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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 2:52:48 GMT
Josie almost ninjamanced Malika in Val Royeaux, but Sera won her back and got revenge (via a bucket of water) with her pranks. Well played, Sera. GOOD!
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Post by Iddy on Apr 12, 2018 12:10:44 GMT
Why don't all casteless go to the surface? It's not like they would be leaving anything behind.
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Post by Walter Black on Apr 12, 2018 19:29:09 GMT
Why don't all casteless go to the surface? It's not like they would be leaving anything behind. The don't wanna fall up?
Even without the obvious superstitions, it's not going to be that easy; most casteless have no clue how to survive topside, how to navigate and forage in forests, how to swim, recognize which animals are predators or prey before it's too late, the fact that most of them can't read, and so on. I was always disappointed that Oghren or any other dwarven exile never had even one comment about adjusting to the sun and day and night cycle*. The only friends or contacts a duster are likely to have are criminals; some might be happy to have extra muscle, but many others would be pissed at losing possible lyrium deals. While humans don't have the same cultural taboos, the only things they know about brands come from surface dwarves who aren't likely to be enlightened or self aware, and will more often than not believe those tales.
*The fact all this was also brushed aside in Dagna's flight to Kinloch Hold (not to mention getting past the darkspawn, the civil war, roving bandits, etc.) lead me to believe that a) whoever wrote her lazily forgot those details, she's being groomed to another Writer's Pet , or c) she was never as "innocent" as most think .
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Post by Iddy on Apr 12, 2018 19:52:00 GMT
Why don't all casteless go to the surface? It's not like they would be leaving anything behind. The don't wanna fall up?
Even without the obvious superstitions, it's not going to be that easy; most casteless have no clue how to survive topside, how to navigate and forage in forests, how to swim, recognize which animals are predators or prey before it's too late, the fact that most of them can't read, and so on. I was always disappointed that Oghren or any other dwarven exile never had even one comment about adjusting to the sun and day and night cycle*. The only friends or contacts a duster are likely to have are criminals; some might be happy to have extra muscle, but many others would be pissed at losing possible lyrium deals. While humans don't have the same cultural taboos, the only things they know about brands come from surface dwarves who aren't likely to be enlightened or self aware, and will more often than not believe those tales.
*The fact all this was also brushed aside in Dagna's flight to Kinloch Hold (not to mention getting past the darkspawn, the civil war, roving bandits, etc.) lead me to believe that a) whoever wrote her lazily forgot those details, she's being groomed to another Writer's Pet , or c) she was never as "innocent" as most think .
Or d) No living being would have the heart to attack someone who's that cute.
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Post by Walter Black on Apr 12, 2018 20:22:07 GMT
The don't wanna fall up?
Even without the obvious superstitions, it's not going to be that easy; most casteless have no clue how to survive topside, how to navigate and forage in forests, how to swim, recognize which animals are predators or prey before it's too late, the fact that most of them can't read, and so on. I was always disappointed that Oghren or any other dwarven exile never had even one comment about adjusting to the sun and day and night cycle*. The only friends or contacts a duster are likely to have are criminals; some might be happy to have extra muscle, but many others would be pissed at losing possible lyrium deals. While humans don't have the same cultural taboos, the only things they know about brands come from surface dwarves who aren't likely to be enlightened or self aware, and will more often than not believe those tales.
*The fact all this was also brushed aside in Dagna's flight to Kinloch Hold (not to mention getting past the darkspawn, the civil war, roving bandits, etc.) lead me to believe that a) whoever wrote her lazily forgot those details, she's being groomed to another Writer's Pet , or c) she was never as "innocent" as most think .
Or d) No living being would have the heart to attack someone who's that cute. Says you, my Fem Aeducan was way cuter than Dagna, cuter than sunshine and rainbows, cuter than a kitten sleeping in Grandma's lovingly knitted Christmas sweater !
It didn't save her ....
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Post by Sifr on Apr 13, 2018 2:47:37 GMT
Why don't all casteless go to the surface? It's not like they would be leaving anything behind. Because sometimes, for seemingly no reason at all, water falls from the sky.What is that about? Why is the sky leaking? And why is no-one freaked out about this!
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Post by Iddy on Apr 18, 2018 14:29:47 GMT
I enjoyed the conversation with Kardol, the leader of the Legion of the Dead in DAO.
He is basically like "Oh, the surface is having darkspawn problems? That's adorable. Down here, we just call it wednesday."
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Post by Iddy on Apr 26, 2018 16:33:13 GMT
She looks awesome and her chubby face is perfect for cosplaying dwarves.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Apr 28, 2018 14:42:15 GMT
I'm playing through DAO again and am at the dwarven choice. My Warden is a non-dwarf, although I have played through both the noble and common origins before (Aeducan was my very first character).
I would like your various perspectives for choosing Harrowmont or Behlen. I'd also request that the meta information of the epilogue NOT factor in to the discussion; that information is NOT known to our Warden and so I don't believe that should factor into any roleplay choice. (I don't care what an individual player does in their own play, but the meta doesn't factor into my own choice.)
As mentioned, I'm playing a non-dwarf, a Cousland, so I can't go by anything other than what is presented to me when going to Orzammar later in the game. I try very hard to play it out through roleplay: my Warden doesn't want to get involved*, talks to both of the reps, talks to every NPC available in the common areas (I don't go around picking locks, etc), and then makes a decision as a last resort.
In talking with various people, it just doesn't seem like Behlen is a good choice. Most people seem to think that Behlen is all about Behlen, his own power. Talking with his man and learning about that first task just leaves me with a skeevy feeling; he wants to do something underhanded, while Harrowmont's man only requires that I win the Proving (while also learning about the intimidation and extortion of the Harrowmont fighters). That is what I base my choice on.
I don't like the idea of working with one guy and then choosing someone else at the end, so I make my choice at that point and stick with it.
* To go along with this, I head to Orzammar early on, find out about these problems and learn that the Assembly is deadlocked, and leave to go do another plot area with the idea to give them more time to decide. This would be several weeks of time, so it seems reasonable to me.
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Post by vertigomez on Apr 30, 2018 16:02:12 GMT
Nightscrawl If I were playing a Cousland - especially one that really doesn't want to get involved in the first place - I'd go with Harrowmont. After what happened to your family in Highever, I imagine Warden Cousland would have little patience for a power-hungry kin-slaying snake like Bhelen. And if you're reluctant to get involved in the first place, then the King's named heir is a shoe-in. On top of that, Harrowmont is great at playing up the doddering old man angle, and he's a traditionalist which may or may not appeal to a fellow nobleman.
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Post by vertigomez on May 3, 2018 23:39:48 GMT
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 4, 2018 0:31:18 GMT
^ Love the way her hair is done there. I don't normally like long hair for practical reasons, but that just looks so fantastic and dwarfy! If I were playing a Cousland - especially one that really doesn't want to get involved in the first place - I'd go with Harrowmont. I was mainly wondering about other people's rationale for choosing Behlen (as non-dwarf), given everything I mentioned. Harrowmont was a forgone conclusion for me. DA dwarf is the non-human race I have the most interest in. I really can't give a damn about elves or qunari. (DA4 ought to be fun for me... lol.)
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Post by vertigomez on May 4, 2018 0:54:29 GMT
^ Love the way her hair is done there. I don't normally like long hair for practical reasons, but that just looks so fantastic and dwarfy! I wish we'd get quality dwarfy-looking elaborate braids! Ah, I see what you mean. In that case it's probably more about how investigative your character is and what their values are. You have to do some digging to see the full extent of Bhelen's scumminess and any of his virtues. A city elf might sympathize with the plight of the casteless and see Harrowmont as part of the problem, a blood mage who sold Connor to the desire demon might admire Bhelen's ambition, a Cousland might believe that it's all in the blood and that Bhelen's lineage trumps Harrowmont's claim to the throne. Well, I imagine there will be pleeeeenty of humans and hopefully a good number of dwarves if we're going to Tevinter.
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Post by vertigomez on May 5, 2018 1:06:50 GMT
brb, crying over thorold and mae
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Post by cespar on May 6, 2018 21:58:30 GMT
Just started an Aeducan in origins for my Dragon Age series run. I think I'll romance Morrigan with him, since my main Brosca romanced Leliana. I am in Lothering right now and I forgot how much they mentioned my character as a dwarf.
I am having fun all over again and plus I get to read all of the dwarven codex.
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Post by Sifr on May 7, 2018 13:33:38 GMT
Or what if Aloy from HZD was a dwarf?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 7, 2018 17:36:08 GMT
My non-dwarf Wardens side with Bhelen because of how bad they see the situation is with the castes and especially the casteless so they want to change that meaning siding with Bhelen since Harrowmont won’t. Even the Human Noble fits this since we are told unlike some nobility our house has a reputation for kindness towards those other nobles May deem below them, like the elven servants. And obviously the Elves and Mage backgrounds would want to change that. As for my Dwarf origins. Dwarf Noble sides with Harrowmont because of what Bhelen did to them and my Dwarf Commoner sides with Bhelen for the reasons above as well as because of their sister.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 7, 2018 18:15:15 GMT
My non-dwarf Wardens side with Bhelen because of how bad they see the situation is with the castes and especially the casteless so they want to change that meaning siding with Bhelen since Harrowmont won’t. Even the Human Noble fits this since we are told unlike some nobility our house has a reputation for kindness towards those other nobles May deem below them, like the elven servants. But I didn't see any evidence that Behlen is truly interested in changing things for the better for the castless as a whole. It's meta information for me, since I didn't encounter her in my play, but I barely count his involvement with Rica. Having a castless lover, or even marrying one, doesn't mean he cares about changing the system for all castless.
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Post by vertigomez on May 8, 2018 0:46:51 GMT
Favorite romance for a casteless Warden, either gender, hit me.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 8, 2018 0:59:39 GMT
Here's a question. (I suppose I could check myself pretty easily, since it's at the beginning, but I'm lazy.)
If you play a fem Aeducan, there are optional dialogue lines suggesting that you and Gorim might have talked at one time about starting something, but then considered it unwise. Do those lines present for the male Aeducan as well?
While it's never mentioned, that I've observed, I'd think that the dwarf nobility would have similar views on homosexuality as the Tevinter altus. They're so desperate for new blood that they tolerate noble hunters and the very real possibility that an entire lowborn family might be raised to nobility. I find it difficult to believe that homosexuality would be tolerated.
The only example that we have is Branka/Hespith, but that is hardly addressed with everything else going on. (I never take the dialogue option "A lover in the dark. No wonder she left Oghren," because I think it's uncouth to say that with him right there, so I don't know what, if any, response there is.)
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Post by vertigomez on May 8, 2018 1:18:54 GMT
Here's a question. (I suppose I could check myself pretty easily, since it's at the beginning, but I'm lazy.) If you play a fem Aeducan, there are optional dialogue lines suggesting that you and Gorim might have talked at one time about starting something, but then considered it unwise. Do those lines present for the male Aeducan as well? While it's never mentioned, that I've observed, I'd think that the dwarf nobility would have similar views on homosexuality as the Tevinter altus. They're so desperate for new blood that they tolerate noble hunters and the very real possibility that an entire lowborn family might be raised to nobility. I find it difficult to believe that homosexuality would be tolerated. The only example that we have is Branka/Hespith, but that is hardly addressed with everything else going on. (I never take the dialogue option "A lover in the dark. No wonder she left Oghren," because I think it's uncouth to say that with him right there, so I don't know what, if any, response there is.) Alas, there's no indication that Lord Aeducan and Gorim have any sort of romantic relationship. And I agree with you that dwarven nobles are probably plagued with some of the same issues as the Tevinter elite. Possibly it's worse, considering how low the birth rate is and how much pressure there is to reproduce... It's probably acceptable to have a lover on the side, though, like with Branka and Hespith. Even Oghren says something like, "If I knew she felt that way..." (in an understanding tone, not a creepy one). And if you're playing a male dwarf commoner, when you come back to Orzammar (presumably wearing nicer gear), your alcoholic mother will say, "did the prince decide he likes boys, or did you find some other way to bring in coin?" So I'm sure it's acceptable for gay dwarves to have "kept men" similar to female concubines.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 8, 2018 2:28:17 GMT
vertigomez Thanks! I've only ever done a single full dwarf run, and that was with the fem Aeducan mentioned, back on DAO's release in 2009. [edit] And booo about the Gorim thing. That would have been awesome. I like having that as part of my headcanon for Aeducan.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 8, 2018 3:59:01 GMT
I think they didn't do a male Aeducan/Gorim thing because those resources went into the noble hunters Mardy and Teli, especially Mardy since if you sleep with her you have a son and there is a side quest to help them.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 8, 2018 3:59:41 GMT
Favorite romance for a casteless Warden, either gender, hit me. Leliana. Though she is my answer for any of the origins really.
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