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Post by Catilina on Dec 11, 2018 17:47:31 GMT
that picture is sfw. There is nothing inappropriate about it. It a picture of tribesmen standing for a picture. All nudity isn't bad, it's sexual nudity that crosses into NSFW status. You do realize NSFW includes simply nudity sometimes, right? It doesn't matter if it's anthropology or checking Netter's anatomy for phimosis, some places don't care.
Anyway, you guys are exaggerating what was nothing. Go back to discuss muscle definition from native tribes. ffs
David sculpture is NSFW?
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 11, 2018 17:53:17 GMT
Just put the male genitalia in spoilers, no reason to delete it though. Nudity =/= sexually explicit or sexually suggestive, but it's still in good manners to put them in spoilers because as we see from this thread, not all people think the same, and one of those people could be your ignorant boss. In the end, not safe for work means not safe to browse while in work.
Close your browser though, get back to work.
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Post by llandwynwyn on Dec 11, 2018 18:01:38 GMT
You do realize NSFW includes simply nudity sometimes, right? It doesn't matter if it's anthropology or checking Netter's anatomy for phimosis, some places don't care.
Anyway, you guys are exaggerating what was nothing. Go back to discuss muscle definition from native tribes. ffs
Operative word here. Like I said the first time, all nudity isn't bad. Dude, I'm brazilian, carioca from the land of Carnival, and I've seen more nudity than probably anyone here since I was a child. Plus, I've being paid to touch strangers' genitals for work as a nurse . Nudity isn't the problem, nor did I imply it was bad; is the when and why. I wasn't expecting to see genitals when I opened this thread (which is about the next DA4 protagonist, not some anatomy discussion) and I bet it was the same for most people. Just drop your defenses, they aren't needed and you were not reported if that's what you are worried about. You do realize NSFW includes simply nudity sometimes, right? It doesn't matter if it's anthropology or checking Netter's anatomy for phimosis, some places don't care.
Anyway, you guys are exaggerating what was nothing. Go back to discuss muscle definition from native tribes. ffs
David sculpture is NSFW? Wow, totally the same thing. Classical art, that is recognized by the entire world = real people anatomy. You got me.
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Post by theascendent on Dec 11, 2018 18:10:32 GMT
So what kind of Origin do you think our new PC will be interested in. I've an idea for a slave origin, but we choose what we did before gaining our freedom. We must also limit certain options depending on race and class, as Tevinter puts more emphasis on one's race and origin. Here's a rough idea if what I am thinking. Human: Gladiator Human Mage: Prospective apprentice for a more progressive Magister. Elf: Member of the thieves guild or household slave/secret spy. Elf Mage: Same as human Mage. Dwarf: Member of the Ambassadoria. Dwarves are traditionally not kept as slaves by Tevinter society so this would have to be an exception. Qunari and Qunari Mage: Same as human. I highly doubt any sane or even the most tolerant Magister would take the risk of a Qunari Mage, especially given the current political climate. Not perfect I know. Anyone else have any thoughts.
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So what kind of Origin do you think our new PC will be interested in. I've an idea for a slave origin, but we choose what we did before gaining our freedom. We must also limit certain options depending on race and class, as Tevinter puts more emphasis on one's race and origin. Here's a rough idea if what I am thinking. Human: Gladiator Human Mage: Prospective apprentice for a more progressive Magister. Elf: Member of the thieves guild or household slave/secret spy. Elf Mage: Same as human Mage. Dwarf: Member of the Ambassadoria. Dwarves are traditionally not kept as slaves by Tevinter society so this would have to be an exception. Qunari and Qunari Mage: Same as human. I highly doubt any sane or even the most tolerant Magister would take the risk of a Qunari Mage, especially given the current political climate. Not perfect I know. Anyone else have any thoughts. I was thinking something kind of similar. I would love to see origins return. It allows the racial and class choices to feel like they have more weight.
Slave makes sense for all of them but dwarves, which throws a wrench into the plans.
I was thinking:
Human warrior/rogue - non-magic member of an altus family (this way you are still disenfranchised)
Human mage - laetan mage (i.e. the first magical member in a non-magical family), so again you don't have too much power Elf warrior/rogue - household slave or recently freed slave with little prospects Elf mage - slave sent to the Circle for training Dwarf (any class) - low ranking member of the Ambassadoria looking to move up in the ranks Qunari (any class) - mercenary and Tal-Vashoth (I know it's similar to the DA:I background, but there are very few feasible options for qunari)
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Dec 11, 2018 18:20:12 GMT
So what kind of Origin do you think our new PC will be interested in. I've an idea for a slave origin, but we choose what we did before gaining our freedom. We must also limit certain options depending on race and class, as Tevinter puts more emphasis on one's race and origin. Here's a rough idea if what I am thinking. Human: Gladiator Human Mage: Prospective apprentice for a more progressive Magister. Elf: Member of the thieves guild or household slave/secret spy. Elf Mage: Same as human Mage. Dwarf: Member of the Ambassadoria. Dwarves are traditionally not kept as slaves by Tevinter society so this would have to be an exception. Qunari and Qunari Mage: Same as human. I highly doubt any sane or even the most tolerant Magister would take the risk of a Qunari Mage, especially given the current political climate. Not perfect I know. Anyone else have any thoughts. I actually like your options
I myself am at least hoping for a Magister origin (or something akin to it, so apprentice...I can life with that )
as for Elves and Qunari...well, Fog Warriors and Tal-Vashoth come to mind I know the Qunari Inquisitor is Tal-Vashoth but we haven't actually played a Tal-Vashoth (at least Iron Bull doesn't view the Inquisitor as such) I wonder what it'd be like to play a character who has just deflected from the Qun, or maybe even have it as an option during the Origin to become Tal-Vashoth
And Fog Warriors have fascinated me ever since Fenris' dialogue introduced them to us, I mean...we hardly know anything about them in fact, do we even know what race(s) they are encompassed of? The Wikia says they're Freedom Fighters, but their actual race(s) are never mentioned
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Post by 10k on Dec 11, 2018 18:26:53 GMT
I would like to play a Dalish elf with a tribe. If he must be a slave then he could be a recently captured one. But the elf must be Dalish.
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 11, 2018 18:29:31 GMT
I'd like to play an elf who takes a shit on all things Dalish.
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Post by llandwynwyn on Dec 11, 2018 18:34:47 GMT
So what kind of Origin do you think our new PC will be interested in. I've an idea for a slave origin, but we choose what we did before gaining our freedom. We must also limit certain options depending on race and class, as Tevinter puts more emphasis on one's race and origin. Here's a rough idea if what I am thinking. Human: Gladiator Human Mage: Prospective apprentice for a more progressive Magister. Elf: Member of the thieves guild or household slave/secret spy. Elf Mage: Same as human Mage. Dwarf: Member of the Ambassadoria. Dwarves are traditionally not kept as slaves by Tevinter society so this would have to be an exception. Qunari and Qunari Mage: Same as human. I highly doubt any sane or even the most tolerant Magister would take the risk of a Qunari Mage, especially given the current political climate. Not perfect I know. Anyone else have any thoughts. I sadly can't see proper origins returning, for real, unless BW wants to really please us. They try to always give some differences here and there, but they get superficial by each game (how cool to have your clan dead by a mission text table, right), so I think I'm a the point I'd rather they put some generic origin and don't acknowledge it in game so I can create my own background. That said, I like your ideas, they'd really work if BW gave them time, like in DAO, or to create a ramified main quest. Say we play as a spy and we have to infiltrate those groups in a mission, and our race/class would be the deciding factor on what branch we'd have to follow.
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 11, 2018 18:38:09 GMT
So what kind of Origin do you think our new PC will be interested in. I've an idea for a slave origin, but we choose what we did before gaining our freedom. We must also limit certain options depending on race and class, as Tevinter puts more emphasis on one's race and origin. Here's a rough idea if what I am thinking. Human: Gladiator Human Mage: Prospective apprentice for a more progressive Magister. Elf: Member of the thieves guild or household slave/secret spy. Elf Mage: Same as human Mage. Dwarf: Member of the Ambassadoria. Dwarves are traditionally not kept as slaves by Tevinter society so this would have to be an exception. Qunari and Qunari Mage: Same as human. I highly doubt any sane or even the most tolerant Magister would take the risk of a Qunari Mage, especially given the current political climate. Not perfect I know. Anyone else have any thoughts. I sadly can't see proper origins returning, for real, unless BW wants to really please us. They try to always give some differences here and there, but they get superficial by each game (how cool to have your clan dead by a mission text table, right), so I think I'm a the point I'd rather they put some generic origin and don't acknowledge it in game so I can create my own background. That said, I like your ideas, they'd really work if BW gave them time, like in DAO, or to create a ramified main quest. Say we play as a spy and we have to infiltrate those groups in a mission, and our race/class would be the deciding factor on what branch we'd have to follow.
In terms of being handed out a completely mediocre and ultimately irrelevant origin or not being given an origin at all, I'd rather take having no origin. At least then I can be whatever I want to be.
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Post by llandwynwyn on Dec 11, 2018 18:39:07 GMT
I would like to play a Dalish elf with a tribe. If he must be a slave then he could be a recently captured one. But the elf must be Dalish. If BW denies us a dalish protagonist in the game we'll face off the Dread Wolf, then they are the biggest dick in the industry.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 11, 2018 19:09:33 GMT
I would like to play a Dalish elf with a tribe. If he must be a slave then he could be a recently captured one. But the elf must be Dalish. You can bbe a Dalish Elf if we continue as the Inquisitor.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 11, 2018 19:15:02 GMT
If we get a new protagonist in TDWR, I honestly doubt they’ll go for similar background as in DAI, expecially since we can explore completely new ones. So I doubt an elven PC would be dalish in that case.
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Post by aesir on Dec 11, 2018 19:24:12 GMT
How cool would if be if the Inquisitor is our boss.
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 11, 2018 19:26:04 GMT
I know people want their human, dwarves and qunari, but I'm not off elven-only protagonist. Instead of four different races, give me four different elven origins (dalish, city, ancient, (fog warrior)), an extensive CC with different body types available. And retcon elves not being able to have beards. I'd be fine with that.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 11, 2018 19:26:48 GMT
How cool would if be if the Inquisitor is our boss. Considering how previous protagonists have been butchered when turned into NPCs, not cool at all.
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Post by jadedragon on Dec 11, 2018 19:28:59 GMT
For new PC origins.
Humans I would like to see the origins flipped. Mages are now the proper human nobles while Warriors and Rogues are from the average family.
Elves Back to city elves.
Dwarf Ambassdor
Qunari either start in the Qun but leave it by the end of the Origin or Slave in the Grand Proving as a gladiator attraction.
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Post by leadintea on Dec 11, 2018 19:30:55 GMT
If origins return, I'd really hope that there'd be an origin for noble human characters. It'd be a change of pace to actually play a mage that's on top of society from the beginning of the game as well as see how non-mage nobles are treated in Tevinter, especially if they have a mage sibling or something like that. I'm also hoping for this because I tend to like insufferable, pompous nobles and it'd be fun to play as one, IMO, especially if you have a wise-cracking slave to bounce witty banter off of.
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Post by 10k on Dec 11, 2018 19:33:11 GMT
I know people want their human, dwarves and qunari, but I'm not off elven-only protagonist. Instead of four different races, give me four different elven origins (dalish, city, ancient, (fog warrior)), an extensive CC with different body types available. And retcon elves not being able to have beards. I'd be fine with that. No, please no. I like only playing elf, but not everyone like playing an elf. See DA2, not everyone liked playing human. Race picking should still remain. Now if this was ME well...Humanity first all the way.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 11, 2018 19:34:12 GMT
I would like to play a Dalish elf with a tribe. If he must be a slave then he could be a recently captured one. But the elf must be Dalish. If BW denies us a dalish protagonist in the game we'll face off the Dread Wolf, then they are the biggest dick in the industry.
Eh, I don't think so. In DA2 we went to a primeval thaig as a human and not a dwarf, and it's not like city elves won't have a vested interest in stopping/helping the ancient elven god-king as they see fit. - I think it would be neat if we were all "connected" to the same house - like, the human PC would be from a certain family in Tevinter, dwarven PC is their trading partner/contact in the Ambassadoria, elven PC is a slave or servant (depending on how progressive they are...), qunari PC could likewise be a newly acquired "purchase" from Seheron or something. That way we can start in the same place with similar connections, but still have distinct backgrounds.
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Post by phoray on Dec 11, 2018 19:40:55 GMT
I think everyone starting as a slave (regardless of magical status) so we can all share the same Origin (cuz money) would be excellent.
Then we rebel nobly or to sieze power for ourselves (allowing altruistic or evil role play FTW) which gets us the attention of -important people-.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 19:50:10 GMT
I know people want their human, dwarves and qunari, but I'm not off elven-only protagonist. Instead of four different races, give me four different elven origins (dalish, city, ancient, (fog warrior)), an extensive CC with different body types available. And retcon elves not being able to have beards. I'd be fine with that. Worst case scenario for me. Even if they allow me to create a hairy bearded muscle-bound elf (like in Skyrim), elf-only isn't my jam. And, realistically, they wouldn't do the body/hair issues correctly. Single race options suck. But elf would be the worst for me. I'd make do, of course. But I would vote against with all my (tiny shriveled blackened) heart. But I support your right to want this. I think everyone starting as a slave (regardless of magical status) so we can all share the same Origin (cuz money) would be excellent. Then we rebel nobly or to sieze power for ourselves (allowing altruistic or evil role play FTW) which gets us the attention of -important people-. The only hiccup in this is that the lore does state that dwarves aren't typically slaves in Tevinter. I don't think it says "never are slaves", so it's possible to work it out. But it would definitely be very odd to be a dwarf slave. It's part of the allegiance between Tevinter and Kal-Sharok. Even surface dwarves would be odd to see. Maybe they wouldn't care if you were casteless?
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Post by Heimdall on Dec 11, 2018 20:09:04 GMT
If BW denies us a dalish protagonist in the game we'll face off the Dread Wolf, then they are the biggest dick in the industry.
Eh, I don't think so. In DA2 we went to a primeval thaig as a human and not a dwarf, and it's not like city elves won't have a vested interest in stopping/helping the ancient elven god-king as they see fit. - I think it would be neat if we were all "connected" to the same house - like, the human PC would be from a certain family in Tevinter, dwarven PC is their trading partner/contact in the Ambassadoria, elven PC is a slave or servant (depending on how progressive they are...), qunari PC could likewise be a newly acquired "purchase" from Seheron or something. That way we can start in the same place with similar connections, but still have distinct backgrounds. My hope After a bit of a preamble, we could then have the city attacked by the Qunari and the Inquisition offer us a way out as a way of equalizing things.
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 11, 2018 20:31:56 GMT
If BW denies us a dalish protagonist in the game we'll face off the Dread Wolf, then they are the biggest dick in the industry.
Eh, I don't think so. In DA2 we went to a primeval thaig as a human and not a dwarf, and it's not like city elves won't have a vested interest in stopping/helping the ancient elven god-king as they see fit. - I think it would be neat if we were all "connected" to the same house - like, the human PC would be from a certain family in Tevinter, dwarven PC is their trading partner/contact in the Ambassadoria, elven PC is a slave or servant (depending on how progressive they are...), qunari PC could likewise be a newly acquired "purchase" from Seheron or something. That way we can start in the same place with similar connections, but still have distinct backgrounds. It would be pretty meh if qunari and elves were forced to be downtrodden slaves.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 11, 2018 20:33:07 GMT
If they aren't doing the Inquisitor as a returning protagonist because of tradition, I don't see why everyone thinks they'll break the other tradition of the protagonist always being an outsider.
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