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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Oct 21, 2019 15:47:23 GMT
So after this recent news Bioware really should include Maevaris as major character and hopeful companion in DA 4. I would love to see her because she appears to be an interessing character and unlike a new transgender character she is already well established in the Dragon Age Series. www.pcgamesn.com/mass-effect/non-binary
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Post by arvaarad on Oct 21, 2019 17:07:20 GMT
So after this recent news Bioware really should include Maevaris as major character and hopeful companion in DA 4. I would love to see her because she appears to be an interessing character and unlike a new transgender character she is already well established in the Dragon Age Series. www.pcgamesn.com/mass-effect/non-binaryThat article is really encouraging. I hope DA4 includes those options for player characters... even though I suspect the weeks after that kind of announcement would be especially shitty. Internet’s gonna internet. I see lots of people getting super attached to their PCs, and I really don’t. In the past, I’ve always put that down to different RP styles. I just like exploring things I would never do in real life! But lately I’ve been wondering if I feel detached because it’s impossible to make someone like me. I feel a lot more pressure to make morally good decisions when I’m playing tabletop RPGs, where it’s much easier to roll up a nonbinary character. They end up taking on more of my real personality, and maybe I get a glimpse of that personal attachment that some DA players feel toward their characters. I still think the detached, I’m-making-a-good-story-not-a-good-person style of RP is fun, but it would be cool to have the option of more involved/personal RP.
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Post by Iddy on Oct 21, 2019 17:40:52 GMT
I'd sooner expect Maevaris to be a character you meet often because of his important role in the plot, but ultimately isn't a companion. I figure magisters are too important to be running around in the dirt and killing bandits.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Oct 21, 2019 17:58:52 GMT
I'd sooner expect Maevaris to be a character you meet often because of his important role in the plot, but ultimately isn't a companion. I figure magisters are too important to be running around in the dirt and killing bandits. I hope that was a typo...
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Post by Nightscrawl on Oct 21, 2019 18:03:43 GMT
So after this recent news Bioware really should include Maevaris as major character I honestly have never thought that Mae wouldn't be in the game in some capacity. I'm 100% sure she will be. Whether she is also a follower is another matter and depends on many factors, including the plot and lineup of other followers.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Oct 21, 2019 21:04:29 GMT
I'd sooner expect Maevaris to be a character you meet often because of his important role in the plot, but ultimately isn't a companion. I figure magisters are too important to be running around in the dirt and killing bandits. You can say the samething about Cassandra and Vivienne but they were still companions in DAI. Also she is an outcast / rebel Magister who lost recently her hometown Ventus in a war to the Qunari. So after this event i don´t see any reason why Maevaris alongside Lace Harding and Calpernia shouldn´t be a companion.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 21, 2019 21:25:21 GMT
I'd sooner expect Maevaris to be a character you meet often because of his important role in the plot, but ultimately isn't a companion. I figure magisters are too important to be running around in the dirt and killing bandits. You can say the samething about Cassandra and Vivienne but they were still companions in DAI. Also she is an outcast / rebel Magister who lost recently her hometown Ventus in a war to the Qunari. So after this event i don´t see any reason why Maevaris alongside Lace Harding and Calpernia shouldn´t be a companion.
I’d much rather have Francesca than Calpernia for that slot. Has all the pros Calpernia would give and none of the cons. As for Maevaris, I still get the feeling she will be something like our advisers in DAI: not a companion but just as crucial to our mission.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Oct 21, 2019 21:49:29 GMT
I’d much rather have Francesca than Calpernia for that slot. Has all the pros Calpernia would give and none of the cons. As for Maevaris, I still get the feeling she will be something like our advisers in DAI: not a companion but just as crucial to our mission. I prefer for companions characters who were already in the game or in Maevaris case were mentioned. I know you would love to see almost all new comic series characters as companions but i don´t like it because the games should come first and not another media you have to buy to unterstand the current gamestory. As sidecharacters they can work.
And for Calpernia again game character and yeah i want to see her pros and cons thats make her a lot more interessing to me than this Francesca which the average DA 4 player will likely won´t know because he/she hasn´t any knowledge of this comic series. Of course most players DAI had picked the mages and won´t have met Calpernia but its more than Francesca. Edit: Maybe Francesca is a lot more sympathic character than Calpernia but i believe that all of companions
shouldn´t well liked but interessing. Of course DA4 will likely have Harding as new Varric which can´t possible be hated
but DA 4 should also have their new Fenris, Anders or Vivienne.
Last but not least Maevaris well we need only one Lucerni Leader as advisor and this should be Dorian and not Maevaris. Basically Maevaris is new Cassandra and Dorian is the new Leliana in DA 4.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 21, 2019 22:00:49 GMT
I’d much rather have Francesca than Calpernia for that slot. Has all the pros Calpernia would give and none of the cons. As for Maevaris, I still get the feeling she will be something like our advisers in DAI: not a companion but just as crucial to our mission. I prefer for companions characters who were already in the game or in Maevaris case were mentioned. I know you would love to see almost all new comic series characters as companions but i don´t like it because the games should come first and not another media you have to buy to unterstand the current gamestory. As sidecharacters they can work.
And for Calpernia again game character and yeah i want to see her pros and cons thats make her a lot more interessing to me than this Francesca which the average DA 4 player will likely won´t know because he/she hasn´t any knowledge of this comic series. Of course most players DAI had picked the mages and won´t have met Calpernia but its more than Francesca.
Last but not least Maevaris well we need only one Lucerni Leader as advisor and this should be Dorian and not Maevaris. Basically Maevaris is new Cassandra and Dorian is the new Leliana in DA 4.
Not almost all of them. Only two really with Vaea and Francesca. Aaron, Tessa, Marius, and Calix could all just be NPCs. I don't see why Calpernia being in the game makes her above non-game characters, since she only has a few minutes of screentime and practically all of her development isn't in the game but in other media you have to buy to understand. I thought you said that they shouldn't use characters like that? So fine don't want the current comic characters, but then you need to be against Calpernia and Maevaris as well since it's the same boat. I don't think Dorian will be a part of the main roster. An important character certainly, but not the center. Plus if he was, that's way too many Tevinter magisters in the limited slots.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Oct 21, 2019 22:15:51 GMT
Not almost all of them. Only two really with Vaea and Francesca. Aaron, Tessa, Marius, and Calix could all just be NPCs. Or not. I don´t see Vaea and Francesca as companions if we also have Harding and Calpernia. And Vaea & Harding are in my opinion too similiar in personalty. Two nice rogues. Sorry i prefer Lace Harding over Vaea. And Calpernia is as former villian more interessing. At least for me who don´t like that all characters are likeable.
You can read Calpernias backstory for free. And her appearance in Magekiller with this kiss scene isn´t that important.
Calpernia is like DAO Isabela, Merrill or DA2 Merrill before in their actual game scenes enough established as character.
And Maevaris well to be honest she is more of a comic character like the new ones but she mentioned more than enough in Trespasser to be considered as interessing candidate for the DA 4 companions.
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Post by arvaarad on Oct 21, 2019 22:50:47 GMT
I prefer for companions characters who were already in the game or in Maevaris case were mentioned. I know you would love to see almost all new comic series characters as companions but i don´t like it because the games should come first and not another media you have to buy to unterstand the current gamestory. As sidecharacters they can work.
And for Calpernia again game character and yeah i want to see her pros and cons thats make her a lot more interessing to me than this Francesca which the average DA 4 player will likely won´t know because he/she hasn´t any knowledge of this comic series. Of course most players DAI had picked the mages and won´t have met Calpernia but its more than Francesca.
Last but not least Maevaris well we need only one Lucerni Leader as advisor and this should be Dorian and not Maevaris. Basically Maevaris is new Cassandra and Dorian is the new Leliana in DA 4.
Not almost all of them. Only two really with Vaea and Francesca. Aaron, Tessa, Marius, and Calix could all just be NPCs. I don't see why Calpernia being in the game makes her above non-game characters, since she only has a few minutes of screentime and practically all of her development isn't in the game but in other media you have to buy to understand. I thought you said that they shouldn't use characters like that? So fine don't want the current comic characters, but then you need to be against Calpernia and Maevaris as well since it's the same boat. I don't think Dorian will be a part of the main roster. An important character certainly, but not the center. Plus if he was, that's way too many Tevinter magisters in the limited slots. Yeah I suspect Dorian won’t be a companion. He’s (1) extremely busy and (2) out of the running as an LI due to the potential relationship with the Inquisitor. Neither are disqualifying but they do seem to lean toward “present, but probably not in the main roster.”
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Post by Nightscrawl on Oct 22, 2019 2:57:55 GMT
out of the running as an LI due to the potential relationship with the Inquisitor As much as I love him, I'm not rooting for Dorian to be a follower. However, this criterion doesn't hold much significance. There are always some followers who are not LI. If anything, he would take over the Varric slot of being a carry-over follower who is not a LI. If they have another gay male, who is a LI, that's just more gay rep, which is fine by me. And unlike some cynical people, I don't believe that Dorian's presence automatically precludes them adding another gay follower.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 22, 2019 18:02:44 GMT
And Maevaris well to be honest she is more of a comic character like the new ones but she mentioned more than enough in Trespasser to be considered as interessing candidate for the DA 4 companions. In DAI Maevaris is only known through the War Table, plus a codex and one epilogue screen in Trespasser. These do not hint at the complexity of this character or her backstory, for which you need to have read the comic series and/or her entry in WoT2. If they do include Mae as a companion, I hope they will not assume people are aware of this background, so introduce and develop her character as though there is no prior knowledge, apart from perhaps the fact that she was joint founder of the Lucerni and good friend to Dorian.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Oct 22, 2019 19:17:19 GMT
As much as I love him, I'm not rooting for Dorian to be a follower. However, this criterion doesn't hold much significance. There are always some followers who are not LI. If anything, he would take over the Varric slot of being a carry-over follower who is not a LI. There is no need for Dorian as DA 4 companion. First the we have Maevaris a "almost" new character which was mentioned here and there. And Second i don´t thing we get this time a clear carry-over follower but we get this time Lace Harding as our connection from Inquisition to DA 4.
In DAI Maevaris is only known through the War Table, plus a codex and one epilogue screen in Trespasser. These do not hint at the complexity of this character or her backstory, for which you need to have read the comic series and/or her entry in WoT2. If they do include Mae as a companion, I hope they will not assume people are aware of this background, so introduce and develop her character as though there is no prior knowledge, apart from perhaps the fact that she was joint founder of the Lucerni and good friend to Dorian. Really is that so? I would argue beside the fact she is transgender and she had married Varrics cousin nothing else matters. The story about Aurelian Titus and Alistairs dad is finished. And her backstory entry also not that important. Its nice to know but not relevant for the DA 4. Like i said in my opinion we get all the needed information about Maevaris in DAI and Trespasser.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Oct 22, 2019 20:16:27 GMT
First the we have Maevaris a "almost" new character which was mentioned here and there. Given that both she and Dorian are magisters, I've always considered it silly that either one of them would be followers. They have shit to do; they can't be hanging out with our character as we're running around picking elfroot to make healing potions. Like i said in my opinion we get all the needed information about Maevaris in DAI and Trespasser. But the content in DAI and Trespasser didn't happen in a vacuum, which was Gervaise's point. When the comic was released, she became immediately popular even to people clamoring for her to be in DAI itself. The existence of this very thread is due to her appearance in the comics, not the small bits we see in DAI and Trespasser. And her backstory entry also not that important. Its nice to know but not relevant for the DA 4. Like i said in my opinion we get all the needed information about Maevaris in DAI and Trespasser. We can't know what is or is not important about any character. The deaths of both Maevaris's father and husband could have lingering implications and possibly factor into any sort of personal story arcs the writers might devise. Her past means that she has a lot of enemies; being co-founder of the Lucerni likely earned her some more. It could even be that the success of the Lucerni is jeopardized as a result of plots devised by her enemies. That's not to say that that makes the WOT entry required material -- I think they would catch up all players -- but neither does that mean that that information is irrelevant.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 23, 2019 19:08:07 GMT
Like i said in my opinion we get all the needed information about Maevaris in DAI and Trespasser.
Where in DAI or Trespasser does it say she is transgender or married Varric's cousin? I would have had no idea from what I learned in game. That is information that comes specifically from outside the game. Knowing that she co-founded the Lucerni and the mention of her in a couple of War Table missions would be sufficient reason for people to recognise the name from DAI and Trespasser but that is all they would know if they hadn't been on the boards or read the extra material.
To be honest the most important information is to be found in WoT2 not the comic series.
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Post by phoray on Oct 23, 2019 19:30:26 GMT
*double takes* Vaea? nice? Just because the edge of her raging bitterness has dulled a bit with some friendship, I still don't see her as niceLace Harding is earnest and okay looking. She is not a Varric replacement unless the only thing you see her replacing is "dwarf."
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 23, 2019 20:00:46 GMT
*double takes* Vaea? nice? Just because the edge of her raging bitterness has dulled a bit with some friendship, I still don't see her as nice
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 26, 2019 3:09:25 GMT
Actually, what are yours? Let’s see if I can prove she fits them.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Oct 26, 2019 5:51:00 GMT
Actually, what are yours? Let’s see if I can prove she fits them. Can y'all take this to the Vaea thread? This is about Maevaris... I understand how this started, but I can see it derailing this thread.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 26, 2019 6:13:35 GMT
Actually, what are yours? Let’s see if I can prove she fits them. Can y'all take this to the Vaea thread? This is about Maevaris... I understand how this started, but I can see it derailing this thread. Okay. I was actually going to answer their reply there anyway.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Aug 30, 2020 16:32:36 GMT
So how are the chances for Maevaris (Mae) as DA 4 companion? Could she be the fourth person on left? Also is the woman with the scroll also Mae?
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Post by phoray on Aug 30, 2020 16:39:30 GMT
I don't see Mae as a companion, I see her as an advisor/mentor/recurrent contact and quest giver like Dorian that we won't meet until potentially early to late mid game. Cool cat, just not going to be a companion.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Aug 30, 2020 16:44:00 GMT
I don't see Mae as a companion, I see her as an advisor/mentor/recurrent contact and quest giver like Dorian that we won't meet until potentially early to late mid game. Cool cat, just not going to be a companion. Sorry to disagree but i see Mae as companion because i don´t believe Bioware won´t miss the opportunity to make Mae as their first transgender companion. But i agree with you that Dorian should be a major NPC in DA 4.
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