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Post by Reznore on Jun 13, 2024 19:59:00 GMT
There's a short clip on DA's Instagram account that features Solas growling "you have no idea what you have done" I need to go into my happy place. Because if Solas says this to the PC, (happy place) we have no idea because he refuses to talk beyond I'm gonna cause some big catastrophe guys! He forces our hand, leaves us blind and possibly blame us.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Jun 13, 2024 19:59:43 GMT
There's a short clip on DA's Instagram account that features Solas growling "you have no idea what you have done" www.instagram.com/reel/C8KmmgvPiWR/?igsh=d2dzOXp5Zzk2YmU3I assume it's something that happens somewhere between Solas pushing away the falling statue and him standing before unleashed Evanuris - which is a part of gameplay that appears to be heavily edited for the sake of spoilers. Sheesh, I'm so curious about what happens there !! Also, it kinda-sorta suggests that the whole "ooops, we may have unintentionally made things worse " is indeed going to happen. Damn, I like him when he's growly. I can't stand this. The wait is going to be unbearable.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 13, 2024 20:01:55 GMT
There's a short clip on DA's Instagram account that features Solas growling "you have no idea what you have done" www.instagram.com/reel/C8KmmgvPiWR/?igsh=d2dzOXp5Zzk2YmU3I assume it's something that happens somewhere between Solas pushing away the falling statue and him standing before unleashed Evanuris - which is a part of gameplay that appears to be heavily edited for the sake of spoilers. Sheesh, I'm so curious about what happens there !! Also, it kinda-sorta suggests that the whole "ooops, we may have unintentionally made things worse " is indeed going to happen.That' salways ht ewa ythough with DA games isn' t it? Part of the course.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 13, 2024 20:02:54 GMT
Also, it kinda-sorta suggests that the whole "ooops, we may have unintentionally made things worse " is indeed going to happen. Can't be worse than what would’ve happened if we didn’t stop Solas. How do you know?
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 13, 2024 20:03:48 GMT
There's a short clip on DA's Instagram account that features Solas growling "you have no idea what you have done" I need to go into my happy place. Because if Solas says this to the PC, (happy place) we have no idea because he refuses to talk beyond I'm gonna cause some big catastrophe guys! He forces our hand, leaves us blind and possibly blame us. You mean something that has very likely happened to Solas?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 13, 2024 20:05:08 GMT
There's a short clip on DA's Instagram account that features Solas growling "you have no idea what you have done" www.instagram.com/reel/C8KmmgvPiWR/?igsh=d2dzOXp5Zzk2YmU3I assume it's something that happens somewhere between Solas pushing away the falling statue and him standing before unleashed Evanuris - which is a part of gameplay that appears to be heavily edited for the sake of spoilers. Sheesh, I'm so curious about what happens there !! Also, it kinda-sorta suggests that the whole "ooops, we may have unintentionally made things worse " is indeed going to happen. Damn, I like him when he's growly. I can't stand this. The wait is going to be unbearable. For all of us .Solas if you don't stop Davrin's pet Grifoin will ge tsom escrambled egg for dinner tonight.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 13, 2024 20:07:16 GMT
Solas: guys interrupting my ritual is a bad idea.
Rook/ Harding/ Varric: we're gonna do it!
Neve: interrupting a magical ritual of this scale there'll be consequences.
Rook/ Harding/ Varric: we're gonna do it!
Of course there would be no inciting incident without our stupidity but in this case maybe we should've let the elven God cook.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 13, 2024 20:08:19 GMT
I'd say that, unless they'd actually go for ripping the Veil apart completely at the end of the game, we might never know what would've happened exactly. I'm on the middle between the two sides of the Solas argument, leaning a bit more towards some form of negative consequences happening, but it's just speculation until they'll actually do it.
In regards of the Evanuris, I do think they might exaplain in-game, in some way, what exactly where the precautions he took against them, so we might judge that part of this plan afterwards.
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Post by Grog Muffins on Jun 13, 2024 20:15:00 GMT
There's a short clip on DA's Instagram account that features Solas growling "you have no idea what you have done" www.instagram.com/reel/C8KmmgvPiWR/?igsh=d2dzOXp5Zzk2YmU3I assume it's something that happens somewhere between Solas pushing away the falling statue and him standing before unleashed Evanuris - which is a part of gameplay that appears to be heavily edited for the sake of spoilers. Sheesh, I'm so curious about what happens there !! Also, it kinda-sorta suggests that the whole "ooops, we may have unintentionally made things worse " is indeed going to happen. Baby girl, Solas, sweety, darling, you don't get to be angy at the people you're about to massacre for wanting to keep staying alive and taking back their choice of how they go down. It was either do something or let you set the world on fire. I'll gladly deal with the consequences because I'm still alive to do it.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 13, 2024 20:15:01 GMT
Also, it kinda-sorta suggests that the whole "ooops, we may have unintentionally made things worse " is indeed going to happen. Can't be worse than what would’ve happened if we didn’t stop Solas. Want to bet on that one? I blame the Inquisitor. We had 8 years to come up with what to do when we finally catch up we the Wolf and still the only idea was "talk him down" (like that one worked so well the last time) or .....? (We were saying this after the comic the Missing since it was clear back then Harding and Varric had absolutely no idea what they were going to do). Then again, perhaps Solas should have told us what he intended to do in terms of the ritual and why it would not be a good idea to disturb it once it started. I do think that dropping a giant statue on him probably wasn't the best idea, although to be fair to Rook they were trying to disrupt the ritual, not actually squish the mage. Usually breaking the connection does the trick, although come to think of it, doesn't that tend to break the bonds holding the spirit/demon in place? Also, I'm assuming from the look on his face that petrification doesn't work on gods.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 13, 2024 20:16:25 GMT
Can't be worse than what would’ve happened if we didn’t stop Solas. How do you know? Brcause at least now we have a chance to avoid the level of mass death Solas would’ve inflicted. Solas: guys interrupting my ritual is a bad idea. Rook/ Harding/ Varric: we're gonna do it! Neve: interrupting a magical ritual of this scale there'll be consequences. Rook/ Harding/ Varric: we're gonna do it! Of course there would be no inciting incident without our stupidity but in this case maybe we should've let the elven God cook. Teo issues with this. 1.Why should we believe the man doing it it’ll be bad if we stop him? Of course he would say that because he doesn’t want it stopped. 2. Ignoring a key piece of context: for every second we hesitate, thousands of people die.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Jun 13, 2024 20:17:01 GMT
Solas: guys interrupting my ritual is a bad idea. Rook/ Harding/ Varric: we're gonna do it! Neve: interrupting a magical ritual of this scale there'll be consequences. Rook/ Harding/ Varric: we're gonna do it! Of course there would be no inciting incident without our stupidity but in this case maybe we should've let the elven God cook. Rook/Harding/Varric might not have made things better, but they also probably didn't make it much worse than whatever Solas's plan was going to do. They perceived an opportunity to end the threat posed by Solas's ritual, and they took it. Not taking that action was guaranteed to result in massive casualties. It's an "out of the frying pan and into the fire" sort of situation. Things are bad now, but if they hadn't acted, they'd also be bad.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jun 13, 2024 20:17:15 GMT
I don't know if I'm just too old for discord but yeah I get a headache just trying to read it It's definitely a social media format that seems to favor youthful eyes. And here I am still on IRC since 1993 and it scrolls still very fast on hundreds of people channels. It is kinda hard still sometimes. Discord was the same, but I bailed in 2018..
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 13, 2024 20:18:49 GMT
Also, it kinda-sorta suggests that the whole "ooops, we may have unintentionally made things worse " is indeed going to happen. Can't be worse than what would’ve happened if we didn’t stop Solas. Want to bet on that one? I blame the Inquisitor. We had 8 years to come up with what to do when we finally catch up we the Wolf and still the only idea was "talk him down" (like that one worked so well the last time) or .....? (We were saying this after the comic the Missing since it was clear back then Harding and Varric had absolutely no idea what they were going to do). Then again, perhaps Solas should have told us what he intended to do in terms of the ritual and why it would not be a good idea to disturb it once it started. I do think that dropping a giant statue on him probably wasn't the best idea, although to be fair to Rook they were trying to disrupt the ritual, not actually squish the mage. Usually breaking the connection does the trick, although come to think of it, doesn't that tend to break the bonds holding the spirit/demon in place? Sure, I’ll take that bet. It’s a video game so I know I’ll be proven right. I blame Solas, the man who caused this whole issue to begin with. Everything that happens because of it is his fault.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 13, 2024 20:20:04 GMT
Brcause at least now we have a chance to avoid the level of mass death Solas would’ve inflicted. Solas: guys interrupting my ritual is a bad idea. Rook/ Harding/ Varric: we're gonna do it! Neve: interrupting a magical ritual of this scale there'll be consequences. Rook/ Harding/ Varric: we're gonna do it! Of course there would be no inciting incident without our stupidity but in this case maybe we should've let the elven God cook. Teo issues with this. 1.Why should we believe the man doing it it’ll be bad if we stop him? Of course he would say that because he doesn’t want it stopped. 2. Ignoring a key piece of context: for every second we hesitate, thousands of people die.You mean - a thing that was very likely happening (or was about to happen) when Solas first lifted the Veil against Evanuris? And with implications in past game that he acts now out of similar urgency - that something's about to happen soon anyway that will be really bad for most/all living things?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 13, 2024 20:21:20 GMT
It was a Kobayashi Maru situation and we hadn't been trained for it. Where is Spock when you need him?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 13, 2024 20:23:34 GMT
Brcause at least now we have a chance to avoid the level of mass death Solas would’ve inflicted. Teo issues with this. 1.Why should we believe the man doing it it’ll be bad if we stop him? Of course he would say that because he doesn’t want it stopped. 2. Ignoring a key piece of context: for every second we hesitate, thousands of people die.You mean - a thing that was very likely happening (or was about to happen) when Solas first lifted the Veil against Evanuris? And with implications in past game that he acts now out of similar urgency - that something's about to happen soon anyway that will be really bad for most/all living things? From how the devs have sounded so far, Solas was acting with urgency because the Inquisition and their allies were tightening the noose around his neck.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 13, 2024 20:24:02 GMT
Rook/Harding/Varric might not have made things better, but they also probably didn't make it much worse than whatever Solas's plan was going to do. They perceived an opportunity to end the threat posed by Solas's ritual, and they took it. Not taking that action was guaranteed to result in massive casualties. It's an "out of the frying pan and into the fire" sort of situation. Things are bad now, but if they hadn't acted, they'd also be bad. All of that is true - the thing I want to point at now is that Solas was (and likely is now) very likely acting out of similar urgency.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 13, 2024 20:26:34 GMT
I blame Solas, the man who caused this whole issue to begin with. Everything that happens because of it is his fault. To be honest, I am inclined to agree with you. The main fault with Varric talking to him was trying to get him to stop. What he should have said is that if you can't live with what you've done in the past, why don't you kill yourself? Then there is only one death and the other gods remain locked away. Or is there perhaps something you're not telling us? (This is what I'd have liked to have said at the end of Trespasser)
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 13, 2024 20:33:21 GMT
You mean - a thing that was very likely happening (or was about to happen) when Solas first lifted the Veil against Evanuris? And with implications in past game that he acts now out of similar urgency - that something's about to happen soon anyway that will be really bad for most/all living things? From how the devs have sounded so far, Solas was acting with urgency because the Inquisition and their allies were tightening the noose around his neck. That was in relation to the ritual having a shape it had (haphazardly constructed scaffolding holding the statues, etc.) - I'm talking about all the clues left in Inquisition and earlier games, brought up not just by Solas, but also Mythal, Cole and several other characters, as well as some environmental clues, suggesting quite heavily that Thedas is running out of time - that something sinister is about to happen in near future, related to that strange Eclipse as well as the Blight.
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Post by Grog Muffins on Jun 13, 2024 20:33:32 GMT
Brcause at least now we have a chance to avoid the level of mass death Solas would’ve inflicted. Teo issues with this. 1.Why should we believe the man doing it it’ll be bad if we stop him? Of course he would say that because he doesn’t want it stopped. 2. Ignoring a key piece of context: for every second we hesitate, thousands of people die.You mean - a thing that was very likely happening (or was about to happen) when Solas first lifted the Veil against Evanuris? And with implications in past game that he acts now out of similar urgency - that something's about to happen soon anyway that will be really bad for most/all living things? That's a bit of conjecture, though. What he says is that he locked them away because they got too cruel and arrogant and the final straw was killing Mythal. The issue is he outright refuses to say anything helpful. Whether things will be worse if he does nothing versus him doing what he's doing is irrelevant, he's deciding the fate of the entire world seemingly on a whim and refuses to explain in any way. He doesn't have a right to make that decision, it's borderline what the Evanuris did. Of course people aren't just going to lie down and let him put his boot on their necks. I certainly wouldn't let anyone kill me after they say that what's coming is much worse and if I ask him to elaborate he just says "trust me bro". Nah mate, not gonna trust, you either talk or you get bent. He really loved talking and answering questions in Inquisition but suddenly now he's a mute.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 13, 2024 20:36:23 GMT
You mean - a thing that was very likely happening (or was about to happen) when Solas first lifted the Veil against Evanuris? And with implications in past game that he acts now out of similar urgency - that something's about to happen soon anyway that will be really bad for most/all living things? That's a bit of conjecture, though. What he says is that he locked them away because they got too cruel and arrogant and the final straw was killing Mythal. The issue is he outright refuses to say anything helpful. Whether things will be worse if he does nothing versus him doing what he's doing is irrelevant, he's deciding the fate of the entire world seemingly on a whim and refuses to explain in any way. He doesn't have a right to make that decision, it's borderline what the Evanuris did. Of course people aren't just going to lie down and let him put his boot on their necks. I certainly wouldn't let anyone kill me after they say that what's coming is much worse and if I ask him to elaborate he just says "trust me bro". Nah mate, not gonna trust, you either talk or you get bent. He really loved talking and answering questions in Inquisition but suddenly now he's a mute. he did talk though. Inquisitor: but won't that release the gods to? Solas: I had plans. And look what just happened.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 13, 2024 20:40:47 GMT
You mean - a thing that was very likely happening (or was about to happen) when Solas first lifted the Veil against Evanuris? And with implications in past game that he acts now out of similar urgency - that something's about to happen soon anyway that will be really bad for most/all living things? That's a bit of conjecture, though. What he says is that he locked them away because they got too cruel and arrogant and the final straw was killing Mythal. The issue is he outright refuses to say anything helpful. Whether things will be worse if he does nothing versus him doing what he's doing is irrelevant, he's deciding the fate of the entire world seemingly on a whim and refuses to explain in any way. He doesn't have a right to make that decision, it's borderline what the Evanuris did. Of course people aren't just going to lie down and let him put his boot on their necks. I certainly wouldn't let anyone kill me after they say that what's coming is much worse and if I ask him to elaborate he just says "trust me bro". Nah mate, not gonna trust, you either talk or you get bent. He really loved talking and answering questions in Inquisition but suddenly now he's a mute. I've made that argument before, so I'm just going to paste it: Sometimes telling truth at a wrong time can have a detrimental effect. Also - one has to consider that that this is likely NOT something easily discussed. We're potentially talking about an easily corrupting power that may even have its own sentience and a world in which even just knowing certain things may magically corrupt a person (and Andruil was a god-like being). So far Solas (and Mythal) remain probably some of the very few who know something big and they seem super-determined to keep it a secret, for what it looks to be the protection of the world. And assuming that we're just ready for this knowledge, with little to no preparation, doesn't seem to me as any less problematic than Solas's supposed condescension. I mean, it's not like we didn't get a pretty substantial warning about biting more than we can chew in DAI.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 13, 2024 20:44:47 GMT
I still laugh that we had several long years to come up with something and THIS was the result? Yeah, okay Solas, at this point just kill us all because apparently we are absolutely, completely useless.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 13, 2024 20:45:19 GMT
That was in relation to the ritual having a shape it had (haphazardly constructed scaffolding holding the statues, etc.) - I'm talking about all the clues left in Inquisition and earlier games, brought up not just by Solas, but also Mythal, Cole and several other characters, as well as some environmental clues, suggesting quite heavily that Thedas is running out of time - that something sinister is about to happen in near future, related to that strange Eclipse as well as the Blight. I'm sure that is the case, so why didn't he friggin tell us? That is what was so frustrating about all this. I'm pretty sure it was a case that everyone will die in the end regardless but his way perhaps some might survive and the red lyrium/blight would be gone. If he'd said that, we could have helped. Perhaps researched possible alternatives whilst he was putting his ritual together. Instead he left everyone in the dark and then it ends up going wrong as a result.
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