rasaan appears to have come through the episode without her reputation being damaged or suffering any loss of rank. She is now working with an Arishok who is much less volatile and far more open to trying different approaches than the previous one. It was Sten's idea as a young officer to devote more resources to their spy network, infiltrating the enemy and undermining them from within as well as learning important information that would aid in any future invasion. So the current invasion was set up after years of following his plan of action even before he became Arishok. As Rasaan is the chief representative of the Ariqun and it is that branch of the Qun that comprise their diplomats and promoters of propaganda, it is highly likely that he would use her as his mouthpiece in dealing with anyone outside of the Qun as well as within it. So for this reason our first contact with anyone on behalf of the Qun, other than an undercover spy, would likely be her.
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Post by cribbian on Aug 7, 2018 7:41:51 GMT
Is she romancable?
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 7, 2018 12:48:29 GMT
I'd say highly unlikely as the Tamassrans control who people mate with and also any casual sexual activity. As a faithful member of the Qun she would only sleep with someone if it furthered their plans and romance (emotional attachment) would be out of the question, particularly with a bas.
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Post by simit on Aug 7, 2018 13:33:57 GMT
Well consider me converted
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Post by thats1evildude on Aug 7, 2018 18:46:07 GMT
I think the bigger threat is still the dude plotting genocide who can turn people to stone with a thought.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 7, 2018 20:09:44 GMT
I think the bigger threat is still the dude plotting genocide who can turn people to stone with a thought. Yeah. If anything the Qun would be more an ally of ours than an enemy in that fight since they were fighting him before the rest of Thedas even knew his plot.
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Post by thats1evildude on Aug 7, 2018 20:20:52 GMT
I think the bigger threat is still the dude plotting genocide who can turn people to stone with a thought. Yeah. If anything the Qun would be more an ally of ours than an enemy in that fight since they were fighting him before the rest of Thedas even knew his plot. The "choose between Tevinter or the Qun" dilemma that someone posited a while ago seems like a possibility.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Aug 7, 2018 20:43:45 GMT
No but its very likely that we will get another Female Qunari to Romance. The only Question is what do she prefer?
Maybe but don´t underestimate the Qunari and their Technology. They are very powerful and conquered whole Thedas in Past.
Also in my Playthoughs Solas was often down.
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Post by wickedcool on Aug 7, 2018 20:47:32 GMT
Since we know nothing is it possible we might have to choose between saving Sten and saving solas
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Post by TabithaTH on Aug 7, 2018 20:49:34 GMT
Yeah. If anything the Qun would be more an ally of ours than an enemy in that fight since they were fighting him before the rest of Thedas even knew his plot. The "choose between Tevinter or the Qun" dilemma that someone posited a while ago seems like a possibility. I just hope there's going to be an alternative then, since I'm not sure I want to side with either .
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Aug 7, 2018 20:52:08 GMT
I just hope there's going to be an alternative then, since I'm not sure I want to side with either . Well The Fogwarriors (Fenris Faction) could be an alternative.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 7, 2018 21:12:52 GMT
Well The Fogwarriors (Fenris Faction) could be an alternative. My wish list includes joining up with the Fog Warriors and liberating Seheron from both Tevinter and the Qun. I shall be extremely disappointed if I end up having to side with one or the other against the native rebels.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 21:23:33 GMT
This just makes me realise how much I'm missing out on by not reading the books and comics.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Aug 7, 2018 21:31:59 GMT
My wish list includes joining up with the Fog Warriors and liberating Seheron from both Tevinter and the Qun. I shall be extremely disappointed if I end up having to side with one or the other against the native rebels. I agree but they shouldn´t be the pure Good Guys without any Flaws. Tevinter and the Qunari already have both good and bad Advantages but the Fog Warriors? I can´t remember a bad thing.
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Post by thats1evildude on Aug 7, 2018 21:41:24 GMT
The Fog Warriors don’t really have substantive numbers, not on the same scale as the Qunari or Tevinter.
Also in my Playthoughs Solas was often down. That was before his power-up. Did you see how many qunari he personally killed? There were dozens of them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 21:42:25 GMT
The Fog Warriors don’t really have substantive numbers, not on the same scale as the Qunari or Tevinter. True. They almost disappear into the distance.
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Post by thats1evildude on Aug 7, 2018 21:50:07 GMT
I agree but they shouldn´t be the pure Good Guys without any Flaws. Tevinter and the Qunari already have both good and bad Advantages but the Fog Warriors? I can´t remember a bad thing.
Well, according to The Iron Bull the Fog Warriors don’t have any qualms with civilian casualties for example the cook that was killed in an attack he was a part of. I think you're confusing the Tal-Vashoth with the Fog Warriors. Bull's comment on the latter is that they didn't use poison or attack civilians and they were "damn good fighters." Plus, they gave both the Tevinters and qunari an equally hard time.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 7, 2018 21:51:44 GMT
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Post by Lazarillo on Aug 8, 2018 1:24:07 GMT
Nothing would make me happier than Fen'Harel being a subplot and the actual game being about a present-day threat instead of the trite RPG-standard plot of "old evil god wants to destroy the world".
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